/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>11401383
First for VIX dropping 2 dollars today.

>>11401383
how much money do you have invested? in which stocks?

>>11401383
We bull in all markets except stocks now boys

LETS GO BULLLLS OH OH OH OH OH

>>11401383
own 11/9 SPY $289 calls.

JUST.

Peter Shill likes to say that gold is real money but what makes gold valuable except the limited supply?

>>11401453

What makes anything valuable?

>>11401383

DIVIDEND STOCKS ARE THE FUTURE

>>11401383
we gonna make it

Anyone have any ideas for memes, shoot em at me. Im bored and have photo shop

POST ALL YOUR GREEN BULLISH PEPES. WE NEED THIS WEEK TO BE THE GREENEST WEEK EVER

>>11401453
boomer power

>>11401463
well thats complicated, bitcoin is valuable cuz blockchain meme and limited supply, dollar is valuable cuz of its place in worlds economy even with unlimited supply, gold is valuable cuz ??

>>11401453
Gold and silver are just ugly rocks
Not sure why anyone would buy it over something like Rubies Pearls and Emeralds
Imao that havent even beat treasuries over the last 100 years

>>11401487
Id like to have bobo+green wojak or bull hug and also "push it sideways" meme when bobo and bull are shopped onto bogs calling each other

>>11401490
Sounds like you have money to lose mate. Guess that means RED WEEK.

>>11401490

>>11401490
mfw it doesnt even attempt to retest

ATVI is going to moon!!!!

>>11401510

Green hex

>>11401573
Already made its attempt on Friday anon, I’m sorry but you’re too late

>>11401648
awesome! thank you
r u dyslexic or did you write bogdanoff wrong on purpose?

>>11401490
I have bad news for you...

>>11401675
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-10-14-digital-sales-of-call-of-duty-black-ops-4-breaks-playstation-and-activision-records

Yep, I'm thinking we're back.

Is aerospace a good sector to long right now?

Here I am with plays I want to make and am waiting for my new account to open hopefully tomorrow. Mercy
I don't want to miss out on the gains

>>11401737
it's PRICED IN m8
Expect dump on monday

>>11401804
What do you think about steel refinement? Is that a good market to long right now?

>>11401804
what plays

>>11401823
Not sure because of the tariffs being imposed on it

granted I'm not familiar with that sector, granted with silver at all time lows and Saudi 'threatening' it'll be interesting to see how the metals and industrial sector do

>>11401823
I know it's not steel, but Alcoa has seemed like a strong company for centuries, from the 19th century, and it is the 21st currently.

>>11401712
oh i pronounce their name wrong apparently kek

>>11401781

>>11401814

I just want to say that I honestly have no idea what the market is going to do on any given day.

>>11401852
I posted yesterday
TNDM calls
GE puts
TQQQ calls
F puts
and a few others like KO and SQ calls too

>>11401905
tndm might reverse, but not in ideal conditions.
I'm already in ge puts.
tqqq looks good
f looks like it might reverse, but conditions have to be better.
ko will reverse in a later time, but not yet.
sq may reverse but not in ideal conditions.

>>11401942
I know I'm hoping account opens by lunch, I see how its trending, if for some reason it's red sea, more F and GE puts
if green horizons, I'll take the KO, TNDM, SQ, and TQQQ calls because they'll 'bounce' with the rest.
I do weekly-bi weekly option expiries anyways so who knows
what would your plays be with 5k?
I'm also looking at TRST, OGI and APH for the marijuana sector

>>11401854
Tariffs aren't affecting steel in US. We have coal and iron, plenty of it. There are also the educational needs for studying how thermodynamics affect chemical and physical properties of the steel. I know China doesn't do that as it is now, and even if they stole everything that we know that they do not, they would still need decades to understand how to implement all of those data records . I might be studying it the issue my post as well a little too deep.
Edit: What's wrong with this meme?

>>11401978
i would portion size it as i do now, probably use 400-500 max per trade. i'm looking at ge puts, aaoi calls, tlt calls, c calls, calm calls, etc.

>>11401889
I am long ATVI m8
I know about Wall Street's PRICED IN bullshit

>>11401978
MJ is wobbly right now, i suggest being careful none of those stocks look appealing to me.

>>11401984
"The administration of U.S. President Donald Trump imposed tariffs on imported steel and aluminum from Canada and Mexico in June, citing a risk to U.S. national security."

in the sense that theUS has privatized their steel from the rest of NA, it'll make it rise locally+ with international conflict looming and china fucking comitting sepuku on itself

OH-- the big shit is pork futures, china poisoned themselves and pigs are dying everywhere over there and pigs are a status symbol too. so that's something to look into after longing american infrastructure- heck John deere is one I'd Long- always going to need tools, agriculture is good,

>futures going back down again

>>11401995
>>11402011
appreciate the advice, MJ is wobbly but APH is leading the sector behind CGC, and the other two are the 'up and comings'

as for the portion plays, gonna need green for those calls, but yeah 500$ is typically the tops I go for options

hoping to start getting into shares more but I need more capital- thus the riskier plays.

>>11401383
Trying to convince my parents into going into the stock market, but at the moment they are reluctant. Can /biz/ help me.

>>11402042
Never do this
When it crashes or they lose money they will blame you

>>11402040
never fomo my fren, i know i coulda made more money if i fomoed those spy puts earlier last week, but i made a decent amount. i'm just happy the method i'm developing is working.

>>11402025
its just Bank of Japan throwing up a few hedge positions before they /Pump it/

>>11402025
I love the smell of red candles in the morning.
Gentlemen, buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

Nikkei falling like cherry blossoms

>>11401383
Reminder that Bulls are child sacrificing Moloch worshipers.

>>11402020
The last I heard about a year ago was Trump opening up the Chinese market to pork industries in the US. That would definitely provide a boon for American farmers, even feed grain suppliers. It would not however behoove the foreign markets currently supply the market in China. They would lose, and that to me suggests some retribution or reprival by their effect.
>
Now steel. This is a great position for new steel suppliers, refiners, manipulators, and including black smiths, to establish new businesses or to expand if already established.

I think that might mean there will be many demands for current steel to construct refineries, for consumables like coal to create the steel, for other consumables to make welding sticks and tools to work the steel.

Regardless of subsidies, even debt but preferably grant, I would invest in new businesses putting their own cash in, but many people do not that at that point. My point being though, that these cash capital small businesses will increase so much so quickly that the vertical markets beneath these, fulfilling the needs of these small businesses will have quick growth sustained for some time after the growth.
>
When are people going to sell once the price has sustained plateau? Not sure how long that is, but it depends on what barter they make in the market. There is no reason someone cannot sell shares in a company for gold. They can also sell in wheat.

It's neat to read how this stuff works.

>>11401383
Can I get the google drive link for Intelligent Investor?

RED WEEK
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>>11401868
Are you the one making all those silver threads? Get out.

>>11402167
Nah im just a guy whose bagholding alot of USLV.

>>11402182
Based.

>>11401797
not my cup of tea, Im more of a bio + media kind of guy

I'm taking a long position on AMD. Bought $2000 worth on Thursday. Dropping another $3000 on market opening tomorrow.

>>11402210
pump it back up to 31 would ya, my calls are fucked kek

what site do you guys use to watch international markets?

>>11402210
I think it will still go quite a bit higher. But the mood got more pessimistic over the last several weeks despite no solid news. Intel said they would be fine and then suddenly AMD became a shit company ready to fall back to 20.

>>11402206
It's gonna be another literal dotcom crash, but impact more of the semiconductors like intel, and it will cause infrastructure to crash for some reason. That's what this crash is going to do. How are people going to survive it?

>>11402251
I check the futures page(s) on bloomberg

>>11402216
ouch you bought at he peak

>>11402147
so what are your plays buddy?
>>11402053
emotions are tricky to seperate but if I don't get my account till tuesday, so be it, I'll return asking for plays because my options will be up and gone haha. and MJ will be legal in canada so wonder about the sell off.

>>11401383
what are your thoughts on WEED stocks? ive got about $2500 on CGC right now.

you think that theyll just skyrocket on OCT. 17th cause of the hype?

>>11402259
and thats why I feel alright in biotech that can not fell in long run and media is like the only thing that can make money no matter what is happening until something is happening

>>11402279
looks like its on a downward trend for now.

>>11402279
i'd wait it out until it stops moving sideways. overall looks like a potential downward movement.

>>11402317
that is unless there is a significant change in the coming week in an upward movement.

>>11402259
>"Outperform," they said.
>"$100 PT," they said.
>tfw bought some hefty $57 bags

Why the FUCK is Nikkei dropping like a fly

>>11402345
Yen carry traders
When the spx drops this destorys the nikkei

>>11402279
Listen, the big talk is, one or two might get bought , but overall probably a sell-off as saturation hits the market, but long term gains if you're into holding
granted the projection is canada's going to run out of weed fast so idk if that'll cause a bump or what

>>11402267
>plays
I am feeling strong on longing etfs, but I would also keep the commodity prices related in view. Maybe look into magnesium, manganese, I also know phosphorus, sulfur, maybe arsenic. I am not sure about uranium right now. I want to emphasize steel related etfs.
>>11402291
>biotech
There will still be research, but there are many paths of research that businesses follow in the research market. Manufacture, I do not know what biotech manufacturers consider ethical. Not all research is fetal stem cells which includes aborted stem cells and embilical cord stem cells and foreskin stem cells. Really wrong to use anything but adult stem cells at the agreement of the adult harvested.
However, that means it would be easy to find what to long with this known.
Thanks for this tip.
>media, longing
I hadn't even considered buying Disney or Warner Bros. or any media at all. What have you seen in the wild that leaves you this?
>
I wouldn't short biotech, but I sure would see how the techniques work and what supplies are needed for those techniques.
I wouldn't want to support using child stem cells. Imagine they go another step forward and find undeveloped eggs in prepubescent little girls provides the best stem cell available. That just sounds the direction it is going. It makes me sick to think of them harvesting foreskin from male babies, but I can see that it would go further to making little prepubescent girls infertal by harvesting their eggs prematurely without fertilization, all because they discovered recently that a single undeveloped, unfertilized egg makes the best stem cell.

wheres the green,bros

>>11402378
>wahh dont use stem cells and fetuses because of muh christian morals

Chinese biotech will be top tier in a few decades because of faggots like you

>>11402020

>the big shit is pork futures, china poisoned themselves and pigs are dying everywhere over there and pigs are a status symbol too.

What does that mean? Short Chinese Pork?

>>11402279
overvalued,abundant and too much competition. weed companies need to do something unique for them to survive.

>>11402393
I find it immoral. I always will. I will also suggest that people boycott those industries. I find that it traps the soul of those involved. When someone donates an organ, like a heart, that organ is alive until the person receiving dies. That is a person who is still living, in part.

>>11401453
>>11401463
>>11401500

historically gold and silver have been the only ways to amass wealth, since they are nobel metals (chemically inert in open atmosphere)

wood rots, meat rots, salt disappears, animals die, iron rusts

but gold and silver, those are stores of value that dont (physically) decay with time
gold is also soft and easy to bend/mold into a coin

nowadays it has an inflated price, holding it back from its many industrial applications (golden and silver wires are better for power transfer than copper is, for example)
and its still rare, until we start asteroid mining, which will crash the price with no survivors

>>11402159
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rq9DS_rEFIy8JrEeiDDqRhrviAy0Nnqj

>>11402423
>I find it immoral. I always will. I will also suggest that people boycott those industries. I find that it traps the soul of those involved. When someone donates an organ, like a heart, that organ is alive until the person receiving dies. That is a person who is still living, in part.

People like you should be gassed for crimes against humanity.

>futures going back up

I think we can all agree that Friday was a dead cat bounce after seeing the Nikkei right now. The only question is how low will S&P 500 fall? 10%? 20%? 50%? I think a 20% correction is inevitable so far.

>>11402443
t.BLACKED.com aficionado

>>11402447
bears try to swipe us down, we come back twice as hard

>>11402412
>>11402279
If you guys want to invest in weed companies, I would recommend you start cold calling and sending out letters to medical marijuana companies, the newest is Oklahoma. And tell these companies that you want to invest cash money, literal Dollars, tangible.
They will either reject or accept, but they will start making bank quick. Even in established places like Colorado or Oregon. California might be a decent State, because people like to know, "Oh. This is California bud."
That's the best way to invest in these businesses. I would check with the FBI, your State laws, local laws, but definitely consider that a means to invest and get returns.
Of course, you need to set a time period with these companies when they have the right to buy out your share in the business, and leave you the right to make a counter-offer to buy their share in the business.
That's a good way to do business.

>>11402460
Thanks for the support.

>>11402460
I will enjoy watching you reject CRISPR treatment for your future type 2 diabetes.

>>11402459
10-12%.

>>11402447
>>11402462
We've got a good week ahead of us, boys.

>>11401501
bitcoin isn't valuable

>>11402485
Dude, that's virus stuff. I would rather them do something else than use a virus that can infect humans. Imagine if it mutates and a mosquito becomes a vector for it. The world is dead.

S&P futures.

Inverted the graph so it's upside down. Pendant formation. Bulls need to break two resistance points.

Open those wallets paypigs.

>>11402529
Congrats, you win the brainlet post ITT of the week!

>>11402529
I don't have to imagine anything because I actually have an understanding of biology.

Also fetuses and stem cells are/will continue to be valuable for developing medical therapies with CRISPR.

Enjoy dying to diabetes cleetus, you will deserve it.

>>11402575
Pic related.
>>11402580
>CRISPR uses child stem cells
That sucks.

>>11402572
the buying interest @ 2755 was crazy
that will probably be the floor for now

>>11402259
We're in month 112 of the second longest boom in US history.

The longest boom was 120 months, and ended with the dotcom bust. So we have about 8 months to go and time is running out. I don't know if we can break that resistance. I expect a bust within a year, either that or a manufactured war.

Will Austrian economics stand vindicated and will the bust cause people to question our current monetary system? I don't think so. "Trumponomics" will be the scapegoat, and Berniecrats will capitalize (lul) on the upheaval and overthrow the current order, peacefully or otherwise, and drive us ever further towards oblivion.

>>11402666
I have no control over this and it scares me.

>>11402666
Holy shit. Those trips.

>>11402447

>>11402666
so buy food water guns and silver now?

>>11402722
all of those things should make up 15% of your portfolio, along with gold and hookers that accept silver as payment.

>>11402259
>>11402666
I totally forgot Semiconductors were suppose to get fucked around this time of year. Remember reading about it in a few news site but I forgot what the catalyst for the sectors crash would be.

Is it enough to bring down the market? Maybe.

>>11402748
Good time to buy haha right

>>11402666
trips confirm, shitstorms a comin fellas

>>11402748
From the hardware exploits, especially the hardware bugs in the x86 license, show that consumers are getting edgy about PC's. I bet smartphones and tablets see a boost of growth for the next few years. It pisses me off that Intel allowed this shit into their licensed property. It shows how well AMD follow their license terms with allowing this kind of hardware exploits.

>>11402666
Did the August 2015 drop not reset the clock?

Chemist here, you all should look into graphene.
It'll be used pretty much everywhere in the future.

>>11402796
it did, but doomsday media likes to think otherwise

>>11402806
Whats the ticker.

this week is going to be so fucking green boys 2-3% weekly gain MINIMUM

>>11402806
>graphene
hot tip but not a lot of graphene companies out there now
where to look?

>>11402847
IT FUCKING BETTER BE OR IM DONE SON

>>11402849
>11402849
https://www.graphene-info.com/graphene-investing
have not read it yet, first google result

>>11402666
>let's all ignore the several corrections that have happened since 2008

DOOM DOOM DOOM DOOOM

Nah. Bullshit. Leftist fud trying to bust the economy before midterms.

>>11401463
its use to get any other thing

>>11402824
>>11402859
Thanks I feel smart now lol.

>>11402828
>>11402849
In time companies will go public and you'll be able to invest in them.
If any of you trade through TD Ameritrade, hit up Samsung. They've got tons of pending patents waiting around for graphene use.
If you're someone who has money to blow, hit up manufacturers personally and invest the minimum amount they're willing to accept.
If you can find a manufacturer through google, and they have a "Want to invest?" or even a "Contact us" tab on the site, hit them up and see if you can invest.
By 2025-2030 you'll be filthy rich.
Mind you, this is coming from a chemist here. The military, construction compaies, and the tech industry will abuse graphene.

>>11402847
Get ready to laugh at some bears.

>>11402900
also even if you ignore the corrections in 2010 2012 and 2015 the 1950s bullrun was still longer and stronger, the articles are just lies

>>11402900

Financials will boost the indices. Bunch coming out this week. Futures being red and Japan dumping is just jitters from last week. For a real proper crash you need backing by actual bad numbers. Economy is strong in the US and there aren't going to be any bad numbers. Watch and see.

futures seem to have calmed down a bit. stuck on that vwap

Who here was alive during the Great Recession of 2008?

>>11402908
1 american tricker $GGG
3 canadian $ERA $LLG $NGC
3 british $AGM $VRS $HAYD
and a aussie and chinese one
all dirt cheap pennies.
Interesting to see will take note

>>11402943

Notable financials for tomorrow are: Bank of America and Charles Schwab. Lots more coming in the following days.

>tfw will continue to patiently hold my GALT and VTGN net week and watch the numbers go up and down

>>11402943
New china tariffs are going to destroy earnings season. I can't take you seriously. You are literally telling people to ignore reality as the market is plummeting in front of their eyes.

>>11403017
>he doesnt trust the trump economy

black monday
am you of ready for really bad day

>>11403017
SHUT THE FUCK UP THE TARIFFS ARE GAY AND HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH US MARKET CHINA CAN EAT DIRT AND DIE DOW 30000 EOY

>>11403017

No, I am saying don't panic and don't sell at a loss for this fake ass meme dip.

This looks like a good market to find some longs, but it's also open for shorts shotgun blasted across sectors. Find those shorts then buy up longs. Cover with other leverage. It's the fastest way to money from the stock market. If everyone in every country with a stock market applied these ideas, they would make their markets grow because they weed out the soft stocks, which makes the soft stocks perform stronger in actual customer happiness and consumer recognition.
People then begin to sell, not short, from the stocks they longed. They use that cash, and possibly short a completely irrelevant industry, to buy up in this company they had shorted 5 or more months prior.
This means that the business does not die, '
man,
I am telling you that the stock market kills public businesses or causes their consumption. Very few businesses are able to consume businesses like these.
There are businesses for all purposes.
Think about this.
What is the sewage pumping service industry doing at this moment? Are many people having their septic tanks pumped?
Why does the septic tank need pumped?
It's easy to see how diet and the number of people in that house would affect those businesses.
I've heard of construction etfs, but I don't know about honeywagon etfs.
It's just an example.
That's amazing. I am talking to myself.
There are so many laws involved with trading, which makes it hard to stay in a position free from any liability. I tell you, it is necessary to hire lawyer specifically to provide you references or reference for tax and revenue laws for.
4chan is an international website.
Am I breaking laws in a foregin country without having my foot or atom in those countries?
Those laws are tough to follow.
If I break international law, I will leave that up to the State Department to handle those. They have plenty of lawyers. They are given consent

>>11403050
>meme dip
Dude, you gotta realize that a lot of the market is going to plummet because of fundamentals. It has nothing to do but with the supply of demands. The supplies can't be met, which causes the business demanding the supply to raise their price they are willing to provide the supplier if they find it quickly.
That means that the customers of the middleman business, the retail business now that I read it again, are paying greater premiums on what they need to buy.
What is probleming the situation balances with that this 3rd level businesses, are but not always third-party, they can be first-party to retailer, but they might be their own business at a municipal level, and that means people in the neighborhood being fired.
That can affect people in many ways.

>he fell for the crash meme

>>11402210
Smart call. From the past few days of red it had already gone as low as it could without violating fundamentals. It's up from here.

>>11403107

Fake. Ass. Meme. Dip.

>>11403109
Isn't it Edward Bernays Warren Buffet that says to buy the index by shorting it?

>tfw bank earnings this week

>>11403017
>I only look at charts!

>>11403042
>that tone
Dont even bother apologizing
this time, its not enough

>>11403109
this. doesnt even matter to me. i was in on canopy while S+P fell all that way and canopy literally didnt move, and on friday moved up near 7.5%

Just got done paying around $8,000 in income & property taxes... it never gets any easier

I've got nearly 19K shares of LTBR and 11K shares of RAD. Heaven or hell, let's rock.

>>11403137

>>11403176
I have some LTBR.. but come on RAD? what does RAD have going for it?

>>11403193

Just my autist's intuition.

>>11403220
It looks good technically for a short term spike but are you looking for long term? I just can't imagine it having anything going for it.

Faggots
Where the fuck
Do I short the saudi rial? This is by far the most lucrative short possible right now, crypto and stocks can both suck my dick

>>11403245
hmmm i think youre onto something...

>>11403236

Gonna see what it does over the next week or two. It's got me less nervous than LTBR, honestly. LTBR is supposed to get a non-compliance notice on Friday if they don't close over a dollar between now and then.

>>11403266
I cant find where to do it, made a thread. idgaf if a few bizlets get into it aswell but I need to move fast. Fucking london is waking up soon, after that amsterdam/brussels/paris. Evening trading faggot bankers are going to short the living shit out of it

Why is Asia red? Muricans finished green on Friday!

>>11403301
fuaaaark fucking brainlets on this board
SAUDI MONEY IS GOING DOWN
THE JOURNALIST SHIT IS GOING TO ESCALATE
TURKEY WILL PROBABLY EITHER RELEASE THE TAPES IN WHICH THEY RECORDED THE KILLING OR JUST SHOW THE PROOF INTERNALLY TO THE USA
AFTER WHICH THE USA IS FORCED TO RESPOND
Even if they dont respond the markets will react and thus plummet

Now that you understand I ask you again
WHERE THE FUCK DO WE SHORT THIS SHIT? WHERE? IT IS 0607 IN THE EU, LONDINISTAN IS 0707 THESE FAGGOTS ARE GOING TO SHORT IT THE SECOND THEY ARRIVE IN THEIR OFFICES

Running out of fucking time here

>>11403375
Better adjust your trading strategy

>>11402004

>>11403402
well stock wise theres something called KSA, check it out. not really the currency though. might have to use forex?

>>11403461
KSA is a shitty ETF to touch. There's a total of 10 companies in it and shit liquidity
0/10

>>11403474
Oh deer it seems I am very drunk rn
It has 74 companies, but bad liquidity
I need to sleep

>>11403477
>>11403474
don't worry bro, with $500 in your account i'm pretty sure there is enough liquidity in that etf for you.

>>11402908
you've got me doing deep dives on graphite and contacting these companies
mercy I've never done this much DD on the industry before
whole markets basically negative because no one knows how to properly produce graphene from graphite in a cost-effective efficient high volume way.
Will report if they reply to me
thanks for this, it's honestly a blast cause it feels like the future gold-rush, and I'm a fucking prospector panning the river

Well if Asian markets predict the rest of the day, we fugged.
If futures predict rest of day, we sideways.
WHY CANT IT EVER BE GREEN REEEE

>>11403461
Yeah I found ksa, high % holding in banks so would be a decent enough thing to short if shorting the SAR itself isn't an option

I checked forex.com out but I dont see the pair listed. Maybe there's some obscure site for these more exotic currencies.
>>11403474
liquidity might be a problem though

the asian markets are sacrificing themselves for our gainz this week.

>>11403486
Thanks! Have a good night!

>>11403531
Laugh meant for you, fren

To the fellows that use robinhood and do options trading. Do you set a sell order with a specific price or do you sell in the moment?

>>11400625
>>11400625
>>11400625

>>11402279
I have a little over $300,000 in Canadian MJ. Hold the largest names and wait for them to announce new projects. Constellation bought into Canopy for $5B, and now there is potential for Altria (Marlboro) to buy into Aphria. Coke might have something to do with Aurora, but that is less solid.

Basically the play is to wait for producers to announce their corporate partnerships soon. Also, foreign expansion and pharma are going to be huge in this sector over the next few months... Gains will be amplified because these companies are in the limelight right now, there is tons of money waiting on the sidelines to be deployed at the drop of any good news releases.

>>11402859
I'm with this line of thought, even without Kizuna Ai

>>11403598
>Implying anime isn't redpilled
>Implying US TV shows aren't pushing a liberal agenda

So who here

WHO HERE

getting ready to get absolutely and utterly JUSTed at market open?

>>11403685
Its over i cant believe were crashing after jp morgan posted record earnings and great guidance

>>11403685
I am from the future anon, this is tomorrow's opening numbers...

I'm conflicted on weed stocks. Canada is set to legalize it on the 17th, I'm assuming that the stocks would rise somewhat, at least some of them. Yet I can't keep thinking that it would tank.

>>11403042
>black monday
black as in out of the red?

so its a green day for stocks?

>>11403129
yes its once again that special time of quarter

its the beginning of earnings season

>>11403375
asias been red all year

>>11403598
>hes right you know

>>11403791
It's gonna tank... don't doubt your own feelings anon... let them guide you...

>>11403685
Only bearfags are going to get JUST'd. BIG ASS GREEN CANDLES tomorrow.

Nasdaq futures are reeeeeed!

>>11403791
I'm hesitant too, but I'm holding $2000 in it, which is baby amounts
the big players like APH, ACB and CGC, will probably take a hit but survive, the rest of the 'hype' stocks will tank
market saturation and all that. It's a bubble of sorts with longterm actual growth but short term fuckery

anywho I'm planning on buying the sell-off, hoping there's one , but we'll see. maybe the'yll moon cause canada is set to run out of weed on the 17th , no joke.

>>11403869
Sheeeeit.

>>11403245
>>11403301
>>11403402
The Saudi riyal is pegged to the dollar, you fucking imbecile. At least do some research before sperging out.

Jamie Dimon became the latest corporate leader to drop out of Saudi Arabia’s “Davos in the Desert” event in the wake of the mysterious disappearance of a prominent government critic in Turkey.

The chief executive officer of JPMorgan Chase & Co., the biggest U.S. bank, won’t attend the conference, bank spokesman Joe Evangelisti wrote in an emailed statement. Evangelisti declined to comment on Dimon’s reason.


Let us remember how Saudi Barbaria captured the prime minister of Lebanon few months back and nobody cared.

What to do for >SAUDI ARABIA PUTS?
how do I make bank over this?

>>11404003
It will never happen but you could long oil and hope they get sanctioned.

>>11403994
Don't mess with the US...

>>11403685

>>11403869

Don't freak out about futures. Ordinarily yeah they're worthwhile to pay attention to but this is a different case with bank earnings week. Bank of America and Chucky Schwabbers have financials out tomorrow morning. Should be prior to market open. If those miss expectations, it's going to be red. If they hit or exceed, markets will be green. Bright green probably as traders pile on in expectation of good earnings from the other banks later in the week.

>>11404032
Dude. What the fuck is going on in the world?

>>11402988
Good find, I shall watch all of these tickers myself.

>>11403494
Remember the law of conservation of math.
Graphite is a resource that is very easy to come by and there are numerous methods of creating graphene.
Through sonication or ECS (electrochemical synthesis), you can acquire a large amount of product.
Many labs have found ways to produce graphene by means of laser, which "could" prompt the possibility of producing large amounts.
However, I believe the easiest, cheapest, and effective method for producing large amounts of graphene is carbon dioxide reduction.
The only two products that will come out of the reaction is pure carbon and magnesium oxide.
When you look at it as a molecule, it's perfect.
A molecule that is composed of nothing but the God organic atom.
With the molecules having a perfect balance of shared electrons all around, including a perfect distance from each other without having a charge to them, not to mention it's 2-D... The molecule itself is capable of doing many things.
It will be the key of what will advance human civilization.
Body armor/suits, computer/automobile components, building structures, phone screen replacement.... pretty much anything you can think of can by improved by graphene, including your bank account.. assuming you invest in it.

>>11403791

Weed stocks will definitely tank before the end of the year. Whether or not 17th will be the sell off point depends on news. The main tickers need to put out some crazy good information for the sector to have much more than a few days worth of fomo hype before profit taking turns to panic selling. For now, the charts indicate to me the bulls wanted to run hard last week but couldn't get traction due to the major index dip. Will this week see them break loose? I don't know.

If Aphria comes out with an NR along the lines of Altria is making a multi billion buck investment (as rumored), bulls gonna run, index dip or no index dip.

>>11404059
>>11403402

The US is keeping the Gulf states in-line.
What else is new?

>>11403017
China so far are still waiting for a response from the WTO, which had been arbitrarily frozen by the US of A since the start of the trade war.
They are already hitting the US where it hurts while the US has been financially shellin' the Chinese stock exchanges.
Most of the Chinese don't even give a toss about the trade war or the fall in stocks becuz of the strength of their real economy.

>>11403908
They are set to run out of weed a little after the 17th. It'll be a couple weeks/months actually. But everyone is hoping to buy the scheduled sell off, which makes me think it wont happen.

>>11404090
News is needed in the sector, but the idea is that legalization will allow these companies to make a track record and outside corporations can analyze the best. IMO the ball for major deals is just beginning to roll. It will be simple and huge money if you pick the right companies.

>vix on friday - 20.50
>vix today -18.5
....did ... did the vix really lose 2 dollars over the weekend?

OHNONONO

>>11404209
>strength of their real economy

Kek is that their strength before or after they cook the books?

Who here comfy in /weedstock/ waiting for the leafs to go legal? Also what's your opinions on the S&P Aerospace & Defense index ETF? It seems like a comfy hold.

> After almost two years of local and central government measures to calm the red-hot market, more signs are emerging that the property sector, a major pillar of China’s economic health, is finally slowing down.

> They come as the Chinese economy faces broader headwinds, including from an intensifying trade war with the United States and the effects of a campaign by the central government to clampdown on easy credit – a campaign that has weighed on both property buyers and developers.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-property/china-property-market-feels-fresh-chill-winter-is-coming-idUSKCN1MO0YZ

Buy oil shorts or bank longs?


>>11403178
Homosuck is shit

>>11404622
>Trump bogs China by threatening trade war
Best timeline.

>>11404622
i watched this video today that showed how supposedly because chinas one child policy, they are about to experience a collapse. no young people or middle aged to do the revenue generating. short china for the next decade?

>>11404705
>as if that was the reason to do it
real brainlet leftist here

>>11404775
>short china
>trump and chink leader reach agreement
>shorts liquidated

>>11404809
I'm not sure about China giving up

>>11404855
what does your crystal ball say?

>>11404432
By that Kindergarten logic, the US and every country on Earth have been cookin' the books.

>>11404705
China's one child policy has already been abandoned in favour of a Two-child policy.
As a direct result, the gender divide has been reduced considerably (Families decide to register their daughters).
Anyway consider this.
>The PRC stops the Two child policy and allow people to have unlimited children
>Rural and Rich folks immediately start pumpin' out children
>The Chinese go back to having 5-to-10 children as per tradition.
Even Soros and his Cabal broke their teeth trying to short the RMB, what makes you think you would fare any better?

>>11404912
>Even Soros and his Cabal broke their teeth trying to short the RMB
?

What does Ford abandoning the saudi conference mean? Is this is bull signal or are we in for a new all time low?

> Supportive words from China’s securities regulator failed to slow the $3 trillion rout in the the nation’s stock market, as evidence of weakening domestic demand added to concern about the trade war with the U.S.
> The Shanghai Composite Index retreated 1.4 percent as of 2:42 p.m. local time to head for its lowest close since November 2014. A gauge of consumer-related shares dropped the most after data showed purchases of passenger vehicles and online appliance sales slumped in September.
> Liu Shiyu, chairman of the China Securities Regulatory Commission, said the country will deepen capital market reforms and press ahead with opening up after he met with investors. The country’s benchmark stock gauge has slumped 19 percent in the past six months as trade tensions increased and data signaled a slowdown in the economy, while the yuan has fallen more than 9 percent.
https://bloom.bg/2IWzTGl

long btc zrx and kpop

>>11404997
I don't know but fuck the saudis. They're long overdue for a paddling.

>>11405146
I agree fuck the saudis but they're still a major player, and if there were an actual bog force in existence the closest thing we get is the house of saud

>>11405183
Their primary weakness is being an oil rich country in the middle east

>>11405057
And hence why China will have to sell off Treasury Bonds and why the Bond market would tank because of it.
But knowing what Bloomberg & FT uses to quantify their Chinese data, they are either being misled or wilfully following the agenda.

>>11405239
>>11405183
>>11405146
Osama was right.

>>11405259
> And hence why China will have to sell off Treasury Bonds and why the Bond market would tank because of it.
Don't quote me but I remember US Treasury saying while ago they don't like what China is doing with Dollars/Bonds.

>>11404666
Answer my query, millenials.

>>11405293
why tf would you short oil? Do you think the saudi shit is gonna brush over immediately before it gets worse? I think it gets worse before it gets better. you can buy bank longs if you think theyre gonna beat earnings this week and the market is gonna pop but shit is such a mess right now

ayyy when china woke up crypto started popping

some other threads say that something called tether is dead?

does this mean china is buying crypto, so redder day for chinese stocks? or is this unrelated to stocks


>dat volume

>>11405379
another coin exit scamming? Say it isn't so!

I think that U.S. can't be too hard on Saudis since, I assume, Trump doesn't want oil price to go up just because of 1 missing/presumed dead journalist. IIRC SA is currently (or will) gap any oil shortage produced by Trump WH actions against Iran, that could be risked if U.S. plans "severe" consequences?

>>11405379
No it means people don’t understand tether, it’s because there was a massive increase in buying which caused a price discrepancy in tether / USD. It will get arbitraged away shortly and if it doesn’t tether will correct itself -/ tether fud is just stupid and wrong right now , but yes crypto markets are going bonkers atm

>>11405445

>>11405445
Whoa wait a second guy. If definitely is not confirmed that Saudi prince actually did that attack, it could easily be a false flag , s LOT of countries hate new Saudi prince and it’s in many peoples interests to take him down. this is people trying to start a war is what’s happening imo. And market crash is related to same people imo.

>>11405450
>>11405440
so its just tether causing every other crypto to pump, and the 3am timing was just coincidence ?

>>11405292
Because China and the rest of the World (India/Russia/Japan/ROK/EU) have been dumping their US bonds.
For China, they didn't want to startle the market initially because they want a return in their investments (A bad economy in the US would spelt disaster for the PRC) and acquire US assets.
But once the US shut down their access through CFIUS and started the trade war, they started selling to finance the deficit.
What the FEDs dislike about it is that it heavily hamstrings any hostile policy that any US administration can take against China.

Tank the Chinese economy, RMB & Stock market?
The Chinese could just sell off their US debt to finance the deficit, which would sink the US bond market.
And if that is not enough, they could sink the USD by converting their USD foreign reserves to RMB to finance the deficit and insisting that their trade partners use CIPS instead.

The reason why the Xi's administration has not done so is the Beggar-thy-beggar effect, making the world(And China) shittier than it already is.

>>11405482
No, it’s not tether causing anything , people are just being dumb. What’s happening here is that people that were sitting in tether are buying crypto in droves , and entering and exiting tether in droves . Someone big or multiple big people must have made some moves , and there is a big price disparity ...but it will not last. All the exchanges are out of whack right now from one another and this will all get fixed via arbitrage shortly. But this happens every time there is a big crypto move , it impacts tether , and every time it happens people freak out about how tether is crashing. This time is like all the previous times. I’m telling the truth , I’ve held tether for 2 years and it’s going to be fine , if you’re in a position where you can do arbitrage right now you should take advantage of it , this won’t last

So imagine when China actually start manipulating its currency
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-11/u-s-treasury-staff-said-to-find-china-isn-t-manipulating-yuan

>>11401383
This is the most based meme yet to come from /pol/. I knew you would be on top of it comfy.

German stock exchange is down. Convenient timing.

>>11405606
> "technical problems"

>>11401383
So who here hasn't bothered with a retirement fund and have been putting their money into the market.

I'm 25 and considering starting my retirement fund as I'm earning enough now.
Would it be wise to just dump everything in the S&P500 and such indices as my retirement money?
Anyone doing this?

>>11405606
Euro exchanges are extremely stable today.

Good morning /smg/

>>11405519
Yep, it's a fucking sad world we live in when China is the reasonable regime out there.

>>11404432
>Kek is that their strength before or after they cook the books?
China's trade surplus to the US has been growing since the beginning of the trade war. The only people impacted by this farce are US consumers.

>>11405754
For retirement, you want to be conservative but aggressive, if that make sense, especially since you're young, broad investment into growing markets with reap huge rewards in 20+ years, just make sure you buy in month by month

IM ALL IN ON SPOTIFY

hell yeah brothers

ruh roh

>>11405844
s it game over for fuckin retards like me?

>>11405844
>The functional equivalent of pre-market trading will directly imply the outcome.
You're playing with something like a few % of people, it's not even a good sample.

>>11405754
What I dislike about S&P and other indexes in general are the rating agencies.
Their way of valuating firms is complete horseshit and they do it intentionally, playing the market.
This has the tendency to screw over newfag wannabe investors like you.
DYOR

>>11405799
You can't afford to be reasonable when you are on the losing end.
Which is why the US gov have been calling back all of its corporations, calling in its investments and pullin' 'its' wealth back, making the rest of the world poorer for it.

>>11405821
>, just make sure you buy in month by month
yeah tat's what i'm thinking. S&P500 and other indices have had solid growth for every decade. seem's much better than any retirement plan.
Though it seems the only thing I have to worry is america blowing up or something.
>>11405888
>What I dislike about S&P and other indexes in general are the rating agencies.
>Their way of valuating firms is complete horseshit and they do it intentionally, playing the market.
What do you mean? I'm pretty sure i would have heard about this already.
>This has the tendency to screw over newfag wannabe investors like you.
>DYOR
do your own research?
Why would they screw over wannabe investors?
From the history S&P500 has had a constant average growth of like 8% over the past few decades. They're my safest and best bet for my retirement fund.
I'll mess with other investment's aswell for fun but I'm playing on using that to store my retirement funds.

how much money am i going to lose tomorrow?

Europe dumping
If premarket reports are bad then selloff confirmed

>>11406049
Europe is flat not dumping

>>11405733
My nigga, $CRBP

Lads what fucked my euro stocks helps

>>11406174
BREXIT news?

>>11406179
I’m talking about last week looking for deep cause

>>11405799
>And if that is not enough, they could sink the USD by converting their USD foreign reserves to RMB to finance the deficit and insisting that their trade partners use CIPS instead.
Won't this just tank RMB?

>>11406174
money leaving for US bonds IMO. Speculative shit didn't dump, but blue chips went down.

>>11406179
Brexit news don't even get a note on stocks. The negociations this weekend were a disaster and the stocks didn't bulge. Probably heading to a no-deal brexit now.

>>11406225
It's going to hurt if it's a no deal

>>11406218
the CCP doesn't give a fuck about their RMB dropping, if anything this is good for their exports.

>>11406231
No-deal is very likely now, all governments prepare for it. It's probably already priced in (tm) by the markets.

Brits are so fucking pathetic.
They should have left immediately after the vote. Now they spent years in constant recession and fear-mongering and will STILL end up crashing. They would have been long over the crisis by now and their economy would be booming if they had an ounce of balls to pull the plug immediately.

"Nanny state" gets another completely new meaning.

>>11401383
really appriciate the help

>>11406266
They wanted to negociaite a good deal, that's understandable. However, they can't even get a stable government to negociate this shit. They gonna get fucked very hard tho, either crashing their economy or becoming a litteral vassal state.

>>11401453
Gold is the OG cryptoscam

>>11402159
Search for it on libgen.io. You can find just about anything you want over there.

>>11406266
>Literally the last chance of that shithole to become a decent country again.
>can’t make its mind
>FTSE does nothing but tanks on a daily

>>11406266
Also, don't forget that they have relied on the EU for so long, their legal and diplomatic system was basically dependant on it. They had to rewrite a shitton of laws for this to work.

>>11406283
>They wanted to negociaite a good deal
By putting a remainer in charge?
No, they wanted to stall everything and gambled on the prospect of changing public opinion after time due to fear-mongering.

How retarded you have to be to half-ass around a deal that had no intention to materialize after years? If they really wanted it they could have done it in a month props.

>>11406339
>By putting a remainer in charge?
Every brexiteer left the stage right after the referendum my dude. Some even left the country.
Also >>11406338.

18 seconds ago

FRANCE AMONG EU STATES NOW WANTING TO STRESS NEED FOR NO-DEAL PREPARATIONS; OTHERS URGE SOFTER TONE AS STILL NEED TO FIND BREXIT DEAL - EU DIPLOMATS


buckle up buttercucks and cups

lmao at all the doomers crying about the dow last week when it didn't even fall below 25k

https://money.cnn.com/video/investing/2018/09/10/bitcoin-investment-loss.cnnmoney/index.html?iid=ob_marketpg_video

>"up to regulators to curb impulses"
the future of america you're lookin at it. pussy ass cracka's

So is Plus500 a scam or something? Heard a friend is with them but when I first started I stayed away because the reviews made them seem shady.

Tell me honestly, should I invest now or is the crash coming soon?

>>11406656
It's safe. Nothing to fear.

>>11406465
It's a bit old, it's from one or two weeks ago.

Is MNGA a stock worth betting on

>>11406640
>So is Plus500 a scam or something
been using it as a demo for awhile now.
It's alright but doesn't have too many stocks listed. It seem's to be only eft options though so really your now buying stocks.
I have heard some people being locked out their account because of suspicious activity and having to produce form of ID and have their account under review. Which cause some of their options to expire and they lost money.

>>11405943
hello guys?

>>11406656
invest now and every time it goes down double up

>>11406741
Nope only MAGA

>>11405943
Ratings agencies got in a big scandal in 08 for rating dogshit like it was gold. And they did it to sell it to people who care about ratings (You) and so financial advisors/brokers could sell them to retails. They took bribes for it.
Putting your life into SPX is ok if you can hold through recessions and don’t end up retiring at the bottom of one.

>tfw fell for the bull trap friday

>>11406978
Don't worry. The PPT will be out in force this morning to ensure everyone trades correctly.

>>11406978
what bull trap? i made 7% gains

GBTC has 0% premium in pre market right now. finna pump.

>>11406978
>bull trap
How so? Did you dump everything into Sears and end up surprised when they filed for bankruptcy? I don't understand the claim here.

>>11407015
this

>>11407015
wasn't their a "funds secured" announcement for sears on friday when it was up 20%.

>>11407015
>>11407005
He's saying Friday was a bulltrap. Market going to crash today. I'd agree if things weren't rigged. Had to fall farther for a true correction but stock prices falling is now illegal so we just have to inflate the bubble a bit more.

>>11407037
You may want to brush up on your reading comprehension. It's quite clear I know exactly what he's talking about and have made a comment poking fun at their expense. Your response is disjointed and provides no further reason to why I should believe this claim.

>>11407037
>but stock prices falling is now illegal so we just have to inflate the bubble a bit more.
Wait what ?

SSSSSIP! What are you guys sssssssippin'?

Who actually makes the new threads? Is it one person?

>>11407060

>>11407045
99%tile SATs and LSAT but thanks for your concern. The proper response is "You can sell AH/Pre market. There's no bulltrap if you get out." then he would reply "my broker can't do that." And you could skip the part where you're a condescending asshole.

>>11407066
It's done by the invisible hand of the market.

>>11407074
Wow. You're unintelligible at this point, puffing your chest online with unverifiable, irrelevant information. Withdraw before you make a bigger fool out of yourself. A sterling demonstration of how to embarrass yourself, even when acting anonymously. Clown.

>>11407060
spotify

>>11407037
they said it was gonna crash on friday too, why do you think it will crash today anon?

>>11407107
It didn't crash on Friday because Millennials bought the dip when indexes touched the 200ma. Their boomer parents and econ books told them it can't go lower than the 200ma.

>>11407107
asian markets were down, europe is flat, should be an interesting day

Lets hope these guys don't let a chopped up body of a US journalist dissolved in a barrel of acid stop them from remembering all the gud times

>>11407093
>mad
Try assuming people you disagree with have the strongest possible position rather than the weakest. It will serve you better in life.

>>11407107
I was saying that it should crash today because it was supposed to crash Friday but did not. Someone was buying the bottom when there was no technical or fundamental reason to. Support came out of nowhere when it should have been a hundred points lower. More evidence the game is rigged. Whether or not it crashes today depends on how rigged it is.

>>11403486
Kek

>>11407139
>>11407149
"/should/ have crashed based of my 'analysis.."
>or maybe you were just wrong?

>>11407149
The irony of your statements is not lost on me, it's quite humorous actually. Who exactly do you think the person behind this mask is? I can make a pretty good guess about who you are. Let me say: you're out of your league, chump. YOU are the one who's coming at the best, not me - I'm playing in a sandbox with you. You have not earned an arena beyond this, which is why you find the need to reaffirm yourself. Maybe try presenting some evidence instead of deflecting with every subsequent post. Now wash the taste of my dick out of your mouth.

>>11407149
>>11407139

>>11407066
>>11407078

>>11407171
No shit bud. That's just the game. You can't have all the information. But if you see something weird enough times you start to ask questions.

>>11407229
>But if you see something weird enough times you start to ask questions.
why do i come to 4chins everyday?

>>11407229
man you are a hardcore autist

point out what you think specifically is weird, this is a normal thing in the stock market it happens probably twice a year or more

>>11407066
The SEC. This place it a honey pot to try and catch Market manipulators and tax evaders. Get out while you can anon.

sears just filed for bankruptcy
gg

>>11407300
wait 3 days and then buy?

>>11407307
3 months. It will be back on the market at $34 like GM was.

>>11407066
The Stock Market General is broadcasted by the /smg/ Hedge Fund.

>>11407319
i want to buy it before it gets to 34 dollers tho

>>11407068
Why are they yellow?

>>11407229

>>11407333
Because Pepsi is piss.

>>11401396
1900 down to 1650 now
GAIN
V
SIRI
MU
ERF
TGTX
AQN
XXII

>>11407331
i bought GM at like 11 cents. went bankrupt. shares liquidated for pennies. comes back on the market at $34 and you don't have any of the "new" shares. Good luck.

>>11407066

>>11407345
im kinda a newfag, do you not get to keep the shares after the bankruptcy??

>>11407345
And you would have lost 0% of your F shares in the same time

>picking stocks

>>11407364
they are "deleted" from existence.

>>11407345
>>11407374
how do i do pic related tho

>>11407379
>>11407374
oh wait I see now, when they re-issue shares people still dont want them, causing them to be potentially undervalued

New
>>11407386
>>11407386
>>11407386
>>11407386

>>11407379
Is someone even going to buy back sears and make something out of it ? Or are they going to sell the warehouses and land and call it a day ?

>>11407379
That is talking about the "new" shares that come on to the market if the company stays operating after the bankruptcy. The ticker may be the same but the cusip id will be different.

>>11407229
An unbreakable wall of support coming out of nowhere. If someone was in it to make money, they would have played the technicals and bought at the next support or near it. Instead, they dive in to catch the falling knife. Google the president's working group on financial markets or plunge protection team

Super new dad here.
Does sqqq lag the vix?

>>11407403
thank anon :3 may u trade well

gunna be flat day

>>11407411
Based and redpilled.

Im having the same suspicion, these paywalls are some bureaucracy throw-money-into-the-fire shit. Technically they will run out of money eventually, but in the end they are just playing a game of psychology. Have you read the newspapers?