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>be me the last 3 hours or so
>want to learn to code, makes a start
>read basics about bits and bytes
>"hmm, how does the CPU determine what to do?" "what is a bit on more fundamental levels?"
>Look up CPU architecture
>read about voltage levels
>"hmm what is electricity fundamentally?"
>research photons and primary charge carriers
>My brains starts doing all sorts of analogical gymnastics and i wind up thinking about how our brain/eyes works, if the universe is even real or how to create some exotic bio-technology that shapes reality itself arround us.
>meanwhile, i haven't learned shit and i still can't write even a single line of code.

Fucking hell lads, i've had this problem my entire life. I can't focus on one specific thing because, for some reason, my mind always wants to know deeper specific fundamentals while also trying to understand the whole, all at the same time. I'm so fucking tired of this.

How do you guys manage to focus on one thing? How are you able to quell your quriosity and stay on course? Should i visit a psychologist or what?

>> No.12645429

>>12645409
just keep going

you've spent too much time doing nothing and your brain hasn't connected any of your ideas together because you've been distracted

when you're done reassembling your brain you will probably be depressed because of the political situation

>> No.12645434

don't be a npc

>> No.12645440

>>12645409
Just don't be a fag, it's impossible to understand everything.

>> No.12645443

You must surrender.
You can’t get anywhere being the expert in everything.
You have to give in and accept that c++ works and it compiles and learn to do it right.
Stand on the backs of the giants bro.

>> No.12645449

Nobody in science knows all. Once you get over the ego wanting to be the best you will sharpen your blade on your niche.

No scientist knows all.

>> No.12645476

>>12645409
make a habit of asking yourself if the next arbitrary level of knowledge that you have come across is a necessary toolset for your specific goal.
if not, don't look into it.

>> No.12645487

>>12645409
yeah normally when I'm trying to learn python I google logic gates and how much L3 memory my processor has to get a better feel for the language

>> No.12645489

>>12645409

>being so illiterate that the only way he can philosophize is through science gymnastics
>hasn't even philosophize about science itself and how it's just mental models to understand shit we don't know jack about
>doesn't realize science just says the relationships about things but would never get to the meaning of the thing

>> No.12645490

>>12645429
any tips on reassembling the brain? I've had depersonalization for like 2 years. I'm slowly coming out of it and realizing that I know basically nothing about the world around me

>> No.12645495
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>tried to learn to code
>anytime I want to learn something, I need to understand it at the very basic level
>can't wrap my head around the fact that electrical connections and ones&zeros manage to derive all this complex images and software
>get frustrated and quit

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>le coding meme

god damn you people are retarded, you'll believe anything if it gets spammed enough

>> No.12645502 [DELETED] 

>>12645409
retard

>> No.12645509

>>12645409
>man im such a intellectual, i need to understand everything. My mind is so deep, i just cant handle it

No, you're just some retard that cant comprehend anything that isnt a ten minute youtube video or a meme.

Fuck off shitlord.

>> No.12645511

>>12645495

Nobody knows how C really works, it just does

>> No.12645517

>>12645495
shut up and get back to TurtleCoin

>> No.12645527

>>12645443
>>12645449
>>12645476

This is all good feedback OP. Being curious is good but you need to know when to stop digging and accept that a lot of work has been done to make things like C++ work the way they do. If you want to learn programming, then learn programming, not how computer chips are made and how code is interpreted etc.

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console.log('keep trying op');

>> No.12645543

>>12645409

The only good way to learn coding is to start coding yourself.

>> No.12645554

>>12645409
Easiest way to focus is to have a project to work on, instead of trying to follow crappy tutorials. Tutorials and books are the worst way to learn, unless they're examples that relate to your project.

>> No.12645561

>>12645409
just pop some adderall and finish a udemy course from beginning to end. when you finished it you feel accomplishment that you know more or less good at something specific, after that you wont care about the fundementals anymore

>> No.12645575

>>12645495
I don't know that shit and I'm a programmer

>> No.12645579

>>12645554

books and tutorials for an entire language are bad, but courses and books for specific themes are good, like learning how to handle data with python for a data analyst job

>> No.12645585

>>12645579
I always assume books will leave out portions of a code, leave out a semi-colon, outdated, teach bad methods, and so forth. I would never be able to trust a book on PHP for example, simply because I'd assume it's full with bugs, holes, and security issues.

>> No.12645595

>>12645585

It will still help you land the job, 95% of coders are shit anyway

>> No.12645637

>>12645595
I want to believe. I'm a NEET because job descriptions scare me and worried of not being able to meet requirements, yet secretly I believe majority of everyday code and design is subpar and I could do a better job. Then I look at top rated on Dribbble, Behance, Pico-8 projects, and complex Javascript tricks/effects, and I weep in a corner.

>> No.12645647

>>12645637

Just go, if you fuck at job you get a warning, then you can just drop it or whatever, you won't get fired like in the movies, we are in a sjw market ffs, you probably won't even get a warning for a long time and just get money

>> No.12645665

>>12645511
Anyone with a half decent education in comp sci knows how C statements translate to assembly and in turn translate to machine code.

>> No.12645672

>>12645647
we are in a sjw market ffs, you probably won't even get a warning for a long time and just get money
Sign me up, hah. Nah, seriously, good point. I considered being fired/rejected as a dent in my reputation where I wouldn't find a job again easily and I'd get "blacklisted". Kept putting off job search in hopes I'll be better and more knowledgeable "next year". I need to put together a portfolio.

>> No.12645679

>>12645409
You will eventually figure out that your random jumps between topics to 'learn' about them is just cope. You get a feels/ego boost from learning new information, but that's it. Listen here: the world will not pay you to have cursory understanding of random topics. It does not help you. In fact, the more you behave this way, the worse your life will be. You have to find the motivation to be different within yourself, or you will end up a pathetic 30 year old boomer with no prospects. I am speaking from experience, you don't want to be in that situation.

>> No.12645689

freecodecamp. your welcome

>> No.12645691

>>12645429
>just keep going
This. Keep learning disparate bits of information. Eventually, you will connect the dots and everything will make sense.

>> No.12645696

>Fucking hell lads, i've had this problem my entire life. I can't focus on one specific thing because, for some reason, my mind always wants to know deeper specific fundamentals while also trying to understand the whole, all at the same time. I'm so fucking tired of this.

I never thought I'd see another me.

>> No.12645719

>he hasn’t created a portfolio of complex, meaningful projects within 3 hours
Never gonna make it OP. Don’t waste any more time. You’re better off flipping burgers so go practice

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>>12645429
I'm allready depressed about it. I realise our civilization is dying and the world will turn into one giant brazillian shithole because of this globalist, technocratic zealotry.

>>12645440
>>12645449
I often wonder about all those mythological pre-flood writings refering to a time in which men grew to be 25.000 years old such in the Sumerian Kings List. Cultures from all across the world seemingly describe some sort of paleophysics that spawned the most unimaginable weaponry... destroying entire planets and controlling whole weather systems. Then came the "tower of babel" moment that not only caused the confusion of speech, but it also drastically lowered our longevity with each passing generation. These two things might have fractured our whole body of knowledge which led to the loss of such hyper-science. Maybe our science is just a way of catching up again to that point in the past.

>>12645679
You are entirely right. Brutal, but spot on. I am 34 years old and it feels like i have accumulated a shitload of knowledge that's worth exactly... zero. That's why i wanted to pick up a "hard" skill, but my mind keeps fucking with my will to do so.

I have a comfy, steady job... but it's all hot air. It's unfullfilling to say at least. I wasn't joking when asking if i should visit a psychologist.

Fuck, i think i'm just gonna make a doctors appointment and get some adderall.

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>>12645409

>> No.12645752

Why would you want to learn to code? Coding is honestly mind-numbing work. It isn't fun or enjoyable unless you're an autist

>> No.12645763

>>12645409
>>12645696
The curse of the inquisitive mind...borderline OCD?
I've often wondered how many other people have this besides me. Glad to see there is a few.
I just love to learn and do research about literally anything
Unfortunately such behavior outside of a few positions result in actual paying jobs

>> No.12645771

>>12645409
Learn to stand on the shoulders of those before you. It's how everything is done. In terms of civilization, you wouldn't need to understand anything about agriculture to progress. Hope my shit and weak analogy was worth your time.

>> No.12645774

Senior Software Engineer here. I don't understand shit about how the computer compiles the code. I imagine I write magic spells into a window and hit the GO button to cast it.

>> No.12645812

>>12645409
>>12645741
You have great instincts and I think you are already on the right track. As a software engineer most of my org's failures can be traced back to people making assumptions about how things work and refusing to actively disconfirm their own beliefs. If you are driven to think critically about changes (in the context of programming), you'll be leaps ahead of everyone who just treats computing as a black box. The most valuable people I know are able to stop and think "wait, why did that suddenly start working?" or otherwise audit and sanity check their own investigative processes.

To answer your question about focus, I find it helpful to set clear boundaries about what levels of specificity are "in scope" and "out of scope" as soon as I start tackling a specific problem. It is always OK, and expected, to draw fuzzy lines and vague arrows when building models. You just have to pick how deep you want to go. Pick what level you want to work on and gray out anything beneath that. If you're an enterprise java developer, you should pretend to not know that the compiler could no-op the code you just wrote. If you build physical circuits, you can safely care only that a bit is +5V or -5V.

>>12645741
>That's why i wanted to pick up a "hard" skill, but my mind keeps fucking with my will to do so.
It's up to you to pick how deep/hard you want to go.

>> No.12645822

>>12645741
Good luck with the drugs. In my experience, they don't help. They just get you hyped and stimulate the same 'Look at me! I'm doing shit!!!' response that random learning does for you.
The only thing that has helped me is to simplify everything in my life so there's less shit buzzing around in my head. Dunno what your situation is like but I suspect you've got a lot of extraneous bullshit to deal with that puts you off balance all the time.

>> No.12645824

>>12645752
You forget where you are

>> No.12645840

Sounds like adhd to me. Very typical for adhd brains to start with one mundane task, then boom, you find yourself deep in the rabbit hole 2 houres later reading about some weird unrelated shit. Except it's not totally unrelated, which your 30 browser tabs will prove. You have a great mind, but you ned to find a way to control it. "How to adhd" is a nice youtube channel

>> No.12645897

>>12645409

You're probably just not interested in coding lol.

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>>12645840
>MFW you just described me perfectly
Going to check out that channel
Any other tips or helpful info you can share?

>> No.12645973

>>12645409
Its simple. You google a list of topics you need to learn. Then you find the course work for free online or buy a textbook. Then go through each lesson in order or once you learn the basics whayever order you prefer.

>> No.12645983

>>12645741
Do you know how to pick a partner with good genetics? I have rh- blood but i don't want to birth another mule. How do i go about scanning my potential mates?

>> No.12646017

>>12645434
If he was an NPC he wouldn't have the problems he just described.

>> No.12646028

>>12645938
>Any other tips or helpful info you can share?
Just do some research on adhd. Realise and be honest to yourself about what your shortcomings are and find a way to work on them or around them. If you really have adhd you lack the ability to be motivated about a reward more than a few days in the future. You KNOW if you study for 2 hours now you'll get a better paying job in 3 years, but still you fail to get motivated. The reward is too far away for your brain. You only get motivated by instant gratification. Everyone has this to some degree, but with adhd it is much more pronounced and you cannot simply bite your teeth together. Even doing things you love and enjoy is hard to find motivation to do. I don't have much cope tips, as everything I try usually fail me after a few weeks. Medication works for me to some degree. Also check out Dr. Russell Barkely. He has some VERY interesting insight in adhd

>> No.12646033

How many years of training in coding will it take to be not necesarrily proficient but confident enough to competently perform under employment? From what I know as of know, C++ is the best entry language and allows for job oppurtunity so I plan to start there.

>> No.12646041

then study physics bro

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>>12645812
>>12645822

Thanks for the advice lads. Appreciate it. Will keep it all in mind.

>>12645840
Yep, that sounds formilliar. I recently took a few IQ and personality tests and it turns out i'm a 122 INTJ-T. I'm a huge introvert indeed, so i never considered adhd because i associated that with excessive activity. But everything after 3:55 on this video is recognizable as heck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcn1_qsYmg

Can you be both introvert and have adhd?

Thanks for that link bro. Seriously.

>> No.12646073

>>12646028
I should add that people with adhd usually excell in jobs where alot happens at the same time. Like military, paramedics, etc. If there is one thing adhd'ers are really good at, it is sifting through tons of information in a short time and stifting it together to get a good overall picture of the situation.

>> No.12646077

Don't overestimate OP. He's probably watched several animated youtube videos and now he assumes he knows some shit. This is what degenerative millennials do.

>> No.12646084

>>12646033
1-2 years of data structures, algorithms, full-stack fundamentals
1 year of learning OO and separation of concerns via immersion, internship or a big project

Then you can do anything with any language and learn as you go.

Don't worry about picking a language, (especially C++ where every company rolls it into their own rat's nest of frameworks; you'll be starting from scratch no matter how you try to prepare)

>> No.12646090

>>12646066
>i never considered adhd because i associated that with excessive activity
That's true for many, but for most that part goes away because we grow up and learn to supress it. The excessive activity is still there though, but mostly internally.

>Can you be both introvert and have adhd?
Yes, most definitly

>> No.12646102

>>12645409
Do CS101 on Udacity then after a while move to just doing algorithm puzzles.

>> No.12646117

>>12645409
decide on what you want to build in order to keep yourself focused. otherwise, yeah, all kinds of things will distract you in the name of learning. the best way to learn programming is by building shit and you cant know how every single thing works.

>> No.12646121

>>12645409
Neet here, getting up reeeeaal early tommorrow (9:30) to start a 2 week vegas road trip. Have fun wage cucks cya along the journey

>> No.12646128

>>12646121
... wrong thread whoops

>> No.12646132

>>12646121
I have no monies to be a neet. How can you afford your lifestyle?

>> No.12646133

>>12645409
kek this is my problem OP. it's called ADD.

>> No.12646137

>>12646128
kek

>> No.12646145

>wanted to learn to code
>can only think parallel, not serial
>don't like the way any language works
I got an arduino to change a RGB led's colors, that's it

>> No.12646171

>>12646084
appreciate the response, im in computer networking and always felt it carried a stigma in comparison to those in CS. IT is great and all but god forbid it becomes the rest of my life,

>> No.12646174

>>12646132
his parents

>> No.12646205

>>12645409
>if the universe is even real or how to create some exotic bio-technology that shapes reality itself arround us
>from cpu architecture

the moment I read bits and bytes i knew this was bullshit, knowing binary is not that important for coding. its just a UI for logic structures that computers interpret behind the scenes with capacitors and high and low voltage representing 0s and 1s. move on.

then learn about objects and functions. thats the right track. learning about the rest is just random distractions that have nothing to do with coding. your mind wants to know "deeper specific fundamentals" but you need to have context for those things so just learn what you actually want to rather than what youre getting distracted into.

>> No.12646222

>>12646205
wait til he learns about machine learning and starts realizing we are all self optimizing biological smart contracts living in a virtual reality that our brain creates interacting with others in a holographic tensegral simulationverse

>> No.12646235

>>12646145
>can only think parallel, not serial
I think you mean think serial, not parallel

>> No.12646248

>>12646028
>>12646073
>>12646090
Thank you for posting, sincerely.

>> No.12646254

>>12645409
The best way to understand the basics is to understand how the first things were built, in this case how the first computers were built. Sure you'll encounter talks of electricity and photons and so on, but at that point realize that a photon is not something we see, it's just a concept, something we imagine exists to make sense of what we do see. I'm sure some other civilization could come up with computers without the concept of photon but something else in its place. The fundamental mystery is why there are regularities in the universe, why we are able to predict the future at all, but at that point you can tell yourself that life couldn't have evolved if everything was pure chaos.

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>>12646248
No problem biz bro. Good luck on your path to tame your mind or aligning your life to your mind!

>> No.12646307

>>12646174
Correct.

>> No.12646347

>>12646205
It is of the utmost importance in my Mind. That's the reason why i spawned this thread in the first place. While i was reading about voltage and capacitors, i could not help but think of how the brain receives and translates signals to produce an image. It's stunning to consider.

>> No.12646358

>ee major
>they force me to learn coding
>because of this, i now literally know how computer works from bottom to top
also fuck assembly

>> No.12646367

>>12645409
don't learn biological stuff if you want to learn cs, they are completely different. you can learn about ml and ai but get basic programming in first. watch stanford and harvard cs lectures, they aren't hard they just require high iq

>> No.12646376

>>12646347
it's universal function approximation. programming is manually crossing a semantic gap. it's completely a different thing. study recursion and nonlinear function approximation if you want to learn how that shit works, nothing to do with electricity.

>> No.12646402

>>12646347
Ok if that's more important to you, keep learning. But you made this thread - so is focusing is more important? You have to decide. Your time and energy is not infinite.

>> No.12646457

>>12645409
Why, you lose your job at buzzfeed?

>> No.12646481

>>12646376
This. Church-Turing thesis. Electronics are used because they're easy to put together, but really you can make a computer out of all sorts of shit. Redstone on Minecraft, water in pipes, steam powered babage engine. Just as an astronomer studies the stars, not telescopes, computer scientists and programmers study algorithms & information not the hardware itself so getting bogged down in particle physics isn't helpful. That said, understanding the hardware can help a bit when it comes to optimisation, but OP shouldn't make it the focus.

>> No.12646500

>>12645409

Your goal is too abstract - “learn to code”
You need specific goals or a project to work on while you learn new skills, keeps you focused and gives you structure/deadlines

>> No.12646516

Take a book. Go through it from start to finish while not delving into side shit. Assume the book is presenting all that is needed to you.
This is the best way.

>> No.12646566

>>12646222
lmao fucking checked

>> No.12646612

>trying to learn everything in computer science as the basics
What the fuck are you doing? Pick a language, download a ide and then write the hello world program.

>> No.12646614

>>12645409
same problem. basically, this is what works, desu... modafinilmart.com

>> No.12646718

>>12645409

print("dont give up anon")

>> No.12646816

>>12645409
You're just a brainlet who can't piece information together meaningfully.

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>>12645409
>wants to learn to code
>starts reading about bits and bytes and a bunch of hardware shit that has barely anything to do with code

holy fuck dude no wonder you aren't learning to code, you're reading about how to be a computer???

>>12646500
this guy had best advice thus far, was what I was going to say.

step 1: think of a relatively simple idea you want to build. maybe a simple app to automate some aspect of your daily life. something you could use at work, anything. It has to be something you would actually use or want to build though, no stupid tutorial crap.

step 2: understand the technical basics of what that idea would look like in reality. Is it a web app? Javascript. Is it a script that pulls data off websites? Python. Etc...

step 3: learn the basics of the language/framework that makes the most sense for the idea you want to build. figure out how you would put those basic building blocks into something that resembles the functionality of your app.

step 4: bounce between tutorials on youtube till you've stitched something really simple together, progressively filling in the blanks till you know what you're doing.

A month ago I didn't know shit about Javascript, Node.js, web sockets, nothing. Now I am 70% finished building an alpha prototype for a literal MMO, with all the server/client architecture built out and working game mechanics. It is totally possible if you have an actual thing you want to build.

>> No.12646839

>>12645409
console.youreABetaMale()

>> No.12646841

try python, op. if you can't get to loops and if statements in 3 hours you're hipeless.

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>>12646817
pic of me exploring a world procedurally generated by an algorithm I coded, with a torch
"light source" I had to design and code to counter-act the night effect which I also coded to darken the visual game display. Again, a month ago I didn't know how to do any of this.

>> No.12646926

>>12645443
This friend

>> No.12646965

>>12646817
>step 2: understand the technical basics of what that idea would look like in reality. Is it a web app? Javascript. Is it a script that pulls data off websites? Python. Etc...
That's nonsense. There's only 2 languages. JS and C++. Use JS for everything high level. Use C++ for everything low level that JS would be too slow.

All the other languages have been made obsolete.

>> No.12646969

coding is for people that are good at it, people who are mediocre will never land a job.

>> No.12646980

>>12646965
Interesting take. Even Python? I find Python very useful for data analysis/manipulation and automating simple tasks like web-scraping. Would never dream of trying to do that in JS, not sure about C++ though...

>> No.12646991

>>12646980
>I find Python very useful for data analysis/manipulation and automating simple tasks like web-scraping. Would never dream of trying to do that in JS

Why? JS is more popular and has way better tools/librairies for web scraping and automation. Data analysis tooling is not yet as good as python, but will get there in a few years. JS is evolving and getting more adoption 100x faster than any other language.

>> No.12646998

>wah i'm so unique and have such a unique way of interacting with the world, please reassure me of how special I am as I fail at this basic task

>> No.12647002

>>12646965
Why? What about Java? The highest paying jobs always involve Java devs.

>> No.12647003

>>12646980
The JS community is massive, way bigger than any other language, and literally creating implementations of every Python and other languages librairies in pure JS. Check out any popular Python lib, there's most likely already a JS copy.

And the other way around is not true.

>> No.12647010

>>12645409
That's like learning how an engine works just to drive a car. It's unnecessary and it has nothing to do witth your intial goal.
Start simple, man. Write some code and get it to work. Small steps.
>>12645443
This.

>> No.12647016

>>12645531
awww i'm uploading this into the blockchain (SV)

>> No.12647020

>>12646991
I guess because in my mind, having been introduced to JS through frameworks like Meteor and Node, I see JS as a way to deliver HTML content via a client and server, whereas Python is simply an open-ended scripting tool that just lives and executes in my terminal... spitting out CSVs directly to my desktop without going through a DOM etc...

Now obviously I am new to this and there is a lot more to JS than that, I just see Python as a much simpler way to get simple tasks done.

>> No.12647025

>>12646965
>>12646991
Ignore this absolute faggot OP. All you need is Python and then C.

>> No.12647029

>>12647020
That's what most python retards think.

>> No.12647032

>>12645409
I would recommend you this anon

https://www.pluralsight.com/courses/what-is-programming

>> No.12647036

>>12647003
But yeah no I totally get what you mean about JS, it's super flexible and especially with Node there's an npm library for literally anything... I'm a little worried that I'm being spoiled because a shitload of the work I've been doing on my game thus far has actually just been integrating various libraries together and filling in the gaps with my own code... makes me think that the future will just be that, all possible configurations of software will exist as a library somewhere and "coders" will actually just be guys who hook up already existing code in innovative ways, lol...

>> No.12647038

>>12647025
kek. Python is inferior to JS in almost everyway, it will be in everyway in a few years time.

And C is utterly useless.

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>>12647029
well... not sure why you're being toxic about it lol... we're literally just talking about coding languages xD

pic related, I built that in JS not python

>> No.12647056

Look up The Hidden Code book. It's literally understanding computers at a very fundamental level.

>> No.12647073
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>le I wanna learn to code

you and everyone else on 4chan is learning to code. really, how much money do you think it's going to be worth in a few years?

fucking retards I swear

invest your time elsewhere into lesser known niches

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>>12647038
>C is utterly useless
Good luck competing with pajeets coding webapps

>> No.12647215

>>12645409
>How do you guys manage to focus on one thing?
By being male. You should probably embrace your holistic feminine side and go straight to traphood

>> No.12647270

>>12647038
what the fuck are you smoking

>> No.12647291

>>12645409
Become a philosopher duh

>> No.12647559

>>12645409
thats why you learn java or some other high level language with garbage collection that way you don't have to worry about how ram and cpus work.

>> No.12647590

>>12647215
>>How do you guys manage to focus on one thing?
>By being male. You should probably embrace your holistic feminine side and go straight to traphood
this

>> No.12647658

learn java so you can then learn solidity and code smart contracts

>> No.12647681

>>12645409
you are procrastinating because you dont want to learn how to code

>> No.12647746

OP don't listen this "hackerS 4chan faggot".
Reality is they just larp about all.
> coding is not for you
> brainlet
> muh i compile my shit
> soft eng

I've tried to code something with flask.

> install ubuntu
> install flask
> install spyder
> make your virtual env

try to run the basic hello word in flask.
Not fucking work!

> muh brainlet

Start doing exactly what a shitbook say.

Install fucking eclipse
Install pydev
Make psychopath inside eclipse
Make pymodule

It now work.
Why i can't fucking using spyder instead eclipse?

no one know!
Fuck flask, fuck python, fuck ubunbu, fuck java machine, fuck everything!

hundreds of muh soft devs have literally ruined every single concept in CS. Crap of unstable layers of shit piled only to mess with your stability existence.

> muh git, pajeet 130k years for coding, but i eat shit and i want only larping i understand CS

>> No.12647778

>>12645409
Just learn a language without going into whatever happens in the background. After you've mastered that language you can look what happens behind the scenes.

>> No.12648055

>>12647270
kek brainlet

>>12647191
real programs are made with C++, not C fucking brainlet, which is why the only 2 useful languages are JS and C++

>> No.12648194

>>12645409
>I can't focus on one specific thing
M o d a f i n i l
Enjoy 10 hours of razor focused mind.

>> No.12648233

>>12648194
only beta males need drugs to be focused

>> No.12648255

>>12645409
>im too smart to learn programming

>> No.12648271

>>12648233
>only beta males use a hammer instead of wailing on a nail with their hands

Have fun chimping out in a world of tools. Do you refuse blood transfusions, surgeries, and medicines too?

I completely agree that drugs for the purpose of escape and avoidance are weak. Not wanting to try something that unchains your mind or tears you out of your preconceived comfort zones and lay your mind bare before a project is pretty beta, though, anon.

>> No.12648277

Hmm

>> No.12648289

>>12645409
>read basics about bits and bytes
>"hmm, how does the CPU determine what to do?" "what is a bit on more fundamental levels?"
>Look up CPU architecture
>read about voltage levels

Stick with this, comp sci is way more interesting than programming.

>> No.12648321

>>12645409
>I can't focus on one specific thing
Buy modafinil
Enjoy your 10 hours of razor focused mind

>> No.12648349

>>12648233
>refusing to use harmless drug to obtain significant edge
You are a brainlet or have weirdo work-ethic system
You are not even gamma male

>> No.12648379

>>12648321
>modafinil
Can someone recommend a UK friendly site for this shite...
I am a shit liar, they want tot know why i want it..i had a friend that used to take it but he was narcoleptic...don't what to say.

>> No.12648402

>>12648379
Pharmacy Geoff.
Looks dodgy but I never had a problem with it. Anywhere that buys from India basically.

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>Le S0i Boy c0ding M3me
I don’t think there is a more soul sucking job than writing code for some shitty corporation or business that provides 0 value to humanity OP. Hey if you learn to enjoy and work on projects or in a company that makes a difference that’s cool but it’s going to be really hard to keep up with autists that do the shit for fun in their spare time. Tho I have heard companies trying to be “diverse” and hiring pajeets that write god awful code. As far as the world becoming a Brazilian favella, if the general population is too fucking stupid to wake up and realize the issues then we deserve it. If that’s the global consensus and plan for our planet and not enough people want to change it then there isn’t shit you can do so stop worrying as long as whites don’t end up like blacks in the 70’s it will basically make the competition laughable if everyone is double digit IQ mongrels.

>> No.12648503

>>12648055
>real programs are made with C++, not C fucking brainlet
this has to be bait

literally the reverse is true

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>>12646843
thanks for the idea kid

>> No.12648660

>>12645409
>How do you guys manage to focus on one thing?
By being stupid and not thinking too closely about how something supposedly works. Simply following lessons on how one does something and committing it to memory like an obedient little slave.

>> No.12649489

>>12646817
>A month ago I didn't know shit about Javascript, Node.js, web sockets, nothing. Now I am 70% finished building an alpha prototype for a literal MMO, with all the server/client architecture built out and working game mechanics. It is totally possible if you have an actual thing you want to build.
Right to the larp fatory fagot

>> No.12649513

>>12645409
One of the first things you need to learn about programming is not to reinvent the wheel.

Learn how to put tinker toys together to do what you want and then learn about how the pieces actually work.

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>>12648379
Darknet anon. Is 40% cheaper. I recommend modalert. Works better on me than provigil

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>>12645409
>try to learn code
>buy some udemy classes on sale for like 30 neet bucks
>40 hours of lectures and supplemental reading material
>it all makes sense
>learn coding is basically writing things correctly
>update resume with bullshit certificates
>got a few interviews and answered questions when asked
>they hired me
>get paid like 90K to update spreadsheets on microsoft server software from 2013
I got fired in October and just spent the next two months doing the classes. Now I uhh I guess I made it? wtf you guys? Should I get more classes they went on sale again.

>> No.12651231

>>12645495
its all just fancy rocks being blasted with electricity. it's easier to believe aliens supplied us with this technology than to imagine humans created it

>> No.12651235

>>12651128
Nice try fgt udemy

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>>12651235
Ok you got me I pirated all my learning materials. I will delete them when I am finished with my learning thanks to fair use.

>> No.12651627

>>12645409
lol 3 hours
you need to practice for at least 80 before you even start to understand what you're doing, assuming you have 0 experience
good luck OP. dont give up

>> No.12652775

i think that curiosity and desire for knowledge are good in general. for me, they only become disrupting when im not genuinely interested in the original subject. try picking a project you will really like and that will be practically useful to you and learn by working on it. the additional motivation might help.
consulting a psychologist could be good too. i'd surely try it sooner than any drugs. but the results are 100% _not_ guaranteed.

>> No.12653057

>>12645409
Sounds like you missed your calling as a mathematician or physicist. It's a psychiatrist you want, and most likely they'd diagnose you with Asperger's.

>> No.12653086

Only reason i learned coding was to be able to read through shitcoin githubs to dig for gold. Otherwise fuck that shit is as useless to learn as becoming a pro fidget spinner

>> No.12653641

>>12646843
Did you steal the aoe2 villager sprite?

>> No.12654425

its called discipline anon. if learning were easy we would all be geniuses

>> No.12654606

>>12645495
That's pretty basic desu, true and not true /1 and 0 is one of the most basic logical algorithms do people seriously not understand how a computer works they use it everyday, and im not even the slightest interested in IT

>> No.12655433

>>12645409
learn to "journalism"

>> No.12655466

>>12645490
crossword puzzles