/biz/ - Business & Finance

I just held through the pump, what's a good point to start accumulating again? 25¢?

>>13164435
.25 seems like the bottom of the trough. Give it time to recharge.

i think 30 cents is an important barrier. it's the point at wich accumulation of mass quanities becomes difficult for most. after that the coin must prove it has value. for bat i don't think that will be a problem though.

>>13164405
sold at 28c yesterday, i'm thinking we'll see 15c again.

>>13164563
not a chance.

>>13164563
easily 20 cents, not sure about 15

>>13164405
useless scam. 0 EOY

>>13164592
This isn't a link thread.

>>13164405
I sold it at all at 0.285 (bought at 0.10 and 0.20) will buy a stack again once it drops below 0.22

I don't really understand this coin, why will the price increase if people are getting it for free while browsing?

>>13164807
advertisers have to buy it to display ads on brave. also just watching ads doesn't pay much. it mainly rewards content creators. thats kind of the whole point.

>>13164839
So as long as no advertisers start to use Brave it will never take off? And why would they if it means they have to share their profits with the viewers?

>>13165303
thats not how advertising works. the viewer is the product. the advertisers make money selling products not ads. ads are something they have to buy to display to the end user (the product)

Anyone else exclusively browsing high end websites to 'fool' the algos into believing you're a high end client who deserves high end, well paid ads?
I cant be the only one browsing rolex, mercedes, hilton, island holidays.

>>13164807
It won’t.

>>13165348
probably wont have any effect because the brave browser doesn't have it's on user agent. it just uses the chromium user agent. so websites just think its chrome.

>>13165421
Sounds like you don't know how the ads are generated nor delivered.

is 125k enough to make it?

>>13165864
Yes, this is going to be the currency of the internet for decades.

> the places we'll go

>>13165864
Nigger 15 is enough to make it

>>13165499
sounds like your a cock sucking faggot retard.

>>13165896
In general BAT holders are wired differently than the rest of the crypto population. To understand what BAT is going to do you need to have a solid grasp on computer science, game theory, economics and finance. Plus most of us seem to have pretty good business acumen so we saw the use case immediately. Then add in the fact that Eich is running the show along with a lot of other og web engineers and that just adds fuel to the fire. So I don't really care what the rest of the market does because in two years BAT is going to be the only crypto that normals interact with. Not link, not ripple, not neo, not dash... and certainly not that piece of shit bitcoin.

BAT is the only token that's going to matter this decade.

>>13165962
i would also argue eth has a place as well. since bat runs on top of eth. and other tokens show promising use cases as well. eth itself might actually be suitable as a means of digital cash once pos lands and brings those fast tx speeds. your right about buttcorn though. that shit just lives rent free in boomers heads. it's got no use case no purpose to exist anymore.

>>13165946
>he knows

>>13166010
that's really not that big of a deal though. the devs can easily change that say "Brave browser" whenever they want. And they might once more people start using brave. the logic behind it now is probably because it would decrease anonymity due to their being not many brave users right now. it literally means nothing.

>>13165999
> checked and ETHpilled

Solid points, the Brave team really like's ETH too and I think they've been helping the ETH project with scaling unofficially. I honestly think we're going to see a huge marketing push on the scale of google/apple by Brave once the first round of bugs is fixed after V1 drops in a couple months, so you have until then to accumulate. Once that happens though its off to the races.

>muh browser plugin token
>BAT marines
Kek.

Reporting in. It’s encouraging that BAT is holding on to most of its value after these pumps. Seems like the official release of BAT Ads + some big advertisers getting involved, coupled with an increase in YouTubers/Twitch streamers could spell big things for BAT this year.

>>13166294
Way more promising that link, that's for fucking sure.

> TONIGHT
> STRAP ON BOIS
> PUCCI

>right product at the right time
>excellent team
>best normie onboarding strategy in all of crypto
>all the tech pieces are slowly coming together
>more partnership announcements are sure to come

Is being a BAT holder the comfiest play or is it?

$5 eoy 2020

>>13166405
>yes
If you have your ducks in a row this year could be the one that changes your life.

sold a bunch at 29, will probably sell more around 35, and then the rest i'm holding until further notice

30k bat
100k req
10k link

no more fiat to put in.

>>13166408
Nah senpai, $10 end of this year. Then the slow crawl to $1000 by 2024. After that then who knows. This shit will get one big spike when v1 comes out this summer because whale's can't control normie buy ins. Sure it will retrace but once it holds is value and utility for a year then the real climb starts. If you have enough to begin with you can live off the bags for the rest of your life. That's my plan at least. Its best you start treating BAT as a pseudo-index fund as far as stability and returns go.

>>13166421
Dump the req and link homie, that shit really isn't going anywhere. You fell for the meme coins unfortunately but there's still time to salvage your portfolio. Or don't, its your money.

BAT's a cool token because it allows the community to actually have an influence on the project.

For example you can:
1) Download and use Brave.
2) Use the UGP grants to give BAT to verified publishers
3) Become a verified publisher and fund your work through BAT
4) Download the Brave Dev Browser and earn BAT through BAT Ads
5) Interact with the team on social media, find bugs in the browser, make recommendations.
6) Sign up to create an advertising campaign with Brave Ads.

Lots of ways to influence/advance BAT and the project. I don't think any other cryptocurrency other than BTC and ETH has this level of basic user interaction. Exciting stuff.

>>13166458
thanks anon. I only believe in bat at this point. - btc is old tech and already inflated mcap. but have link because i cant miss the starship if the memes prove true. and req at 550 sats because.. well small possibility of muh reddit paypal 2.0 and seemed to be at a bottom

>>13166444
Checked. I was thinking the 2020 election and digital marketing would do it.

>>13166496
> checked the check

That will definitely help it. But wait until the zoomers are able to get ahold of it.

>>13164435
>>13164497
>>13164550
>>13164563
Any reason you guys are trading usd-bat rather than btc or eth? Volume related? Dumber traders there?

>>13166663
to be honest, its easy to trade and has bigger gains compared to bitcoin and eth.

>>13166444
Can anybody explain why you think this coin will ever go that high?

>>13166700
If youre trading frequently i would think its much easier to make gains with the btc-bat volume. Do you hold any btc or eth? When into crypto?

>>13166759
I don't think you understand how much money is spent of advertising...bat also upons up targeted ads better then before which =$$$$_

>>13166759
Because it solves the use case bitcoin was trying to. Plus no other company is putting this capability right in the browser, or could catch up to brave if they wanted too. Brave is the first mover here (0 to 1) so they'll be the market leader. For most people computers exist to connect them to the internet, and the internet to them is the browser. So if Brave is a browser that pays them for their time, especially with the recession coming, then that's a strong incentive already. And most here don't seem to understand that its not going to be boomers like me that's going to be first adopters, its going to be the zoomers.

So it has strong potential to go that high because there's only 1.5 billion tokens that will ever be issued, so say only 100 million people use BAT, that works out to 15 tokens per person. Add in wallet sink characteristics, ad campaign buy ins and general transactions and that's a recipe for strong volume and a stable price. I'm sure it will level off in value one day but that's at least a decade away until the ecosystem matures.

>>13166663
I don't trade BAT, only buy, so this is really the only thing I care about. I can't wait for the day that bitcoin finally dies so I never have to hear about sats again.

I've got a huge BAT bag but dont even use the browser.

I'm a hypocrite /biz/ness men

>>13166938
Its good dude. Give it a shot now as the muon version was shit.

>>13166444
>Then the slow crawl to $1000 by 2024
The shilling for this is reaching idex shitcoin levels of delusional.

>>13166988
> checked and wrong-pilled

Dude this isn't shilling, we're just shit posting on biz, no one actually give a fuck here. Don't use Brave and don't buy BAT. I could care less.

> muh bitcoin hit 20k for no reason but hype

Don't tell me its not possible.

>>13167042
>Don't tell me its not possible.
It's not possible. $1 at best. $5 in your wildest wet dreams.

>>13167052
>k

>>13166765
I'm not trading often though. I'm more short term trading. Day trading is the dumbest thing anyone could do. You can't predict the weather accurately on a day to day basis, but you can predict on a general basis during the different seasons.

>>13167222
> woke trips

>>13166938
>>13166959

yeah seriously at this point there's no reason not to switch over.

>>13164405
whats the point of having a separate shitcoin for this, why not just use Bitcoin?

>>13167042
>I could care less.
>14 posts by this ID
Okay retard.

>>13167240
what's the point of having a separate shitcoin called Bitcoin for this, why not just use BAT?

>>13167266
based

>>13167240
fuck off

https://www.ccn.com/firefox-founder-explains-why-brave-browser-couldnt-use-bitcoin-instead-of-bat

>>13167247
I'm here to chat and shitpost with my BAT bros, which you aren't. I don't care if you care that I don't care when I actually do care.

>>13167277
>>13167266

> checked and BATpilled

Ya'll see that possible cup and handle forming? We may move up another couple of cents today if everything turns out well.

>>13167301
I see a head and shoulders.
Reversal incoming.

>>13167240
what even is the point of using bitcoin? I can just venmo/paypal/CashApp/Cash to anyone for anything at any time.

Bitcoin is fucking useless.

>>13167340
jfc... Not even gonna waste a brainlet on you.

>>13167343

Are you retarded?

>>13167569
no you are ya faggot bitch.

>>13167222
>checked
>Day trading is the dumbest thing anyone could do. You can't predict the weather accurately on a day to day basis, but you can predict on a general basis during the different seasons.
Agreed. Im holding ETH so i was thinking of just trading back and forth between the two.

>>13167343
>>13167595

>>13167301
>>13167340
Yeah I'm a BAT bro, but I sold at 28c yesterday. Ill buy back in at 15-20c.

>>13168149
Same

>>13167292
That explanation for not using bitcoin doesn’t hold up. They say it’s because of fees and speed but BAT transactions aren’t even on the blockchain other than settlement. The obvious reason they use their own token is that it gave them a reason to do an ICO. The dishonesty about this subject damages their credibility.

>>13168183

Yeah man, you know more about BAT and why it's necessary than the man who created it and created the entire environment that it's used in, including the Brave browser.

Thanks for opening my eyes to their "dishonesty", anonymous poster from the business section of anime / racist website 4chan. Truly changed my opinion on this entire project. Fucking dumbass.

>>13168183
There is literally no defence. Its almost not worth saying, since anyone who can even grasp the issue would realise the problem immediately. Funding token.

>>13168183
no one cares about your old slow buttcorn from last decade.

>>13168183
Fuck outta here. How much buttcoin do you own? Be honest. Also I can tell you're not a computer scientist, because from my perspective bitcoin looks like white dog shit compared to what's out there now. Sorry you can't read code, maybe if you could you wouldn't have spent all your money on useless software. Seriously don't buy BAT, this project isn't for you.

>>13166405
Yes

>>13167340
we are in a bear market. Dump it all if you cant be patient and allow others to accumulate while you either sell or wait.

Being in BAT is the comfiest. Its performing very well in a crab market. Just imagine what it would do in a bull market.

>>13168259
>Funding token.
Exactly. If bitcoin was so terrible they could have used Ether or something like dai, which have the same speed and costs as bat. The reason they switched from btc to bat was to jump on the ico bandwagon, why not just admit it? Also it gave them a way to give out free tokens for customer acquisition (which incidentally is why the token is worthless long term).

>>13168974
I fucking give up. How can you argue with this amount of retardation. They can't say that you dipshit but of course it was used as a funding round. Are you really that dense?

>>13165303
brave already has major advertisers lined up once 1.0 releases. sites like washington post and the guardian are already using it.

>>13169039
Doesn't matter to these people. Or shiddit chomos but fuck em. Let them buy some of my bags at 1k.

This is actually a decent thread

Anyway I find holding BAT comfy AF. In since a dime.

>>13168988
Why can’t they admit that? Because it would be admitting the token is worthless other than for lining their pockets. The delusion that this thing has any long term value is hilarious.

>>13169082
>k

>>13169070
its amazing how people actually still want to shit on BAT. anyone who does any bit of reading on brave/bat would be able to understand how huge this is going to be
>>13169082
read the token economics paper on brave's site idiot.

>>13169082
>Worthless funding token
>Should use my bag instead

pick one faggot

Am literally struggling to determine if I should put another $5k of fiat into BAT at 27 cents or wait it out.

I bought 25,000 BAT coins when it was at 12 cents. So that's where I'm at now...

Maybe just $3k more...That'll get my current value up to $10k.

BAT could conceivably 100x from here, right? I wanna be a millionaire

>>13168974

I really think the ICO model for an in network token will be proven to work if BAT is successful.

Yes, BAT needed an ICO to fund the project. It would have been great if someone like Jack Dorsey who is funding LN funded BAT to create utility in the Bitcoin network. Nobody did. It would have been great if ETH founders/devs who got $72Million premine had funded a project like BAT which would have given more value to ETH itself. They didn't.

Air dropping free tokens hasn't shown that it makes the token useless. Ripple did it 6 years ago. Stellar did it. There are others. I don't know if BAT is going to be successful but if it starts gaining adoption within the next several years, today's price is basically free. Ripple has or claims to have 40 Billion circulating, with the token worth more than BAT and has no usage except for marketing. They have 100 Billion total supply. BAT has 1.5 Billion maximum supply and it has a much better use case for utility and things in development than Ripple, Stellar, IOTA, etc. If BAT starts gaining momentum, there are a lot more use cases than just ads. I myself am very skeptical it'll succeed but BAT probably has a higher chance of adoption that most of the vaporware or marketing hype shit that surrounds crypto including almost every top 25 coin.

>>13164405
yo

>>13169162
10x is reasonable by EOY.

>>13169121
The tokenomics rely on the ridiculous idea that advertisers are going to pay poor people to look at their ads. What will happen in reality is that a legion of undesirable peasants like yourself will show up to get their free bat gibs and no major brands will go near it with a ten foot pole.

>>13169300
Then why did WaPo verify.

>>13168827
Listen up zoomer. I was around for black wednesday, the Centennial Technologies '96 pump, the '01 airline selloff. I was setting shorts and putting options whilst you were wearing knee high socks in school.
Sell now, or regret it later.

>>13168974
lmao

It's always the same debunked argument with you salty faggots.

>why didn't they use my bags???

because no one wants your faggot coin/token. Bitcoin is still very much a laughingstock. You know people in thousands of dollars worth of literal debt, people that have already proven themselves incapable of handling their finances, wont touch the shit? It's a god damn joke to them.

"too risky/basically gambling/I'm not that desperate yet" are their response when it comes to BTC

who would ever want to attach their product to a thing that inspires trepidation in people?

Reporting in.

Probably gonna hover between 6500 and 7k sats for awhile. Was a link marine before this.

Realized the idea normies are going to start fomoing into decentralized oracles anytime soon is retarded even with muh mainnet.

>download browser at work
>hey bob what browser is that cool logo
>oh it's brave, it's like chrome but with adblocker built in
>cool
>also you can get $10 in free crypto when you download it
>Oh cool! I am gonna download it
>no problem larry
>hey larry what browser is that cool logo
>oh it's brave, it's like chrome but with adblocker built in
>cool
>also you can get $15 in free crypto when you download it
>Oh cool! I am gonna download it
>no problem tom
>hey tom what browser is that cool logo
>oh it's brave, it's like chrome but with adblocker built in
>cool
>also you can get $20 in free crypto when you download it
>Oh cool! I am gonna download it
>no problem chuck

Literally the best marketing strategy in all of crypto fuck your stupid vaporware.

>>13169599
>hey if you like my content please smash that BAT button to help support my channel
>Now that i have your attention send some BAT and tune into my next stream. We are doing a 24hr raid
>I could really use a pizza right now, any cute boys want to help out?

>>13169300
Poor people are poor for a reason; they are bad with their money. Of course advertisers want to target them and incentivize them to look at their ads, as a bonus BAT gives them even more money to misspend.

>>13166317
Imagine thinking BAT is more promising than LINK. BAT is taking on fucking Google and literally has zero chance of beating them on advertising or even taking 5% of what they do. Not a snowballs chance in hell. LINK has zero competition. LINK will be the fucking Google of moving data.

>>13164405
So overpriced for pretty much less than what Birdchain already has to offer. Overpriced trash like this and Link are going to disappear

>>13169719
That is not for you to say, its up for the people

>>13169722
>birdchain

the absolute state of biz retards

>>13169729
True. Wonder what that wick down on coinbase was.

>>13165317
>You are not a product.

>>13166052
>probably blah blah blah
Rationalization is entertaining

Twitch had a crazy breakout on BATgrowth these last few days. Wondering if the site is glitching (could be the site isnt perfect) or Brave referrals are catching on on the platform, and lots of streamers are suddenly verifying. This guy is the highest rated streamer who is verified and has a Brave referral in his underlay:
https://www.twitch.tv/bwana
Could he have triggered it?

>>13169851
thats just one streamer. wait until they all catch on

>>13169851
Have you noticed Braved hasn't released download stats in a while? I think when they do its going to be fucking insane what they report. Hopefully it will be soon.

>>13169300
>pay poor people to look at their ads.
Imagine not knowing the poor are a coveted demographic. By their nature they cannot save and must spend.

>>13169843
why are the biggest faggots always the stupidest?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BATProject/comments/a7e9v8/brave_still_uses_chromium_user_agent_string/ec2a3yz/

>The UA is still Chrome's, yes. From what I've heard, we will switch to our own UA string when our user base is deemed large enough. At current scale, it is to minimize fingerprinting vectors and prevent the targeting of Brave users.

>>13169797
Birdchain $375k Market cap

BAT $346M market cap

Valued 1000x more with much less of a product to show for it.

>The absolute state of crypto.
Birdchain has a better product and better clients than Brave.
>The absolute state of crypto where something could be so morbidly overpriced as BAT for such little in way of a product.

>>13170159
>The absolute state of biz where a project such as Birdchain can go unnoticed. Biz is officially dead.

>>13170159
>10k installs
>unknown devs
>dogshit on the blockchain, but its ok because blockchain

>>13166938
It's way better than it used to be. Especially if you're on mobile.

>>13170190
>Birdchain

lmao what a fucking stupid name for a scam built by faggots for faggots. It's a shittier version of DATA (DTA) which was shilled on here by pajeets last year. It too was "a BAT killer"

Look at where it's at now. Pajeets have ruined this board.

>>13170623
pearl/opacity was the "BAT killer" also

look at how that turned out

>>13170651
Oh i remember. Faggot ass Bruno stole all these dirty pajeets money.

Honestly, the only play these leeches have is to just try and get mentioned in BAT threads as they'd be virtually unknown/non-existent otherwise.