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>>12479013
>>12479009
>>12478996
All this does is make it seem like everything started becoming a bubble after the implementation of The Federal Reserve and their fractional reserve banking Ponzi scheme.

It looks like growth but is it just an illusion from funny money being pumped into the markets? 97% of USD doesn't even exist beyond being a number in cyberspace.

An example of this concept is the Venezuelan Stock Market. It's "booming" but the reality is that their economy is going to shit.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/5954nn/venezuelas-stock-market-is-booming-for-all-the-wrong-reasons

http://archive.vn/1XVUd

>>12479067
Numbers are cool, but you forgot about those new couple billion people on a planet, global trade, rapid computerisation and unification.

More and more goods are created = there is more money than it was decades before.

>>12479100
American fiat currency is created solely from debt, not from the production of goods. Debt that can never be repaid.

Most of American manufacturing has been moved out of the country and the only thing backing the value of the USD is the GDP. The GDP/Debt gap continues to get wider and wider until inevitable default.

https://youtu.be/5D9bFGokDa4
(Fractional reserve banking start at 4:00)

>>12479134
USA economy is based on global trade, not USA population. That chart would make sense only if you were to close the border for foreign companies.

>>12479167
The chart makes perfect sense. In fact, each time congress votes to raise the debt ceiling the country is at risk of having it's credit rating lowered or worse. We are reaching the tipping point.

The precedent is already there. Several credit rating agencies around the world have downgraded their credit ratings of the U.S. federal government, including Standard & Poor's (S&P) which reduced the country's rating from AAA (outstanding) to AA+ (excellent) on August 5, 2011.

Do you really think we are living under a sustainable system?

>>12479240
USA controls worlds economy so you guys are like an insider taking a loan to buy stocks before pump.
Also this debt is not even real.
"If you borrow me $1000 I have a problem If you borrow me $ 1000 000 then you have a problem".
Who is going to execute that debt?

>>12479273
The USA doesn't even control their own currency, let alone the world economy. The Federal Reserve is privately owned by the global banking cabal. The debt is real. The slavery system is real. It is beneficial to the US economy to be the world reserve currency, but it doesn't mean that it's infallible.

Trump couldn't even end the Fed if he wanted to. They would add an extra hole to his head just like they did JFK. How about Gaddafi?

"Money is a tool, like all others, except that it is imbued with "mystical" powers. The establishment of central banks is ALWAYS a necessary first step of subjugation of geographically congregated bloodlines. Note that Libya's first official act, before even the corpses turned stiff...was the establishment of a central bank. Those rebel forces were certainly well schooled by someone!

Think of the psycho-sexual representations of money in a typical society! Think of what energy and representations come from these artificial contrivances!

Money has come to represent stature, security, control, image, power, influence and almost every one of the seven deadly sins!

Laughing out loud!

Fiat is sexmoneymagic! It is the false god of culture! it is all-consuming and self-sustaining. It expands effortlessly like the elastic waistband of an obese american!

Now consider how much energy is expended in its pursuit and how much misery (negative energy) has come from this simple piece of paper!

Think of negative energy (suffering, misery, poverty...like your pregnant woman in a storm analogy!) and positive energy (happiness, money, wealth, power...new car!!!)

Do you understand a chemical battery storage system? It is comprised of two poles, negative and positive, and CURRENT runs between them. CURRENT is the methodology by which mechanical work is conducted. Conductor, current(cy)(sic). Negative and positive charge states, and the current which moves between them.

By the way, how are your genetics? What do you know of your bloodline? A LOT of interesting things have come out of Egypt! Lots of KNOWLEDGE LOST!! Or was it??

Laughing out loud!"

>>12479312
Your whole point looks like saying:
"NY/London apartments got extremely expensive in a very short time! It is a bubble and they will soon drop to almost nothing!"

No they won't there are just more people.

>>12479339
I would say that my point is that we are living under an unsustainable system where inflation persists indefinitely. This is not wholesome, it is the result of a vampiric banking system where a handful of wealthy elite skim the cream off of the top and the remaining 99.99999% continue to get poorer and poorer every single day.

Your analogy is that a commodity (housing) is increasing in value because of increase in demand (more people). I'm saying that the exact opposite is happening with USD fiat currency. Under the fractional reserve system a higher demand for dollars makes them LESS valuable. How the fuck is that possible? The banks literally pull the money out of thin air to infinity by legally loaning out money that they do not have.

The simple supply and demand explanation that you offer is true but it is exponentially compounded by the fractional reserve banking system.

>>12479339

Notice there was zero inflation before the Fed.

No one was leeching wealth from the American people.

>>12479339
Notice that no one really owns anything today, everyone is in debt for what they have and are making payments. We have borrowed tomorrow's wealth for so long that we didn't notice it being taken from underneath our feet.

Young people today are going into debt at an unprecedented rate just to maintain standard of living.

Did you notice there is a "don't pay your student loans" thread in the catalog? That's because it's a bubble. Degrees are worth nothing and everyone has tons of debt. When did this bubble start? Back when they decided to implement a federal student loan program (1965) where they give out the fake fiat currency to anyone who wants to go to college. These same borrowers are pressured throughout high school to go to college at any cost and are never taught proper finances, budgeting, or the reality of debt.

B-b-but STEM degrees have value right?

I know people with master's degrees who work at grocery stores stocking product.

>>12478752

>>12479412
>. I'm saying that the exact opposite is happening with USD fiat currency. Under the fractional reserve system a higher demand for dollars makes them LESS valuable.

Money is just a way tool it doesn't have to grow in value.
What you want is more people with more goods, not a currency that is valuable. Do you keep your money in matters and you expect it to go up in value?
They make it less and less valuable so people don't hoard cash and buy goods instead. That way economy can grow instead of stagnating.
If you don't like dollar loosing it's value then use some other currency, problem solved.

>>12479603
I think you don't have a full understanding of how badly posterity is being robbed of wealth.

This is far more than just me being concerned about my wealth depreciating in the present, it's about not just my country and the future of our children but the world as a whole. We are enslaved and we must break free.

You seem to have Stockholm syndrome because you are only concerned with "the come up" right now, and for some reason acting as an appologeticest for banking scum.

If everything was fine do you think we'd be seeing such a sudden rise in pic related?

zoom out

>>12479705
When are the gommunists finally gonna admit the elites they want to take the wealth from are the Jews?

I'm saying this for the last time and I'm not even fucking kidding. BUY THE DIP, THE RIDE NEVER ENDS. INFINITE MONEY

>>12479772
>$0.10 has been added to your account

>>12479759
The seeds of cultural Marxism were sown before communism. Jews = protected group = NPC.error

Wealth =/= dollars

People are more wealthy than they used to be.
Currencies are worth less per 1.
Currencies have greater market cap.
Yes, people in power steal billions upon billions.

What is your point?

>>12478752
I lolled, I'm not that superstitious...
Well... I might be, I've just been looking around at signs that the economy is about to implode too, there are a few signs...

70% crash ahead?
https://pro.banyanhill.com/p/CRASH/PSCEU602/?h=true
Warning: he's trying to sell a book and subscription. But in it he mentions an upcoming meeting on August 1st, which means the talk was written before that date, which means he did indeed at least predict the recent pummeling of certain tech darlings, Apple AAPL was down 33%, Facebook FB, 32%, Microsoft MSFT, 8.2%, Netflix NFLX, 16% Amazon AMZN, 17% and Google parent Alphabet GOOG, 14% from 52-week highs. I'm guessing there's at least a little more to come, but how much and how soon...

Inverted yield curve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_fszcxe7so
Recessions appear a year or two after inversion of the yield curve...
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-12-03/u-s-yield-curve-just-inverted-that-s-huge
...it has nearly inverted.

>>12480137
I know the difference between wealth and dollars. I have a stake in precious metals and a variety of other things.

My point is that people are not more wealthy than they used to be. In my reality tent cities are popping up where homeless live in droves. Guess what? Some of those homeless have college degrees. And these tent cities aren't from wildfires. They were manifesting long before then.

>>12478752
You're right , it rhymes.

>>12478752
OP I fixed it for you based on replies in this thread.

>>12478752
>>12480631
so you're telling me... it will either go up or down?

>>12478752
You're a retard.

>>12480631
Only those with cognitive dissonance and/or normalcy bias would believe that nonsense.

>>12480631
>>12480693
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-13/markets-take-the-lead-when-it-comes-to-factoring-in-recession

back to pol faggots

>>12480679
yeah, but either way its gonna be big
OOooOOo so exciting!!

>>12478752
or just watch the yield curve

>>12480270
Tent cities are popping because of no law enforcement. People, on average, are wealthiest in history. Even those poor people with no jobs will one day inherit fortunes.
There is no global bubble, we have more people with more money than ever before.
On top of that RECYCLING is making us unbelievably rich since we don't have to dig out and process ores each time we want to create something.
You are paranoid in a wrong way and are trying to preach it to us.

>>12480891
World's largest hedge fund manager sees dollar losing world reserve currency status.
https://youtu.be/cmvlvKLhwfM