/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>12133154
The latter. Any talk of a recession is just talk. Not a single major statistic points towards a nearby recession. Growth is beginning to slow, but at the rate its going, a recession is at least a year if not 2 years away, and that's if the Federal Reserve's market sensitive chairman doesn't backtrack on rate hikes and if Tariff Man himself doesn't backdown from an unironic 25% on China tariff.

>>12133154
The Obama free money economy had to end sometime. Trump can't do much to stop it though the tarrifs aren't helping.

Your stocks are fine goy, don't worry about them!

>>12133154
we're due for a recession but its not going to be as bad as the 2008 one. It'll start outside of the US and its going to be mild. Maybe housing prices will drop. The Fed will probably get into QE to help us through it.

>>12133154
Trump bad man

>>12133154
It's simple really. When the economy was doing great, it was thanks to Obama. When the economy starts to turn to shit, it is thanks to Trump. Pretty simple NPC code desu.

>>12133215
>not going to be as bad as the 2008 one

It'll be much worse. Corporate debt has reached critical levels. If full-on recession hits the US, it will have domino effect on corporations, whose debt will worthless, leaving the holders of said debt (banks and pensions) broke, leaving the government as the only bailout of said broke entities. The corporate debt bubble is no different than the mortgage bubble. Just like how housing prices reached unsustainable heights alongside rabid lending and securitization, equity valuations have reached incredible heights alongside all-time high levels of leverage.

>>12133154
>Gaines
Doesn't he know how to spell?

>>12133226
riight

>>12133226
Imagine being so poisoned by partisan politics that you cannot analyze financial markets properly.

>Bishop
>Talbert
>Swan

>>12133226
You've been brainwashed anon. You're buying into party politics. Calling people who think differently or disagree with you NPCs is lazy thinking at best, self destructive at worst.

For your own good take control of your own mind. Stop letting others think for you.

If it's goes up it's obamas policies. If it goes down it's Trump's fault.

>>12133226

This is your mind on /pol/

>>12133285
What if I told you that it's both of their faults and that no one can actually stop this?

>>12133226
Not sure if troll or down syndrome.

hmmmmmmmmmm

>>12133226
you've outdone yourself this time /pol/

>>12133300
checked

>>12133300
ch-cheked

Too easy, bois

>>12133154
>Economy =/= stock market
That said there are some concerns floating in markets now. Debt, oil, etc

>>12133227
>Corporate debt has reached critical levels

Utter and complete bullshit and scaremongering. Debt is up because borrowing is cheap, and nobody is saying it's an immediate problem. Stop this weak sauce parroting of the doom and gloom clickbait from the MSM.

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>>12134145
Are you guys actually this retarded or is this /pol/ propaganda? We here at /biz/ don’t play partisan games. I don’t give a fuck about Democrat vs republican, I want to make MONEY. Trump is a fucking retard and yes the economy is going to shit unless he backs down which I doubt he’ll do because his ego is too precious. We are about to hit a major recession, at least the worst setback since 2008 and possibly worse though I don’t think the housing market will get hit as bad proportionally. It’ll mostly be stocks and USD. Anyone who thinks this is some sort of political mind game or blames the media or whatever absolutely brainlet tier shit is honestly blindfolded by whatever bullshit political forums and news they’re following in the moment. Open your fucking eyes and think for yourselves you god damn SHEEP.

>>12134399
t. moron

>>12134423
Let me add you to the list you fucking retard. There. Happy now?

A recession was bound to happen either way.

>>12134468
Agree, we are just now on the fast track. Wouldn’t be a bad thing if we had any plans to correct long term but like the last 3 presidents we had none of them are doing shit to actually help our economy and we are more and more fucked with each one. Here’s my prediction: major economic slow down in 2019, recession in 2020. Next election decides the future of the US: democratic or progressive candidate wins, we return to glory days, Trump wins second term, we head into 3rd world territory by the end of that term. Screencap this.

ok sirs here is the crypto brown pill.. there is a vishnu living in the blockchain. creg sanjay right is unironically satoj, bitcoin as electronic rupee was just the first step, the lalachi people start making more powerful compooters, wider poo streets, cheaper and more sacred cows. these things the vishnu need to survive. once entrenched fully, the vishnu would be able to slowly poo over literally everything.

>>12133154
People love to attribute economic cycles to government policies but the truth is a lot of it would have happened anyway

>>12133227
Don't forget how current stock prices are extremely dependent on buybacks that will stop entirely if a recession hits with the levels of corporate debt that we have today.

>>12134493
Will the banks get Trump to bail them out the way Bush bailed em out in 08?

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>>12134399
>t. hoplessly brainwashed absolute dumbfucks who program themselves daily with the latest mainstream media cuck-think

>>12133154
>Gaines

Republitards do this every time. Not even joking it's objective truth. They'll now spin it somehow, common ones are "b-b-but [previous democratic president] left the economy in a bad state" ignoring the fact the same thing happens comparing individual states or "b-b-but the economy works on a cycle" ignoring that it's possible for presidents to have 2 terms.

In conclusion, republican policies are objectively shit for the economy.

>>12133300
Checked.

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>>12133227
Should I buy silver or Eth?

>>12133169
>Not a single major statistic points towards a nearby recession.
Wrong

>>12133154
Obama 0% interest bubble bursting

I told you about this a year ago but no one wants to listen

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>>12134145
>Debt is up because borrowing is cheap
Not for long burger, when rates increase they'll default/liquidate/downsize

>>12134399
Literally the only reasonable person here

>>12133154

Let them hype up the economic collapse until the end of time, it just means crypto will do better as it will go up in these times.

I hope trump makes ww3 happen and all of /pol/ is drafted.

>>12134399

>I don’t give a fuck about Democrat vs republican

Yeah, importing ~75 million hostile foreigners or bombing hundreds of millions of people to please Israel isn't really an issue. They're all retards, that's the point of government. To herd all the retards in one place, to have them fuck everything up so that people like us can get rich during the inevitable collapse.

Taxation is theft, government's only purpose in life is to destroy.

>>12134493

>democratic or progressive candidate wins, we return to glory days

Consider moving to California, it's 100% democrat controlled at all times

>>12134929

Nothing to do with those 10 year state-issued obligation bonds of course. I mean what's a couple of percentage points on a dozen trillion debt to the economy anyway? You can just borrow more money against future taxation to pay the interest!

Demoniggers have been inflating the currency to provide welfare for niggers and illegal spics, republitards have been inflating the currency to fund Israel and war. Why do brainlets make this a partisan issue? Jew S A is run by soulless socialist shitskins and zionists with no other option for a half century. Faggot retard boomers and zoomers are the only retards that still think mainstream politics is a viable platform for saving this God forsaken future third world shitskin hellhole.

>>12136263

Amen brother, the incoming hyperinflation tsunami will wipe these retards off of the face of the earth soon. Preparation is key.

>>12136186

High level of government having progressives is a good move, while in lower levels like governor republicans shine. See: Massachusetts

>>12136186
Isn't California by far the most advanced/richest/most relevant state?

>>12134929
how am i supposed to read this chart?

>>12135401
ding ding ding. but as someone else said, debt has been cheap. it might not be that bad even though the number is the worst its ever been since the dot com crash. we keep seeing companies doing layoffs and restructurings in anticipation of rate hikes, trying to pull more profit to pay off their debt. so who knows. they're at least doing something unlike 2009.

>>12136198
are you implying that democrats systematically weaponized bonds against republicans?

>>12136277
and north carolina! and north dakota! oh wait.

>>12136324
yeah but it's just the cost of living in a stable growth economy. we in california get taxed to hell but we also don't rely on walmart or a factory as our largest employer like other cheaper states.

>>12133182
here's your (you) for not being a political arguing shithead but nailing it on the head.

>>12134399
Do you not understand what tariffs do or something? You want short term gains over long term stability and wealth? What are you a nigger?

>>12133288
>Former President WeWuz didn't say exactly this fucking same thing trying to take credit for the economy and record low unemployment levels under Trump.
>Stock takes a dip for a while like they always do and always have, suddenly it's Trump's fault and exclusively all his fault

And next month the market dips back up and suddenly Obama makes the world go round again.

I hope Trump dumps it. It's fucking bullshit being a young millennial and trying to buy into this overpriced market for the first time. Gonna load up my based RH savings account and wait patiently for the recession.

The orange man bad thing is going to be a fun one to reminisce about when shit hits the fan.

Btw, does any of you have the .gif of all the npcs saying orange man bad in an endless loop? I found it spectacular.

>>12137992
It would be fairly ironic if Trump ended up saving all youngfags seeing as they seem to hate him the most.

>>12135425

This really made me realize how much of a bad investment women truly are.