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Trumps edition

List of popular brokers:
https://pastebin.com/Dar8zS0k

List of basic stock market terminology for newfags:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Live Bloomberg stream:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free charting tools:
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.finscreener.com/

Stock screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener

Premarket Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

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>> No.15824058
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Is there any reason to eat a $75 fee to move my stocks from robinhood to Charles schwab?

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Markets remain captive to;

1. Trade talks with China and likelihood of Chinese intervention in Hong Kong.

2. Fed easing.

3. Earnings/macro data.

It didn't surprise me that the jobs data was as okay as it was. Unemployment is the last thing to tick up in a recession as shedding jobs usually happens en mass after confidence has been loss. The stock market is a forward indicator and has already computed that before CEOs have.

FUCK JANNIES

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>>15823863

Knowledge and a trading edge is power and money, and nobody with the ability to influence markets is going to give you good advice for free.

You might find low-tier or mid-tier guys who are good at technical analysis, but the best of them will admit that TA is only about POTENTIAL outcomes from rearwardly analyzing data. The things that move the markets up or down is new data becoming available to the markets.

See

>>15823662 (You)

As soon as you rely on other people to dictate how you should invest or feel about the markets, instead of being naturally curious and looking up data points for yourself, you become a financial golem.

Effortposting makes little sense if you do it at the very end of a thread!

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YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHHH

>> No.15824082
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>posting early when the thread is dead
eat a dick, OP

First applicable letter of your ID is your GET

>> No.15824086

>>15824058
>roll over
>shoulder nudges table leg
>table moves slightly
>die

>> No.15824096

>>15824082
rollando

>> No.15824101

>>15824069
>As soon as you rely on other people to dictate how you should invest or feel about the markets
This was more of a "that makes sense" thing, like if you're approaching retirement you don't want a lot of financial risk. Similarly, I'm at a time where being conservative could benefit me, despite the gambler mentality of "hitting it big could really help me!"

Honestly I also don't know what the fuck I'm doing, and my returns have proven that.

>> No.15824106

>>15824086
>die
so?

>> No.15824139
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>> No.15824207

>From the cradle bars
>Comes a beckoning voice
>It sends you spinning
>You have no choice

Self-concious slender eyebag goth-ish cutie is definitely my type. So is the absolute red flag right under her...

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>>15824101

If you don't know what the fuck you're doing, recognize that you can't pick stocks and trade the indexes.

That eliminates picking stock "winners". All you have to do is accumulate when the index is historically low and sell when the index is historically high, and have the balls to trade on x2 or x3 leverage.

The American indexes have only been higher at one point in history other than now: in the year 2000 during the dot com bubble.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case%E2%80%93Shiller_index

>> No.15824231

>>15824210
So was black monday just a meme?

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>>15824207
>tfw no Siouxsie gf who tells me to kiss them for her, she may be delayed
Movie night in 15 mins btw! Joaker was unable to be found, tonite's feature is The Evil Within (2017). Not to be confused with the mediocre video game, this is a hidden gem of psychological hoarror. A decade in the making by the meth-smoking heir of the Getty fortune and published after his untimely and mysterious death, you're gonna want to tune in for this one!

>> No.15824278

>>15824210
Shiller index is dumb and been successfully keeping newbs out of market rallys for like 100 years

>> No.15824280

>>15824096
you're gonna get cucked.

>>15824082
roll

>>15824210
Unless Donald isn't reelected or something really kicks off overseas, the front half of 2020 might be smooth,

>> No.15824293

>>15824236
I need to start getting back into music. I think I was happier when I listened to more music and less economic news. And all this "knowledge" hasn't produced one whit of investment returns.

I've seen a lot of mediocre horror movies, and this one looks like... just another mediocre horror movie.

I'm about to be kicked out of this coffee shop anyhow, and I should really finish my essay. Have fun all!

>>15824280
you think G is NTR?

>> No.15824294

>>15824082
Roll

>> No.15824314

>>15824293
nah nigga this movie slapppppssss, disregard awful poster and direct-to-video marketing.
Also D is clearly the NTR choice, G is for guro doujins

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Movie night movie night! Get in here!

>> No.15824383

>>15824231

Black Monday had a whole lot of technical issues with the exchanges that exacerbated things. Something to do with switching from analog to digital or new exchanges. I haven't really looked into it.

>>15824278

The Shiller Index hasn't been around for 100 years.

>> No.15824404

>>15824280

>Unless Donald isn't reelected or something really kicks off overseas, the front half of 2020 might be smooth

We don't know that. A Warren or Sanders Presidency hasn't been priced into the market yet.

We don't know the outcome of the US-China trade talks.

We don't know how macro data will show up.

We can generally assume the Fed will ease at this stage though, and if they don't: be prepared for a wild ride.

>> No.15824509

>>15824404
>Warren
Man fuck Warren. That woman reminds me of my boss at wagies. My boss is wildly incompetent and the very worst stereotypes about women in business personified.

>> No.15824626

>>15824404
It’s priced in. It’s just unlikely so it isn’t “fully” priced in

>> No.15824924

>>15824293
yeah, you and me both. B C G I and K will cuck you for sure.

>> No.15824943

>>15824509
>very worst stereotypes about women in business personified
This is a stereotype for a reason, Anon

>> No.15824946

>>15824943
i am aware

>> No.15824995

>>15824509
she won't be president, but if she did, imagine the buying opportunities that would follow. old man buffet would be right in going cash

>> No.15825123

>>15824995

>she won't be president

That's what they said about Trump. It's prudent to hedge your bets because the unlikely can happen.

>> No.15825569

>>15825123
Yeah... Buffett seems like a smart guy. He said months ago like he expects a trade deal to go through because it’s just in the interest of both parties, and yet he’s sitting on the sidelines in everyone but the big banks...

I’m getting the feeling I’m waaaaay overexposed here. Good thing I can now sell things without paying a fee, I’m going to drop some bags and take some profits on Monday.

Leaving my VTSAX alone, and letting my NTDOY and PEP ride for a while. Not sure about SPLV and MRK.

>> No.15825618

Warren is smart as fuck and will be the next president.

How do I know?
I call it the bigger fuck up theory.

Bush fucked up so bad a nigger was president for 8 years!

Nigger people thought was extreme fucked up left, so Trump became president.

Now Trump be fucking up big time and in the back of the people mind they are thinking glass ceiling, girl power, etc. Warren becomes president. After Warren is the interesting one!

>> No.15825646

>>15825618
I think you might have brain damage.

>> No.15825794

I fucking love it when The Economist gets satirical, bros. They tried to do an estimate of the costs of a border moat.

>Oct 5th 2019
>THE PRESIDENT frequently boasts that his Mexican border wall will be beautiful. “Border Wars: Inside Trump’s Assault on Immigration”, a new book by two journalists from the New York Times, suggests it will be menacing, too. The authors claim that Mr Trump asked his advisers about including a moat, infested with snakes or alligators. Aides have reportedly looked into the cost of such a deterrent. Mr Trump denies having said any of this. But to work out the expense to American taxpayers (or Mexican ones, since they are meant to be paying), The Economist totted up the structural and zoological requirements of the plan.

>The president may not catch enough water snakes to patrol the border. But he could call on alligator farms in Louisiana and Florida. In 2015 the Southern Regional Aquaculture Centre estimated that the industry rears 350,000 animals a year for leather and meat. That is more than enough gators to patrol a moat 1,000 miles (1,600km) long. (The border’s remaining 1,000 miles are already blocked by the waters of the Rio Grande.) A fat subsidy for Floridian reptile farmers to supply Customs and Border Protection (CBP) could also win votes in the swing state next year. Perhaps $150m a year would be enough to breed and feed 300,000 fully grown gators (they would need to be much bigger than the three-foot tiddlers killed for handbags).

>> No.15825799

>>15825794
>Building the moat would be tougher. Few firms make neo-medieval water features. Matt Boring of Texas Ponds, which builds “ecologically balanced ecosystem ponds” for clients in and around Austin, quotes $3m to dig a pond five feet (1.5m) deep and an acre in area. The moat would need constant topping up to counter the effects of evaporation in the Sonoran Desert. If Mr Trump wanted his moat to be 60 feet (20 metres) wide, he would need to dig and line about 8,000 acres’ worth of trench. That would cost about $24bn.

>Of course, the Sierra Madre’s peaks are unsuited to flat canals, and Arizona’s heat might slowly broil the crocs. But the president could surely order a series of pumps to keep the system flowing. After hiring CBP officers to feed the gators, and building a second fence to keep them in, perhaps he could deliver the project for less than $30bn.

>That might seem reasonable for a man who has already accrued about $10bn of public money to build his wall. However, the new book also claims that Mr Trump wants to adorn the barrier with electrified, flesh-piercing spikes, and asked aides whether officers can shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. Treating that number of gunshot wounds and settling the lawsuits would cost even more. It is almost as if the president is more interested in showing how ferocious he is on immigration than in providing efficient border security.■

>This article appeared in the United States section of the print edition under the headline "Build the swamp"

>> No.15825801

>>15825569
>VTSAX
What would you recommend for non-US investors? Something similar to that fund.

>> No.15825834

>>15825801
I'm definitely not qualified to answer that question. I suspect it depends on the country, and what restrictions you have. You might be better off asking in a forum for investors in your country.

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>>15825799
>Build the swamp
Hey that's funny, I like that
But the whole point of building a new ecosystem is the idea of "if you build it, they will come". You shouldn't be paying for any crocs outside of the first dozen or so; if you want the thing to be sustainable, then it has to be a situation where all the food and stuff for the predators ahs to be there naturally.
A better solution would be to dig a moat (Elon Musk's could get some cash into the Boring Company ...) and then ahve genetically modified predators that can survive with less food and in higher temps
IMO a larger version of the Komodo dragon would be cool, as long as it is on the Mexican side of the fence (or between two fences)

also
>I slept through movie night
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa

>> No.15825912

>>15824082
give me a thick girl please

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>>15825799
The only problem I see in all of this is the choice of crocodiles, wouldn't animals like hippos or maybe lions be more cost effective?
>>15825845
we waited 4 u for like 15 minutes silly

>> No.15826053

>>15824082
Market crash imminent. 10/7 will be infamous. Roll.

>> No.15826096

>>15826018
I set an alarm but my phone fucked it up
basically a whole week lost, my entire cycle is off now

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Is Peter Schiff right? Is this chart basically Bitcoin at 20K.

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>>15826264
>Is Peter Schiff right?
about some things, yes.
about other things, no.

>Is this chart basically Bitcoin at 20K.
No. bitcoin is a currency, the S&P 500 is an index that tracks the values of equities.

>> No.15826305

>>15826053
Thought it was October 11th?

>> No.15826395

>>15826305
it's october 6th, you can see the date on the top of each post

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>ara ara~
>you don't invest in silly video games, do you anon?

>> No.15826488

>>15826395
Ha.

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>>15826460

>> No.15826544

>>15826495
love it

they might have made her too hot in the adaptation

>> No.15826809

>FED doing yet another overnight repo amounting in billions
>will do it until November
Yeah, right, it's fishy as fuck. The only thing it could mean is banks are suspicious and are not lending money to each other. The banks know some shit is already hitting the fan right now.

>> No.15826898

>>15824082
Based on this image, I can conclude:
girls slightly rotated >> girls head-on
Feel free to use this algorithm in real life.

>> No.15826965

>>15826809
$ demand is still high as usa is the only country left with yield.

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How long do you spend reading to make good picks?
>answer the call anon

>> No.15827082

>>15824210
Buffett indicator shows market is near peak valuation. No way would I go long at this time.

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>>15826989
Don't read. Feel. Understand.
I only read manga

>>15826544
I've never watched the adaptation
I only read manga

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>>15826809
>banks are suspicious and are not lending money to each other
that's a fresh take, I've never heard that, is that something you've heard someone else saying or something you came up with?

The banks doing the repo operation (on the consuming end of the fedbucks) should have been able to up their cash reserves by now, it's already been almost a month. I don't think other banks would be averse to lending to them; the collateral they're giving the fed is T-bills, so why wouldn't other banks accept those in an inter-bank loan?

There has to be something else going on, but I'm not seeing the whole picture. There is some level where we can't actually see the day-to-day balance sheets of the banks involved in the repo operation. I'm not sure if they have to show the fed to get the repobucks (prove that they actually have a shortfall) or not.

you know, a few weeks ago when this thing started everyone was in a panic. My opinion stated on /smg/ at the time was "it's fine, it's a normal operation, we should only be concerned if it continues".
And now that the operations are continuing, I think some people are becoming complacent and unconcerned when they see the headlines. Unfortunately we don't know how concerned we should be (from any outside perspective), so I'm going to probably be on the cautious side and look to pack up some positions. If these banks want cash badly enough to be paying however many basis points above the base rate overnight, maybe I should be holding some cash as well.

>> No.15827425

>>15826287
>shitcoin
>currency

>> No.15827447

>>15824995
>she won't be president,
You're in for a surprise.

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>>15827447

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>>15826989

>> No.15827574

>>15827486
Lightning does not strike twice.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated

The traditional source of GOP votes (suburbanites) turned against the GOP which is why Dems swept the House in 2018.

>> No.15827605

>>15827574
>the person that the media hate because they're funded to hate him won even though they predicted a loss throughout 2016
People don't buy this crap you know.

>> No.15827625

>>15827605
Whatever you say. Just remember, Trump barely won last time, and that was as an outsider against a widely hated opponent with a lot of dirt/baggage. It's a whole new ballgame running as the incumbent with a record to defend.

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How wrong am i?

If there is to be a crash it will be from corporations being unable to service debt. The only way this will happen is through significantly rising interest rates or bigger debt total, whichever comes first.
However as long as rates stay low, interest will always be paid because there will always be another sucker willing to take up a leveraged position and pay interest and nothing will happen...

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>>15828009
there are other possible things that can cause a stock market crash besides a corporate debt crisis. so you are "wrong" that corporate debt defaults would necessarily cause the next hypothetical market crash.
you are correct that current monetary/financial environment is one that doesn't put too much stress on corporate debtors.

>> No.15828084

Chinese basketball body halts cooperation with Houston Rockets over offending tweet
Tencent Entertainment will stop streaming or reporting any races participated by Houston Rockets
Various other Chinese companies have also declared ending their cooperation with Houston Rockets.

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>>15828084
I'm watching the livestreams rn.
I just posted this on another board, but to quote myself:

~
The point of these HK protests isn't really about how HK is governed. There are two main goals:
1. Test out anti-protestor tactics and technology. This includes real-life training situations for police. They are also testing all kinds of new surveillance (video face recognition) and internet tracking technologies (figure out what tools the HK protestors use to communicate and evade surveillance, so that China has countermeasures ready.
2. Lower mainland/international resistance to Beijing by reduced attention. Basically, this HK thing going on becomes a sort of "background news" in the headlines. The celebrities in the west all say "Go HK!" and then nothing happens... so when future revolutionary actions occur that are more threatening to Beijing, the outside press and politicians are less likely to take it seriously.

Again understand that this whole HK situation is just a dry run for any possible future Chinese revolutionary action. The point is to sharpen the spear of the central state, and to make sure that they have the proper internet tools to prevent or crush and bad action by their citizens.
~

>> No.15828550

I need Uber to hit $40 again.

>> No.15828659

Whats with these retsrde warren shills
It’s impossible. Not trump impossible, but humans evolving on the moon impossible
Business hate her and publicly said they go R Before they go Warren(and bernie but mostly warren, they really hate her)
She is pocahauntus, she faked being a fucking indian and she is a dem...
She can’t get a crowd worth talking about, no one in gen pop like her.
If you put her infront of don at a debate it would look like nigger beating a baby

>> No.15828677

>>15828539
Just like flooding EU was a test before having the immigrants invade US. Thankfully trump stopped this...
It would have worked. Rs are lazy fucks now

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>>15828659
you have to acknowledge that she could win.
I don't think anyone here is saying that they want her to win, but it is possible. Anyone saying that they know what will happen is wrong. A year (in the current political climate) is a long time, so many things can happen.

Trump has to have a good ride through the congressional heat that's on him right now. Another thing to consider is that his campaign last time was like a blitzkrieg, it was shocking and fresh. He was guns blazing and people were impressed. Well now he's been guns blazing for 4 years. His base surely likes it, but it's unknown how independent voters will like him this time around.
I think if Warren 'cleans up' some of her far-left positions, she can still run a campaign that is critical of certain business/finance practices but rational enough to capture some independents. She can't go too much into the "women and minorities and free healthcare for illegals" zeitgeist that slowed down the Democratic debates so much. She has to get moderate and appeal to independents to have a shot at winning.

If she never says "I'm a woman" to prove a point or claims that she will have a better/different point of view because she's a woman, that will look strong to independents. She can't come across as bitchy, which can be tough. She should be watching videos of Tulsi at the debates to get the idea of the best possible stage presence to use as a woman. Not overbearing, but not weak. It honestly is super hard for a woman to get the right balance to beat a man on televised debates. You have to be confident and gentle.
Basically what I'm saying is that Tulsi is actually an amazing candidate and I think that the democrats could have had a really good shot at locking down independents by going with her and/or Michael Bennet.

>> No.15828778

one single thread on this board is about stocks?!
the rest only shitcoin & co?

>> No.15828798

>>15828778
Welcome to /biz/
This single thread is better than most stock forums and the stocks part of reddit though

>> No.15828829

>>15828778
these threads are probably >10% of the board by posts, especially on weekdays and when one of our hometown memestocks is making big moves.

we just have lower visibility on the catalog because all the crypto/off-topic threads get fewer posts, but people are constantly making those threads

>> No.15828865

>>15828778
Make sure you buy Verizon and Chainlink.

>> No.15829172

>>15828539
All internet communication tool or their overseas equivalent have already been banned by mainland China while their mainland China counterpart have been in the hand of Beijing for multiple years already, and as for anti protestors strategy China already have plenty of chance to test it at Xinjiang and Tibet.

>> No.15829203

>>15828659
>It’s impossible. Not trump impossible, but humans evolving on the moon impossible

Sure.
>Business hate her and publicly said they go R Before they go Warren(and bernie but mostly warren, they really hate her)

Her fundraising is excellent and having wall street hate you is an asset not a liability. Plus businesses can't vote.

>She is pocahauntus, she faked being a fucking indian and she is a dem...

No one cares. See how Virginia Republicans tried to make the Dem governors blackface scandal into a thing; after the dust settled no one cared.

>She can’t get a crowd worth talking about, no one in gen pop like her.

She consistently pulls bigger crowds than Biden. And it's still early, wait for a few more to drop out.

>If you put her infront of don at a debate it would look like nigger beating a baby

Better hope the debates are during the day so trump doesn't sundown on the stage like last time.

>> No.15829240

>>15828550

>He bought Uber at ipo

Looool

>> No.15829260

Why does fidelity's site look like it hasn't been updated since 2008

>> No.15829336

I don't think it's realistically possible for the Britain to singlehandedly declare the Sino-British Joint Declaration as have been violated, suspend and interrupt Chinese sovereignty on Hong Kong and reinstate British authority?

>> No.15829356

>>15828798
YES and remember put all your money in LCI its a good deal

>> No.15829376

>>15829356
It's indeed a good deal

>> No.15829417

>>15825799
Now this is just silly. Mexicans aren't black. They can swim.

>> No.15829471

>>15826989
Lately i've pulled back from heavy fundamental analysis and am mostly trading based on TA. Market is too twitchy lately for fundamentals on the shorter time frames i trade. It amounts to asking, is this a solid company or a dumpster fire? Buy signal on solid company = buy. Buy signal on dumpster fire = nuh uh.

>> No.15829491

>>15829260
its pretty based desu
imagine fixing things that aren't broken

>> No.15829505

>>15829336
>writes a statement
>ends with question mark
Really gets the noggin joggin

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>>15829336
nah

1. they wouldn't
2. if they did, China would just say "STFU lol"
3. they have no power projection to enforce such a thing
4. America wouldn't back them up
no one in the West (citizens or politicians) is interested in a real confrontation with China over HK sovereignty.

>>15829172
Xinjang and Tibet are different. It isn't real urban unrest with Han Chinese like HK is (right?).
The motivations and demographics of the HK protestors is different and will be more closely aligned with any future (hypothetical) civic unrest that China experiences. And even if internet sites and apps are banned, clever students can find a way around it. China is basically having a shakedown cruise of their current surveillance technology in the HK protests to allow further development for the future. To make sure they have an even more complete control over their citizens.

It's just my opinion. But when I think it over, it is the most likely reason (by far) why the HK protests were started and have continued the way they are.
There are added bonuses of shaking out any CIA/international influence agents that are in HK now, instead of later.

>> No.15829670

>>15824011
This is exactly the type of info a normie like me has been trying to find. Thank you

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>>15829505
It was a comment on pic related

>> No.15829795

4chan needs a cryptocoin board this shi has nothing to do with business

>> No.15829804

>>15829795
>and finance

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>>15829203
yeah... it's definitely time to hedge my bets. Medicare for all seems sooooooooo unlikely, but there's a real chance if there's a strong backlash against Trump.

Does everyone on 4chan really think there's no chance Trump did anything wrong? That Trump AND Giuliani kept their hands clean and covered their tracks?

Fuck I really DO NOT want a Warren presidency. But I may have to consider the possibilities no matter how unlikely.

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>>15824082
rollin

>> No.15830210

>futures
WEW

what's going on lads?

>> No.15830242

>>15830191
fuck yeah thic goth gf

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>>15826305
The crash is whenever I say it is until I'm finally right.

>> No.15830263

>>15830210
What are you talking about, it's nothing

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>>15830191
>First applicable letter of your ID is your GET
Anon, I

>>15830252
I listened to an episode of this guy's podcast, and it seems toooooooo cultish for me. He runs his courses out of churches? Does he get tax benefits for some religious loopholes?

>> No.15830414

>>15829795
this board was originally made to take the crypto threads off of /g/
it had the side effect of taking some economy/monetary policy threads from /pol/, for better or for worse.
/biz/ is weird. it is what it is.
but importantly, it is a good place for these general threads to hide... we get some new people in, but not too many.

>>15830210
futures are not open until 1800 Eastern Time

>>15830157
>Does everyone on 4chan really think there's no chance Trump did anything wrong? That Trump AND Giuliani kept their hands clean and covered their tracks?
nah
even among most Trump supporters, people might acknowledge that at some point he has done something in a legal or ethical gray area... they just prefer him to the other politicians, who they see as evil
I think Warren has a serious challenge ahead of her ot get the Presidency.
But it is certainly possible in the following scenario:
=>something bad enough comes up in this "Trump investigation part II" that is the current impeachment proceedings.
=> Biden and Bernie continue to self-destruct
=> the DNC doesn't step in and appoint anyone else (HRC, or other)
I would vote for Tulsi or Pence over Trump or Warren. Just my opinion. I don't really vote though.

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>>15828778
>>15828798
>>15829376
>>15829356
LCI to $60

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>>15830414
>I would vote for Tulsi or Pence over Trump or Warren
Sure but because Tulsi isn't seen as a real candidate, we haven't seen how she does when taking heavy fire, getting pressed on her positions, or if there's a lot of skeletons in her closet.

Pence is also a bit of a mystery. I guess I prefer him to trump, but on the other hand, he's kind of a total weirdo.

I wonder if there are good dem candidates who just don't want to run this time around. If I thought I had a shot, I might want to wait another 4 years, even if it ends up being 8. Let the Trump disaster play out, and likely dodge a recession.

>> No.15830482

>>15830395
Every church I've been to uses his material for their finance classes. It's just the standard appeal to boomers. I respect the fact his info appeals to the masses and helps those that don't care for finance, but I dislike that people tout it as efficient or superior. It's especially bad when people then take "DEBT BAD" as the lesson, only because they got burned with debt. The real lesson is that unproductive debt is bad, but that's too complex.

I enjoy listening to his podcast because of the absolute rejects that call in with 500k CC debt and ask how to solve the problem. My dad's firm works with his company though, and finds that people get misled since Dave promises 12% yearly in index funds.

>> No.15830511

>>15830482
>Dave promises 12% yearly in index funds.
JEEZus fuck... if I believed that I'd go get student loans immediately and live off them and shove my real money into the market. And just go to a private school to get my credentials and move on. That's wild. 12% a year for doing nothing, guaranteed.

Debt is pretty bad though, the simplistic view is probably a good thing since it seems like people are more than happy to stack credit card debt.

>> No.15830625

>>15830511
Agreed. It works for the general public.

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>>15830482
>and finds that people get misled since Dave promises 12% yearly in index funds.
With those kinds of investment skills (and false promises of future success), he may even be posting among us, right now! Truly, the boomer version of /smg/ is IRL scammers.

>>15830478
Bennet and Tulsi were the reasonable (moderate and un-corrupted) dem candidates. They were seen as a boring non-factor to the democrat media
The party/primary system is wrong. it encourages candidates to try and be more extreme (in the primaries) to appeal to their base, but then the independents (moderates) are the votes that actually determine the election.
our whole political system (eventually) moves to the extremes because of the way the media currently works (and the corresponding national attention span). nothing matters besides headlines, and anything longer than a single sentence is forgotten

>> No.15830643

>>15830482
>Dave promises 12% yearly in index funds
This is the exact fraud Bernie Madoff got caught for

>> No.15830688

God damn. Those GameBoy sounds, so kino

https://twitter.com/lowercase464/status/1178045555810816000

>>15830633
Yeah, more or less. Media is constantly pandering to lowest common denominator. One of the Real Housewives will probably be our first female president.

>> No.15830728

Are there any Dividend ETF's that can honestly beat SPYD and SPHD???

Everything i find googling around is some bullshit etf's that perform worse than those.

15 cents per month per ~40 bucks ain't awful for a relatively safe fund, of course i have ETN's and MLP's that do better with monthly leverage, but I'm looking for a dump truck for those days when i just feel like throwing a hundred bucks into the market just because stonks.

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15830778

What's the shittiest scam you ever fell for, /smg/? Here's mine.

>> No.15830793

>>15830778
MU calls

>> No.15830820

How much 3M gained from selling all those masks to Hong Kong in the past few weeks?

>> No.15830870

>>15830728
Generally not. Or not by much if they do. Historic data indicates a 2x s&p beats everything and can survive all but the very worst crashes, not that you should be holding through an entire 50% drop on an index ever anyway.

>> No.15830892

>>15830778
I traded a couple highly questionable penny stocks during the 2017 dude weed run. One of them missed earnings deadline and was halted. Took an immediate -25% on that position when the halt was lifted a few weeks later. And other stuff that wasn't a scam but very anti-shareholder value, like doing a private placement raise right after a bad news story at all time low.

>> No.15830926

>>15830793
not a bad bet if you got the time right. I bagholded MU from 55 to 35. At least you didn't do that.

>> No.15830999

>>15830926
It was end of Jan 18 into Feb. I dieded that week.
I also had apple calls.

>> No.15831000

>>15824082
Roll

H > I > G > L > D

>> No.15831010

>>15831000
Will trade girl c away, to receive girl h or girl i in return.

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>>15830870

I have a very small bit in SPGP which is 3x SP500, though no 2x longs right now. would have been great a year ago but oh well.

>>15830482
>>15830511
>>15830625
>>15830633
>>15830643

i've been a long time dave listener going on 7 years now, back then i listened during commutes and now i listen to every show on podcast hours at a time. I have the membership and everydollar plus which is pretty bitchin' for keeping up the budget with debit cards for the wife and myself.

you guys have to take dave with a grain of salt. he's incredibly successful for a reason, he's incredibly profitable for a reason, and his shit works for 99% of amerifats, just like walking two miles a day would. i do about 90% of his plan to the T - I simply didn't cut my 401k to zero but I did cut it significantly, and I cut my personal investing significantly in favor of paying down the last of our student loans, which are $9,200. I also have a positive net worth with 3 paid for vehicles. I also eat literal beans and rice during the week to keep our food budget down. I know beans and rice is a bit of a joke for Dave followers but some well seasoned yellow rice and a can of black beans is pretty damn good.

As for Dave's reasonable expectations for overall average mutual fund returns, he's not kidding, and you guys are kidding yourselves if you don't agree. you can argue what the real return of the SP500 has been over time but 8-11% is being realistic. there's no reason you can't imagine a mutual fund beating that overall. sure once you pull out the fees etc it's going to be closer to the S&P but the point is simply that for most people who are panicky, it's good to have a money manager in your corner telling you to HODL instead of sell, and you might as well make a half a point or so better than the market while you're bullshittin'. for you and me, we can pick and choose to make or slightly beat the market, or hedge with divvies, but for 99% of Dave listeners they can't.

>> No.15831069

>>15831028

To my last point, not to knock Dave listeners but they truly run the gamut, they are the VTSAX of talk radio listeners, covering NPR nerds and Rush fanboys all over the spectrum, so there's as many ultra conservatives as ultra liberals - yet the funny part is BOTH generally hold revolving credit cards and overspend.

I've been credit card free for 6 months and can't see myself going back. it's bad enough the student loan balance is taking about a dollar a day in interest. don't blame me, it was my ignorant wife who signed up for that bullshit so she could live in the dorms and be a unique flower unicorn bitch before my smart ass met her and gave her a dose of reality check.

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>>15831069
>Rush fanboys
??

>> No.15831220

>>15830820
MMM is a long term play
they are the adhesives king
they will outlast the turbulence

>>15830728
don't worry too much about current (instantaneous) dividends
unless you're about to retire and want some yield right now, for the next couple of decades
if you're young, you want to invest in companies that will continue to grow their earnings (and thus, dividends).
look for yield growth. If I say it another way, KNG.

>>15831000
your I>G>L part is correct, at least
I would say I=G=L=A > B=J=H=D=C > K > E=F
I got the fatty so w/e

>> No.15831264

>>15831028
take everything with a grain of salt
especially when it comes to investment
even with all the regulations that exist on what certain people with certain accreditation/job titles can say, random people can say anything. There are laws about what they can DO, but they can still run ""legal"" scams or slightly illegal/grey area scams

also 12% yearly from index funds isn't anything anyone should be expecting. After tax returns will surely be under 10% for the average person no matter what. If it gets dumb boomers to buy mutual funds instead of falling for other scams, then fine, whatever.

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>>15831072
For "Rush Fanboys" the usual meaning on the internet is the league of legends player.
He has a very fun stream, he is very good jungler. Speaks good English.
https://www.twitch.tv/rush

(for the posters who don't understand /s : we all know what he actually meant)

>> No.15831334

>>15831303
Jesus christ actual redditors are showing up now
Cringe and kill yourself unironically you massive faggot

>> No.15831352

>>15831334
:3
maybe you are not a rush fanboi
but you sure are mad

>> No.15831354

>>15830999
checked and how much did you lose?

>> No.15831386

so with all of the online brokerages now selling our order flows to black rock and other HFTs, can we use this to our advantage?

>> No.15831433

Anyone holding LPTX ? If so, what's your strat?

>> No.15831455

>>15831354
7-8k

>> No.15831461

>>15831072
The Necromancer is an awesome tune, underrated album over all too

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Recommended ETF's now that I'm not limited to Schwab's selection?

Thinking about getting some of that VIG on a dip, and an aerospace/defense like ROKT.

Might be better off just buying LMT, LHX, and UTX on the dips?

>>15830870
SPUU?
I forget why daily rebalancing even matters, and which I should go for and which I should avoid.

>>15831303
You had me going for a minute. I really thought he meant the band Rush, until right now. How is that fat fuck drug addict fuck still alive when so many people who actually take care of themselves just get shitty diseases and die? Fate and Fortune are strange gods.

>>15831334
>he logged in to his 4channel account just to make this shitpost
kek

>>15831433
Buy and hold and stop looking at it, keeping an eye on the news when there is any. Set some partial-position limit sells at profit taking levels just in case we get a brief spike that doesn't last. That's what I'm doing but I'm a terrible investor.

I miss LPTXanon, looks like he never came back.

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>>15831386
it was always happening (the last 5-10 years)
there is probably no way to take advantage of it, besides enjoying the commission-free trading.

>>15831433
LPTX to $60

>>15831500
Whenever I'm driving a long drive on the highway I'll tune into Rush on the Radio for some keks
It's like pure boomer in audio form

>> No.15831535

>>15831455
Jesus sorry for your loss. At least it wasn't an insane amount of money but thats still a huge play

>> No.15831541

>>15831517
it feels like a plan to get boomers to follow what yelling man says on CNBC and make day trades based what he talks about on his show. i will enjoy the free trading though.

>> No.15831547

>>15831541
Cramer?

I've been burned by a few of his picks (FUCK CGC) but I think his perspective on market psychology is useful.

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>>15831541
it doesn't matter what boomers want to buy
pretty soon, all the boomers will be selling (selling)
(and the few remaining pension funds will be selling equities and cashing bonds to pay their liabilities)
we'll see how it all goes (how it all goes)

you know back when I was turning 18 and getting into investing, free trading wasn't a thing. It is very exciting that people can trade for free now. Don't take it for granted!

>> No.15831654

>>15831535
Well, I was a dumbfuck. I lost quite a bit when I started, then had insane luck (but it was also a good pick) and made everything back only to lose it all again in that Jan-Feb week. I walked away from the stockmarket after this for a while to rethink this whole shit. It's unironically a good thing that it happened. It seems like you only really learn trading by burning a lot of money. There are still a lot of things I don't know but lately it really looks like I could actually make it.

>> No.15831776

>>15829203
Wait until TX goes blue.

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>>15824011
Buy this and hold

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15831812

>people ITT actually think Warren has a good chance against Trump

I gave Biden the best chance, and then Bernie or Kamala Harris. Biden has moderate appeal and polls strongly in battleground states, but Warren does not. Her poll numbers are some of the weakest vs. Trump, and this is BEFORE she gets the nom and has to endure the heat of the campaign. My dream scenario was a Warren nomination, I can't believe they're actually turning on Biden so hard. What a foolish party.

>> No.15831848

>>15831812
orange cheeto blimp has hardly changed anything, but I guess he's still better than full socialism for illegal aliens right now

>> No.15831872

>>15831848

The status quo is 100% preferable to most of the ideas tossed around on the DNC debate stages thus far. It got to a point where reparations were being discussed in earnest.

>> No.15831885

>>15831848
he's changed the judiciary immensely, and he's dramatically lowered the quality of political discourse, as well as inflaming tensions throughout the US (or at least accelerated it)

>>15831872
primaries always go a little extreme. Though biden is the only one who didn't go full retard and yet, he's being tossed aside with bernie for being toooooo daaaaaaamn ooooooold

>> No.15831886

>>15831812
Anyone could win against Trump at this point

>> No.15831909

>>15831886
I think you might need to step off the internet for a bit and see IRL.

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>>15831886

>> No.15831963

>>15831886

I don't think he's a lock to win, but it's truly astounding to me that people can be so deep into a bubble like this. He already won in 2016 when he was in MUCH deeper shit with grabembythepussygate. His polling and fundraising has gotten better than then and people are largely tuning out the media narrative around the latest "Trump did this!!" thing after being blasted with 24/7 Russia and Mueller coverage the past 2 years. His position has never been better honestly.

Of course the election will come down to turnout but this time he's playing with a much bigger bank and GOP solidarity (where they were torn on him in 2016). Add in incumbency advantage as well. Warren is a very poor choice to pit against him and it makes me wonder whether they're deliberately throwing the election or they really didn't learn the last time they nominated an uncharismatic woman with poor debate presence.

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Not sure why people are even paying attention to the next election.
The electoral college will not risk losing the corporate tax cuts that saved all American buisness. Guaranteed win for the Trumpmeister

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15832020

So, I just recently got interested in stock market, and finally decided to create a broker account.
Following the popular brokers list, I decided to try out TD Ameritade, since it was beginners friendly. The commission was a bit higher than the other choices, but I don't mind that for now.
But entering their website, it seemed like they're now commission free...
Is there any catch?

>> No.15832076

>>15824082
Rolling
>>15826495
I've made 10% on my portfolio in 3 weeks from that QQQ guy

>> No.15832084

>>15832076
>that QQQ guy
what?
>d
naisu

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>>15832084
There was an anon this week that said QQQ was going to rally to $191ish, so I bought calls and sold them when it peaked

>> No.15832176

>>15831812
Warren have better chance than Biden imo. Biden doesn't have much selling point over Trump

>> No.15832199

>>15831597
Considering most boomers are retiring/retired wouldn't it make sense for the stock market to crash as more and more start withdrawin their retirement funds?

>> No.15832219 [DELETED] 

>>15831812
>Biden

You actually thought he had a chance? The way he acts around little kids and never seems to have charges pressed against him? Yeah I can't see him ever being voted in, he's got higher odds of being charged with sexual assault by one of those kids when they grow up (should've been a parent but they seem more interested in keeping their rich and political status)

>> No.15832239

>>15832199
doomer talking point that makes no sense as millennial and zoomers put new money in retirement funds to replace them multiples over

>> No.15832242

>>15832123
>peak

Lol that looks weak. How much did you make?

>> No.15832250

>>15831654
I hope you do anon

>> No.15832275

>>15832242
Only $46, but at least it got me in the green. Bought at $27, sold at $73

>> No.15832278

>>15832199
Boomers aren’t smart enough thankfully to pull money out of the market. I tried convincing my dad diversify a bit and invest in things with more stable returns have more cash on hand etc. But he wouldn’t listen. I have a feeling all boomers are degenerate gamblers and will keep their entire retirement fund in the market.

>> No.15832279

>>15832219
>should've been a parent but they seem more interested in keeping their rich and political status
...what?

>>15832239
Well, it makes SOME sense. Isn't there a rule about mandatory distributions in retirement? There is going to be money coming out of the indices, and zoomer&millenials don't make that much money.

Hoping that Powell can stop being so conservative and loosen the purse strings. QE4 should help replace all that boomer retirement money.

I wonder how much of it is going to animal rights charities instead of their children when they die...

>> No.15832284

>>15831886
Wrong

>> No.15832293

>>15832278
>all boomers
>retirement fund
lel kek & jej

>> No.15832295

>>15832020
>Is there any catch?
No. Options still have a fee but trades on shares are free.

>> No.15832298

>>15824082
roll

>> No.15832313

>>15832279
>and zoomer&millenials don't make that much money.
They will soon, theyre just starting their job/careers and yes they will opt for the employer match

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>>15832123
>so I bought calls and sold them when it peaked
Nice work
What was your profit % on the calls?

I made some money off TQQQ puts.
It was about 40% in 4 days

>> No.15832368

>>15830414
>this board was originally made to take the crypto threads off of /g/
4chan would be amazing if it had an actual financial, business, stock, and career board. They need to make a board for crypto only.

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>>15832278
most of stock market is owned by companies and foreign investors, not 401k boomers it's somoething like few percent of dow and money in retiremet is drawn annually not in a slump in fact households are biggest net sellers past bull run sicne sub prime altogether, no impact at market

>> No.15832402

>>15831433
Took profit at 2.40 like we said we would and sold it all at 1.80 when it failed to push up again. LPTX is 100% going lower than than current levels. 51% overall profit though, ez

>> No.15832411

>>15832275
Thats actually nice. Thought the lines were small price movements.

>> No.15832430

>>15832373
Well you’re wrong. Institutional investors own disproportionately large amounts but average people still own the majority.

>> No.15832433

>>15832313
What about your job/career, sweety?

>> No.15832440

>>15832363
Little under 200%. I have some MO calls right now that are that are up 200% as well, wondering if I should sell them tomorrow or keep them and see what happens

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>>15832433
literally retired

>> No.15832552

>>15831963
>"Trump did this!!" thing after being blasted with 24/7 Russia and Mueller coverage the past 2 years.

This. I’m so burnt out on the negativity and the not-so-subtle implication that all the bad shit in the world is orange mans fault.

>> No.15832579

Pls be green next week.

>> No.15832621

>>15832279
most boomers will spend all of their retirement money on travel, etc. and leave nothing for their kids/grandkids.
some boomers are even going back to college with student loans

>> No.15832652

>>15832621
That... can't be right... how the hell?
Do their kids inherit their loan debt or what?

>>15832402
>I timed it perfectly
goddamn it dude you better be lying...

>> No.15832700

>>15832552
You poor thing

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>>15832652
No, we have been talking about profit targets since 4 days back if you check older threads. One guy had profit targets at 2.10, me at 2.40 (another guy also had 2.45 but placed the PT at 2.40 because you always want to frontrun it some) and one at 2.80 that obviously didn't get hit.
You should always sell and exit out if it fails to push above the area I marked here, basic TA.

>> No.15832710

>>15832652
>Do their kids inherit their loan debt or what?

No, they just stiff the government with the bill when they die.

>> No.15832713

>>15832701
I've been here every day, no way have you been saying that

>> No.15832740

>>15832700
Good vibes only. Can I just not hear about the guy for one fucking day.

>> No.15832770

>>15832740
...I should start muting his twitter feed on the weekends.
But, during trading hours, no way.

>> No.15832796

>>15832740
dont watch mainstream news
problems werent

>> No.15832825
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>>15832713
Meant 4 weeks or something back, not 4 days. Whatever I'm too tired to prove anything.
I'm re-entering between 0.80-0.90, $1 might have a harder bounce than what I painted but the momentum seems slow so wouldn't surprise me if it crashes below. Mainly posting this just so I can go back for proof fyi

>> No.15832831

>>15832796
I can’t watch fucking anything, that’s the problem.

>> No.15832845
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>>15831886
I really hope you're just pretending to be retarded

>> No.15832863

>>15832831
nor should you
almost all media, be it entertainment, news, whatever, is rulecucked poison thats trying to manipulate you to think a certain way, or buy a certain thing.

reject it wholesale and develop new ways of obtaining information

>> No.15832882

>>15832845
Are you? His approval rate took a nosedive and he hasn't delivered on any of his promises. Enjoy your bubble until you can't anymore

>> No.15832912
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>> No.15832916
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Is 2 hours enough for proper studying?

>> No.15832934

>>15832916
>cloud

>> No.15832943

>>15832916
lamo if they only had green paint, why wouldnt they do the stencil on the warm colors?
smdh desu senpaitachi

>> No.15833072

>N. Korea rules out talks with U.S. until withdrawal of hostile policy
Why the United States envoy claim it was progressing smoothly?

>> No.15833088
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>>15832943
The people I know who would go and paint shit on other people's property... they weren't the best or the brightest.

Vandalism was pretty based in the 80's, dyed down in the 90's, then had a stupid trendy resurgence in the 2000's, when people got into the stylized letters and Banksy and shit.

I can only imagine it's the lowest of the low who tag memes on city property in 2018, in fucking leafland.

I should spend less time on the internet... most normal people with healthy brains probably do see just a cloud or something.

>> No.15833101

>>15833072
I have no idea WTF we were doing there except just giving Trump something to put on his resume. If it was me I would have expanded US companies into NK and turned their population into the greatest slave labor force known to man in exchange for riches beyond their wildest dreams.

>> No.15833105

>>15824082
Rolll

>> No.15833121

>>15833088
btw this is your (my) reminder to get off your ass and do something to get the blood flowing, maybe do some core work.

>> No.15833179

>>15833105
>worst get
heh heh heh

>> No.15833218

>>15833088
meh its prolly just some literal underageb& who ODd on /pol/ menes

>I should spend less time on the internet... most normal people with healthy brains probably do see just a cloud or something.
idk, the normalfag is absolutely obsessed with memes, they just have a more passive/consumer kind of relationship with them. hence why most advertisements and marketing campaigns will opt for (poorly done, hamfisted attempts at) memes and viral marketing.

on the bright side, your fluency in menes will likely become a marketable skill in the not-so-distant dystopia of the near future

>>15833121
im sick like a dog desu
not happening

>> No.15833381
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FUTURES

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>>15832440
>wondering if I should sell them tomorrow or keep them and see what happens
I like selling off my initial capital and letting the profits run.

So if your up 200% I think it would be
sell 33% to get your initial capital back.

Out of curiosity how many days to expiration did you buy?
I like LEAPS but their not as volatile as the shorter dated options.

>> No.15833443

>>15833101
America want to do that too but North Korea want to copy Vietnam's model in term of economic development. Also North Korea want progressive denuclearization which mean lifting most sanctions while still maintaining some nuclear weapons but America want full irreversible denuclearization before lifting any sanctions.

>> No.15833483

>>15833429
That's a good idea. It ends Friday

>> No.15833504

i have PFE options that expire this friday. i'm already up and i don't know if i should sell at open tomorrow or wait.

>> No.15833535

>>15833381
whoa, thats pretty green. i wonder how long that momentum will last

>> No.15833538

>>15833483
drop it like its fucking molten lava senpai
if youre up basically ANY amount on a weekly contract, its time to pass it off to the next degenerate gambler to be crushed by the theta decay

>> No.15833550

>>15833483
alternatively, sell some and then roll out the rest if youre confidant on the move continuing

>> No.15833563

>>15833381
Why do you constantly post my wife?

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>>15833563
she is my wife

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>>15833538
You ever tried buying LEAPS?
SPY gives 900 days for the position to work.
I made 300% on 400 day leaps on SLV in a month.

>if youre up basically ANY amount on a weekly contract, its time to pass it off to the next degenerate gambler to be crushed by the theta decay
What days to expiration do you typically trade?

>> No.15833744
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15833744

QRD on 2X leverage?
I'm finna pick up some SSO, then dump on the trade talk hype.

>THIS WEEK
Consumer credit numbers Monday, do these mean a damn thing?

BIG SPECULATION HERE:
The Fed has a vote on Thursday:
>vote Oct. 10 on a measure to ease liquidity and capital rules for large U.S. banks...

Could this be good news for the banks? Will it cause a rally?
Is it time to pick up some FAS?

>> No.15833860

>>15833744
Time to pamp

>> No.15833884

>>15833718
for short flips? long options only/spreads aside? 3wks to a month. anything shorter than that is asking to get greekD by one letter or another imo

i also enjoy LEAPs, as youre saying, and tend to use them as a sort of stock replacement. also to hedge

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>>15832430
Well you’re wrong. Average people own disproportionately large amounts but institutional investors still own the majority.

>> No.15834104

>>15833744
>BIG SPECULATION HERE:
you're just a tryhard
the truth is the truth

baggie posted this last week sometime, but he's right, it's still one of the top EDM tracks of the last decade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAIoh9rxRi8&list=RDxAIoh9rxRi8&index=1

>> No.15834125

Why aren't you niggas using Schwab? Free trades and free ATM usage WORLDWIDE. Best bank/brokerage combo.

>> No.15834157

>>15834125
hey chuck
yeah who cares y3ah
I have chuck, RH, TDA, and more in my managed accounts

who cares yeah
plenty of accounts to buy equities yeah

>> No.15834191

>>15834125
I use vanguard for my Roth Ira and robinhood for my normal brokerage. I don't see the hassle to switch since I don't actively trade so I don't care about "muh shitty executions on robinhood"

>> No.15834196

>>15833718
>You ever tried buying LEAPS?
That when you buy options way the fuck in the future at low premiums and hope they go up?

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>>15834104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fphS3QKh2ZQ

>> No.15834267

>>15834125
giving RH till the end of the year to release their cash management.

>> No.15834278

is there an aggregating site or service that tracks movements in oil prices on weekends and after hours?

This is a fucking stupid question but google yields nothing even though I know there must be something

>> No.15834285

>>15824082
sup

>> No.15834298

I can see it now! The Fat Wad shall come to me, 40k or 80k hell I don't give a damn which it is. Then I'll divide the pile. 20k back into my bank, hey I gotta pay myself back right?. Then 10k into my VFIFX fund, 9,500 into more T-babies, $500 into my SWPPX fund. If I get the top end of 80k then hell yeah more T-babies shall be bought and more into my VFIFX fund. Come to me, oh Fad Wad of Green, make my future retirement oh so nice and worry free.

>> No.15834307

>>15831963
Trump didn't win by much last time and people didn't hate him like they do now. They just saw him as incompetent. He lost.

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Is YOLO going up or down?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw

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>>15834307
>>15825618
Jidf glow nigger go away
You fool no one

>> No.15834619

What the fuck is up with futures being red.

>> No.15834636

>>15834619
Cheapies season

>> No.15834647

>>15834619
The next 6-12mos will be a bull run never to forget, next 2-3 month might have a nice drop though

>> No.15834702

>>15825569
God I hope that Trump doesn't let up.

>> No.15834705

>>15824011
Let’s put Trump on the front of the $3 bill

>based 12 numerology

Can someone post the top 12 buzzy stocks of the moment? Tesla? Apple? Alibaba?

Also, if Bernie dropped out, would biotech pop?

>> No.15834724

>>15827545
perfect

>> No.15834784

>>15834437
nah

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15834853

Is staying in TQQQ a shit idea

>> No.15834872

>>15824058

Do it and I heard Robinhood has a retention department offering a free year of Gold if that is worth anything to you. Otherwise, no, just shift to trading on Charles Swarb and free your current positions on RH.

>> No.15834919

>>15824082
rollin

>> No.15835050

>>15834307
I think your memory of 2016 is a little hazy. If you think a little harder, you might remember that he was literally Hitler, who wanted to gas all the Mexicans and the Muslims, and a serial rapist, and a mind-controlled Russian asset, and so on. Many people still have the same mindset today, but Trump has really had a pretty boring presidency on the whole, and I suspect many skeptical Republicans have warmed up to him in that time, and many moderates who regarded him as an extremist have probably come to see him as a relatively unexciting president and have grown numb to the constant media hysteria. Absent any better alternative (which will NOT be forthcoming), I personally would vote Trump for no other reason other than as a protest against the media and hopefully to make obnoxious liberals seethe for another four years.

>>15834853
3x leverage means 3x the profits. How could you lose?

>> No.15835232

>>15835050
>, who wanted to gas all the Mexicans
But now we know he wanted to shoot them in the leg!

Worse still is Trump doesn't have the meme level support he did.

>> No.15835277

>>15835050
>hopefully to make obnoxious liberals seethe for another four years
I expect the river of tears to overflow if he wins again. It would be wondrous. The left hates him more now than ever before.

>> No.15835343

>>15835050
>Trump has really had a pretty boring presidency on the whole

If he could go 8 years with no wars and generally stable economic growth, he’ll be the most successful Republican president in the last 50 years.

>> No.15835409

>>15824082
roll

>> No.15835434

>>15830870
yes

ryvyx and such

>> No.15835435

Newfag here, how much money do i need before investing? I got 2,5k currently

>> No.15835474

>>15831264
rsp is runnning 13% if i remember right

>> No.15835476

>>15835435
Different brokers have different minimums but that's more than enough to get a fund started

Don't gamble it. Place most in a safe long-term fund and only do riskier stuff with money you're willing to lose

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>>15835435
You should invest in yourself when you’re young

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>>15834619

>China's top negotiator says he will not address its industrial policy and government subsidies in upcoming talks.

We're either getting a compromised deal that doesn't address the big issues or no deal at all and more tariffs.

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Nz has ZERO capital gains tax brb

>> No.15835689

>>15835435
Yolo oil and gas options

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>>15835476
>>15835503
>835503▶
>File: 2E50D553-22E7-4B96-820A-0(...).jpg (337 KB, 2048x898)
>>>15835435 (You)
>You should invest in yourself when you’re young
Thanks

>> No.15835702

>>15835504
China playing chicken with us eh? Well although I like what Trump's doing, if push comes to shove he'll probably compromise with them if the markets come tumbling down. His ego is too big to let the everything bubble pop on his watch.

whoever is president next tho is fuuuuuucked

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>>15835702

>> No.15835893

>>15835709
well that ain't great

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15835921

I made a jak you like?

>> No.15835931

>>15833381 -> >>15834619
>>15835504
>>15835702
>>15835709
>>15835893
Does this mean my puts are likely going to be in the green? Have some expiring too close for comfort.

>> No.15836005

>>15834104
HOW DARE YOU
The reputation associated with my tripcode is very important to me

>> No.15836058

>>15834619
if i was a betting man, i'd say little dip at start then a slow rally to end lik 0.5% green

then asx will go up 1%

of course i am pulling this all out of my ass

>> No.15836256

>>15835893
>>15835709
Did you read the Twitter username?

>> No.15836301

>>15835709
I think China Banks shouldn't give a fuck since they're getting an Official China cryptocurrency backed by the government, it'll be a way to control the people.

>> No.15836409

>Vix futures up 2%
I don't like it

>> No.15836431

>>15836409
Spicy

>> No.15836455

>>15836301
Other countries don't need USD to transact within their own countries.

Other countries already won't take Yuan. You think other countries are going to accept payment in Chink government crypto? Lmao

>> No.15836484

>>15835709
Note: This is about situation of Chinese banks branches in Hong Kong, related to emergency law usage

>> No.15836539

Aaaargh where is my crash!?
>bad data, markets go up

What will be the catalyst?

>> No.15836966
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will i be ok bros

>> No.15837436

my money go up

>> No.15837538

I mean.. just look at the NQ on the weekly. The candle signals for reversal upwards, one good news cycle about something will take us out of the current wedge and push for new a high.. one single tweet for a certain person and we're bullish again.

One
Single
Tweet

DO IT

>> No.15837632

>>15836966

>metatrader
>CFDs
>Shorting the markets

Dude... i don't think so

>> No.15837653

>>15837538

If one tweet can make the ATH he can also crash it.

We're gonna crab until the outcome of the China-US trade talks on the 10th become clear.

>> No.15837814

>>15824082
Please gimme goodies

>> No.15837828

>>15824082
No e and NO F

>> No.15837883

GE CUTS PENSION BENEFITS TO CUT COSTS

>> No.15838013

>>15824082
Please C

>> No.15838020

>>15837883

Pretty disgusting IMO. Also, what's even more disgusting is that the market rallied from it.

GE is in trouble if they are reneging on their pension agreements to cut debt.

>> No.15838023

Moon mission launching today

I can feel it

>> No.15838031

>>15838013
Hey nice
Good jobbb

>> No.15838083

Turkey to invade Syria

US evacuation in Northern syria

This true?

>> No.15838207

>>15838020
Cutt the pensions
Kick the boomers to the curb

>>15838083
Tanks in 30
I'm still rooting for our boy Bashar

>> No.15838230

>>15838020
>won't somebody think of the boomers?
pensions+social security+massive nest eggs their determined not to pass down out of selfish greed. I think they'll be ok with a little cut.

>> No.15838233
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15838233

If I transfer a large sum of money from my bank account to my brokerage account, will it trigger some kind of an alert (like money laundering or whatever)?

>> No.15838238

>>15838207
I'm rooting for a Kurdish/greek alliance that invades Turkey on two fronts, liberating constantinople, and establishing Kurdistan

>> No.15838242

>>15838083
Yeah, they gonna fight the kurds.

>> No.15838257

>>15838233
I don't see why this would do so unless it's something that you should have no way of having with your job/circumstances etc. It might take a while to clear though. Places will usually give some credit as a courtesy while fund transfer takes place but if it's a large amount likely not the whole thing.

>> No.15838262

>>15838230
>>15838207

If it comes down to working class boomers and filthy wall street kikes, I'd pick the working class boomers.

>> No.15838269

>>15838233
>>15838257
Don't quote me on it but they likely do have to report "large" amounts to some regulatory agency. (probably IRS/SEC?)

>> No.15838270

>>15838257
It's within the transfer limit set by my bank so I assume it's okay but I'm just worried because I very rarely make any transactions.

>> No.15838281

>>15838262
Kikes are gonna kike no matter what but I have a strong resentment of boomers for pissing away my future. Don't get me wrong it's not an excuse for the kikes but the boomer enabled them and more.

>> No.15838288

>>15838233
it shouldnt, best thing to do would be ask your bank or brokerage

>> No.15838294

>>15838238
Sounds cool

>>15838262
That isn't the situation though
There isn't money to pay those pensions. It doesn't exist. Has nothing to do with some imaginary hand-rubber that you've conjured up.
Next we have to cut the Illinois pensions to zero...

>> No.15838296

>>15838270
I mean as long as you payed your taxes and it's not money laundering there shouldn't be anything to worry about other than the funds not being available immediately. I think it's usually 2-7 days to clear

>> No.15838307

>>15838281
the boomers arent the ones who let 5 million jews follow them home from WWII

all at once too, not even a slow drip

>> No.15838382

>>15836484
I'm going to be honest with you right now. I'm going to be completely honest and straightforward.
When you little chinky chongs in Honky Kong talk about freedom, it's all a LARP. You're just trying to cosplay as Caucasians. But at the end of the day, Asians such as yourself can't really understand the true meaning of this "freedom" that you're protesting for.
For all the billions of Asians crawling around your continent, infesting and polluting, you have never produced a single Jefferson or Hamilton or Adams.
The Chinaman exists to be a slave or a master, but the true freedom of the West is something he can never truly understand...
Most of the people in Hong Kong don't care about the protests, they just want to scurry through the streets, not be stepped on, and live and consume and die.

>> No.15838446

>>15838382
>t. Historylet

>> No.15838486

Why to buy equities now at the peac of a market collapse?
Isn't QE or REPO market scaring you?
Why do you put your money in a future -50%?
Why has Buffet NO EQUITIES IN HIS PORTFOLIO BUT ONLY BIG BANCKS?

>> No.15838513

>>15838233
>money laundering
Your moving assets from one account within a highly regulated financial institution to another. That's not how money laundering works.

>> No.15838526

>>15838382
>I'm going to be honest with you right now. I'm going to be completely honest and straightforward.
It's a good thing you made that clear from the start, there. Otherwise, yeah, the assumption would be that you're just typing out random phrases for no reason.

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This really triggers my OCD.

>>15838513
Fair enough.

>> No.15838584

>>15838238
Kurds are communists and terrorists. They deserve only the sole of Turkey's boot.

>> No.15838597

>>15838238
You mean the renewal of byzantium

>> No.15838603

>>15838539
The only issues are with large cash withdrawals exceeding $10k, or when the bank has reason to believe that you're structuring your withdrawals to avoid alerting the IRS. Infringement of personal liberties. Totally fucked up. What if I want to withdraw $100k to dump in my bath and rub all over myself? Why does the tax man need to know about it? The nerve.

>> No.15838629

>>15838597
>unironically have Komnene blood

Will my throne be waiting for me?

>> No.15838657

ADXS just had a new hit. I'm so glad I bought this stock on the bottom

>> No.15838708

What are we gambling on this week?

>> No.15838790

Big pump coming for GORO https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-corporation-declares-commercial-production-114500574.html

>> No.15838806

>>15838799

>>15838799

>>15838799

NEW BREADY

>>15838799

>>15838799

>>15838799

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>>15838539
most people who say "triggers my ocd" or "im so ocd" have no clue what ocd is, they think it refers attention to detail or something ridiculous like that.

it's a neuro disorder share similarities to schizhoprenia (in schizo person cant tell hallucinations real or not, in ocd they know their behavior is irrational but there is a neurological misfiring in brain overriding that fact so rationalizing becomes useless against it). for outsiders people with severe ocd can seem batshit insane when they are in in 'hypnosis' state doing 'rituals'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8vmclHsJs

>> No.15839219
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GALT