/wip/ - Works in Progress

[Anonymous No.940620]

/wip/ - Works in Progress - Pixel edition
Post your work-in-progress projects, recently finished projects, or things you'd like critiqued here.

Previous thread: >>936902

List of free resources: https://pastebin.com/cZLVnNtB

/3/ Discord for those interested: https://discord.gg/ujt5vtr4DE

[Anonymous No.940622]

>discord link
delete this and make a proper WIP thread

[Anonymous No.940628]

Here is a house based off of one in Morrowind I am working on. I want to eventually try and put it into Unity and be able to walk into it and whatnot in VR. What is your recommendation for building archways into walls? I was just doing it as a boolean but it makes the faces kind of wonky.

[Anonymous No.940659]

>>940622

[Anonymous No.940663]

>>940622
how about you post something rather than complain

[Anonymous No.940664]

There’s already a perfectly good WIP thread here: >>936854

[Anonymous No.940666]

>>940664
what's it to you

[Anonymous No.940680]

>>940664
Your /WIP/ thread will never be a real /WIP/ thread. You have no Hobbit hole. Your thread is a mockery of /3/'s perfection.

[Anonymous No.940687]

>>940664
>perfectly good
>no hobbit hole
Away with you, tourist.

[Anonymous No.940695]

>>940620
would love some thoughts on pic rel, i really need to do a psx style render again.
>>940628
le spin tool

[Anonymous No.940697]

>>940628
>I was just doing it as a boolean but it makes the faces kind of wonky.
JUst do that but you have to clean the mesh after.

[Anonymous No.940745]

>>938999
Blocked out the pose and the clothes, now I'm going to work on the hair

[Anonymous No.940758]

>>940697
Ah ok that is what I have been doing so I'll just keep on going with that then

[Anonymous No.940759]

>>940745
Thumbnail made me think she was riding a pig.

[Anonymous No.940778]

>>940664
I'd be okay with this except for the implication behind OP image being a watch and the 'tick-tock' is that I am running out of time and getting too old to be doing this and soon I will have to find a real job and I don't appreciate any of that. That's a very mean OP post and I don't wanna be a part of a thread with that kind of doomer gloomer OP.
If anything, you made me believe even more in hobbit hole as a sort of space dominated by virtuosity and results yet welcome to everyone from all ages and walks of life. As long as you got WIP, you're welcome here, and that's a commendable thing. Much better than your tick-tock mockery of a thread.

[Anonymous No.940779]

[Anonymous No.940797]

>>940778
Please take your medication. It's just a watch.

[Anonymous No.940802]

[Anonymous No.940817]

>>939810
I made her into a guy
But there's still something off in this model

[Anonymous No.940819]

>>940779
Nice work anon, her face looks really good. Will it be a figure?

[Anonymous No.940859]

[Anonymous No.940864]

I'd love some help. I'm getting giga filtered by eyelids and eyes in general as well as actually making her look like the reference.
Of course hair, lashes, brows and textures will sort the issue but I want to get as close as possible in the sculpt before moving on to those.
Any advice?

[Anonymous No.940866]

>>940864
The eyebrows are fucked, you could move the eyes back a bit, and add volume here and remove these folds, I can't help you without the model

[Anonymous No.940867]

>>940866
https://files.catbox.moe/4n2cmn.blend

This should work.
It would be great to see how it should look like.

[Anonymous No.940872]

>>940867
Here is my take, I can't work more on this, sorry, the resolution that you are using is to add fine details, to do this try to go from 20 to 100k faces or so.
https://files.catbox.moe/yd8q3k.blend

[Anonymous No.940875]

>>940867
Ok the last one
https://files.catbox.moe/qupx2m.blend

[Anonymous No.940889]

>>940872
>>940875
Appreciate it, now to learn detailing and hair particles.

[Anonymous No.940900]

>>940622
Okay
here's a new Discord Link: https://discord.gg/gbYCEBPuK2

[Anonymous No.940907]

>>940620
what's the magic behind creases? mine always look like shit

[Anonymous No.940915]

sculpting the guy from the Bosch painting of hell

[Anonymous No.940917]

Maybe it's not a 3D art piece but I've worked on this tonight. Do you like it?

[Anonymous No.940930]

>>940915
progress, callin it quits for now

[Anonymous No.940974]

>>940917
I like it. Definitely useful.
I wish there was a way to manually rotate the 3d cursor as well. Why they only give you its location to tweak and not its rotation always baffled me. Sure the rotation is used when aligning the cursor to something 90% of the time, but there's definitely instances where I wish I could just have it rotated.

[Anonymous No.940975]

>>940974
>>940917
Actually, scratch that, I'm selectively fucking blind.
Rotation has been right there the whole time.
Still nifty to hide it though.

[Anonymous No.940976]

thinking of picking up a pen since sculpting has been so much fun. Even though this is stylized I went and tried to copy proper anatomy. Does this look imporved at all? I didnt have times to clean up the back/thighs

[Anonymous No.940992]

>>940975
3D Cursor rotation was added past the 2.7
But still there is no way to hide it. If you think about it, most of the time you don't even need to see it because you're using it as a sort of coordinate clipboard.
When it's hidden you can still do 3D Cursor to selection and Selection to 3D cursor.
But at least up to 2.76, there is no Python API to hide and lock it. The patch is simple enough but you have to recompile everything.

[Anonymous No.940993]

>>940992
>most of the time you don't even need to see it because you're using it as a sort of coordinate clipboard.
I'd agree there, but it largely depends on what I'm working on. Sometimes I'll be using it for 70-80% of my transforms, and other times I won't touch it at all. I find it useful to hide, for sure, but at the same time I don't feel like it gets in the way, necessarily. You're able to hide it with pic related though.

That being said, it's a bit out of the way, and I wouldn't mind it being near the other things for the 3d cursor. If I were you, I would put the code up on wherever it is people post fixes and stuff that way it gets actually implemented in the official builds. I don't see why this wouldn't unless it's dodgy code, though they might just not because of redundancy.

[Anonymous No.940994]

>>940992
>>940993
Actually, I just realized you're working on 2.7x specifically. Once again me being selectively blind. I swear I need to pay more attention. Sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.940997]

>>940994
That's good because that setting is probably accessible via the Python API now.
But still it's the placement of the toggle switch that matters. It has to be where it belongs. Right in the 3D Cursor panel, right next to the 3D Cursor position indicators.
I look at pic related and I assume there is no way it hide it. Then 5 years later, while doing something completely unrelated, I stumble upon that other option in the View panel.

As far as I can remember, the Hide 3D Cursor functionality has been proposed to the wise Blender Programmers for 15 years from now. They're not going to do it because they didn't think about it. They took it personally back then and they still hold the same grudge as is typical from 5 year olds and younger.

[Anonymous No.940999]

>though they might just not because of redundancy
Yes. Not being sarcastic at all here. Because the rest of the Blender UI has been so tightly optimized for redundancy that to add a single rather useful toggle in the right place would make it unintuitive.

How do you become so indoctrinated? I'm fascinated because I don't seem to have that ability. How do you get to the point where you look at a product and assume it can do no wrong? How does it feel like? Does it feels like... love? That "love" thing everybody talks about all the time? I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.941009]

>>940620
Been trying to improve at low poly characters.
This is all quad topology. Has some weird kites around the shoulders.
1,382 Verts. Not sure if i can go lower in some places. Seems fine for a base mesh.
Rate my Topology / "Anatomy" pls.

[Anonymous No.941015]

>>941009
Proportions are ok. Topology... there are arbitrarily many issues but I'll point out one.
Your video card will ultimately output triangles to the screen.
If a quad more or less lies on a plane, then it's ok, but if it's very curved, then the rendering subsystem has to decide which diagonal to use to split it. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.
My advice is: try to go easy with the curvature, or force the split by hand if you have to.

[Anonymous No.941016]

[Anonymous No.941017]

>>941016
Looks like a wallpaper in Yume 2kki.

[Anonymous No.941018]

>>941016
looks sick

[Anonymous No.941033]

>>940999
>How do you become so indoctrinated?
I don't know if you're criticizing me or the developers at large. I just remember them saying shit like that on the little "Blender Today" videos I check out every once in a while. Which they have a bit of a point, but they don't have much of a leg to stand on considering almost every command is doubled up somewhere.
I personally don't care one way or the other. Having the toggle next to the 3d cursor transforms would be nice for convenience and I'd prefer having it, but it's still got an option elsewhere. If I really really wanted that convenience though, I could always add the toggle on my quick menu.

As far as "indoctrination" goes. There's plenty about Blender that I hate, I just put up with it because it's quicker (and cheaper) to just work around an issue with a fix that takes an hour or so, than to drop everything and take weeks to learn another program from scratch and get to the same level of proficiency. Some of that stubbornness probably comes from me liking working in the software (vomit inducing, I know), but I'm not doing everything in it, contrary to what the developers suggest I do with all its half-assed extra bits.
Don't know what's up with the people that fully drank the Kool-Aid though. Most of them are fucking insane. That's typical with FOSS autists, and autists in general.

[Anonymous No.941037]

>>941015
thanks.
I looked at some more reference. And a lot of models have triangles in areas that bend a l lot during animation.
So i guess i have to make a rig and see where the iffy spots are on the joints and split some quads.

[Anonymous No.941042]

Started texturing a bit. I'm going for something a little stylized, if still "realistic". unsure if I'm going overboard a bit, then again my reference is pretty beat up.

[Anonymous No.941080]

>>941042
That's fucking cool, I love the overall look.
I hate the edges on the boiler plate, the rest of the texturework looks photoreal from a distance though.

[Anonymous No.941093]

[Anonymous No.941095]

>>941009
use tris. avoid kites.

[Anonymous No.941097]

>>941033
>That's typical with FOSS autists
Because nobody challenges them. That's why they feel entitled to play with users.
They bury functionality and then they go: "tee-hee didn't you know it was here the whole time? Haven't you watched the latest Youtube tutorial by Blender Guru? Poor thing."
I'm a programmer as well and I can tell you word for word what goes through their head.
One can only conclude that Blender developers are extremely dissociated with their own sexuality.

[Anonymous No.941116]

[Anonymous No.941121]

>>941095
very nice

[Anonymous No.941127]

>>941042
you should just unwrap it and then texture it with AI

[Anonymous No.941149]

>>941095
Thanks a lot for the reference.
Remade my hands as the old ones looked like some mangled sausages.
I think this is better now.

But i'm unsure about the shoulders, I just did a revolve of the upper arm into the body. Is this more square / box shaped shoulder better. Or does this collapse in on itself too when the arm swings forward or backward?

[Anonymous No.941150]

OVGH

[Anonymous No.941158]

>>941149

[Anonymous No.941167]

>>941158
thanks for the drawing.
I was unsure of dropping the triangle in the center of the palm. But tweaking the edge flow a bid mate the the different sections of the hand more readable.
This will properly need tweaking after the rigging process.

So i guess the second most difficult part of the body is done. Not sure if i'll even attempt a face.

[Anonymous No.941168]

>>940930
Wrapped up.

[Anonymous No.941172]

>>941168
Based.

[Anonymous No.941179]

>>941168
animated gif version

[Anonymous No.941180]

>>941179
did you use goatse as reference

[Anonymous No.941183]

>>941180
don't tempt me...i'll do it

[Anonymous No.941220]

>>941168
>>941179
i look like this

[Anonymous No.941254]

Ok, box modeling a face was not too difficult.
Still has some areas i'm not happy with. Mainly the temple and the space between the nose and the cheek.

[Anonymous No.941296]

>>941042
Did a bit more texturing

[the chair nerd No.941300]

>>941296
BEAUTIFUL WORK ANON GG. How many locomotives have you done? Could you post an anthology?

I fucking love trains.

[Anonymous No.941312]

[the chair nerd No.941314]

>>941312
It's obviously lacking anon what are you trying to achieve? I could help, believe me or not I've done professional bathroom renderings for toilet brands before so yeah you just came to the right place.
Hurry because mods have already banned me twice this month for insulting brown people from India.

[Anonymous No.941322]

[Anonymous No.941328]

>>941095
based polymodeler chad

[Anonymous No.941329]

>>941314
>I've done professional bathroom renderings for toilet brands before so yeah you just came to the right place.
and my dad works at Nintendo

[the chair nerd No.941330]

>>941329
How the fuck did you know?!?!

[Anonymous No.941331]

>>940620
i know its super unrelated as shit but i'm losing my fucking mind
that one sculpt i posted here on this thread like months ago is frequently being used in some weird indian news site

[Anonymous No.941335]

>>941331
fucking hell this reply was painfully poorly worded
i meant, a sculpt i posted earlier in this thread is now being used in a few weird indian clickbait articles
sorry i was just laughing my ass off, i just kinda barfed that meaningless word salad without even thinking

[Anonymous No.941347]

>>941314
not going for photorealism it's for an animation

[Anonymous No.941365]

I've watched the Blender talk about bevels:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dpUQ57Xv8
and I wanted to show some my bevels.

[the chair nerd No.941367]

>>941347
Oh ok nice. Tell me if you need toilet assets.

[Anonymous No.941368]

>>941365
use 3ds max

>>941367
stop toilet posting

[Anonymous No.941374]

>>941368
>use 3ds max
It's Blender but I didn't use they method. If 3ds max bevel operator can do something like that I would be impressed. Maybe you can show me.

[Anonymous No.941375]

>>941314
It's gorgeous. The only way it could be better would be if one of the scenarios was the middle of a living room.

[the chair nerd No.941376]

>>941368

[the chair nerd No.941380]

>>941375
Oh we wanted to add something crazy to that original 2017 campaign piece like the bathroom in the middle of a forest but the client sadly declined.

[Anonymous No.941384]

>>941380
The peak of Mt. Everest.

[the chair nerd No.941385]

>>941384
Not my proudest moment but I've done it.

[Anonymous No.941386]

Started reading Loomis

[Anonymous No.941404]

>>941367
do u have a toilet brush? I could also do with a toilet roll holder. Everything is kind of 2x scale. It's also meant to look a bit decrepit. I'm using a lot of diffuse light so the render was really noisy.

[the chair nerd No.941407]

>>941404
Yep i do. Enjoy anon.

WIBH9uv

[Anonymous No.941408]

>>941407
thats a VIRUS

[Anonymous No.941409]

>>941407
nta
thanks

[the chair nerd No.941419]

>>941408
Yes it is.

>>941409
No prob dude enjoy your infection.

[Anonymous No.941424]

let's go

[Anonymous No.941430]

pussy

[Anonymous No.941440]

>>941376
You win and no kidding years ago I used to work for a company that made bathroom furniture.
AAA Video Game chuds brag all the time about how much money is there in video games.
They don't know that it's a fraction of what it's in the bathroom industry.
Chuds don't understand. How can you play your silly video games without a bathroom?
Chuds BTFO.

[the chair nerd No.941468]

>>941440
OMFG you talk just like Chris wtf. Are you Chris? If so fuck you If not fuck you.

Yeah appliances may be boring but there is good money in that.

[Anonymous No.941482]

>>940817
>>940859
>>940976
>>941009
>>941015
>>941093
>>941095
>>941116
>>941254
>>941386
>>941430
All of these are awful. Go learn actual anatomy before you post here.

>>941322
Soulless eyes.

>>941424
Fuck off pedo.

[Anonymous No.941501]

>>941482
>before you post here
it's always those who don't post progress that cries the loudest

[Anonymous No.941513]

>>941482

PUSSY

[Anonymous No.941520]

>>941116
>>941430
>>941513
Sculpt/Retopo chuds BTFO

[Anonymous No.941526]

I mean... I don't really know how that model was made but I'm sure somebody somewhere is getting BTFO

[Anonymous No.941528]

>>941296
Finally close to the finish line.
>>941300
I might make a render with all my locomotives together once this is finished (if my computer can handle the millions of polys and hundreds of 4k textures lol)
>>941482
Please kill yourself immediately.

[Anonymous No.941532]

>>941513
あなたはジーザースをおすすめ
しかし、モデル カッコイイよね
やぱり ジーザースおすすめ

[the chair nerd No.941587]

>>941528
Fucking based anon good job might print into a poster I'll be on the look.

[the chair nerd No.941589]

Coding a custom furniture visualizer using aframe and threejs. Made it in order to ensure the carpentry that i'm currently designing for my mother's apartment is understood by the contractor.

https://3chan.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/mueble25/model.html

If you want to test it please give me feedback on the texture loading, interaction with your portable device and internet browser. That would be useful.

[Anonymous No.941614]

>>941589
Que rico

[Anonymous No.941616]

>>941589
just make it in unity and publish it as webGL.

[the chair nerd No.941617]

>>941616
Where is the fun in that. I'm learning js the hard way.

[Anonymous No.941636]

>>941589
Do carpenters generally not understand how doors and drawers work?

[the chair nerd No.941645]

>>941636

In my country you can bet so.

[Anonymous No.941666]

>>940620
https://youtu.be/1sFyrfqTdcg

[Anonymous No.941768]

>>941528
If I may offer advice from a anonymous user of this shitty board, rust spots form and fade away to the bottom which blend softly with the metal paint due to moisture in the air. Yours shows rusting on the top and bottom of the long L shape piece. Otherwise, great texturing anon

Also if anyone even cares I've gotten lazy finishing this sculpt. I may start with a simpler character next time.

[Anonymous No.941777]

>>941768
That looks very nice anon. Do you have any tips for a beginner in zbrush who wants to do figure sculpts? I already have a solid 2D art background.

[Anonymous No.941816]

Been experimenting with using AI generated faces as a texture stencil. Not sure if this works on this mesh resolution.
With some smoothed and Averaged normal the areas with little curvature look decent, but it completely falls apart at the outline of the model.
Not sure what to do. Lower res texture, or higher poly texture.

[Anonymous No.941817]

>>941816
Looks fine to me. Add some oversized lowpoly accessory, some VHS shaders, some colored lights, some other bullshit and it'll look totally realistic to the average user of this board.

[Anonymous No.941862]

>>940745 here
Just wanted to share with you guys that today I was commissioned to model a garage kit for Treasure Festa Online. I'm a little nervous because I'm still learning, but can't pass up this opportunity for visibility at a Japanese event. I'm so happy anons

[Anonymous No.941863]

>>940745 here
Just wanted to share with you guys that today I was commissioned to model a garage kit for Treasure Festa Online. I'm a little nervous because I'm still learning, but can't pass up this opportunity for visibility at a Japanese event. I'm so happy /3/

>>941768
Finish it anon! It looks really cool

[Anonymous No.941873]

>>941528
Finally finished it, decided to make a turnaround.

[Anonymous No.941874]

>>941873
The model looks really good. The colors are off in a way that makes me think of Blender. Maybe it's the environment light? Open a frame in photoshop or gimp and look at the white balance maybe.

[Anonymous No.941875]

Something like this maybe?

[Anonymous No.941877]

>>941095
show booty anon
please..

[Anonymous No.941878]

>>941424
based

[Anonymous No.941879]

>>940620
how comfy would you say this is?

[Anonymous No.941882]

Hard surface in Zbrush is JANK

[Anonymous No.941890]

I always liked the M4 from Modern Warfare 2, the rail system was rad

[Anonymous No.941895]

Currently training sculpting clothing and folds from scratch.
Any advices/critiques please.

[Anonymous No.941897]

>>941879
Which one is better?

[Anonymous No.941898]

>>941897

[Anonymous No.941899]

>>941890
is the stock a single piece?

[Anonymous No.941903]

>>940802
>>941095
Are you the same guy form here?

[Anonymous No.941904]

>>941513
how the fuck are you getting so good shadows/shading? I get weird shadows when limbs deform on low poly models

[Anonymous No.941905]

>>941899
Nah, the butt can be extended or folded in

[Anonymous No.941907]

[Anonymous No.941908]

>>941898

[Anonymous No.941910]

>>941904
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/2.79/modeling/meshes/editing/normals.html#modeling-meshes-editing-normals-properties

[Anonymous No.941912]

>>941903
yes it is the same mesh

>>941877 the butt can be seen in the shitposts below
>>941430
>>941513

[Anonymous No.941942]

[Anonymous No.941943]

>>941908
that one looks better? do they look like space stations/ apartment complexs

[Anonymous No.941972]

>>941942

[Anonymous No.941992]

>>941907
Look at the little fella go, fantastic.

[Anonymous No.941993]

>>941875
are you using a proper hdri?

[Anonymous No.942001]

https://youtu.be/DBqaYmvzgmk

[Anonymous No.942019]

>>942001
you're the skyrim guy
i like you

[Anonymous No.942028]

>>941907
WHERE'S THE REST

[Anonymous No.942039]

>>941972
kek

[Anonymous No.942084]

More clothing stuff. Critiques welcome

[Anonymous No.942092]

>>942084
nice folds, i'd lose symmetry on pants tho

[Anonymous No.942116]

>>941095
i fucking kneel
good job.

[Anonymous No.942123]

>>941897
i like this one better, but i dont like how the lack of contrast between the nearest object and the 2 right behind it obscure the edges of the closest one. Do you get what i mean? i like the concept, and the 3 on the left look great, but the closes one becomes hard to make out easily because of the one right behind it. I also think it more so looks like a space telescope than apartments. That goes for design, aswell as scale. I did not imagine them being so large that people could fit insite, let alone apartments.
Looks sick though!

[Anonymous No.942133]

>>942123
I will reduce the number of space stations and see if i can add a small spaceship or something to show the scale properly.
>>941898
gonna dump a few more shorts that i would like feedback on

[Anonymous No.942134]

>>942133

[Anonymous No.942135]

>>942134

[Anonymous No.942136]

>>942135
suppposed to be animated but the webm is like 8mb

[Anonymous No.942137]

>>942136

[Anonymous No.942180]

Why do I keep failing at making this bastard clothed, its driving me crazy

[Anonymous No.942182]

>>942137
Really like your style, anon. The color palettes are very soothing and the style in general is a nice blend of aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.942185]

ive almost finished hipoly for my hipower. I make my booleans in blender and send to zbrush to dynamesh and bool. its not in zbrush yet so some shading errors.

[Anonymous No.942186]

>>942185
another angel

[Anonymous No.942192]

>>942186
Looking good. Do you have any tips for the dynamesh workflow? The polish settings are always fucking me up.

[Anonymous No.942195]

>>942192
>[
there is a way to use sharp edges as polish masks i cant remember tho, you can use dynamic subdiv with creases and just do super highpoly that works for me. and its the live boolean i use to mess around till final result

[Anonymous No.942202]

>>942133
>>942134
>>942137
>>942137
These are all pretty nice compositions and I like your color palette's hue. Maybe consider pushing the mid ground and background object colors value to contrast more or match it closer to the foreground. If you decide to flatten it by matching the all the values push the saturation a bit.

[Anonymous No.942210]

>>941424

[Anonymous No.942225]

>>942182
Thank you anon
>>942202
Which shot are you talking about anon? Is it the fishing one with the electric ,posts?

[Anonymous No.942242]

>>942084
https://www.zbrushcentral.com/t/assassins-creed-unity-characters/205926/19

there's some nice fold ref here anon

[Anonymous No.942260]

I think this is quite decent I've been following speedchar tutorial recently, before that my sculpt is absolutely dog shit, glad I discover his channel

[Anonymous No.942350]

So far I'm left with this, looks okay but i could definitely push it more (I haven't opened painter yet, it's all tileables and polypaint). I'm also planning on making a proper xgen groom too, we'll see how it goes

[Anonymous No.942362]

>>942350
now sculpt her giving birth

looking top tier anon, keep it up

[Anonymous No.942365]

>>942350
nit-picking but it feels like her booba might be a little low on the chest

[Anonymous No.942386]

>>942362
thanks man

>>942365
oh yeah you're right, it'll be a pain in the ass to change so i'll see if i can find a simpler way to correct that

[Anonymous No.942401]

always wanted to try modeling a tie fighter

[Anonymous No.942436]

been working on faces and shaders and stuff,

[Anonymous No.942441]

Working on a donut

[Anonymous No.942444]

>>942441
Working on a donut

[Anonymous No.942445]

>>942444
That donut looks kinda sus
Are there advantages to staying on Blender 2.79?

[Anonymous No.942470]

[Anonymous No.942471]

>>942445
better performance, the Blender Fundation fucked the viewport in the 2.8.

[Anonymous No.942473]

>>942445
Mush lower hardware requirements. Internal render is better than Eevee. Way faster, more responsive, less cluttered and the integrated game engine is better than Godot.
Among other things.

[Anonymous No.942478]

And most importantly: does anyone knows why they let an obviously color blind person work on HDR tonemapping for 2.8+?
I'm all for inclusivity but at some point you've got to face reality.

[Anonymous No.942482]

>>942478
>I'm all for inclusivity but at some point you've got to face reality

That reminds me of a few years ago when Channel4 (Bong channel that shows a lot of degeneracy and always has) had an announcer with a very obvious speech impediment that made it difficult to understand what they were saying. Do you know what film were they talking about coming up next without a single hint of irony? Harrison Bergeron.

[Anonymous No.942527]

>>942482

[Anonymous No.942625]

Modeling some clothes for this nigga. I only sculpt + retopo my characters, everything else I try to get away with without sculpting and by using poly modeling instead. Breddy chill

[Anonymous No.942639]

>>942625
Sorry but the face sucks ass. Don't attempt to "finish" it I recommend starting over since as a begginer you should be more concerned about mileage over anything else. Quality improves over time provided you do it consistently.

[Anonymous No.942640]

>>942470
Cool, but creepy. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.942645]

>>942639
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :^)

[Anonymous No.942660]

this wine glass is the very first thing I made after the obligatory donut

Modeled a curve, applied screw, turned into mesh, did some adjustments and duplicated the inside to make the liquid.

I can't get the glass thickness right though.
Tried to apply solidify but the thickness of the glass is too even and cleaning it up lead to shading errors.

Is there a simple way to model the inside of a thin container with a custom distance between the layers? Or do I have to measure the distance between the loops manually?

[Anonymous No.942693]

>>941768
Looks cool. I'm jealous of people who have the courage to do their sculpts already posed from the get-go. I stick to the unflattering a-pose until there's absolutely nothing else to do and even then, I only timidly, reluctantly break symmetry when it's time to pose and only do so after a couple of backup saves.
kill laplace, fuck maxwell, marry drake

[Anonymous No.942702]

babby's first gun

[the chair nerd No.942722]

>>942702
Beautiful model. I think the 1910 only had ridges in the outside part of the hammer safety, not in the whole cylinder.

[Anonymous No.942723]

>>940864
Feel improvement, still takes me 10 years to sculpt a face like this.

[Anonymous No.942726]

>>942660
Do the same thing you just did, but instead of just making the profile for the curve of the outside shape, actually go in and do the inside as well.
So it looks like a slice of the glass rather than the silhouette. Hopefully pic related makes sense.

If you already did that, you can also control the thickness of your solidify modifier by using vertex groups. Set your thickness to the max you'd like on the modifier, set the vertex group you made in the modifier, and all of your vertices in the group that are weighted to 1 will have full thickness, 0 no thickness, and the in between values will be inbetween. You can go in and set individual point's weight by adjusting the slider under the vertex group panel, and hitting "assign".

[Anonymous No.942728]

finished a few hours the Coloso course, and holy shit i cant believe i was able to make the same model from the course with my shitty attention span, took weeks but IM HAPPY
I learn a fucking lot, cant wait to finally give it a shot with my own characters.

[Anonymous No.942739]

>>942693
thx my fellow waifu maker. Since her pose isn't that far off from a A pose, I didn't have to seperate body parts into different subtools except for the hands and head. Home stage and target stage is fucking goat I am glad these updates made it before Maxon fucked Pixologic customers in the ass.

[Anonymous No.942740]

>>942728
That looks really good Anon, what's the course called? I really want to learn how to model characters properly again

[Anonymous No.942742]

>>942728
which Coloso course, anon-sama?

[Anonymous No.942745]

>>942740
>>942742
not him but this https://online-courses.club/coloso-intro-to-3d-cartoon-rendering-with-blender-korean-eng-sub-chinese-hardsub/

[Anonymous No.942746]

>>942702
Well this looks great and made me happy to see it. But then I saw the top of this grip and it looks like it's just mercilessly clipping into the metal and that looks bad and then I got sad.

[Anonymous No.942748]

>>942471
>>942473
poor cope

[Anonymous No.942749]

>>942745
thank you, based anon, may the cg gods be in your favor

[Anonymous No.942759]

>>942722
You're right, I've got like 20 reference images of that part of the gun and I never noticed. I'm pretty clueless about guns in general, so maybe I don't have much of an eye for them yet.

>>942746
No clipping, just a pretty tight fit. Later models had larger grips that didn't seem to fit as well so you could see some gaps here and there, but pretty much all the reference images I could find for this one had them flush up against the metal.

[Anonymous No.942760]

>>942759
Oops, forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.942761]

>>941482
The thread is for work in progress you autist, of course it's not going to look amazing.

[Anonymous No.942768]

I'm trying to create a sci fi corridor but it's my first time doing this kind of stuff and I'm wondering if my uvs are good
I'm planning on adding more details later, any suggestion would be much appreciated!

[Anonymous No.942769]

>>942768
It looks like there's too many segments in the thin wide panel despite it being a flat surface. Or are you trying to bevel them as vents?

[Anonymous No.942772]

>>942726
Thank you Anon!

[Anonymous No.942774]

>>942769
Yes these are vents, but that's not very visible in the screenshot

[Anonymous No.942805]

>>942772
Very nice! Keep on truckin and learning anon!

[Anonymous No.942806]

>>942768
I feel like this is the perfect opportunity to be using trim sheets.

[Anonymous No.942810]

[Anonymous No.942814]

>>942759
Shouldn't there be a bit of dust/detritus where this top part intersects with the metal though? You've wisely put some on the sides but neglected the center... it looks a bit uncanny to me.

[Anonymous No.942816]

>>942814
he didnt put it manually, its on edges and that part isnt an edge so it was skipped

[the chair nerd No.942820]

>>942760
Top shit anon I like it.

[Anonymous No.942823]

Working on the 4th model I've ever made but this time I'm free balling it without following along with a tutorial


Not sure what shape to start with for the head, I tried a cube a absolutely fucked it but I think i just made too many polygons

Advice would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.942832]

>>942823
i always start like this

[Anonymous No.942839]

>>942832
seems ok. how do you make the arms and legs?

[Anonymous No.942841]

>>942839

[Anonymous No.942863]

>>942806
never heard of it, I'll look into it!
Here's some progress :)

[Anonymous No.942864]

>>942863
I like it, but I think it could really benefit from more variation on the wall and floor panels, and maybe decrease the amount of buttons and screens on the walls. Overall, good job.

[Anonymous No.942865]

>>942810
It's good, but I think it would benefit from better materials.

[Anonymous No.942891]

>>942832
Idk how to even start with that lol, in blender I can only add an icosphere made of tris, I tried to turn them into quads with alt+j but it looks weird

[Anonymous No.942898]

>>942891
Cube -> Subdivide -> Vertex Smooth until it looks round -> Sculpt Drag or Proportional Editing to move it down and into that shape -> Extrude the neck down.

[Anonymous No.942899]

>>942891
start with cube go to edit mode and
in best blender 2.79 press w and choose subdivide smooth
in blender 3 right click choose smooth and change the smoothness value to 1.0

[Anonymous No.942908]

>>942841
thanks.

[Anonymous No.942909]

>>942865
yea i made the materials too fine, it looked different in substance painter

[Anonymous No.942910]

>>940864
>>942723
Hope this helps with something. Sorry for the squiggles

[Anonymous No.942911]

>>942910
>>940864
>>942723
Feckin capcha made me forget the image.

[Anonymous No.942924]

Arms are probably too long, anything else I should fix?

[Anonymous No.942925]

>>942924
he needs briefs

[Anonymous No.942926]

what do you guys think about my low poly character for game? is it shit? any pointers?

[Anonymous No.942931]

>>942401
finished the tie a wing and i'm working on the Y-wing right now texturing in the past three days.

[Anonymous No.942939]

>>942931
>covering up all your hard work with copious motion blur
Why would you do this? It's not really adding any dynamism to the scene.

>>942926
It depends on what you're going for. I could see it working fine with flat shading, provided you turned smoothing on.

[Anonymous No.942942]

>>942926
It's not low poly. It's the typical "it didn't work out as a subdivision model so I'm calling it low poly".

[Anonymous No.942948]

>>942926
Gee, you might wanna be giving YOUR guy there a few pointers!

[Anonymous No.942976]

[Anonymous No.942979]

>>942976
O

[Anonymous No.942984]

>>942976
Oooohhh

[Anonymous No.942985]

>>940620
If there you needed to have a license to create 3D models this would have me revoked.

[Anonymous No.942989]

Attempting the uh-60 tutorial. This is by far the best documented step by step tutorial on zmodeler.

[Anonymous No.943001]

>>942985
Esl-kun

[Anonymous No.943018]

>>942260
Very solid. The only thing that feels a little off, is the size of his feet. They're looking a little small. Maybe take his hips in a little bit, and spread the wings of his back a little more, for an emphasized V shape.
But I think you're going to make it.

[Anonymous No.943028]

>>942939
its a frame from an animation my guy like a 1 second shot

[Anonymous No.943034]

>>943028
>its a frame from an animation my guy like a 1 second shot
I would have picked a better frame then, friendo. Considering there's a lot of work between >>942401 and >>942931. It would have been nice to see how things look all finished without motion blur and stuff getting in the way.

[Anonymous No.943047]

I don't know. I made it and it looked kind of cool.

[Anonymous No.943059]

>>943047
this is a blue board you sick fuck

[Anonymous No.943063]

>>943059
The only thing I see there is a pink capsule and the cloth modifier.

[Anonymous No.943088]

>>943047
What's your goal here? Doing weird shit without and end goal is a waste precious time.

[Anonymous No.943092]

>>943088
What's my goal here? I don't know... Let me think long and hard about it.

[Anonymous No.943093]

>>943092
I can't really make it out but if you just want to expel your white stuff it only takes 10 minutes nigga.

[Anonymous No.943094]

>>943093
Right but you see... I have particular tastes... Let's just say terrestrial creatures don't do really that for me anymore.

[Anonymous No.943101]

>>943034
i have two more i've done since i'm going to do the B-wing next.

[Anonymous No.943103]

>>943101
don't steal IP.

[Anonymous No.943108]

>>942820
Thanks. This was my first attempt at the whole low poly game asset thing, and I didn't think it'd turn out this well.

I'm not sure if I could call this done, but I kind of feel like working on something new. Maybe I'll revisit it later.

[Anonymous No.943110]

Still a WIP, obviously...but comin' along.

[Anonymous No.943126]

>>942989

[Anonymous No.943142]

>>943108
Not bad.

[Anonymous No.943153]

>>943108
pretty slick, anon

[Anonymous No.943166]

>>942441
Current progress on my donut

[Anonymous No.943236]

Internal Render, I choose you!

[Anonymous No.943248]

>>943236
i miss it

[Anonymous No.943254]

I wanted to post a comparison with Eevee, but Eevee has very visible light leaks everywhere, indirect lighting doesn't work and it takes about the same time to render, so... I don't think Eevee is in a usable state right now.

The model is from http://sauerbraten.org/ There are kilometers of scenarios like this if you want to experiment.

[Anonymous No.943256]

>>943254
>sauerbraten
Man it's so nostalgic I spent hours on this game 7-8 years ago

[Anonymous No.943257]

>>943256
I wanted to try this because years ago the .obj export functionality didn't work very well. But now it does.

[Anonymous No.943324]

>>943254

By chance in Eevee did you try maxing out the cascade shadow map resolution to 4096? If so, did you lower the sun's shadow render distance?

[Anonymous No.943325]

>>943324
Pic related is the same model in Eevee. There are half a meter light leaks everywhere and the indirect lighting has lower resolution than Quake 2. It's not usable.

>maxing out the cascade shadow map
I didn't have to do any of that with the internal Render. It just worked.

[Anonymous No.943326]

>>943325

Heaven forbid you have adjust any settings when setting up your scene.

[Anonymous No.943327]

>>943326
If you have a whole town rather than a single cube in your contrived example you can't just pump up the shadow map size.
I can't even begin to tell you for how long it has been known that projected shadow maps don't work for architectural stuff.

[Anonymous No.943328]

>>943108
nice berga. i mean berghmann

[Anonymous No.943329]

>>943110
cyber-bong

[Anonymous No.943330]

[Anonymous No.943334]

>>943330
naked version when?

[Anonymous No.943339]

Let's get through the boring stuff so I can start making some hot 3d babes

[Anonymous No.943340]

>>943339
Broke still after years of 3d, should have stayed in school. Get a real degree you guys, keep 3d as a hobby.

[Anonymous No.943341]

>>943340
Now I'll just come back here to die off with the rest of you.

[Anonymous No.943342]

>>943341
What's the point of all this practice, it just wears you down

[Anonymous No.943343]

>>943342
I still love art tho, still love art

[Anonymous No.943346]

>>943340
literally sell any of this models you posted, they are higher quality than many people can do. or just make furry art and make bank

[Anonymous No.943347]

>>943346
You mean I spent all of my 20's learning all this stuff just so I could make 20 bucks a month on turbosquid? Nah man, I'm a hack, can't finish shit, it's all wips and sketches. Porn is next on the list tho.

[Anonymous No.943348]

>>943347
I just wanna make something clear, I'm a pioneer on this board, I'm not some angry failed artist who came here to vent, I was made here and on /ic/ (cause I'm also a drawfag) years ago, and I want you to acknowledge that. I'm not a fucking tourist.

[Anonymous No.943349]

>>943348
I stopped posting here several times cause I thought myself above the people who post here, but I realized I'm not, I have failed just like most people here and I know the struggle. Even tho I doubt I'll ever go pro I can deny my place here. Here is where I belong.

[Anonymous No.943352]

>>943349
I can't deny my place here, dying piece of shit board.

[Anonymous No.943353]

>>943352
This fucking shit ain't even art, I can't even show it to anyone because they don't know what to make of it.

[Anonymous No.943369]

modeling hair

[Anonymous No.943370]

>>943369
progress of the body

[Anonymous No.943372]

Real quick. Another map from Sauerbraten.

>>943369
How were you able to model hair in 2.7? That's a feature that has been added only recently in 3.5. That's impossible.

[Anonymous No.943415]

>>943353
No faggot. You just completely lack the self confidence to move on.

[Anonymous No.943416]

Testing out some ideas in UE5. Too pixely?

[Anonymous No.943484]

>>943372
>How were you able to model hair in 2.7? That's a feature that has been added only recently in 3.5. That's impossible.
i dont know if youre joking but its just polymodeling

[Anonymous No.943497]

>>943484
I would never joke about Blender. Blender is serious business. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.943500]

>>943349
>>943348
Why did you not get a job doing 3d?

[Anonymous No.943524]

>>943500
I'll take and guess and say he's probably the kind of guy who works hard when it's not expected of him, but then loses all motivation when it's expected of him to work. It's common among a lot of people, and explains why so many people fail to go professional.

[Anonymous No.943526]

>>943370
>>943369
That's really nice. I would like to see more of your models.

[Anonymous No.943527]

>>943370
Are you japanese or a big tits loving weeb?

[Anonymous No.943536]

>>943526
it is a blue board

[Anonymous No.943537]

Made with the Skin modifier. It has some issues but maybe it could work for some futuristic scenario.

[Anonymous No.943538]

>>943369
>>943370
>>943536
I'm a beginner so I can't give you advice but it looks very nice, would love to see more

[Anonymous No.943547]

>>943500
I tried a few times but no luck yet.
>>943524
I have been working consistently for the last 3 years, it's really never been about motivation, although right now I feel regret, I used to be a decent programmer and now I'm nothing
>>943415
maybe so, but I have tried nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.943548]

I'm not a self deprecating looser but man, the amount of effort doing 3d takes vs the actual reward you get from it is abysmal, I'd be a high profile programmer by now if I had gone down that route, hope this is a warning for people wanting to get into 3d professionally, I mean I'm not even a pro so what the fuck do I even know.

[Anonymous No.943553]

>>943547
Yeah maybe they see you as someone who doesn’t work well with others or you are either a nervous train wreck. Trust me, Nobody wants to works with faggots in any job.

[Anonymous No.943554]

>>943047
>>943092
lol nice

[Anonymous No.943558]

Why is everybody in this thread on AAA level and I'm the only beginner with junk work

[Anonymous No.943561]

>>943558
everyone began with junk. post, get beaten, and you'll get better. you bet that most here deleted most of their beginner attemps in shame of how cringe it looked compared to what they are now. you gotta make cringe, to learn what it is, and then beat the hell out of it. but you gotta do, or you'll stay stagnant for years, that shit goes faster than you think

[Anonymous No.943565]

>>943558
This is the first model I ever made. This was back in 2015 or something, back when I started going to university, just started having maya classes, and Nier Automata was just announced.
It's utter shit. Just plain unfinished. Very wasteful geometry density. Misshapen all over. The hair is like a sad mop. Face looks like a salmon. I didn't know how to make eyes even, so I covered it up awkwardly with bandages as a joke.
My stuff now is not 'AAA level'. It looks like shit to me still. The point is like anon said, Rome wasn't built in a day and everyone starts pushing vertices around. Keep going and you'll learn how you should do your work, what other software to use, what your workflow is, how to enjoy the process, and most importantly, how to disassociate yourself from other people's highlight reels somewhat.
You should think of this thread as a workshop we all share some space in and work in tandem, glancing over every now and then to comment on each other's pieces. Seeing it as some kind of competition is stupid. Just embrace your shittiness, post your stuff and be a part of the group, anon.

[Anonymous No.943568]

>>943558
im the first one who replied to you, this is was my first attemp in 2015, and i got stuck to that level until 2021. you know why? because I didn't come to circles like these to get feedback because i felt shame of what i produced. without others telling you what you should improve uppon, it'll be very difficult to search and find what you need to learn. value your time more than your shame. the argonian i made last year is not AAA but it i believe is not bad either

[Anonymous No.943570]

I hate working on lighting and it might be single way to salvage this shit

[GQ No.943571]

>>943565
>>943568
And what does you work look like now?

[Anonymous No.943574]

>>943568
looks like child of megaman and xfiles ayy

[Anonymous No.943575]

>>943571

[Anonymous No.943595]

>>943484

He looks to be some kind of Luddite that thinks he's superior for sticking to outdated versions of Blender. Don't take it seriously.

[Anonymous No.943603]

>>943570
Just steal the lighting from a similar, well put together setup. When you're not at the point where you're confident, try to take it as a learning opportunity.

[Anonymous No.943604]

>>943548
>>943547
Dq/Mh anon, you can do it. I have no idea why you're not applying to big names like ILM or even going down the stylized route and applying to Japanese/American studios. Don't be so down on yourself your dingushead.

[Anonymous No.943605]

>>943604
Dropped out of college + Latin american.
Puts me in a hard situation, i have applied to studios a few times but I don't even get a response back.
I'll l probably be doing my own thing for a while and post on these threads again.

[Anonymous No.943606]

>>943605
eres un tonto muchacho. as soon as you get that going you'll be richer than a lawyer if you truly are there

[Anonymous No.943608]

>>943605
Dude people have made it from Syria, don't even sweat it. And I agree with >>943606 this muchacho.

[Anonymous No.943609]

>>943605
You might have luck applying to a sweatshop studio like MPC first, then switching. That's the standard route for indian artists to get the big boy visas

[Anonymous No.943614]

>>943558
I literally posted my first donut just a few days ago

[Anonymous No.943616]

>>943614
It was clearly a AAA donut.

[Anonymous No.943617]

>>943558
lol this happens every 10 or so WIP threads
heavy hitters decide to drop in and flex a little

[Anonymous No.943628]

I have created pork

[Anonymous No.943671]

>>943628
Now show it's ham

[Anonymous No.943684]

>>943605
Lmao I would pass you as younger raf grasetti but unfortunately you didn't live in his era now everyone's mother is a blender user gunning for junior positions.

[Anonymous No.943686]

still not fan of it but feels warmer, more welcome than before

[Anonymous No.943693]

>>943686
get some better lighting, everything is too uniform

[Anonymous No.943707]

>>943686
Is that a candle burning on the table? It doesn't seem to be emitting much light.

[Anonymous No.943708]

>>943671
Heh

[Anonymous No.943709]

>>943686
Cool stuff, looks like a cutscene out of one of those late 90s games

[Anonymous No.943722]

>>943686
Reminds me of Lords of Magic in a good way.
You need to have a heavier hand with the lights though, the way the intensity is now, it really do be looking a little bit like that late 90's pre-renders.

[Anonymous No.943728]

>>943686
this is one of those classic traps
>i've spent a lot of time modelling and texturing everything so i need it all to be well lit so everyone can see all my work

[Anonymous No.943746]

>>943605
>i have applied to studios a few times but I don't even get a response back.
From what you posted here, you're a good sculptor but to get into studios you need to showcase more than sculpts. You need to have examples of the whole pipeline/process, either for cinematic or game characters. Otherwise no one will hire you ever no matter how good your sculpting skills are

[Anonymous No.943760]

>>943746
As long as it's decent right? I don't think I'm there yet, but I do enjoy working with the Unreal Material graph quite a lot.
>>943606
>>943608
>>943609
Well need at least 10 years experience for a visa without a degree, and I got like 0 of that now, maybe in terms of skill I'm getting closer to what's required but it does not change the fact that i got no proper professional experience, I don't know if any company would hire me as a junior and give me a visa for that but who knows.

[Anonymous No.943793]

Having a really hard time getting the settings for thick vinyl right in the cloth simulation.

[Anonymous No.943813]

>>943760
>As long as it's decent right?
Studios are usually looking for excellence when they hire because there are so many artists from which they can choose. Basically you need to be at least AA level in the following: sculpting, texturing, optimization(uv-ing and retopology), real-time hair grooming/baking(you might get away without the real time hair skill if you go specifically for studios that do stylized only, but then you ability to stylize concepts takes the place of the grooming), presentation. You also need to have the right attitude to feedback. So you need a portfolio that showcases all that.
The only difference between someone hired as a junior at a studio and someone hired as a senior is the speed they finish their tasks(and sometimes not even that). At least that's how it is nowadays.

[Anonymous No.943815]

>>943760
Can you pick up some freelance stuff doing anime statues or similar? Seems pretty common for brazilian and indonesian remote artists

[Anonymous No.943820]

Didn't had much time to work on this project, glad some of you liked it for not so intended s90 aesthetic but I shouldn't complain, still looks like shit but I guess I should be glad that I wasn't aborted, I will check lighting tutorials later on, lighting is my biggest weakness for sure.

[Anonymous No.943848]

>>943103
everything is stolen IP
Working on the B-wing now

[Anonymous No.943851]

>>943760
Your sculpt levels are definitely good enough, but yea, you do need basically >>943813 this anon's list. I thought I remembered one of your pieces having texture work done in substance, but perhaps I'm misremembering.

But yes, if your portfolio shows you can do this on your own and wow that style? The studios WILL want you.

[Anonymous No.943883]

>>943813
My approach so far has been becoming very good at one thing and decent at everything else, can't say it's worked so far tho, but I do have a pretty solid understanding of all aspects of asset creation.
I'll be looking for feedback in the next thread, IDK who lurks in here but some people seem like they know what's up for sure.
>>943815
good I hate those 3d printed super hero statues and all that shit, I wanna make games
>>943851
I'm ok at substance but definitely I need more practice, you probably mean pic related, I'm trying to become better at texturing and lighting currently

[Anonymous No.943909]

>>943883
Why stay here? did somebody bully you in discord? lol

[Anonymous No.943914]

>>943909
Fuck discord, it's the cringiest shit ever, like it here much better.

[Anonymous No.943915]

>>943909
At least the schitzos here are funny

[Anonymous No.943925]

>>943914
Yeah I mean who the fuck puts the studio they work for beside their zoomer names as if it was a professional designation?

[Anonymous No.943932]

>>943925
And just the general pat in the back attitude, everyone's afraid to sound overtly serious so they have to resort to overusing emojis, plus the reddit banter, fuck that shit seriously.

[Anonymous No.943969]

>>943793
Looks pretty good to me, especially those random dents that don't pop out until it's full.
Only thing I would look into is staggering the inflation a bit. So some parts inflate at different rates based on where the nozzle would be, and how the pool constructed.
I don't know if that's doable with whichever sim you're using, but it's definitely something that would add to the realism a bit.

[Anonymous No.944007]

>>943932
I think you dodged a bullet there anatomy anon 3d is probably the most thankless job you could do on earth. I have way more respect for janitors keeping the workplace clean than some random 3d monkey pushing pixels nobody cares about. If you wanted money, you'd be better of as a programmer to be frank.

[Anonymous No.944131]

>>943568
>the argonian
let's see it anon

[Anonymous No.944132]

>>943693
>get some better lighting, everything is too uniform
better but less

[Anonymous No.944134]

>>943548
>'oh woe is me, look at these pathetic amalgamations of polygons I've shat out, you could not call this art even'
>'ah yes I truly belong here with you people, these threads are my home now, misery does love company and I am accepted nowhere else with my level of skill, oh how many years I've wasted on 3D but I've accepted my circumstances now'
>casually dumps work that surpasses the thread average by several orders of magnitude

Either autistic, unable to read the room and severely, massively lacking in self-awareness or as >>943617 pointed out, bit of a disingenuous heavy hitter who came to stealth flex on the rest of us. And I gotta say, I'm not buying the woe is me angle on this one.

[Anonymous No.944137]

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>>944133