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The HealthCare spending crisis didn’t start until the mid 1960’s, around the same time Medicare and Medicaid were introduced, and also the same time the Government required doctors to go through all sorts of expensive licensing procedures beyond medical school.

Everyone obviously wants HealthCare, but there’s only so much to go around, and short supply leads to high prices. Normally what happens in a market place is that when prices are high entrepreneur’s try to profit by finding more affordable ways to provide for goods and services, the more people become involved in providing these services the less scarce they become, and prices drop so that overtime more and more people can afford them. This is what happened to televisions, computers, microwaves, refrigerators, cellphones, internet service providers, and even all of the medical technology which isn’t as heavily regulated or controlled government.

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>> No.14613763

>>14613754
Look at what happened with Medicare and Medicaid as an example. In 1965 these two single payer health insurance programs were instituted in the United States. These programs made unfortunate citizens less dependent on impartial private charities and more dependent on political institutions and pharmaceutical companies. On top of that these programs consistently required tax increases, and because they function more to satisfy the HealthCare industry than the worker, they continually lead to more wasteful and expensive ways of treating patients. As a result prices continually rise making it more difficult for the average family to afford health insurance. Not only that, but in 1965 the Government also took over the training of new doctors, and in 1997 they limited the number of new doctors they would train at 110,000 per year, and that number hasn’t changed since. Our Government also won’t let migrant doctors from developed western countries practice in the United States without undergoing this training, so as a result experienced doctors from other countries are less likely to practice medicine in the United States. This contributes to the scarcity of doctors, making HealthCare even more expensive.

Obamacare suffers from many of the same problems stated above, as it eliminated the pricing structure by seriously restricting competition because all providers have to provide the same kinds of plans at the same price, and because the price isn’t really determined by the market, providers can charge way more to taxpayers then they could have otherwise. It’s basically just a handout to the high insurance companies.

It doesn’t have to be this way though, if we get the Government out of HealthCare, more people will be able to get the care they need!

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What do you anons think?

>> No.14613941

bumping for visibility

>> No.14613985

>>14613754
You are correct but there are some additional factors as well. The US discovers and produces most new drugs for the rest of the world and the reason they're more expensive here is due to both ridiculous patent protections that prevent competition and the expensive regulatory process involved in getting drugs through the FDA.

>> No.14614000

kill obese people, disabled people, doctors, and kikes.

>> No.14614031

>>14613754
Remove regulations

>> No.14614065

SSC on cost disease: https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/09/considerations-on-cost-disease/

Also OP you should realize that fixing all these things is a bureaucratic impossibility. The US will collapse first.

>> No.14614086

>>14613754

>not buying antibiotics from the local Mexican market
>prescription FREE

besides emergency care you can heal self

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>>14613754
>>14613763
chainlink unironically is fixing healthcare atm

>Sec. 3. Informing Patients About Actual Prices. (a) Within 60 days of the date of this order, the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall propose a regulation, consistent with applicable law, to require hospitals to publicly post standard charge information, including charges and information based on negotiated rates and for common or shoppable items and services, in an easy-to-understand, consumer-friendly, and machine-readable format using consensus-based data standards that will meaningfully inform patients’ decision making and allow patients to compare prices across hospitals. The regulation should require the posting of standard charge information for services, supplies, or fees billed by the hospital or provided by employees of the hospital. The regulation should also require hospitals to regularly update the posted information and establish a monitoring mechanism for the Secretary to ensure compliance with the posting requirement, as needed.
>consensus-based data standards
>

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>>14614089
https://fedtechmagazine.com/article/2019/01/hhs-moves-ahead-blockchain-acquisition-modernization

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>>14614089
>>14614136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxOFQFx0Ug

>> No.14614178

>>14613754
Complete deregulation.

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>>14613763
>Let's just charge more taxes to wall street

>> No.14614430

>>14614086
You're a fucking moron if you're giving yourself unprescribed antibiotics. Enjoy your c diff.

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>>14613754
I’d like to post this image before this thread dies, and ask you anons how accurate it is.

>> No.14615159

>>14613754
>>14613763
The primary problem is that most people are stupid. The healthcare situation is a symptom.
Yes. A more free market for medical services will fix most of the problems.
But, you skipped over how dumb the average person is. And how half the people are even dumber than him. It's politically impossible to win a rational debate against politicians who want to keep the current "compassionate" system in place when the voters are incapable of forming independent conclusions.

>> No.14615230

stake your DNA with encrypgen

>> No.14615262

We have 10 times the drugs we had in the 60's. Entire classes of drugs exist now that didn't then.