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>>16830995
Uhh no. They made this retarded shit up.

>>16830995
Their choice not to use Obamacare, which would have covered this.

>>16830995
Fake.

>>16831001
This, holy shit these people are retarded

>>16830995
>can’t afford it
>we need BERNIE!
LUL

>>16831003
It costs $200 a month

>>16830995
Also OP WHYA RE YOU A faggot?
GO BACK TO R3DDIT

>>16831009
The cost depends on your income level. Also,
>$200
can't afford that with two people paying? Shouldn't live in a high cost area.

>>16831017
bitch nigga im bringing you this information from where these idiots post it

grow a brain dawg if they posted it on fucking breitbart then id screenshot it from there>>16831017

>>16831025
Or maybe jt should just be free

>>16830995
>histrionicslut
>my husband
heh, cuck

>>16831051
Nice catch. Yeah, imagine my shock.

>>16831033
Nigger detected

>>16831045
No.

Why doesn't the government pay for this man's leg to be fixed so he can keep grunt working his wage slave grind and produce for us?

They have to treat homeless people if they come in. The fire department and the police all push the cases they cant control to the ER.

>>16831008
>>16831017
>>16831068
"am i cool guys?"

Poor woman gotta eat her husband's leg for dinner.
Why not prep it after chopped tough? Must be a receipt's shortcut.

There is something wrong with medical care in the USA.

Think about when you go to the doctor. How much will it cost? Who the fuck knows? You literally can not price check health services until you actually get them and the bill is in the mail.

Insurance companies are unnecessary middlemen who make the process a lot more cloudy and inefficient.

Maybe a perfect system would be medicare for all for small, routine things, and health insurance only for large things or emergencies?

>>16831045
Do you work for free?

>>16831103
no
and stop quoting yourself turbofaggot

>>16831183
I don't work. The docs would still get paid - by your taxes

>>16830995
Feel the BERN!!!! My pinky finger cost $800 to splint and wrap (should've done it myself) the XRAY was extra

Daily reminder that all Emergency room stand-by services are essentially free for illegal immigrants

>>16831182
>How much will it cost? Who the fuck knows?
Depends on what is happening and how hard it is to fix.
>Insurance companies are unnecessary middlemen who make the process a lot more cloudy and inefficient.
Insurance companies negotiate with hospitals so they don't charge you 10x more than what they already do.
>Maybe a perfect system would be medicare for all for small, routine things, and health insurance only for large things or emergencies?
Those that don't have insurance now wouldn't save for the days they need those emergencies. The insurance companies would keep the costs the same now anyway.

>>16831182

The best thing is free because the EMTALA requires emergency rooms to treat people anyway might as well treat them when its cheaper and keep the grunts healthy and able to produce for us.

The other option is repealing EMTALA so when a grunt gets hit by car or has a heart attack or something if you can't find their ID to make sure they can pay you can just leave em there to die.

>>16830995
>can't afford a doctor's appointment but paid $150-$200 for a fucking D&D portrait
https://www.reddit.com/r/HungryArtists/comments/bwfsae/hiring_dd_portrait_150200/

>has a dog
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProRevenge/comments/cw4qvm/mess_with_my_dog_i_will_salt_the_earth/

>drinks alcohol
https://www.reddit.com/r/drunk/comments/7a7tem/playing_the_bard_in_dd_i_have_to_be_drunk/

Yep, another stupid lying bitch, nice fake story about how you can't afford a basic doctor's appointment. Fucking dumb cunt.

>>16830995
>Spends $500 on a ER visit (after insurance too ER visits are like $5,000 here which is fucked)
>Can’t afford $200 on a doctor visit
Maybe they shouldn’t of gone to the ER and just go to the doctor to get a cast.

I agree medical care is fucked in this country but don’t make shit up

>>16831204
Of course not

>>16831182
Why don't you just work for a company that offers good health insurance?

>>16831204
>The docs would still get paid - by your taxes
Imagine actually believing this.

>>16831009
>he can't afford $200 month health insurance.
AHAHAHAHAHAA OHHHH OH OHHH OH OH OHHHH OH OH OH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OH OH OH OH OH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OH OHHH....MY SIDES!!!

>>16830995
Found the mentally retarded ancap. American healthcare is an absolute disaster. Literally every other first-world country can figure it out. Except for us.

>>16831182

Medicare is literally the reason the system is broken. The government decided they wouldn't pay market rate, so the insurance companies demanded the same treatment, and the hospitals just jacked the cost up and removed all transparency to counter it.

Medicare for all cannot work without the government just opening the hospitals and using price setting by operating on a budget deficit

>>16830995
Wait till it heals wrong and they need to pay 30k on a surgery that could have been prevented by a $1200 or less visit to an urgent care

imagine actually paying your medical debts.

>>16831009
Are you dumb? It goes by your income.
>>16831204
Yea you're fucking stupid

>>16831182
Trump is considering an executive order to require hospitals to disclose pricing.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/15/trump-administration-announces-historic-price-transparency-and-lower-healthcare-costs-for-all-americans.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/15/trump-releases-rule-requiring-hospitals-and-insurers-to-disclose-negotiated-rates.html

Trump had been trying to work with Congress to pass a law for it (which is the right thing to do, of course) but Congress is in the pockets of the medical establishment so they aren't going to do shit to rock the boat.

>>16831427
>American healthcare is an absolute disaster. Literally every other first-world country can figure it out. Except for us.
Yeah, their healthcare models are "let the U.S. pay for drug and treatment development."

Russia literally shut down its FDA around 25 years ago and said "any drug that is approved in the U.S. is approved here."

The reason there is no drug development for third-world diseases like malaria (except for charity efforts like the Bill Gates Foundation) is because no one in the U.S. needs antimalarial drugs, and all the places that do need such drugs are socialized "healthcare" systems that refuse to pay development costs, so there is zero money in developing new treatments.

>>16831045
Nothing is free.

Healthcare per se is a jewish scam. Anything run by the government is in turn run by jews who are both equally corrupt. If you need to get your health issues legitimately treated, you need go to a private non-jewish health facility. Getting full health coverage in America is almost literally free. Not being able to afford health care is not society's fault, it's on you for being so lazy so that you get sick. Most illnesses are placebo and most people fake their health issues for patreon money anyway. In short, fuck off, you lazy commie leeches. The day of the rope draws nearer.

>>16831001

this.

>>16831182
(((unnecessary middlemen)))
yeah no shit

this is all fueled by the central bank, it's THE tool of manipulation of the jewish cabal.
everything they want to exist gets endless mountains of cash delivered to it
everything they want to fail gets regulated and legislated out of existence by their bribed government agents

it's pretty simple:
if we don't completely throw society into chaos and start savagely killing every jew we can get our hands on, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE

also this is the only way you will ever get a legitimately beautiful woman to breed with

>>16831001
shhhhh let these commies have their moment in the spotlight

Healthcare outside us isnt as good as you people think.

>>16830995
In the USA the so called healthcare system is a missive money making scam If any of you think any politician would ever change that, you're clueless.PERIOD.

>>16832700
>outside US
ahh yes, everything outside USA is exactly the same.

I guarantee 1000% that the source of OP's pic is just straight up virtue signalling or a JIDF shill propaganda to prop up (((Bernie))). I've never seen anyone in a real cast before, that shit is usually hollywood made up movies. Bones heal fine on their own, you don't need to pay to go see a (((doctor))) to treat it. There's no need to pseudoscientific shit like wrapping your limbs in 50 pounds of paper mache lmao, fucking bugmen commies.

>>16832705
Not saying full communism is the way to go but this anon has a point. Hospitals, drug companies, and insurance companies all jerking each other off simultaneously. I really wish people would collectively refuse to pay the insurance jews and collapse that system. Could you imagine a world where people paid for a service they could afford and it ended there?

Why did healtchare become unaffordable? I don't think people complained about this shit in the 80's and 90's.... did capitalism suddenly figure out how to fuck people at that point in time? Or did government involvement in healthcare fuck it up?

Taxpayer funded health care, right alongside lobbying, is the single biggest cause of inflated health care prices and engineered health care inefficiency. Retards who want the government to fix all their problem don't realize that the problem wouldn't have existed without heavy government regulation in the first place.

>>16831236
>>Insurance companies are unnecessary middlemen who make the process a lot more cloudy and inefficient.
>Insurance companies negotiate with hospitals so they don't charge you 10x more than what they already do.
Fucking WRONG, hospitals only overcharge because government paid insurance can't stop them without acting in bad faith since they are supposed to protect the insured. If there was no insurance middleman hospitals would be forced to provide competitive and transparent pricing.

>>16832757
the government is allowing extremely large corporations to fuck all those who are trying to pay for and use health care services.

Additionally, they're making it very difficult for anyone to start a small, honest health care business. They do this by creating certain regulations and licenses that must be complied with.

So that's why the hospital and aetna just bend you over the table.

>>16831003
In the crazy persons defense...obama care has been gutted in away that some people can’t even afford the monthly premiums.

>>16831076
>>16831068
We pay enough fucking taxes...some stuff should be free. >>16831183

What the fuck is wrong with Americans? Imagine actually having to pay for healthcare lol.

>>16832921
imagine paying 50% income tax for "free healthcare"

i swear you europoors don't understand basic math

>>16832921
Imagine spending a trillion on free healthcare when you can spend 3x that on pointless wars. Europoors are pathetic.

>>16831182

ignore these burger replies, i live in australia and we have socialist healthcare, i had an operation on my shoulder a couple months ago and it was all funded by the government. i would have been fucked if i lived in the us so thank god i dont, remember its not the type of economy that runs a socitey its how well the people are at running the economy

>trump spent trillion on military recently
Healthcare is wrong

>>16832677
Literally this

>>16833131
Agreeing to this too. The Jews have got to go. You can call it anti-semitism. I call it curing cancer.

>>16830995
This is redd*t tier bullshit. If you have an illness or injury which even distantly resembles 'serious' then every single ER in the country WILL treat you for two reasons. First, it is the "law." Second, the liability of denying treatment enormously outweighs any possible loss from actually providing treatment.
>t. PGY-4

>>16833152
When the FUCK are we gonna bite the bullet and do what needs to be done it’s getting ridiculous at this point

>>16830995
What the fuck are you even paying taxes for in the US? You get taxed harder than anywhere else. Seriously where does the value come from. At least here in Australia you get a breakdown of how your tax money got distributed. I pay about $680 a year in Medicare from my income tax. Small fee to know I won't be fucked if I break a leg. How does anyone actually defend lack of free health cover when you pay so much money each year.

>>16831204

I propose funding the doctors by selling the organs of people who don't work, it is far more cost effective than taxation and basically the same thing

>>16831273
>>16831273
>>16831273
>>16831273
>>16831273
This.

>>16831457

And who would work in these magic government hospitals for slave wages? Not any good doctors. You end up with cuban quality hospitals, big rooms where people wait to die as there is no one competent there to do anything useful.

>>16832596

Ddt has existed for ages but was banned because it worked which doesn't help the population control people

>>16833010
Kek.

>>16832757

Patent law mostly. It takes very little to create cheaper versions of most existing medications apparently from what pharmacists have told me. Except of course stuff like insulin which has to be grown.

>>16833010

We wish it was only 50%

>>16833042

Gee it's like nations like Australia and Japan have somewhat functional social healthcare due to not having huge numbers of foreigners cluttering the system

>>16831045
get off my board commie

>>16833190
>How does anyone actually defend lack of free health cover when you pay so much money each year.
Those who can pay get top of the line healthcare that you won't find in Australia.

>>16833293
>not having huge numbers of foreigners cluttering the system
All Australia has are foreigners

>>16832677
This you dumb goyim.

>>16831236
sorry my burger brother but it's your insurance companies driving those prices up to clown world levels. As a yuro I can get pleb tier healthcare that isn't too bad for free (admittedly getting worse with migrant influx) or pay like €80 / month for insurance that covers EVERYTHING over €200 and even allows me to claim back 30% on things like physio visits. this is standard. how healthcare ever got the way it did in the US boggles the mind. healthy workers=healthy country. unless your govt. doesn't care about the workers anymore...

>>16831009
>>16831366
What the hell $200 per month? That is like all my taxes we get free healthcare

>his healthcare isn't free

>>16833348
kek

>>16833042
Only because we get taxed like a motherfucker

>>16830995
Mutts are so fuckin cucked.
TONNES of mutts on here advocate not having insurance/having the minimum, to arrogant to see how they're getting fucked.
>>16833382
THIS, we paid $1500/m as a family 10 years ago, $200 is FUCK ALL coverage! like 50k MAX aka 1 broken leg

>>16833190
you obviously dont know anything about America, why would you comment? If you cant afford healthcare in America its literally free. Also American taxes are low compared to Canada and Europe, like youre dumb as fuck lmao

>>16834266
We pay less than that in taxes and we get everything covered. Ambulance, food in the hospital, doctor appointments, even medicine. Don't have to pay anything more than like a $20 processing fee if something happens.

>>16834274
Americans pay more in taxes towards healthcare than most of Europe. Because you have so many managers who want profits. We only need to pay doctors, nurses and janitors.

>>16830995
American healthcare is a scam

>>16832655
The best things in life are free

>>16834284
I know, Mutts are so fuckin cucked they actually support their tard health 'care'. I've got some propper scary stories in regards to Mutt care. Such a brainwashed nation.

>>16830995
uhhh isn't this trumps fault you dumb retard?

Healthcare shouldn't be free, it should be cheap. We had functioning healthcare system a half century ago, the only thing that changed is more welfare and more taxes and more rules.