/biz/ - Business & Finance

YAAAAAAAAYYYYYY

You know it ain't too late to invest in Fitbit

Is barchart.com actually really useful? I keep exploring it and it seems pretty nice. News, screeners, futures, COT, and maybe some educational function?

Or Maybe I should be exploring a different tool or interface instead?

>>16447425
I get all of my investment advice from StockTwits.

>>16447366
Complete first timer here. What type of traders are you /smg/? day traders, swing, long term investors and how do you go about choosing when to open or close trades?

>>16447448
Also if you are a trader, what percentages gains do you normally get/aim for?

>>16447448
Primal trading
Don't think, buy and sell with your emotions
Cry out like a wild beast and storm through the jungle naked. Bellow into the night and offer sacrifice to celestial gods for a good harvest . Trade timings are based on moon phases and weather patterns. For me this is the best way. But everyone is different.

>>16447490
This is not invalid.
I am reminded of the experiment where stocks were bought based off of a cat running across newspaper or something, and those random selections had a growth larger than 10% which was supposed to be the average of a stock broker.

>>16447425
Yes Barchart is useful for some things. The cell phone app is pretty good for keeping a quick reference watchlist going.

>>16447448
There are all three popping in and out of the thread. Depends on the day. I am mostly swing trader. Which you choose to do is determined by how much time you want to devote to the market, whether you can, or are willing to, monitor things for all of market hours or no. Depends how expensive it is for you to trade, meaning trying to day trade outside the US with their free brokers is often fruitless without a sufficiently large account as the fees from frequent trading will eat your gains. Do you want to focus on fundamental analysis of companies or trade more based on technical analysis of charts? Perhaps you'd like to trade against the index with leverage or with options to make money. All depends.

I aim for no set percentage however I do try to cap losing trades at preferably no greater than 5% loss. Exiting a successful trade, I do one half profit take at first consolidation point or immediately on large spike up and put a trailing stop on the remainder. If bullish continuation setup forms, I buy back in with the profit taken half. Selling is determined by signs shown to me by my indicators or stop loss triggers.

>>16447523
>consolidation point
you're gonna make it anon, thank you for not being retarded. right now, you're the reason i'll visit this godforsaken site next week too.

>>16447490
based

>>16447525
Well thanks. Doesn't always work out so cleanly though. Ramp up and them drop straight down without hesitation can result in a break even trade instead of a win for me. The ^ pattern. Best case is a couple days of sideways movement before it decides whether it wants to keep going up or putter out and slump like windsock on calm day. Absolutely perfect exit scenario for my strat is a double top. When those happen, my gizmos and widgets frequently tell me to sell spot on right near the top of the move.

A N I M E

P
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S
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>>16447523
Oh wow cool! I just tried out the one app, and I guess there's the other one you can actually use for trading if you set it up with your broker, but it might just be futures any commodities.

And it does have cool little indicators and things... If only I knew how to use them all... if only there were a class on all this that would just tell me what to focus on! All these pivot points and moving averages and oscillators and channels... there's so much to learn, and then so much to learn not to use once I know how to use it!

That's kind of exciting actually, or it will be once I get far enough into it to get it. And that doesn't even take into account things like balance sheet evaluation... maybe I should take an accounting course too.

Are these the kinds of indicators you use to do your trades? Or do you use some sort of scripting, or excel spreadsheet? Or just some sort of elaborate checklist?

I set a dickbuy order for NTDOY in the morning... just a market buy at market open. Too crazy?

>>16447650

Buying yourself a Nintendo stock before Christmas is almost like having nu-males buy you a present by buying a switch. Unless sales figures are lower than expected,

>>16447673
>numales
I suspect most are bought by parents for their children, because it’s holiday shopping season, and they’re a family friendly gayman company. Trumps not going to ban them for causing too many shootings or anything. And the least expensive.

But also, many zoomers, weebs, ironic weebs, casual gamers, gamers who already own one of the big systems, and poor gamers on a tight budget.

Not to mention, we should get some HYPE HYPE HYPE big news on Wednesday, I just hope it isn’t a letdown as I’m literally buying the top.

>>16447503
We literally have a guy that does tarot readings for us

>>16447722
>>16447766
Get a load of those repeating digits. Today is gonna be a good day

>>16447775
So close...

Ive got a knife to catch, Ive got a dream to catch

>>16447766
Yes and you should pay attention to those

UGH, such a great position on the NQ and here comes Trump swinging his dick around

>>16447775
Impressive. The digit gods smile upon us this day.

Today will be a 500-1000 DOW dump day, we're about to lose important support and with Trump screeching about no deal this year.. strap in

remember to buy the dip

Glad all my investments are in biotech because today is gonna suck for people in other industries.

So was Trump's comments about NATO and potential tariffs against France the given reason for the shit in futures?

Looks like ill get the chance to get HUYA sub 20. Exciting.

>>16448213
>Glad all my investments are in biotech because today is gonna suck for people in other industries.
>He said, with such confidence
>In the distance, some FDA officials feel a twitch in their legs
>Off on the east coast somewhere, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are plotting a new bill

>>16448372
Oh yeah I wasn't saying there aren't news items that can cause Biotech field in general to plummet.

What's your YTD, bros?

27.4% here but I haven't really taken any risks.

>>16448213
Are you invested in any boomer biotech stocks? It can't be all in SNSS, right?

>>16448372
>>Off on the east coast somewhere, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie are plotting a new bill
We're going to get our biotech nut before the elections and Trump is going to win anyhow

shit what is going on with nvidia? its ruining my green day streak

>>16448517
And down a lot. I have $40 calls this Friday. Yikes.

>>16448517
damn, aapl is also down by a lot

that one im sure will recover soon tho

>>16448524
>AMD

The retards at WSBs are suggesting to panic sell calls. Also there is a lot of differing blame over there. “Trump cost me $4k!” Yeah how dare he fight for the countries best long term interests. He should only do things that help you win your spy call gambles.

>>16448440
Remember to vote for Trump or you'll end up in the Warren-Sanders gulag when they get elected because you were too lazy to go out and vote.

>>16448554
Also,
>3 years of a golden bull run making us all rich
>one slightly bad day
REEE DRUMPH FUCK YOU NOW I AM ONLY UP 15% THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF 16%! IMPEACH!

im selling my major stock at open, this is looking like a repeat of last year

>>16448437
SNSS, AMRN, MTNB, ATBPF are where most of my money is.

>>16448517
>>16448524
>NVIDIA is crashing
Everyone is fucking spoiled.

>>16448582
Forgot pic

And once again I am left bagholding because I didn't sell at the pump.

>>16448563
A Scott Adams twitter post a while ago pointed out signs for someone experiencing cognitive dissonance. Online, people experiencing it often start a statement with a word like “ok” or “so” or “lol” before they type. I can’t stop seeing it now and it seems to happen a lot on “investing forums”.

>>16448608
I always thought that it's an attempt at smug signaling.

China trade deal "possibly on hold until after the elections in 2020". Read: Deal is DOA and we know it will completely fuck the markets now that it's priced in.
Waiting for China to respond to this saying that the deal is off officially.

>>16448607
Brutal, I just saw this a few mins ago.. From what I can tell after these Biopharmas moon it's usually followed by one or two days or further gains until they start going down.. Best bet is to get out after the end of Day 1

SGMO UP TO $12 IN THE PREMARKET IM IN AT $11.4 WHAT DO I DO WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO???

send help before 9:30AM EST please for the love of god and all that is holy, do i hold or sell at the open? god, i've been a bagholder since july waiting on this shit... should i wait for ASH results a.k.a. the lottery ticket?

>>16448863
If you have bagheld for a while, might as well hold out for a real payday.

Since SPY is going to crash, am I finally going to green on GLD?

Why did everything do a red yesterday?

>>16448830
By Day 1 I mean the day after the initial moon mission day.. AMRN, MTNB MYOV and ASLN all made substantial gains the he first day after the original moon missions.. KRTX did the same

>>16448882
trade war escalation

>>16448863
Pump on what news?
Nothing on Yahoo Finance so far.

>>16448866
i mean, i've gone from being down like 30% to being up potentially 10% it's pretty crazy to me. fundamental analysis worked out to a certain degree i guess. i always said that i would at a minimum wait until we got the SB-525 results at ASH (saturday this week, wow can't believe it's so close now after waiting half a year almost), and sell on the spike i know will happen before a sell off (look at the daily chart it's cyclic as fuck).

>>16448888
Impressive.

>>16448886
I just double checked this and MYOV is the only one that didnt also go up on the day after the moon mission.. It went up the 2nd day after the moon mission.. and the other ones all kept going up on the 2nd day too...

>>16448891
no news, but ASH is coming up and it's probably the biggest catalyst SGMO has seen all year. it's a buy the rumor sell the news type of event. i'm mostly wondering if i should sell ASAP expecting some degree of a selloff and then buy back in lower, idk obviously i can't know the future.

>>16448863
Found it:
http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/sangamo_granted_authorisation_of_first-in-human_car-treg_trial_1318670

Pump on pure fucking CART hype

SAVA!

>>16448900
er nvm MYOV didnt go up again until the 3rd day.. All the other ones did though

>>16448902
thanks my dude i'll definitely check that out. my question is do you think it's going up from here, or do you think there will be any sort of a selloff at the open because of the fucking 12% price spike in the pre market? i've heard rumors that there will likely be panic buying as shorts try to cover after this, so it may be best to not try to play it and just wait, but idk. this is why i hate this fundamental analysis shit, i just don't fucking know and im gonna feel like shit if it drops at the open and i missed my chance at free money you know what i mean?

i want to be in it for ASH but selling and buying back lower is nice too, but maybe it doesn't even go down and i get fucked. i think trump is doing the china trade war talk on wednesday though right? maybe sell off today and buy back after he inevitably says something that tanks the market?

Reminder MTNB has a presentation at 10:30AM EST today

>>16448923
>Reminder MTNB has a presentation at 10:30AM EST today
noice

>>16448893
Thats a good plan. Stick to it.

>>16448922
My investment thesis for SGMO is their hemophilia pipeline.
The stock pumps on positive trial data or gene therapy sector hype (eg. buyout of a competitor with gene therapy pipeline).

This new CART trial is pure hype.

If you are a trader, take profits. If you are a Buffett-sama believer, hodl until the hemophilia catalyst plays out (buyout or FDA approval).

Risk for the thesis: competitors' therapy being much more efficient and well-priced (eg. BioMarin is on its way to commercialize their therapy).

>>16448911
They have the cure for alzheimers. The world doesn't know yet

>>16448911
checked, QRD?

*sniff sniff*

Hmm, yes my dear, I detect some blood in the air. It would be a shame for this excellent rally to be erased in the last month of the year.

*sniff*

Oh yes.

>>16448975
kill the growth stocks, leave my divvies alone

>>16448975
Based and bearpilled.

And right on que:

>The US appears to be backpedaling in #tradetalks as officials threaten tariff hikes, but that will have zero effect on China's stance because Chinese officials have long prepared for even the worst scenario: Mei Xinyu, an expert close the Chinese Commerce Ministry

I expect the response to this will not be all nicey nice talk anymore.

>>16448996

Fuck your divvies. When Bobo comes to play, everyone gets hit. Some less than others, but everyone gets hit.

>>16448948
yeah... sucks but that's what i figure is best. seeing such a huge spike into the profit zone after being down for so long spiked my adrenaline though.

>>16448962
same, i've heard nothing but good things about SB-525 since ISTH in July, and then they got the new CFO and board of directors, science board, etc. now this car-T shit is even more good news, but my whole thesis was basically "im going to hold until it spikes unless i hear anything bad about the SB-525 data" and it's just gotten better and better over time. the main issue has been management problems and that has become better and better over the months with new hires.

just seems like as close to a guaranteed lock as you can get in biotech, i would just be absolutely floored if the data was bad on SB-525. everything else they have i don't care about, but when the other stuff does well it obviously helps. i figure the higher it goes pre-ASH the more de-risked i am if things go bad.

trust me i want to continue to be in this stock but i bought in way too high (i bought in during that july 8th ISTH spike, and have since averaged down over time). just look at that fucking daily chart. it's pretty obvious that it's going to spike again on ISTH and then have a huge selloff again, i want to sell on the spike and then buy back in when it drops and bottoms out. i was planning on doing that last time (earnings) but then trump came in with the tariffs on 300b worth of chines goods and the whole fucking market tanked and ruined it.

literally just buy that bottom area every time it's free money at this point. i would be cautious about shorting at the top but biotech is notorious for having news events that are few and far between and usually scheduled ahead of time.

>>16449004
China has no leverage. America offers the largest consumer market in the world by far. China offers cheap labor. One can be replaced and one can’t. I always thought China would try to wait out the trump presidency, but I do t know if they c am wait 8 years. Also I am SO looking forward to Democrat’s saying for the next year “yes we have to be tough in China but this is not the way to do it!” Then rambling into a vague statement like we need to work with our allies or some bullshit.

Fuck, the stock market is about to have a very bad day.

>>16449010
you think you are in charge here?

BUY NIO
BUY NIO
BUY NIO

That is all.

Advice please: I have $40 AMD calls expiring Friday. Do I hold or just accept the massive loss now? Poor timing I think AMD is in a great position but trade talks times poorly for my call.

>>16449029
Yeah I pray for my gains I've accumulated over the year. Not looking good for them.
>>16449037
B-but I already did three weeks ago. Up 25% on them.

>>16449022

I think you'll find that the imported manufactured goods in America has been keeping down inflation for the best part of 40 years. China is a huge part of that supply chain, and without it I think America is going to be in the position of having rising inflation.

And the only way to kill inflation is raising interest rates, something that would absolutely destroy the credit market in the USA.

Decoupling is going to hurt. It's necessary, but it's going to hurt.

Are we still considering Yahoo finances 1Y predictions as generally reliable? If so INPX (currently .04) with a prediction of .25 looks good despite all other red flags.

>>16449022
China doesn't need leverage. They would see their entire economy tank just to prove a point. Also on the cheap labor aspect, it would take years to pick up and move all that manufacturing elsewhere, not to mention very costly.

>>16449060
Yeah I agree. It will suck short term (like years maybe) but this has to be done.

>>16449063
There are factions within China's single party that are out for one another's blood. Those at the top have to deal with machinations and plotting from those who want take their place from what I hear, and such economic malaise will only make their position weaker. It's not as simple as you think.

>>16449036

Out of my hibernation I have come to play, to slay bulls that no longer want to play.

"Lock in profits" they will cry

And the big red candle will fall

Taking down the year's gains for all

>>16448974
Qrd?

>>16449125
quick run down, why do you think SAVA will pump? Alzheimers is a crowded field.

The VIX is going to go insane today. You faggots were too busy chasing the market in the last month to understand that anytime the VIX is under 12, it's compressing for a huge breakout.

>>16449036
silly bear intensifies

>>16449060
>>16449069
>>16449063
>>16449109
It's not going to happen.

basically everything on my watchlist is down right now except SNSS and MTNB

TRAILING STOP LOSSES ARE YOUR FRIENDS

>>16449133
It is, but their drug works. They eill present phase 2 data on thursday. Much much better than most.
Pti-125 binds to altered filamin-a. The altered filamin-a allows amyloidb to bind to various receptors and be toxic in the first place. So pti-125 treats almost the root cause, by taking altered filamin-a out of the picture.
It's also a small molecule and seems safe.
Aducanumab only does some cleaning on amyloidb. This prevents its toxicity

Trade wars are good, and easy to win.

$KO to 54 today

>>16449188
fun fact: MM's can see any hard stop orders you put down and can take your money, but they can't see trailing stops. instead of just canceling and sending a new order every time the price moves 0.01, they just hold on to that shit and activate it when price gets there for you.

>>16449189
Also, i don't know how will it pump, but in few years it's a 50 bagger. But there will be some dilution along the way

>>16448608
I say lol at the beginning of many argument posts because it pisses people off.

>>16449232
>>16448637
I knew it.

>>16449189
>>16449229
thanks doing some more research now. Alzheimers is the holy grail of pharma right now.

>He rises at 9:11 am
>guess it’s biz time already
>futures are in the red
>no NO NOOOOOOOOO
>It’s 9:30 am and I want to eat my soul again

Good Morning I Hate Amarin

If you're holding a bag of MTNB or plan to, their 10:30AM EST webcast can be found here https://ir.matinasbiopharma.com/events

>>16449249
>I Hate Amarin
This is not allowed

>>16449254
hodling at 1.14

>Only 7 minutes till open
Hope you guys are ready to sell. The economy crashes today. Cash out while you are still able

>>16449270
>trying to time the market

Yikes

>>16449270
If dubs everyone ITT will 2x today
If singles we -50%

>>16449293
Why did you put this curse on us?

>>16449293
AHHHHHHHHHHH ITS BEING FULFILLED

.. and we're off

fuck fuck fuck it all just keeps going down

>>16448563
options gamblers are a different breed. It's more like
>REEE DRUMPH FUCK YOU NOW I AM DOWN 45% THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF UP 70%! IMPEACH!
how many buy-and-hold 30yo boomers do you see complaining about a 1% day?

>>16448863
SGMO to $20 and beyond
if you sell at any pump, you might get left behind

Down over $1000 already, fun times

>>16449037
ahhhhh wtf happened to NIO?!?!?!?

Another day of red! Fucking Drumpf

>>16449345
and up 700 in a couple of seconds

>>16449349
its going back up lmao. calm yourself.

NOT
LIKE
THIS
CAN THE INTERDIMENSIONAL SPACE LIZARDS PLEASE GIVE ME BIG GREEN CANDLE

>>16449354
Up like 1500 in a few seconds after tha intial dip, wowie

>>16449359
Not FAsT EnOuGH!!!!

DDDRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUMPFFFFF

>>16449365
muhfugga its been 8 minutes. go for a walk.

>>16449011
I've posted to buy SGMO every single time it goes under $10 this year
the posters here do NOT want to hear it for some reason.
It's not some high risk PnD biotech. They're a genomics juggernaut, they have a higher level of technical ability in their segment than any other business. They are doing real sci-fi stuff with genetics, their pipeline and partnerships are gold-plated. It's nuts. $12 is nothing for this stock, this is still the buy zone, not the sell zone.

I swear there was a split second where RH displayed my NIO contracts as worth thousands, but it was blink and you miss it speed

>>16449380
shoo shoo bad pudoo, go back home and poo in loo

My one and only bio stock is green. Thank god.

The cheeto was doing great until he opened his mouth.

MARKET IS DOWN

RUN FOR THE HILLS

SELL SELL SELL

>>16449375
God I wish, I'm wagecucking right now.
>>16449382
Yeah that happens sometimes.

Quick /smg/, whats a good gold/silver etf?

>>16449388
hehe I'm actually taking my morning poo right now (in a real, strong American toilet. I've been pooing in this toilet for two years now and it has NEVER failed a flush)

>>16449382
that's a normal thing that happens with thin volume options on RH. If the books that RH tracks only show one really high ask, then the price that RH thinks is massive. As orders get put in the book the price becomes more realistic. But the only real way to know an option price is to get an order filled.

I don't know much about stocks, but there's gotta be something shady about Trump's constant flip flopping on china deal right?

>>16449405
GDX
I like miners if you want to buy stock
if you want to buy metal, buy actual metal, not paper

WHY DOES TRUMP ALWAYS HAVE TO TWEET AFTER HOURS??? JUST TAKE HIS FUCKING PHONE AWAY

>>16447490
Absolute brainlet. Never trade with your emotions. Be completely robotic. The market had been figured out, you just need the correct equation. Check the angle of the chart. If the the angles math precisely, but that stock. If it starts to drop a specific percent, give a hmmm, then dive your nose back into some books. Listen closely to robotic articles and AI generated results. Remember, the market can only stay irrational for a specific amount of time.

>>16449405
GORO. Check out the press releases on their website

>>16449342
but muh trump tho

>"In some ways, I like the idea of waiting until after the election for the China deal, but they want to make a deal now and we will see whether or not the deal is going to be right." When asked if he had a deal deadline, he added: "I have no deadline, no... In some ways, I think it is better to wait until after the election if you want to know the truth."

>Chinese state media said the government would soon publish a list of "unreliable entities" that could lead to sanctions against U.S. companies, signaling trade talks between the two nations are increasingly under threat from disputes over human rights in Hong Kong and Xinjiang.

>>16449416
He's playing the market for sure.

>>16449416
I think it's just dementia in all honesty.

>>16449416
His son in law and advisors like making money.

I'm all red ;_;

>>16449431
Thats a miner not an ETF. I already own 250 shares of GORO at 3.30 from earlier this year. Thanks to whoever shilled it here.

>>16449461
down $3200 in two days I for one am tired of all the winning.

>>16449427
nerd
brain off and hit the buy button
as long as you buy good stuff, you will outperform
your primal state is about being powerful and fearless, activating the berserker gene and charging into battle butt naked with an axe, screaming
if your primal trading state is all about fear and reaction, you will underperform.
you only exit a position once you've fully and completely had your way with it


>>16449444
I do think that he has some kind of dementia going on. or he's just too old to juggle all the different little battles he's trying to fight all at the same time

>VXX call hedges are suddenly VERY profitable
NOT LIKE THIS
IT WASNT SUPPOSED TO HE LIKE THISSSSSS
>>16447808
Who’s the lucky gorl? DLTR?
Have a nice knife bb

>he bought the /biz/ meme biostocks

>>16449416

We know he is intentionally pumping markets. That's indisputable. But to what end, we don't know.

His Administration is so porous with leaks that it's not inconceivable that information is getting leaked out into the hands of high rollers so they can play the markets.

It's more likely he's doing it just because he thinks the value of the stock market correlates directly with the economic performance of the country. The way he talks about the S&P 500 is like he'd talk about one of his Hotels.

DRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>16449403
yeet

>>16449510
these are actually holding up the best right now.

pink id for the pink wojack how fitting

AMRN pump when

Hmmmmmm...

I thought it might be worse desu my dude-arinos.

VIX at 17.

All we need is China to do something that is perceived as negative for us to be at mid 20s on the VIX again.

Financially, economically, fundamentally, spirtually..

>>16449547
>chinese plastic shit

>>16449547
>number 3,4, and 5 are all devices used for escapism

Makes ya think.

>>16449518

MTNB at 1.34 , Im 1 cent away from break even.. FUckk.. im gunna .. COOOOOOOOOOOMM

All red

>>16449547
how do capitalize on #1?

CRAWLIIIING IN MY SKIIIIIIN

AMRN is green gents

>>16449588
you cant. by the time shit hits the news all the money has been made. nothing personal kid.

>market is tanking time to buy some calls
>suddenly up 10% 20 minutes later
Stocks only go up

W-when is it safe to buy the dip?!
FUCK TURKEY
STOP SELLING LMT AND LHX
>>16449554
I already sold my vxx calls and tvix... maybe if we get a dip I’ll buy.
>>16449560
Maybe if reality were all that great it’d be able to compete with anime tiddies?
>>16449556
>chinese
You sure? Less and less in China, Nintendo been moving a lot of capacity out...

>Reports from Fox News that the December 15th tariffs are still going forward

Well it's been fun! See you fellas at the bottom!

>>16449611
Good, means more sales for Vascepa whenit triggers all the boomers to start having heart problems

thanks to whoever pumped SGMO up over 12% in the pre market today, real nice cushion against this trump bullshit.

i mean, trump is right and china really does need to be dealt with, but it sucks how reactionary so many people are to this shit (or i guess, how reactionary the algos are...). on the other hand, it makes me really want to look into what has historically happened with every major trump china trade war announcement.

literally just short anything and go long on gold/silver any time some bad news comes out, do the opposite when good news comes out. easy money it seems. im still waiting for ASH for SGMO but this shit seems incredibly predictable for some quick bux.

>>16449611
buy the dip

>>16449608

Stocks only go up in the long term. In the short term, corrections are hard and fast and they can wipe off years worth of gains within the span of a few months.

Reminder you got to register for the MYOV webcast 10:35 est

http://wsw.com/webcast/evercore4/register.aspx?conf=evercore4&page=myov&url=http%3A//wsw.com/webcast/evercore4/myov/index.aspx

Good luck bros

>>16449603
>my furthest OTM calls are going up hugely the lower strikes prices are static

Clown world.

Status Update: I'm still a retarded piece of human garbage and my positions all still suck.

>>16449611
Meh, people are overreacting. Tariffs are not the worst thing on this planet and the markets will recover, another 2018 dip by 15-20% would be nice though

>>16449632
MYOV too?

>>16449640
based

>>16449647
>another 2018 dip by 15-20% would be nice though
This is exactly what I am hoping for!

>>16449617

>i mean, trump is right and china really does need to be dealt with, but it sucks how reactionary so many people are to this shit (or i guess, how reactionary the algos are...). on the other hand, it makes me really want to look into what has historically happened with every major trump china trade war announcement.

Trump speaks tough when the market is at all time highs and he caves when the markets are in free-fall.

This was demonstrated back in May. We were cockteased about a deal all throughout April, and in the end the Chinese walked away. Market took a 10% dive until June 3rd, when Trump called the Chinese and asked for negotiations to continue.

QUICK! I have to win a simulated market in 7 days. Give me something to win it with!! 50k buying power

AAAAAAAA FUCKING DRUMPF

>>16449640
based retarded garbage

>>16449647
I don't know why people bitch about these dips so much. We have had them for years now. Every time it is just a good buying opportunity.

GALT. GALT. GALT.

*farts*

uh oh….STINKY!!

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>>16449665
SPY 315 calls for 12/13

Thinking about buying some more stock but I'm not sure if it'll go lower. LK seems like an interesting investment.

>>16449697
Stonks only

What's down the most? I'm ready to buy!

>>16449665
All in sava

>>16449696
...based
It sounds so much smarter when he’s not shouting it in front of a helicopter

>>16440259
Still feels good

MTNB at 1.38 and I JIZZEDINMYPANTS

>>16449664
yeah but doesn't that mean it's predictable enough to trade off of like i said?

that's the greatest part about the stock market in my opinion. before i used to get so mad about politics. now i can look at them for opportunities to make a profit instead of just being mad and unable to do anything about it.

>>16449732
.39 wwwEeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16449740
.40 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>16449732
based and autoejaculationpilled

>not scooping up all these cheapies

>>16449733

Yeah, but you have to read it right otherwise you get raped waiting for the other shoe to drop.

>>16449769
isn't that what TA is for?

Only need 1 more cent to tie the 52week high for MTNB. he heh, and they said you couldnt buy at ATH

>>16449539
Soon, brother.

Soon

>>16449789

TA can't tell you what is going to happen. It can tell you where supports and resistance levels are based on previous data, but it can't tell you what direction the market is going to head in the short term.

>My RH fuck around gambling account with like 1k is green
>my real bag of about $255k and dropping is blood red

FML

>>16449829
255k is a lot though fren. You could live extremely comfy for the next 10 years even if that money did nothing.. And the world is basically going to end in 10 years so buck up

>>16449828
TA can tell you what the price is currently doing and the overall trend. looking at the historical consistency of events like trump shit is what tells you what's going to happen, TA tells you how far it goes and when it turns around etc in real time.

>>16449510
You mean the only stocks not plummeting currently?

>>16449847
Nah, it's really not. I would need a 10x to say goodbye to wagecucking.

t. I have 4 kids
t.t. I would never eat into my principal

>>16449510
>SGMO up over 12% in the premarket, after a small sell off at the open it's still up almost 7%

feels fucking fantastic lads. i want this thing to be a high as possible before ASH.

>>16449866
ah if you didnt have kids it would be

t. married w/ no kids

>fall flat on face trying to profit off OTLK and BCEL pre-market hype, lose some mpney and have to use trailing stop losses at open to reduce damage
>park my money into ROKU and make some money back
>split half back into BCEL just as things get volatile and my tickers flicker from red to green every second
Not a bad time trying out day trading.
Also
>FB, GOOG, NFLX getting dunked on by analysts
Burn and crash pieces of trash.

BRKB DOWN 1.55%
BRKB DOWN 1.55%
BRKB DOWN 1.55%
>>16449856
Heh nice try kid

>3 month gains wiped
the worst part is I can't see any reason to change my trades, so I'm just not doing anything today. bobo is a boring playmate

THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>>16449871
Why is SGMO up? It's on a run the past couple of months, when did u get in? ASH appears to be at the end of a valley

>>16449873
>ah if you didnt have kids it would be
Not really. Inflation would devour me.

What are people buying today?

>>16449877
All of a sudden I have the urge to buy a Nintendo Switch

>>16449855

It's symbiotic. Trump has access to this kind of stuff. It's not a coincidence that he picked up the phone to China on June 3rd. 2700 on the S&P was the last stop before the December lows.

>>16449914
rope

>>16449910
It doesnt matter though because the world is actually going to end in 10 years for all intents and purposes. Mark of the Beast is in 2030, the UN says so

>>16449731
Yeah, it felt good when I dumped the top at 215 or so too... don’t forget to buy back in to BIG TIM’s BUYBACK AND DIVIDEND JAMBOREE

So basically Trump fucked us.

Why does the market keep reacting to his shitty tweets? Next week he's going to say a deal is near, and watch the market AGAIN react and go up.

I just want to go long and make money bros, this shit is forcing me to listen to Trump and start daytrading.

Or tweettrading more like.

>>16449914
added 5 shares of BAC to my divvy portfolio.

>>16449902

see: >>16448902

also BOLD got bought out so now the people selling that are putting their money into other biotechs.

AMRN keeps going up and so does my cock.. Im up like 2.5k today

>>16449931

>Why does the market keep reacting to his shitty tweets? Next week he's going to say a deal is near, and watch the market AGAIN react and go up.

Because he's the POTUS and he can hit any nation in the world with a tariff with the stroke of a pen.

The market is forward looking.

>>16449931
>not knowing economics, specially the stock market, is fake and gay

>>16449942
I actually pitched this portfolio idea to an asset management company a month ago during an interview: build a portfolio with all the gene therapry players.
Didn't get hired though :/

>>16449920
mark of the beast is the current financial system. blockchain is the divine solution. invest in WWJD

ACB looking good today. How about that!

>>16449931
I don't know that he fucked us if you're thinking as long term as the Chinese are.
>Trump wants China to stop fucking us over
>China wants business as usual so they can become the world power and apply their bullshit on a global scale
>Trump fucking up that plan but he's only president for 4 to 8 years
>Xi is president for life
China wants to wait him out but their economy is getting shafted by the terrifs and uncertainty
>Trump knows "no China trade deal" will be a major attack during the campaign next year so he's getting ahead of it by saying he won't do it until then
>The damage is felt up front but the market cares more about uncertainty so knowing that he won't do it until 2021 is a certainty they can recover on
>China continues to get fucked harder than us
Don't forget we have a trade deal with China and Mexico that the house isn't willing to vote on. What makes you think they'd vote on a China deal if it had even a remote chance to make orange man look good. The day that deal is signed the market will rocket and they know it.
Realistically we shouldn't do business with China at all. It was a mistake to begin with. Fund the rebellion in Hong Kong and wake up the main land too.

>>16449948
>stroke of a pen
More like a tweet from the presidential toilet
>>16449958
Fuck off back to crypton, Jesus wouldn’t worship the false idol of fake coins. There is only ONE TRUE COIN.
>>16449915
That’s so odd... I just have the urge to grab two handfuls of a nice fat girlbutt

Is DB going under $7.00 today?

>>16449958
Youre in for a rude awakening.

https://www.boomlive.in/is-un-planning-biometric-identification-for-humanity-by-2030-a-factcheck/

It will be illegal to use any currency other than theirs and if you do they will kill you. And the beastcurrency will probably be some kind of crypto, might even be Bitcoin. Or it will probably be Bitcoin. The "Beast" is an AI. As you just saw Google bragging about their AI Quantum Supremacy and the ability to crack all crypto.. The currency will probably be some crypto created by this AI

Sorry for schizoposting

>>16449940
very nice, I might buy a call for bac.

>>16449986

I hope so, then I can accumulate more.

>>16449940
I was looking at that last night, Barchart identified unusual call volume in BAC

>>16449914
More dis calls because im probably retarded

>>16449986
God I hope so. I've got 4 $6 puts that expire in April and some profits would be nice. Sink faster krauts!!

>>16450028
DB is like a cockroach, it doesn't fucking die.

>>16450028

By then they got a capital injection and their price is back up to $15

>not only does yotsuba-anon pick best girl he also has best trading strategy
never thought i'd find an avatarfag with such patrician taste

this is the worst day i've had since july

what the fuck is going on with $TGT

>>16450001
I think people are speculating whether or not the fed will allow Buffett to gain more than a 10% ownership of BAC. He's got too much cash to deploy and its a pretty decent bargain for such a stalwart

>Trump says Tuesday’s market drop is ‘peanuts’ and won’t force him to make a bad China trade deal

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

>>16449931
The market is reacting to Deutsche Bank collapsing.

Help a retard out. If I sell a call and it ends up over the strike price but under break even am I good? Or do I need the call to expire under strike?

>>16450036
That won't last forever. Looking at it long term they're on the edge. With global recession on the horizon they're as good as dead.

>>16450105
the ECB has the same infinite money trick the Fed does.

>>16450114
Developers need to patch that shit out.

>>16450098
The break even price is the price the option must be at ON the expiration date. It's a result of the theta which is the time decay. Which is basically nobody is going to buy an option that is several percentage out of the money with a day left until expiration because the odds that it breaks out are slim to none.
Basically you're good to sell for profit before expiration. It's the smart move. Get to a point where you can consistently get 10% or more return on small options trades and use that strategy on bigger trades later.

>>16450134
it's a feature not a bug!

>>16450080
Good black Friday expectations?

>>16450091

There's been barely any trading volume on DB today after the market open drop.

oh shit amrn

My strategy of buy etsy and never sell seems to be giving me a stroke. Not healthy.

>tfw my GE is only -15% now
There's hope, lads.
At least MSFT is 60% for me.

>>16450159
You’re still alive?
Damn dude. I learned the hard way not to keep digging when my thesis is invalidated and I’m already in the hole big.

Except for PINS, these calls will probably expire worthless.

>>16450143
Don’t laugh I have $100 and I want to practice in JCP. There’s not a lot of options available. Thanks. This is very helpful.

SGMO consolidating like a motherfucker right now, wtf?

FLY MY PRETTY, FLY

>>16450177
BUY THE RUMOURS SELL THE NEWS MEME LMAO

lol i already recovered, nice "recession" you got there bears

>>16450151
why are you asking me?

Yo retards I picked up a tarot deck to dick around with and test my theory that the deck has as good of a chance of predicting the market as any one of us, ask me some questions so I can practice.

So far; the China trade deal will not be resolved this week and the forecast for the SPY this week is uncertain/grim.

>>16450173
Trying to get regular cardio on the exercise bike. I can't let it end this way!

>>16450225
Will I ever get a gf/wife or is too late for me?

>>16450225
Will I get Beyblade for Xmas?

>>16450225
We already have a wizard, thanks

Listen, Trump is totally giving you all a buying opportunity for cheapies. Trade deal will be complete by the end of the year.

>>16450228
let the meme die, buy up cheapies of good companies instead. Buy berkshire and LMT all the way down. MRK too.

>>16450187
that's ASH, if anything consolidation after a move like this is great, especially on a trump meme day like today. needs to consolidate before it can move even higher.

now, when ASH happens (this sat.)? watch the pre market on that monday, THAT will be the real sell the news point after it spikes. really good time to buy into SGMO right now in all honesty before the thing skyrockets next monday.

>>16450174
No laughter here friend. I've got a 30k portfolio but I'm still only dropping 100 dollars per option play. The key is giving yourself time and being realistic. Remember that the days at play are just Monday to Friday and ask yourself if the stock can realistically make it above/below that value in that amount of time. If you play far out it's easier to make that bet.

>TSLA still green on 2 blood red days
it really is the biggest cult ever.

>>16450080
Chyna

I'm green across the board today

>>16450191
It's rhetorical. That's probably why they're up and everyone else is down.

>>16450277
ATE is rising

>>16450272
Imagine how much money you could make if you bought a bunch of puts and then assassinated Elon, the whole thing is a cult of personality

>>16450277
Same except for VOO

>>16450234
You seem to have gotten a pretty hopeful drawing, focus on self improvement and your waifu will come.
>>16450235
Yes or no questions aren’t conducive to tarot reading.
>>16450244
I’m aware of that, my purpose is to speculate for the week ahead and then see if there was any correlation.

>>16450321
Do a reading on AMRN.. and then do a reading on if the FDA decision will happen in the next 20 days or not

>>16450288

I’m the fbi and I’ll be visiting your home later

>>16450225
i just did a reading and it was very positive. Santa claus rally is upon us. Today was the dip and its uphill from here

>>16450339
Bring snacks

>>16450321
You had better not be giving me false hope. Seriously though, did they come with instructions or how did you learn to use them? I've always thought they would be fun to fuck around with as a party trick or whatever, but have no idea how to use them.

>>16450330
I got a very positive read out for AMRN, some sort of stalemate is expected to be broken and growth to follow. I’ll be tracking AMRN and see where we are next week.

>>16450342
I’m personally inclined the same way

>>16450356
All I did was ask if anon would be getting a wife. Amazon had a deck and manual for sale so I scooped it.

FUCKING GO UP ALREADY REEEEEEEEEE

LEAPPPP BRROOOOOS WHERE WE AAAAAATTTTTT?!!

I'm selling my LPTX bags today, learned some very valuable lessons about bagholding, biotech, DCAing, and not being afraid to take losses.

>>16450225
What can we ask? Only Yes/No questions or what?

Let me know what's up with $SGMO please, how are we looking for ASH coming up soon?

PEP calls on sale...

>>16450342
Santa Claus rally was killed with a single tweet

>>16450403
Is it funds you really need for other shit? Because there's like 4 really strong buy areas down here, 0.60 (where it bounced from), 0.42, 0.31 and 0.21.. so you can just hold it since it will probably keep climbing now. Or maybe your bags are just too heavy? Where did you buy?

stopped out on my GEO short, made back $8 of my massive loss :)

>>16450403
How bad were your losses?

>>16450403

What did you learn?

I'm all in on only one specific stock without stop loss in place.

I'm fearless.

>>16450225
i was bored so i googled tarot cards online and got this, wondering about my SGMO investment. thoughts? https://www.free-tarot-reading.net/readings/166571220

probably means nothing but it's interesting at least.

>>16450530
can i buy stock in tarot cards themselves? asking for a deceased friend

>>16450483
i would never own a sub-$1 stock lmao. SGMO is bad enough flitting in and out of the teens. it's the one time im ever going to give FA a chance, i've spent months researching this one but unfortunately that research was after i bought in around the top. i know it's going to spike it's just a question of how much.

>>16450414
Any but yes and no questions

>>16450530

To answer both of y’all’s questions: The cards suggest some sort of upheaval but the forecast seems very positive.

>>16450572

Will I stay an incel forever?

What would happen if there was a penny stock that we all had bought a shit load of, at regular price. But then a hundred of us would buy just one more for around 50$?
Would it trick the normies into thinking it is worth more than it is?

>ENPH up 35% in the past month

>>16450593

>>16450572
Would it be in my best interest to try to exchange contact information with this little lady in my class before finals? Or perhaps, the tutor?

>>16450483
>Where did you buy?
I'm down over 50%, I did take profits earlier in the year when it was over $2, but not nearly enough to make a difference.

How do you figure those "buy points"? Why would it go higher, those sound like places to buy on the way down...

>>16450499
I'll never tell :)
(a few hundred, nice digits)

>>16450512
>What did you learn?
Take your profits and get the fuck out on bioshits, if you don't "know" why it's rallying, just be happy that it did, and don't guess why it then goes lower and buy back in.

Limit your holdings to either blue chips or stories you have SOME interest in beyond basics.

Don't catch falling knives.

Any money you have in any one holding is money you don't have in Berkshire. Would you really rather own this, or just be more overweight in based Buffet, LMT, PEP, NTDOY, MRK, MA, MCD, DIS, or QYLD.

Some other shit, but I gotta get to class.

Enjoy the obnoxious spacing of this post, I'm doing it for (you)s

>>16450606
They might look at the chart.

>>16450551
You know, i made a shit load of money with Bombardier, when I bought them under 1CAD, but sold them for over 4CAD.

>>16450636
>a few hundred
Mine are two orders of magnitude higher, so just remember that you could be doing much worse.

Will tomorrow be red too?

>>16450551
Well I'm talking about trading here and not INVESTING into garbage stocks. I know the motto here is buy high sell low, but come on now.

>>16450636
Indicators. Considering price has never been that low, algos are usually the ones that buy in bulk at a level and algos uses indicators like the RSI to spot those levels (this usually includes profit targets aswell for shorters). That's how I get my positions above ATH's or under ATL's

>>16450731
i wouldn't even trade penny stocks in all honesty, especially when they are so often low float. biggest issue i have with them is liquidity for trading, like if the average trading is in the hundreds or thousands of shares every 5 minutes and you want to buy tens if not hundreds of thousands of shares, it's not really feasible to day trade that sort of shit. i mean im looking at LPTX right now and many of the 3m bars are trading sub-1k shares, fuck that shit.

Fuck it, I'm out. Going all cash at least until January. I've basically made no money this year after losing 25k in the last two days.

>>16450710
Trump has no choice but to let the tariffs take effect on the 15th.
Sell now or live to regret it

>>16450823
If he tanks the economy he will not be reelected. He and his advisors have to know this.

New bread?

>>16450780
Well yeah, that's why you don't day trade it kek'd. You're suppose to buy at levels you think the price will bounce at, day trading this shit would be suicide.

>>16450838
Voting was a mistake.
We should do lottery instead

>>16450675
made that mistake elsewhere fren...
sucks to be down big in the Golden Bvll Market.. what can we do but learn and be better?

>>16450636
Are you of equal standing to this person or is it merely an infatuation?

Consider not just your own perception of yourself as well.

What cheapies are you niggers buying

>>16450897
gbr

>>16450897
Waiting for the knives to stop

>tfw ACB hasn't gone lower yet.

I bought a $3 cad put. Expires Friday, is ACB gonna hold?

>>16450945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHho3_ZRKZ0

>>16450945
Until after hours friday when it nosedives

>>16450842
oh sure i can understand that, i still just find penny stocks to be way too risky especially the low float variety. i'm much happier going for low risk medium reward as opposed to high risk high reward. i guess it all depends on how much of your capital you're putting into it though. i generally day trade shit like dell or nvda where the liquidity is high as fuck and no one cares about my sub-1k shares going in and out of the market. after i make enough "extra" money (after i earn enough to pay my bills and have more left over), that's the kind of money i'd use for these high risk high reward things. im not there yet though.

>ONE green stock in the entire DOW 30

>>16450895
>equal standing
very different stations in life, what do the cards say?

Can some one explain why we have to wait another year for the trade deal if as of yesterday the deal was "very close"?

>>16451083
trump wants to make it an election issue for some reason

>>16451083
because Trump is going to win in 2020. he knows it. China knows it. he sees how desperate they are for a deal now because they can see the writing on the wall, they can't just wait for a limp wristed dem to come in and let them continue raping the U.S. and the world economically.

it's excellent and extremely necessary in the long term. in the short term it fucks up the stock market though, but if you're a day trader like me you can make a lot of money off of the volatility it provides.

NEW NEW NEW

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>>16451122

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>>16451093
The chinese do for sure. String trump along and hope a dem wins and is ready to swallow the gravy

>>16448003
There wont be a deal until China stops selling Oil futures in it's own currency.