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oldfag here, almost 30

let me drop some knowledge for you youngins, general career/life advice

you have until about 25 to get your shit together. no one ever told me this. i had zero guidance whatsoever. my parents didn't care what I did with my life, no degree, I could be a retail associate until the day I do for all they care, so long as it doesn't affect them.

after about 25 you start to feel the affects of being old. you have less energy. less motivation. after years of toiling with little to show for it, you start to see the futility in all of it.

i'm about 29 now, I have no desire to keep trying. i had my shot, I was fucked over, and now I just don't have the energy to dig myself out of this hole. most people my age are already married with homes or careers. it's pointless for me to try. all that's left now is a snowball effect on my joke of a life.

make it before 25 or suffer the same fate. you dont have as much time as you think you do.

>> No.12554393

>>12554366
way ahead of you gramps, I already realized this when the crypto bubble burst

>> No.12554407

>>12554366
I’m 29 and a half and this guy blows dicks

>> No.12554419

>>12554366
>listening to some 30 year old boomer on /biz/
If your life was so great, you wouldn't be here posting your gay ass advice and btw didn't even read

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>>12554366
i wish somebody told me too, who knows if it would have made a difference....

>> No.12554435

>>12554366
>after 25 you feel the effects of being old
This right here is important. Especially if you haven't been working out much, you're going to feel noticeably slower as you approach 30.

>> No.12554436

>>12554366
>imagine giving up on life before you're even 30
Stop projecting your lack of motivation onto everyone else. It's not because of your age, it's just you. Stop resigning yourself to mediocrity.

>> No.12554437

>>12554366
Do you know how many people are millionaires before 25 or even 30.

It might be like .1%. Quit being a fucking cuck and scam people on the internet, get /fit/ get /fa/ cut your fucking hair (do that dumb ass SS cut or whatever) go out to bars/coffee shop/downtown event/ club and just fucking talk to women. Casually lead them into joking around and say that you want to see them again, I.E get drinks. Do this and actually call them again after sex and do more things like this. You don't have to marry them, but have some friends who are probably DTF. Find some hobbies that are actually fun. Live near a mountain? start snowboarding? Start golfing. Just do something you bitch. I love you anon, but not in a gay way.

>> No.12554440

>>12554419
did you even read his post? fucking dumbass

>> No.12554462

I turned 28 last month and it sucks to have made it and then lost it all in the same year. I don't really want to do the work to make it again. I've moved onto plan b, hoping I get my multi million dollar inheritance this year. I got a whole plan of what if do to turn it into tens of millions.. And if that failed I'd just an hero because what's the fucking point am I right?

>> No.12554464

>>12554437
this is wrong. almost every pioneer or majorly successful person was well known within smaller communities even at a young age.

>> No.12554466

>>12554440
>didn't even read
>Did you even read?
you're both mentally retarded

>> No.12554477

>>12554366
Boomer oldfag here at 31, everything he says is true

>> No.12554484

Nah putting a time limit on it will just make me procrastinate.

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>>12554477
I don't really have an energy problem, I just can't get into being idealistic anymore since losing all my money was quite demoralizing.

Just stay fit, at least you can always have that unless you get fucked up somehow. That's about all I got left aside from my dog but she's 11 so I imagine she'll die before we get to travel the world together

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>>12554437
https://www.shnugi.com/networth-percentile-calculator/?min_age=18&max_age=30&networth=1000000#results

>> No.12554523

>>12554466
That was the joke. The only retard is you.

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>>12554505
>>12554477
>>12554366
>>12554431
We're not gonna make it bros.

>> No.12554548

If One does not Know Thyself by 25 everything else must be dropped to listen to/for 'the small, still voice'

. This post is a joke for INTP and INTJ, we were born exiles. Which is a strange blessing...
>Learn ye the mystery of all nature, and the beginning of all things, what it was. For the first man, whose race I bear in mine appearance (or, of the race of whom I bear the likeness), fell (was borne) head downwards, and showed forth a manner of birth such as was not heretofore: for it was dead, having no motion. He, then, being pulled down -who also cast his first state down upon the earth- established this whole disposition of all things, being hanged up an image of the creation (Gk. vocation) wherein he made the things of the right hand into left hand and the left hand into right hand, and changed about all the marks of their nature, so that he thought those things that were not fair to be fair, and those that were in truth evil, to be good. Concerning which the Lord saith in a mystery: Unless ye make the things of the right hand as those of the left, and those of the left as those of the right, and those that are above as those below, and those that are behind as those that are before, ye shall not have knowedge of the kingdom.

>> No.12554564

>>12554530
One already has, it is the end of (((The World)))

>> No.12554576

>>12554464
O.K tech CEOs and who else. Sports stars, that's like 200 out of 7.4 Billion. What I'm trying to say is that most people that Make it, make it after age 30. Of course you dumb faggots are too busy day dreaming about lambos from your shit coins to look around and see how fucked mostly every one is financially.

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>>12554513
18-30
He asked about 25 and under.

>> No.12554593

>>12554366
at least you didnt buy tron

>> No.12554632

>>12554548
I don't know what this has to do with being a loser who can see the world but fails to participate.

>> No.12554635

>>12554548

>tfw shift between intj when im single and intp when i'm in a temporary relationship

no matter what changes in my life, I always end up being exiled by self sabotage from any social group or family and I make sure it's torched beyond repair so I can go back to being recluse again, and eventually "happy"

>> No.12554689

Now for the brown pill boys, 29 I'm an absolute shit cunt, but content. What you realise is that rather than instant gratification, good things take time and instead of shooting for the stars you should make small changes that are achievable, you'll have positive reinforcement as you see small milestones. Time goes quickly as you get older so, the time to accomplish things is perceived shorter. If it takes a year that's no skin off my nose. Life is good bros, and I'm not settling. 140k link holder.

>> No.12554724

>>12554632

I'm a late bloomer too, many people are. You sit back and see the world for what it is and most of it is depressing and disgusting. You have to use that to your advantage. You know people are shit and 98% of successful people scammed or bullshit their way there. For us, life isn't about trying to fit in and follow a direct path to X/Y/Z. You have two options, either become autisticly good and elitist at something, or always be thinking of an angle to bamboozle your way into something - be it a job, business, something underhanded, whatever. Take risks, lie, cheat, but don't steal.

Try an assignment. Pick a random job that you VAGUELY know something about, go copy a resume from someone early career, start applying places. Read up on the topic several hours for 2-3 nights before the interview. Just see how far you can get, no fear, say what they want to hear. If you get fired, who cares? Just don't hurt anyone. If you want to try again, chances are either you'll make it further in the interview or will last another month or two before being fired that time. Fuck it, fuck them, no guilt no fear no shame.

>> No.12554727

>>12554632
The Lord God already chose you!

Be IN the world, NOT OF it. Just as the world hated Yahweh-with-us, you too should expect to be hated (for no reason, without cause).

The business of the world is the pain and suffering of Man. This is why 'wives' and azures are used as weapons against this generation, because the wicked generation preceeding saw fit to pre-scribe the station/conditions of their progeny. Such self-cannibalizing is what all idolatry is about.

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>>12554366
>not making 100k at 21 years old while he's fit enough to work a trade

>> No.12554779

>>12554407
And mentally 13, what an achievement.

>> No.12554798

>>12554366
>redddit spacing
>not even 30
>oldfag here
Sage goes where?
ALL
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FIELDS

>> No.12554829

i have literally zero sympathy for anybody that managed to live through 10 years of bitcoin and isn't a millionaire.

if you managed to completely ignore that, i think something is telling you that its time to give up.

>> No.12554851

>>12554366
what op doesn't realize is that this is just him continually coping as he's always been doing. you don't have until 25, or 30, or 12. you should have an ENTIRE LIFE consisting of struggling EVERYDAY. if that's not your attitude then you're doing life wrong.

>> No.12554861

>>12554829
there are people out there that lived through every bubble since the 1950s and never made money off any of them.

>> No.12554870

>>12554366
This anon isn't wrong. But he is a pussy.

>> No.12554881

>>12554829
I had money to put in until it was already too late.

>> No.12554887

thanks OP. Thanks for bringing back the suidical thoughts

>> No.12554906

>>12554366
Thanks for the motivational kick in the ass fren

I have problems but I'm making small steps everyday to being better and I believe I am on the path to greatness

>> No.12554953

>>12554798
>announcing sage

>> No.12554960

>>12554366
hey bro, i am very much like you. have done nothing. turned 30 last year.pointless is all, no energy for any. so whatever?

last year i started university to become a computer engineer. its hard. i can learn most online without school. but its good. soon 31, quite painful to realise how stupid ive become over the past ten years doing nothing.

but its all good now. soon i will have a job, well paid, no physical shit that makes you walking dead. i started meditate every day, just sit for an hour and let all go, do nothing. open eyes like a new person, all problems gone, everywhere opportunities.

so maybe i die tomorrow? i will live today. i dont care anymore what others think about me. i have stopped wanting and started enjoying. everyday, life is getting more and more beautiful. and to think, i used to also say to myself, its too late. turns out, the moment is forever fresh

hope you read this bro,
love from probably another side of the world

>> No.12555020

>>12554366
Anyone else remember when oldfag meant something different

>> No.12555046

>>12554366
“Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone”

I never understood that song until I got older and fuck me if it isn’t true

>> No.12555069

>>12554437
Dude I want to so bad but I’ve been a failure up until 29. How do you try again when it gets harder?

>> No.12555107

>>12554635
Sure is borderline in here...

>> No.12555287

>>12554366
>after about 25 you start to feel the affects of being old
This is true. If you've been slacking off mentally and physically them it's real tough t. 27 yr old.
It's super fucking depressing, especially when my younger friends call me out for acting like an old man.

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>>12554366

I completely and fully disagree. I'm turning 28 this year and just graduated law school. I'm more determined than ever to pass the Bar and become a lawyer. This year is going to be extremely important for me, maybe the most important year of my life. I have no lack of motivation and no lack of energy. I'm in the best shape of my life and in 2018 I had sex with more girls than I've ever had prior. I've set new career goals and have even physically moved locations and changed paths.

Never let "I should have done this" change what you still can accomplish. Also never let anyone on 4chan (or in life, for that matter) put you down or tell you what you can and can't do. Ever.

>> No.12555351

>>12555325
>28 about to graduate law school
you've been well on your way for years faggot, this doesn't apply to you

>> No.12555361

>>12555325
If you repeatedly fail the bar exam (assuming it’s a state worth Living in)... you’ll be 31 and working as a paralegal in the meantime.

>> No.12555368

>>12554366
>after about 25 you start to feel the affects of being old. you have less energy. less motivation. after years of toiling with little to show for it, you start to see the futility in all of it.
Not even true anon. This is only true if you don't take care of yourself.
If you're consistently exercising, taking nootropics and meditating, you actually get smarter and sharper with age.

>> No.12555486

I dunno, if you take care of yourself (exercise, eat halfway decent, regular health checkups) you'll have a pretty long life to look forward to.

Rest of it, yeah as you get older the energy level just drops. Early morning I'm full of life, pep whatever you call it. By the time I get home from work I don't feel like doing shit other than relaxing. I do stuff around the house during the weekend. When I was younger it was different; did everything during the week. Relaxed during the weekend. Career wise, unless you land in whatever line of work you like by age 30, then after that your fucked. Your doomed to stay in whatever field your in till you retire or die. Reason is that some lines of work prefer the 20 something's cause the work is hard and long/flex hrs is the norm. By 30 most people are married/ or got kids so they gotta have a set work life. Then you got the younger crowd just coming out of school desperate for work; most time they'll take any job offered to them. HR Types love that; no having bicker and dick around about salary and shit with prospective hires. HR types know the kids are in deep in debt.

>> No.12555494

>>12554366
go join a trade like plumbing and make 50 to 100k a year

>> No.12555773

>>12555494
go join a cult and kill yourself you fucking retard

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>>12554366
Checked.

That’s some real grit you got there. The road will be paved with skulls from the apathetic. You’re one of a billion others who give up if everything isn’t just handed to them. Greatness endures hardship.

You know nothing of greatness though, and you never will. The culling of you and your ilk is a drop in the bucket unfortunately when it comes to seperatimgbthe wheat from the chaff.

>> No.12555810

>>12555795

based

>> No.12556074

>>12554366
>let me drop some knowledge for you zoomers
>I’m a 30yo boomer and fucked everything up, life is pointless, might as well kill yourself
Wow thanks grandpa!

>> No.12556224

>>12554366
As a 22yo reading OP made me really feel like I gotta get on with it, stop making excuses and actually start my business ideas.

Then reading the thread I feel like maybe making $75k per year working 38 hours per week and playing 50 hours of videogames and anime isn't so bad.

>> No.12556246

>>12554437
/biz/ is surely the most down-to-earth board there is. God damn the feels hit you hard

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>>12554727
ALLAHU AKBAR

>> No.12556292 [DELETED] 

>>12554366

When i was 25 I was a college dropout working at a little caesars for 5.25 an hour and even got put in jail for driving without car insurance because I couldn't afford it. I was effectively homeless. I went back to school to a community college at 27, I didn't graduate until 2014 when I was 30, now I'm 35 and in 2018 for the first time in my life I made 100k, I got a late start but I got my shit together. I budget but still live comfortably, got 50k saved up so far, should be able to buy a nice 200-300k house in cash in the next 3 to 4 years, then with no debt or bills max out retirement. I'm going to make it bros. I think I'm on track to become a millionaire by retirement. Don't give up

>> No.12556395

Thank you grampa

I'm turning 22 in a few days and I'm heavily acknowledging the time I've already wasted, or makes me short of breath every night I really delve into thinking about it
Maybe you or other anons ITT can answer this question:
What do you mean by having your shit together by 25?
Does this mean having your intended job, being in the field you want, having enough actual money, having a good solid wifable gf, or what?

After now having moved out and realized how much time I've wasted, I'm finishing my associate's degree this semester, so I can get my intended degree by 25 (in CS)
Will this be enough?

>> No.12556489

>>12556395
picture your ideal life, or even your averagely ideal life. it probably doesn't include you taking care of your wife's son or marrying a single mom, or marrying some fat used up roastie. it probably doesn't involve you living in a 1 bedroom apartment until you're 40. it probably doesn't involve you making 50k a year living paycheck to paycheck well into your 30s.

you should honestly already be married or have a kid by 25. you should also have a good career by 25. there's kids graduating CS at 22.

I would say yes, you should have enough money to be able to afford a fully furnished place of your own, a decent car (don't get in debt), and money to have a long term gf, which includes eating out, going places, and occasional vacationing.

most quality women leave college with a long term BF. you're not graduating until 25, so you're already slightly behind but not terribly.

you might start losing your hair in the next few years, who knows.

by 25-27 you should have a good savings, and be looking into buying a home.

>> No.12556898

>>12554829
Give up? That’s what your advice to no. Millionaires is? Not to pay closer attention to emerging asset classes in the future. Almost like you want them to fail and kill themselves. But you have failed and you will kill yourself, larper.

Thanks now I’m leaving biz forever. Btw I have Asian 10/10 gf. Bye forever hand fucking queer.

>> No.12556909

>>12556489
> The average age for a CEO across industries is 58, with the oldest average CEO age 60 in financial services and the youngest 55 in the technology sector
Such wrong information in here

>> No.12556934

Do you guys think learning programming at home would work? I basically have no other options but to learn something at home, can't go to college and probably can't do a trade.

>> No.12556935

Check out my ID color

>> No.12556954

>>12554366

stop justifying your laziness. I got my shit together at 28, now 32, turning 33 soon. Both physically and financially I couldn't be in a better place. That desire to keep trying and improving is when you actually start setting meaningful plans in life and follow them.

>> No.12556955

32 here
don't listen to op, he's a babby
at 29 my life was a failure. literal kv neet stereotype: dropped out of highschool, never held a job, couldn't drive, homebound, poor health with severe medical issues, scared of anything and everything involving socialization to the point of having panic attacks and extreme avoidance
all it took to fix all of this was meeting the right girl. pushed me to get out and deal with my shit, and now everything is good
it's true your energy levels start to drop after 25. but every year, there's people who go from rags to riches. in 2018, millions of little 15 years old faggots lost their virginity, hundreds of thousands of them learnt to drive, dozens of thousands got a job, thousands of them experienced decent success, and a few dozens of them hit it big. are you really less capable than a teenager? it doesn't take years to build something, that's the convenient lie you're expected to believe so nobody feels bad for wasting their time on drinking, partying, menial shit day after day. get off your ass and start putting actual focus in whatever you want to do. determination and discipline are more likely to put you in the top1% than energy levels

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>>12554366
>i'm about 29 now, I have no desire to keep trying. i had my shot, I was fucked over, and now I just don't have the energy to dig myself out of this hole.
Clean up your room!

>> No.12556974

>>12556955
>all of this was meeting the right girl
fuck you

>> No.12556976

>>12556955
What job do you work now?

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>>12554435
This.
Eat right.
Exercise.
Save. Every. Penny. You. Can.

>> No.12557103

>>12554366
>less energy
>little motivation
Lol careful with weed too

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12558277

oldfag here, almost 25

let me drop some knowledge for you youngins, general career/life advice

you have until about 19 to get your shit together. no one ever told me this. i had zero guidance whatsoever. my parents didn't care what I did with my life, no degree, I could be a retail associate until the day I do for all they care, so long as it doesn't affect them.

after about 19 you start to feel the affects of being old. you have less energy. less motivation. after years of toiling with little to show for it, you start to see the futility in all of it.

i'm about 24 now, I have no desire to keep trying. i had my shot, I was fucked over, and now I just don't have the energy to dig myself out of this hole. most people my age are already married with homes or careers. it's pointless for me to try. all that's left now is a snowball effect on my joke of a life.

make it before 19 or suffer the same fate. you dont have as much time as you think you do.