/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>10851760
Well ask the questions then you fucking piece of shit

1. What is the best answer to 'why do you want to work for us?"
2. Should i emphasize how much i want to work for them and how motivated i am?

>>10851777
1. What is the best answer to 'why do you want to work for us?"
>I require currency to acquire the basic goods to protect my body from death from the elements

>>10851846
We have 10 more people like you who want to work just to acquire currency. Some of them have more reasons besides that. Thanks, next please

Bamp.
My friend how has been hiring people recently said that it doesnt really matter how well you are dressed if you are confident and know what you are talking about

>>10851777
>career advancement
>community of like-minded individuals working towards a collective goal
>achieving something bigger than you could do alone

anything that might demonstrate that you're a person with larger aspirations than mere survival

>>10852680
Just what i was looking for thank you

What is the general consensus for salary negotiation ?
How can i identify what should be my floor and how much should i expect

>>10851760
you're hired

>>10851760
Does the boomer tactic of going in and give the manager a firm handshake work?

Bamp

>>10852185
Having a job is a protected human right.

>tfw failed job interview after failing two easy technical questions and kicking myself

>>10853474
Always give a handshake. The boomer will know its a meme too but will lap that shit up. Shake all the mens hands and give the ladies a light open handed handshake palm up and small bow. Hired.

>>10851777
just say something about how the firms ______ initiative shows that their ambitions align with your own and you feel that you can maximise your potential here

>>10853047
Bamp on this

>>10853715
nope?

>>10851846
kek

Bamp

>>10851760
Who's the girl?

>>10851777
Remember, it's about them, not you.

Check out YouTube if The Job Search Minute. It's a guy with a lisp who does super short videos and tells you how to answer common interview questions.

>>10851777
Try to use the word synergy.

>so anon what are your salary expectations?
How do I answer this

>>10851777
i already looked up the correct answers to all your questions on the internet, so you should probably stop wasting my time with your gibberish and just give me the job..

>>10851760
I would love to find an open job first. The interview part is a bit easy in comparison

>>10851760
>going for a job interview during alt season
why live?

Most relevant thread, poasting here
>been kept as temp 4 months at job when was told it would be a two week temp period
>been dealing with it but trying to push them, they keep saying they need to get the position approved
>been 4 months of that shit? wtf? It doesn't take more than five minutes to walk down the hall and get someone to sign a paper
>my manager is nice and knows I'm pretty fucking livid about it
>pushed her to talk to her boss about it again today
>got answer that it's more temp period another month or more because still not finalized or whatever bullshit
>told her I'm going to start applying for other jobs if they don't perm hire me
Did I fuck up? Was it a shittest to see if I would display dominance?

>>10851777
>why do you want to work for us?"
"the role suits me well because X and Y, I like doing this stuff"
>2. Should i emphasize how much i want to work for them and how motivated i am?
only if you're being genuine.
what you should advertise most is you're reliable. that's what companies generally want. low risk drone that will show up every day.
>>10858834
yes and no.
If you know you'd have no problem getting another job, simply put in your two weeks notice to the manager (don't tell anyone else). If they really want to keep you they will give you what you want. they can save face by offering you something to stay in the job rather than everyone thinking you're going to quit and you suddenly don't.
Some people say to look for another job and have the job offer in hand, but to me that's just stringing another company along. Might hurt your reputation too as companies tend to talk to each other about candidates.

>>10858907
On average it takes me about 2 months to find a new job. I might get lucky and manage sooner...but my finances are actually tight and I don't want to miss the pay. I had a lot of big emergency expenses lately.
Thanks though, I'll keep that in mind. I heard the "job offer in hand" advice, but frankly I've never received a written offer from any job. Maybe that would work in the 80's.
I don't think they would outright fire me as too much of a troublemaker...? I really hate this politics shit. Where's the middle ground between troublemaking asshole or weak-chinned doormat?

>>10858963
if you're a temp it usually means you're young without experience and basically expendable.
once you have a good chunk of savings and experience you have more negotiating power since you can quit without any negative repercussions.

The question is always "how easy am I to replace?". If the answer is easy, you have no negotiating power. If the answer is "it'll take them 6 months to train a new hire, and they only hire people with a degree or certs that I have" , you have some power.

>>10851777
gimmie dat MONEY boi
then do the dabbing motion

>>10859057
>"it'll take them 6 months to train a new hire, and they only hire people with a degree or certs that I have" ,
Well, I have some power then, I have a degree and 7 months of experience. But no, that's a good breakdown. I am hesitant on it because I know I shouldn't push too hard, I'm still a small dog. But fuck man.
Thing is someone else is leaving in a week and I'm taking over their job in addition to mine. Obviously I want some fucking compensation.

>>10859203
what happened to me was i was in the position for 8 months and i'd asked for a raise twice and they made up bullshit excuses. (i was lowballed on my initial offer and was already outperforming the senior in my role)
my manager liked me and I was doing good work, and realistically it would have took at least 6 months minimum to get anyone to my level of competence
when i told them I was quitting they immediately offered a raise.
i didn't want it anymore by then but when they play the stupid game you have to use the same bullshit to them back.

>>10851760
>>10851777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URtQAa3Y-ns

>>10854444

I don't believe that for one second

>>10851760
if you look like that you just turn up and get hired

Aight im going in in 30min. Wish me luck

At my interview we're expected to do a practical test with excel. Could anyone give a rundown of some common things you do in excel, so I can study? Barely used it in my life.

Thanks.

>>10854444
checked

is this not a meme?

>>10851760
>>10851777
Check out this guy's videos. Helped me a ton when I was looking for a job earlier this year.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO_wKhaY1AAqLM918_8RFWeNGi5jGSqBW

>>10861763
>get to the interview a bit early
>all confident, chat with receptionist
>handshake the interviewer and smile
>answer questions exactly how interviewer expects me to answer
>thank you for your time, it was a pleasure
>give a limp handshake where he grabbed my arm by mu knuckles and and barely reached his palm

I feel like i failed. Might as well shouted that i dont need the job anyway.
Tell me everythings gonna be fine

Bamp

hangon anon, I will upload this audiobook with some short punchy explanations of what these corporate types want

>>10863017
Here anon,
https://www4.zippyshare.com/v/fMK7UOub/file.html..

The book is 25 Things to Say to An Interviewer to Get the Job You Want by Dexter Hawk.

I guess it is also on youtube and you can find some pdfs of it online. whatever.

>>10852680
I would steer clear of simply replying "career advancement". It can come off as self-indulgent when the hiring team is looking for someone who shares their goals (or is at least fun/friendly to work with).

>>10858834
holy fuck anon, if they told you it was a temp job, you should have been looking for other work the whole time.

finding a good job is like dating.
try to keep more than one on the line at any given time, and do not put all your eggs in one basket.

and dating is like buying a car.
realize that you wont keep that car for the rest of your life. take good care of it, spend money when you need to, but always be checking the classifieds for better options. never buy new unless your sure you want to be the first and last owner.

>what's your weakness anon?
>I'm bad with names

it's fucking true anyway, I can't remember them for squat

>>10863155
It was supposed to be temp to hire.
>tired from working all the fucking time
>supposed to use what little energy I have to look for other jobs
God fuck this wageslavery scam.

>>10861820
watch some excel advanced functions tutorials on youtube (and intro, if you never used it)

expect some vlookup, sum, formatting and generally know how to handle it, so you don't look like you're totally fresh when getting questions

>non technical interview
End every response with a question. If your interview consists of you answering question after question you failed. The guy that gets the job is the Chad that had the confidence to engage the interviewer in a conversation.

Example: I want to work at this company because blah blah blah. How long have you worked here Mr. Hiring manager? Wow, that's great, what is your favorite part about this company? How have things changed over the years?

>>10863180
what part of temp-to-hire is suppose to give you the expectation that you will be hired? If they wanted you, they'd just hire you. You gotta get inside their head.

that's just like going into a relationship "we're friends with benefits, but if it lasts more than a month we'll get married."
you better be sending some flirty texts off to other women just to keep your practice up.
Just because you're tired from working your main source doesn't mean you are allowed to let off the hunt.

I'm sorry to say this anon, but you're never going to make it.

>>10859057
At jiffy lube, the turnover rate is immense, but its impossible to get fired once you're trained because most people quit before then

One guy was a regular no call no show, had 16 write ups for it, and nobody liked him. He ended up QUITTING (not getting fired)