/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>15205714
Link me your app ill play it.

>>15205738
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.cordova.towerclimbonline

>>15205761
I’ll try to find a way to download it on my iphone. How lond did it take to build this, write the code, and what type of software did you use?

>>15205714
i just checked it out OP. looks cute i could see a userbase for it, try /r/gaming on reddit.

Join groups on social media or find networks of users on social media into indie games, mmo's, etc., and spend your time talking to them, getting people interested, getting a name for yourself and your game, etc.

>>15205836
oh, you can just play in the browser on iphone:

https://www.towerclimbonline.com/#/play

the game is entirely open source:

https://github.com/RDiGregorio/towerclimbonline

i was coding it off and on for about 2 years, mostly during weekends or some days after work when i'm not beat. i continue to update it every week or so with player suggestions.

it's coded in dart, using angular for the client side framework. postgres database.

I love these kinds of games.
I think the issue is it doesnt look interesting.

Do some borderline clickbait, pay some thot to play it, i dont care. Find stock footage

Sell your game like its fun to play, not like its a lonely dude spending his savings on ego stroking over 5 people.

>>15205761
>>15205874
it looks like shit
you stand no chance

>>15205761
Presentation is half the game.
Mario wouldn’t sell if it wasn’t presented as well

This looks like a bad game. Sorry you wasted your time and effort on it.

>>15205896
>>15205945
>Crabs in a barrel.jpeg
>>15205924
Genuine advice & criticism
>>15205874
Ill try it out and good luck with your game bud

>>15205714
with you're mindset, I doubt you'd have a lot of money to spend even if you wanted to. Am I wrong?

You put down your lives work for nothing? What are you doing on /biz/, you chump? Also the game looks ugly as sin

>>15205714
>Trump voter
Nope, hope your project crashes and burns

>>15205894
it is fun to play

>>15205867
"no self promotion/advertising", my reddit threads are always locked almost immediately. i did try to pay 2 different people in bitcoin to advertise on places like reddit and various social groups, and it didn't have any impact.

if there's an advertising company i could pay, i'd do that.

>>15206047
if? probably hundreds or thousands of them. Good luck
https://www.evolve-pr.com/

>>15206047
Use you money on a ui designer and have them improve the face of your game. With appstore games what sells are looks not mechanics. As good as they are you need people to get it first then the mechanics keep them there

>>15205714
Ignore all the faggots who've never made anything.
This game looks like it might attract a niche audience if they could understand how to play. Visually, it all looks the same so maybe add variety. Adding fog of war where everywhere you haven't been is black would make it more adventures.
And remember, spend 10 times the amount of time marketing that you did making the game. The hardest part is always convincing people that what you made is worth their time.

>>15206026
i have about $100K to throw at this, plus my salary is $140K from my wage slave job.

i'm willing to pay an artist a really good salary to make the game look good, so the suggestion is to do that before paying for advertising?

my thought was to focus on gameplay, and make the game as fun as theoretically possible, focusing on game design 100%. i didn't feel the graphics would matter much, but i guess i was wrong there? heavily influenced by roguelikes, which focus entirely on gameplay and have shit tilesets.

>>15205714
>>15206114
Don't waste your money, your game is shit. A flappy bird clone would be more successful

>>15205896
i would say 'shit' but definately not visualy appealing to most people. just adding textures to things would help alot

>>15206114
Dude I love Roguelikes but as a part of the fandom its only really except able if its a Roguelikes desu. Plus the Roguelikes niche is smaller and more dedicated. If you are appealing to mmo and rpg fans getting nice pixel art and a great ui are well worth your time. Shop around for someone who could do your character and tile art, and someone for ui. You ha e the mechanics then it's money on advertising. Don't try pay individuals to advertise it, use legitimate companies.

How can I talk in the game? It doesnt work

op i used to work for App Annie working with top brands and improving their ASO (app store optimization) strategies

what would you like to know?

>>15206201
there are different chat channels, public, group, etc. you're probably just talking in the wrong channel.

>>15206224
oh, the nanosecond i put my app in the app store i was bombarded with emails from various companies that sell fake downloads. i'd rather be honest.

what i'm going to do, i think, is work on the graphics.

>>15206250
Try to hire someone to do the art. If you can’t afford it get someone from china. Think about how much time it took you to learn programming, now realize it will take even longer to become a good artist. Its so much easier just to pay a chinese person a few dollars an hour to do it. Instead of wasting so much of your own time.

>>15206250
The art side takes alot of skill and tons of time, I'd recommend hiring someone. But if you like to give it a shot go ahead. And active sprites that move and Bob are way better than stationary ones but obviously more expensive

>>15206280
>>15206278
no, that's the plan, to hire someone. i'm actually a talented artist myself (i can do photo-realistic landscapes and portraits), and i know full well how much work the art would be. definitely not doing that myself.

>>15206114
Well I guess you have to decide what you actually want to achieve with your game. Mechanics are important but if you make your game very inaccessible for the average player then you will only have a very niche player base.
Take a look at the space gsg aurora for example, it has great mechanics but it will never have widespread success.

Hey OP, I know this isnt the board but could you detail your experience as a lone wolf programmer? Did it takes 5 years full-time to achieve this? I'm a soon-to-graduate programmer and I would love to achieve at least one project completely alone, but I am afraid it will be utter shit

>>15205761
looks like it was made with a rpg maker without the nostalgia feel of nes/snes
tighten up the graphics imo

>>15206436
2 years, off-and-on. majority of coding was done in 3 months, when i had some time off work

>>15206436
even if it's shit, you can throw it in your portfolio and land a 6 figure job pretty easily (even if you don't have a university degree; i got my $140k engineering job off this shit project and a community college degree). i'd suggest not going as bleeding edge as i did (dart), because you'll get cut (i need to upgrade to dart 2 which had a completely different type system, and upgrade my angular version, which is hell since everything's different in the newer versions). stick to typescript and probably react for the front end.

as much as people like to troll in this tread saying i've wasted my life, this project has been the best thing that ever happened to me, even if i have basically no one playing it, just from a career and experience perspective.

>>15205874
I'll give it a try, thanks for actually sharing it OP.

>>15206845
i do plan on hiring an artist and learning business practices (advertising, etc) and really shooting for the moon. even if you fail, the journey makes you stronger, and that strength can get you far in life.

>>15206250
lol it's a $500M+ company. i am not talking about fake downloads...

i provided analytics and consulting services to top brands and gaming companies like tencent, netease, king, gluu

you are right you need at least a few screenshots in a vertical landscape

you need to add keywords to your game and a description

there is a real science to this stuff. better to hire someone on fiverr to do most of these creative elements for you too as it will save you time as other anons said

>>15206845
> 140k$
Jesus christ, I don't know where you live but as someone living in France, this is a salary less than 1% of engineers ever achieve in life
What do you do for work now? You can't be a code monkey

>>15205761
>if I wanted to play an mmorpg with shitty I graphics, I would be playing it right now and not be on biz.

>>15206903
code monkey in boston, ma

Accept BRAP for in game upgrades and items.

>>15206845
> Stick to typescript and probably react for the front end.
Never used thoses. Did you start all by yourself? Did you needed/founded useful ressources online?
You can just answer "Yes", no need to spoonfeed me

Wagecucking today.

Ill give it a shot later tonight

>>15206114
What the fuck do you fags do for a living to make six figures a year? Fucking cheeseburger in SF must cost $30. I supervise 18 retards in road constructiok and don’t make half what you make wanna kms

Add waifus, OP. Not joking, you don't have to make them anime moeblobs, but add waifus.

>>15207342
And on the matter of art, it's better to pick an unique if somewhat uglier art-style than a pretty but generic one. Don't eve think about picking someone who did the tumblr drawing course, for example.

>>15206007
its crabs in a bucket you retard, but people do care a bit about aesthetics. Buy or create better assets you will attract a larger audience.

>>15205714
Tried game

Its shit

>>15207012
typescript is javascript but with static typing. it "compiles" to javascript by deleting the type annotations

react is a javascript framework used to build front end gui. you usually skin in with something like bootstrap (which is a css library) and get your icons from fontawesome or something

>>15207638
I will check all this stuff soon enough
Did you use any other tools?

>>15205714
back to /pol/ incel nobody wants to play your shitty game

>>15206114
OP even RuneScape with it's absolute dogshit graphics has more of a "charm" than your game I suggest that you add some character, flavor and thought into the graphics design and art. Make it at least look like a retro game from the early 2000s or so

>>15205714
advertise it to japs to play on pub transit