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19 year old NEET here. How do I become rich? I have a high enough IQ that I'm way above average but not high enough to be actually smart/genius tier

What should I learn or do? I heard the best way to get rich is learn a skill and become extremely proficient and learn to sell a product instead of selling your time.

I was originally thinking about coding but I fear that it won't be worth it due to all the pajeets that'll work for pennies and a clean street to shit in

>> No.15012999

>High IQ
>asks 4chan for advice
>pick one

>> No.15013041

>>15012905
>I was originally thinking about coding
lol you're seriously retarded

>> No.15013124

>>15012999
trips of truth lmao....literally how many retards have made the exact same post as OP over the years....literally millions and none of them have made it

>> No.15013148

>>15012999
/thread

>> No.15013168
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>>15012905
>I have a high enough IQ
Can you people please think of the implications of saying this before you post? Please? For one second?

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>>15013124
>>15013148
Because it's easier for others to compile information for me and just tell me instead of me having to do it myself
>>15013168
I do have a high IQ though

>> No.15013203

>>15012905
>High IQ but not enough to be actually smart
That's just called being an average White NPC.

>> No.15013217

>>15012905
two words:
chain and link

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>>15013188
Take it from another leaf who went into programming. It wont be worth it in the end because of all the shitskins working for pennies in the field. Go into database management and administration. Learn advanced SQL and reporting, there are tons of jobs available that are looking for people proficient with databases and reports.

>>15013217
link is fucked. sub $2 soon.

>> No.15013259

>>15013188
digits reflecting your IQ... high 80s isnt high Pablo

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>>15012905
Seethe

>> No.15013268

>>15013203
By smart I mean above 145 IQ. Average white NPC IQ is around 100

>> No.15013300

>>15013259
You jelly of my digits, sad cunt?

>> No.15013326

>>15013268
Sure kid. And because you are so fucking brilliant you thought you go to 4chan for an easy way to get rich. God biz is filled with high iq retards.

>> No.15013345

>>15012905
Career is less important than what you do with the money you earn
Don't live above your means. Don't go into (((debt))). Save your money and invest it wisely.

>> No.15013361

>>15013300
these digits better reflect your IQ...00 i honestly dont think you even have a brain desu

>> No.15013394

>>15013188
>I do have a high IQ though
By what metric? How were you tested? Was there any oversight? How much has this revelation influenced your decision making? Do you believe you are better than others because of it? I was so fixed on your obsession with your INT stat that I glossed over this gem:

>I heard the best way to get rich is learn a skill and become extremely proficient and learn to sell a product instead of selling your time

Where did you hear that? Your time is always being sold to the reaper, day by day, minute by minute, no matter what you choose to do with it. I'm assuming "wageslaving" is not an option for you because you've become enlightened about how much more valuable your time is compared to the 100 IQ normies that you can't stand being around.

"I was thinking of maybe learning to code, possibly, but that means I'd have to compete with someone more capable than me that I look down on for arbitrary reasons, so I don't want to."

"I refuse to dedicate myself to anything worthwhile until someone does all my homework for me."

"I would rather have a bunch of people I do not know, nor will I ever know, tell me what to do to get rich quick as I sit on my ass and jack off about how smart I am."

You are maybe two rungs above some fat fucking retard who wastes his money on scratch-offs and drinks nothing but light beer.

This is the attitude of someone who will never, ever, EVER "make it."

>> No.15013840

>>15013394
I took an official IQ test administered by a psychologist not some 10 minute online quiz.

>> No.15013972

>>15013326
I admitted that I don't think I'm smart but I do have an above average IQ

>> No.15014056

I'm tested 160IQ

>> No.15014057

>>15012905
hi pepe!

>> No.15014120

>>15012905
if you UNIRONICALLY and safely want to get rich, buy stocks. If you REALLY want to get reach and know what the fuck you're doing, get into real estate. I must warn you that you gotta have a cold heart, get ready to evict entire families and fuck their lives just so you can earn a few bucks of revenue. If you want to go the coding route, make sure you actually know how to design shit instead of being another code monkey.

>> No.15014121

>>15013840
>>15013972
That's great. So what? Why aren't you addressing the rest of my post? Are you refusing to read it?

>> No.15014195

>>15013394
Simply btfo

>> No.15014208

Find something that you are good at, enjoy, and can make a business out of. Don't rush into school because you could waste years doing nothing just to get in debt.

>> No.15014241

>>15013394
B A S E D
A E
S S
E A
D E S A B

>> No.15014323

>>15014121
The entire point of boards like /biz/ is to discuss various topics and obtain information from other users. I never said I wasn't willing to do any sort of research by myself but it is preferable to have other anonymous users share what they have learned about accumulating wealth.

Plus, even reading up on how other anons earn money is technically research too.

I

>> No.15014599

>>15014056
cool bro

>> No.15014731
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>>15014323
I just spent my valuable time giving you what is arguably the best advice on how to become successful in this entire thread, and you STILL won't take it. You're finished.

>> No.15014889

>>15014731
your advice is shit

have sex

>> No.15014999

But for real though - hijacking OP's thread.

I'm more interested in learning some badass ways to make money. Like I've seen anons do affiliate marketing, youtube, dropshipping, etc. Has anything new happened recently that would be interesting to jump on board?

Honestly my thing is I need to find some sort of skill/end goal to dedicate my free time to. I keep playing video games and watching anime and fapping because I'm overwhelmed with where/what to start. I read too many things and become afraid of starting one things - sucking at it and wasting my time not putting it into another thing. Then I keep reading and it makes it worse.

>> No.15015467

>>15014889
Ok faggot, since you obviously care so much about what I have to say because you were still checking this thread hours later, allow me to dumb down the point of my posts for your 200 IQ brain. I wasn't questioning the legitimacy of your IQ test or telling you that asking for advice on /biz/ is retarded (both of these things aren't relevant to my greater point).

Lemme spell it out for you:
>Don't brag about your intelligence to strangers and expect them to be willing to help you
>Don't assume every venture you pursue will be successful because you have a high IQ, supposedly
>Don't look down on people who are more driven, committed, and talented than you for petty reasons and then justify why you're better than them afterwards
>Don't assume your time is worth more than anyone else's, or that your time is intrinsically tied to the money you make
>Don't act like you want to learn from someone and then ignore every piece of criticism you receive, justified or not
>Don't assume that getting a mixed bag of random opinions from people with mysterious credentials and questionable intelligence is better than learning organically on your own, or from a mentor you know personally
>Don't waste your time "doing research" on /biz/
>Don't brag about being intelligent when you have literally nothing to show for it

And finally,

>have sex

>>15014999
You are just as bad as OP, if not worse. You are clearly capable of articulating your thoughts and getting the ball rolling when it comes to dedicating yourself to something new, but you are a coward.

>> No.15015559

>>15015467
Why are you so upset. Everything I look into looks like it's a scam honestly. You go on youtube to learn about stuff and everyone wants you to signup for their online course for $5000!

Meaning that I have no clue if the free youtube video information was legit or not. And I'm not paying $5000 for a course from a random person online. But anything you lookup is flooded by thousands of youtubers with courses.

I just want to see an example of success. I work best working backwards from a solution. I also work better figuring it out as I go when I know where to go.

>> No.15015594

>>15015559
The other guy just got me heated. Sorry about that. Protip: If there's more money in online courses on how to make money doing something than actually pursuing it, the wealth's dried up and it's not worth your time

>I work best working backwards from a solution. I also work better figuring it out as I go when I know where to go

Yeah, everyone does. It's called hindsight. You don't have that going into a situation blind, especially with no clear goal in mind. How old are you?

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>>15012999
Oof! This is now a 4chan hate thread

>> No.15015656

>>15013188
>SPOON FEED ME!!! I CANT THINK FOR MYSELF!!!

>> No.15015666

>>15013188
yes, yes, you're clearly an autist.

>> No.15015705

>>15014999
Because of trips, let me give you words of wisdom my 10 more years on this Earth has on you anon.

Don't worry too much about failing. Thinking too much is bad for you, is the crutch of "being intelligent." We're all lost but finding our way. It's better to do something than nothing. You'll go further when you just try, than not try at all. Just do it.™

>> No.15015718

>>15015467

>Don't brag about your intelligence to strangers and expect them to be willing to help you
>Don't assume every venture you pursue will be successful because you have a high IQ, supposedly
>Don't look down on people who are more driven, committed, and talented than you for petty reasons and then justify why you're better than them afterwards
>Don't assume your time is worth more than anyone else's, or that your time is intrinsically tied to the money you make
>Don't act like you want to learn from someone and then ignore every piece of criticism you receive, justified or not
>Don't assume that getting a mixed bag of random opinions from people with mysterious credentials and questionable intelligence is better than learning organically on your own, or from a mentor you know personally
>Don't waste your time "doing research" on /biz/
>Don't brag about being intelligent when you have literally nothing to show for it

I literally do none of this. The only reason I mentioned my IQ was because your IQ limits your future prospects and what skills you're able to learn. A man with a sub-par IQ is less likely to succeed in fields requiring higher-level math skills and pattern recognition than a high IQ individual

>>15015594
>The other guy just got me heated.

Chill, bro.

>>15015656
>WAAAAAAAH ONLY I CAN BE SPOONFED ABOUT WHICH SHITCOINS TO BUY. ME NO LIKEY WHEN OTHER ANONS ASK QUESTIONS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Shut up, retard. Baby time is over.

>>15015666
I am. I can barely look a female in the eye and haven't spoken to one in over a year

>> No.15015762

>>15015594
I'm 25 and have done nothing but been a wagecuck and lose money with bitcoin requiring me to continue to wagecuck even more.

I have no wiggle room to "try something out" it's - work or me and my mom will be homeless. That's also the other driving factor behind wanting to learn how to make more money when I'm at home instead of a second job. I'm unconsciously incompetent on the subject of making money. I have no idea what in the world is even out there besides the shit shilled on youtube. I have no idea how to even find out.

>> No.15015778

>>15015718
>I literally do none of this. The only reason I mentioned my IQ was because your IQ limits your future prospects and what skills you're able to learn. A man with a sub-par IQ is less likely to succeed in fields requiring higher-level math skills and pattern recognition than a high IQ individual
I may not be successful, but I know at the very least if you use your "iq" as your crutch you're not going anywhere. IQ means jack shit all to success. Some of the dumbest people I know run blue collar companies and make half a million a year. Some of the dumbest people I've talked to are vice presidents and presidents of companies doing the same.

>> No.15015817

>>15012905
Get a job before you end on the streets, faggot.

>> No.15015867

>>15014999
>my thing is I need to find some sort of skill/end goal to dedicate my free time to
>>15015762
Anon, you know your problem but you're doing nothing to pull yourself out of your wagecuck position. Pick a skill to learn, any useful skill. How much you make can be directly seen as your usefulness to society. If you happen to dislike a skill you're building or feel inadequate, oh well, pick another and start over again. Quit being a pussy and get out there and solve your situation. Think less, do more.
>>15015778
>IQ means jack shit all to success
You're smart enough to realize the crutch of intelligence but fall into the same trap intelligent people fall into all the time. Quit thinking so much and just fight for it. You will lose and fail but if you're afraid of picking yourself up and pushing harder, you'll always be doomed to fail.

>> No.15015889

>>15015867
>implying I know what skill to work on
Some people make a website and sell clothes and shit. Others flip items.

I'm not sure how to develop money making skills. I could get better at fapping but it's not gonna make me money. Certain skills are better to learn than others specifically for making money.

>> No.15015953

>>15012905
buy bitcoin

>> No.15016111

>>15015889
>I could get better at fapping but it's not gonna make me money.
Never gonna make it with that attitude. Sure certain skills are better than others for making money but you ain't doing jack shit in developing any useful skill. Picking something is better than doing nothing. If that venture is not prospective, it's never too late to fold and find greener pastures. You're a scared little bitch too afraid to try to do anything but complain about your ineptitude and admire people on YouTube. Never gonna make it if you don't change your outlook

>> No.15016215

>>15016111
This advice is trash.

All you're basically saying is:
>Yeah man, just do the thing! You gotta stop not doing the thing! As long as the thing is not the wrong thing you'll be fine
This is why you ask for advice on examples of what kinds of things/skills/strange entrepreneurial things are there to learn? I do believe people like you don't have any legit advice to give on these subjects. When I have information to give, I give it out. No harm in doing so. It's not spoonfeeding if you say "hey, try this!" It's spoonfeeding if you say - hey try this by doing this this this and this. I don't understand why everything is treated like a big secret when information is only learned circumstantially.

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>>15012905
Alright champ, listen here. The keys to success are real simple.
All you gotta do is walk in to a firm handshake and go right up to the firm handshake and give him a firm handshake. He'll be so impressed with your firm handshake that he'll ask how soon you can firm handshake right then and there. Then you just gotta show up everyday and firm handshake real hard and before you know it you'll get a promotion and a nice big firm handshake.
Now go get em, tiger.

>> No.15016229

>>15012905
Coding is still worth it. I make a good salary with it

>> No.15016243

>>15016229
>salary
But despite learning that skill you still work for someone else, right? Why don't you work for yourself?

>> No.15016272

>>15016215
>This advice is trash
>Says the person who wants to be spoonfed information yet is too much of a pussy to try anything
You're going to be so rich one day thanks to your high iq, sitting on your couch playing video games and fapping to animu. Good luck anon.

>> No.15016280

>>15016272
>not knowing what id's are
Okey dokey champ

>> No.15016300

>>15016243
>I'm above working for someone
>I'm going to be my own boss!
>He doesn't realize the importance of building wealth to use as stepping stones towards the path of a greater life
As I said, you're never gonna make it. All you do is complain about everything and do jack shit but play video games, watch YouTube, and fap to animu

>> No.15016340

>>15016300
I'm finding it hard to take you seriously when you didn't even have a clue to check id's.

Secondly, yeah, wagecucking is shit. People have made money without a boss or a "base of wealth." The fact that you suggest working for someone else tells me you have no idea about making it.

And yes anon, I have a very high paying job for what it is. It is not going to make me wealthy. I'm never going to make 100k/mo doing this shit yet people are out there with no boss doing just that on their computers.

>> No.15016350

>>15013188
>Because it's easier for others to compile information for me and just tell me instead of me having to do it myself

Asking to be spoonfed how to get rich isn't the same thing as being smart enough glean information from others. For starters, you don't even know specifically what to look for. Get your head out of your ass and learn some humility. You don't know shit and aren't that smart.

But if you really want to get rich, stock up on BTC over this year and wait a couple years and cash out.

>> No.15016450

>I was originally thinking about coding but I fear that it won't be worth it due to all the pajeets that'll work for pennies and a clean street to shit in
no offense to indians but they are not creative. programming is the last frontier, you can pick up new tech through sheer will and pump out an idea in a week with 50$ investment. compare that to amazon fba, youll need 2k probably to test a wholesale product which could easily flop.
if you want to be truly rich, programming is a requirement

>> No.15016469

>>15016340
>I have a very high paying job
>>15015762
>I have no wiggle room
Such high paying job you have with your non-existent expendable income. Stay mad wagecuck.

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>>15016280
Forget my apology earlier, you're clearly worse than OP.

He didn't get the ID's mixed up, coward. He's calling you on the same shithead behavior that the OP has that started this whole circular discussion in the first place. For comparison:

(e0da1WLg)
>How do I become rich?
>the best way to get rich is learn a skill and become extremely proficient and learn to sell a product instead of selling your time (to someone else)
>it's easier for others to compile information for me and just tell me instead of me having to do it myself
>your advice is shit
>I am (an autist). I can barely look a female in the eye and haven't spoken to one in over a year


(J8242cKV)
>I'm more interested in learning some badass ways to make money
>Honestly my thing is I need to find some sort of skill/end goal to dedicate my free time to
>But despite learning that skill you still work for someone else, right? Why don't you work for yourself?
>Has anything new happened recently that would be interesting to jump on board? (SPOONFEED ME)
>This advice is trash.
>I'm unconsciously incompetent... I play too much vidya... I jack off too much :(

You get so much pleasure from rolling over instantly with the exception of getting belly rubs, and then you bite when you don't get what you want. Then you trash OP for using IQ as a crutch when you make up similar shit-ass excuses, like it's other peoples' fault for not telling you how to instantly turn your life around

It's like you get off on telling people you're a failure. You're fucking 25 dude. Your life is a tragedy.

>> No.15016895

>>15016350
Never said I was smart, bro. In the OP I even stated that I do not think I'm smart or have an IQ high enough to be considered smart, just above average for IQ.

>> No.15017503

>>15016542
No, he clearly got id's mixed up since I never claimed anything about my intelligence or iq but he was trying to use that against me for some reason.

Both of you are shits honestly.

>>15016542
>Then you trash OP for using IQ as a crutch when you make up similar shit-ass excuses, like it's other peoples' fault for not telling you how to instantly turn your life around
Never once asked how to turn my life around. Specifically requested ideas and places to look for to make money outside of a job that wasn't bullshit. I don't brag about my intelligence or reading comprehension, but it's pretty obviously you lack one or both.

I tried to be humble and ask for advice, but you have a superiority complex. Strange because you probably only act this way because mommy and daddy give you $20/week to their little "investor" and call you so smart all the time! I'm projecting because we're at the point that you're just showing you're a dumbass.

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>>15012905
>I was originally thinking about coding but I fear that it won't be worth it due to all the pajeets that'll work for pennies and a clean street to shit in

it's not like that. there is a very long tail of useless shitty coders and a very skinny stack of good ones.

but you can't just magically become a good coder. you have to love it and be obsessive. 10,000 hours of hard practice on your passion/obsession will make you rich in any technical field.

but you have to develop a passion. unfortunately, most people have their passion ground out of them during 12 years of retarded schooling. then 4 more years of soulcrushing college.

>> No.15018134

>>15013254
>Meanwhile in 2017
>Ethereum is fucked. Sub $2 soon.

>> No.15019275

>>15018134
not going to happen
If you want to buy ETH low basically you should just buy UND.

>> No.15019336

Assets not liabilities

Leave women for when you're 30

Commit mistakes

>> No.15019378

>>15012905
Just make money dummy

>> No.15019612

>>15013254
$2.15 is the new low retard

>> No.15020485

>>15015778
>IQ means jack shit all to success.

Objectively false. IQ is the single best general predictor for life outcomes. It predicts everything from income, academic achievement, health, lifespan, career success - you name it, it predicts it. Other individual indicators may predict specific outcomes better than IQ, but no other indicator predicts everything in a general way accurately like IQ does.

>>15015778
>Some of the dumbest people I know run blue collar companies and make half a million a year. Some of the dumbest people I've talked to are vice presidents and presidents of companies doing the same.

Your anecdotal bullshit doesn't trump statistical evidence. Society organizes itself in a way that natural hierarchies emerge based on intelligence, the smart filter to the top and the ignorant sink to the bottom.

>> No.15020492

>>15019612
23,000 sats is now a resistance. Good luck losing all your money