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people are taking precautions so it doesnt get any worse
you brainlets really aren't satisfied until everyone is infected or dead

>>17776148
cringe opinion

>>17776148
>130k have recovered
Absolute retard. Only 70k are closed, 60k people still have coronavirus and they're treating it, and they can get worse

>>17776148
>Doubting the power of meme magic in this day and age.

Normiebook advice about stocking up on toilet roll has resulted in cases of people trying to sell single rolls for hundreds of dollars. The nature of modern communications means when the mob latches onto an idea, they're going to go wild with it.

>>17776148
>global economy collapses due to decades of irresponsible central banking to bail out and give favors to corrupt banksters, politicians, and corporations
>they get the media to push the agenda that this somehow happens due to a virus
>people actually believe this because 99.9999% of people are brain damaged morons
FTFY

>>17776148
Fucking Joe shot up a school and killed twenty kids, Donnie has killed only 2 so there's no need to worry about him.

Yeah and tuberculosis has spread across the entire world in a couple of months, causing catasphrophic breakdowns in health service capacity. Right.

>>17776148
Spotted the dumb low iq polcel

Corona chan will free us from boomer oppression! Zoom zoom

>>17776326
absolutely brainlet analogy.

>>17776148
Imagine thinking 1.3MM/year is anything for a virus that has existed for hundreds of years compared to something that has existed for 4 months and is on trajectory to infect over 1 billion people this year. Imagine being as stupid as that guy and OP.

issue here isn't the death, its health systems getting truly fucked up for a big period of time.

>doesn't understand exponential growth
>doesn't understand that this is only the beginning
>doesn't understand that first world countries have treatments for tuberculosis while there is no specific treatment for sars-cov2 currently
>Doesn't understand that tuberculosis being treated has a much much lower R0 than sars-cov2

>>17776392
>something that has existed for 4 months
>implying we don't have this virus circulating for hundred of years but just came out as a "new" virus thanks to new chinese DNA analysis on viruses.
10 years ago this would have been a cold

>>17776394
This. It's less about the virus itself but more about how the nations are absolutely fucking up in dealing with the virus that's causing all this panic.

people don't "recover" from this virus. their lungs are irreparably damaged forever.

In February I predicted it'd be impossible to ignore by April 1.
swine flu had 60 days to kill 1000 people.
Wu-Chan has killed 4000 in 60 days.

Now realize 10% of infected (swine flu infected 1 billion) will get severe symptoms, even if they survive. this is way worse than swine flu, even if its not the end of the world.

It's an orchestrated panic, totally undeserved

TB can be treated with antibiotics.

There is no cure for Covid-19.
This is the difference, not understanding this, and also not understanding that its spread has only been slowed by draconian measures in China, as well as unprecedented measures in the west such as cancelling major gatherings / events / sports leagues makes this quite serious and it shouldn't be understated by using these shitty strawman arguments like "flu killed more!" or "TB kills millions!"

It's just a complete false equivalency.

>>17776250
>th-they'll get worse
>you'll see!
>I totally DIDNT panics sell
>this is the apocalypse

At january there were people claiming there was already 30k deaths. Theres also an study saying there were 100k just on wuhan. If you still believe China numbers you're a retarded

>>17776148

That isn't true though. Of resolved cases the fatality to recovery ratio is a bit below 8%.

Why the fuck do idiots think they are smarter than everyone else?

>>17776148
you're an illiterate retard lol and so is everyone else HURR DURR ITS JUST THE FLU

We are having to stop surgeries at my hospital so we can use them as makeshift ICUs because there are not enough rooms or ventilators. And I'm at a level one trauma center. You retards honestly think the fucking NCAA NBA all flights and governments would shit down losing billions if there was not legitimate reason to do so

>>17776148
TB is exclusively a 3rd word disease.
A billion shitskins could die of TB and the market wouldn't notice.

>>17776632

This... Its literally fucking nothing. Highly infectious mild coof syndrome. OH NO

cough cough

>people acting haughty and like everyone around them is an idiot because they don't understand exponential risk
>they keep doing it even as the very real effects are right in front of their eyes
God I hate """educated""" people.

Retarded thread even by biz standards

Its simply fear of the unknown. Human nature. Tubercolosis is known, even though it kills far more than meme flu virus ever will.

Trump was unironically right to downplay it, but human nature fears what is new and unknown.

>>17776148
crazy how this is being inflated, pic related.
Nobody bat an eye at the fucking swine flu and it absolutely rampaged through the US compared to corona.

And that's without even bringing up the regular flu.
61k deaths in the US alone from the regular previous winter season.

>>17776148
test

>>17776630
>There is no cure for Covid-19.

Its a flu strain. There is no cure for flu, because body fights it off on its own.

>>17777579

22,469/60,000,000 = 0.00037 = .04 % death rate

11/164 = 0.067 = 6.7 % death rate

This is the panicfag's point.

They always fail to mention that everyone dying is over 70 or an overweight smoker. It's literally nothing but not because of these numbers.

>>17777995
Almost nobody's getting tested for corona though.
Those numbers are worthless.

>>17776521
Post source other than your ass

>>17776148
>what is travel ban

>>17778031
>>17777995
>>17777579
It’s all because of the kike media just to bring down Trump admin. I can’t wait until the summer so all these retarded boomers pump all of our bags

>>17778031

Kind of agree... It's mostly just doomers deriving a single point of data like I just did and panicking. They have no idea how trend projection works or the inherent differences between statistical models and reality.

>>17776148
Coronavirus has infected 7 billion people and killed 700 million but let's keep this in perspective. Over the entirety of history cancer has killed well over a billion.

>>17777585
..... Is this bait?

>>17778390
>being this delusional

>>17776521
Why does this lie keep getting repeated?

>people say over and over and over again that world economy would come to a hold at some point
>delay with QE and lower interests until forever
>some little chink coughs in Wuhan
>its the virus fault

>>17778477
ok panicker

>>17777579
That's what I've been saying
Swine flu was fucking huge, literally millions of infections and I don't remember any panic, it's not like shit was getting cancelled left and right

Am I missing something here?

Apparently 100k in ohio have it according to their roastie health expert

>>17776148
>lots of claims with no sources

>>17776148
Most people who die from tuberculosis had HIV, and carrying the bacteria that causes tuberculosis is not a big deal, most healthy people have it and it will never harm them unless they got inmunosupression. This static is lying through its teeths. Besides we have the cure to tuberculosis

>>17776483
Colds don't make people drop dead in the streets homie.

>>17778923
And swine flu was completely new as well.

>was about to invest my cash into stocks before all this happened
So glad I didn't do that when the economy crashes the value of my cash is gonna go up the best thing I could have right now is cash just gotta download my statements in the even my banks go under.

>>17776148
No let's shit our pants and buy some tp pee pee poo poo

>>17778923
Something big is happening anon, don't know what yet we will have to wait for disinfo to die down.

>>17778923
I wonder (((who))) is behind this panic?

Honestly I think a lot of people think that the virus was fabricated.
I think the panic was fabricated.
Literally a hard read on the market
Fed gives 500 bn yesterday as a signal to investment firms that they'll have liquidity.
Then people go and spend in the biggest panic buy yet.
Stocks bounce back
The ones that bounce highest are the safe havens for March that way, besides investment firms having guaranteed loss prevention, they also can take chances catching the unlimited print work's knives.

>nooooo not enough people are dead yet wtf stop trying to stop the spread ahhhhhh

>>17779147
oh yes, the classic "correlation implies causation"

>>17779594
Go buy some toilet papers then if you’re worried

>>17779688
you're retarded, I'm sorry.

>>17779076
Lmao there was a "swine flu" outbreak during season 1 of Saturday Night Live and they made a joke about it.

We don't have a vaccine for SARS, MERS or the common cold. Those are coronaviruses that have been around for a long time. The vaccine "we'll have in a few months" is a bluff to prevent panic. This virus is endemic now.

>It’s all because of the kike media just to bring down Trump admin. I can’t wait until the summer so all these retarded boomers pump all of our bags

LMAO bro let's do nothing and make this virus that spreads easily overwhelm our entire medical system and allow it to go seasonal. Dismiss anyone who brings up the mortality rate.

>>17776290
This. Fkn Jews got away with it again

>>17776148
>Inflate economy for 10 years
>Go into massive debt everywhere
>Debt on a scale we have never seen
>Everything goes tits up
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN!

Corona Chan just pushed us off a cliff we were already heading to.

>>17776521
This is true.

>>17779076
There was a panic during the Swine flu, but not to this level. I think there was a few school closures, but never a whole district over the Swine flu.

>>17776796
Dunning kreuger. They read a corona article reflecting their own opinions back at them and now they're virology experts.

>>17777579
This is a pretty good point. Wtf. I feel like an idiot.

>>17780394
This sounds good until you realize most of the fear comes from stupid shit like people saying 'there's 2 strains and one is super deadly' and 'it's like AIDS and SARS combined and it'll fuck you up for life' and 'if you catch it twice you die' and all kinds of bullshit people got off facebook and twitter with no sources.

I've listened to literal virology experts like Vincent Racaniello talk about this at length and address those issues directly and they're not even true. We're dealing with people who do shit like eat food without washing their hands, buy 100 toilet paper rolls, pay out the ass for masks and then take the same dirty mask and wear it around their neck or wear it twice in a row and they're the ones telling you and your friends that the sky is falling. Don't get me started on CNN and all those fucks sensationalizing these things while places like south korea and japan are much calmer about it despite getting hit long before the western world. It comes down to this: panic makes everything worse and right now people in the west are panicking like crazy instead of being smart and orderly.

Let me put it this way, if there's 100 toilet paper rolls and 50 people who want to buy toilet paper does it make sense for 10 people to buy 10 rolls each and cause distress to the other 90? Or does it make more sense to let everyone buy 2? In the west we are figuratively all trying to buy 10 rolls each and we're all distressing the fuck out of each other.

>>17776148
anyone who has taken at least 1 biology class and learned about the subject of diseases knows how absolutely retarded this tweet is

>>17778271
In Italy (far more reliable than chink numbers ) the death rate (number of dead of oh total cases) is 7.5% which is close to SARS

>>17777579
why are you comparing a dataset for a virus that lasted for its entire run to a dataset of a virus that has yet to reach even its apex in the US? This is just stupid, at least wait until this whole thing blows over

>>17776148
>Recovered
Blatant lie
Not dead is not the same as recovered , majority of cases are in progress

>>17776197
This, honestly.
I'm not even tinfoil-hat levels of paranoid, but it's getting frustrating when everyone's plan for how to deal with an emergency is
>Lol it's not a big deal yet so you should only take it seriously once it becomes a serious problem and we're stuck in the middle of it with nothing prepared

this is the take

>>17781517
fucking this, it gets so tiresome
>don't prepare beforehand, just wait in line like everyone else will when it gets into your area and possibly get it!
what is even the point of saying that shit?

>>17780902
Panic here is not even hard enough that Im allowed to do home office. Theres room for more.

>>17776148
>135,000 worldwide
that'd be accurate if we had enough testing kits to go around. Basically at this point 90% tests are coming back positive and we can't make enough of them fast enough. We aren't even testing people who've come in contact with confirmed COVID patients because that's how bad the shortage is.

>>17781297
>western kike media
>far more reliable than chink numbers
I'd rather believe the chinks than the kikes desu

>>17781611

Being a retard who thinks he's smarter than everybody just because he's a contrarian

>>17778271
you fucking kike, sars is the severe stadium of the coronavirus.

>>17778271
>less than two months vs eight full months
lmfao read your own fucking graph you dumb nigger

>>17781611
I just want toilet paper, man. Why the fuck are people buying toilet paper en masse, but the shelves are full of bottled water and canned food? My local stores are completely empty.

>>17776148
95% of those deaths are in India, Indonesia, Africa, or Pakistan

>>17776148
So why did China shut itself down?

>>17781958
Becaise they released the virus

>>17781297
Italy claiming every death due to corona for government assistance

>>17781636
Yeah it depends on where you are, like where I am there's barely any precautions but I know as soon as it hits us panic will set in hard and people are gonna get fucked. People like to go from 0 from 100 instead of taking the easiest precautions first, things like working from home, limiting travel, allowing kids to do classes at home if possible (before reaching the point where you absolutely have to close schools).

We won't take the easy precautions first but we'd rather go out and try to fit 100 toilet paper rolls in a shopping cart. This whole event really killed my faith in humanity.

>>17777579
>>17778923
I don't remember anyone ever getting swine flu. And I've never known anybody to ever die from normal flu. Are they just messing with me?

>>17776282
^this
This is just as much psych warfare as it is biological

>>17776148
Those numbers definitely arent correct retard

>>17781897
time to learn how to use the 3 shells I guess

>130,900 have recovered
>check the actual numbers
>50% off
always always double check information published by right wing semites not only that but we are working with official ccp approved corona numbers it might as well be 300,000 infected

>>17782280
this

>>17784241
based and shellpilled

>>17776148
It was made into a bigger deal because the kikes wanted Trump to have a katrina. It is really nothing.
>+9%

20% of all pops die without hospital treatment, spreads super quickly, no unlimited hospital beds. this shit will wreck even more.

>It was made into a bigger deal because the kikes wanted Trump to have a katrina. It is really nothing.

>>17778117
The "severe" and Critical cases will probably have long term lung damage, SARS-CoV1 left people with long term damage. http://www.ijcem.com/files/ijcem0074733.pdf

Mild cases will mostly fully recover, though it can take 6 months to fully recover from pneumonia, which is counted as a "mild" symptom.

>>17784519
Exhibit A.

>>17784959
>"In summary, this study revealed that a consid-erable proportion of patients with a history of SARS coronavirus-associated pneumonia could recover fully from their critical illness to a normal healthy status. Results suggest that complete recovery is possible".

>>17777579
swine flu killed around 3k in the us during its entire run you nigger, corona is way worse

Does anyone have that 3 March IQ meme?

>>17784519
Trump already had a Katrina, anon.
He threw rolls of paper towels at it.

>>17785569
Cope.

>>17781756
So many of this person, on the edge right now.

coronavirus is an empty bun
2 dead 6000000 recovered

>>17781897
use your hands

Don't mind me
>>17777777

>>17776197
>brainlets

>>17776148
>corona virus only a few weeks old
>hur dur this other thing that's been around for years has killed more

how can people be this fucking retarded?

>>17776148
>Paul Joseph Watson retweeted this

Ok faggot, kys

Reminder 99% of virgin reasoners are complete happeningfags who are only in denial in this one case (an actual happening) because their geriatric boomer of choice is in office, if the geriatric boomer with a vagina were in office right now they'd be predicting 7 billion dead and a new stone age

>>17779147
Persian shills that it's a flu as they bulldoze corpses into mass graves. Sad!

>>17778271
the absolute state of /pol/tards. repent

>>17776148
>falling for the "it's just a flu" meme

>>17777579
because this flu is 1000x worse than the swine flu and this flu hasn't run it's course so comparing numbers is ridiculous. everyone in the know is freaking the fuck out quietly over this

>>17785917

>>17776148
>>17776632

The issue here is twofold
>it kills most old people it comes into contact with
>the symptoms are treatable
>when untreated, they become a lot more lethal
>hospitals already don't have the capacity to deal with large numbers of infected
>the hospital staff will get infected too, further reducing capacity

So yes, it is basically a more infectious and dangerous flu but the real danger is the panics it will cause, the disruption of supply lines and the deaths that will occur when there are large numbers of untreated people.

>>17786143
>i know because ive read it online

hurr durr

>>17778271
>not comparing the data to the same timeframe of the viruses
are you even trying?

>>17786002
kek

>>17786173
So things that are online are automatically an invalid source?

>>17786143
>0.7% mortality in south korea with 10k cases
wow scary

>>17786245
>ignoring italy
>ignoring china
all problems fix themselves when you are in denial I guess.

>>17786173
Scientists present evidence with sources

https://institutefordiseasemodeling.github.io/COVID-public/reports/Working%20paper%20%E2%80%93%20model-based%20estimates%20of%20COVID-19%20burden%20in%20King%20and%20Snohomish%20counties%20through%20April%207.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Zmjmtx-NXUbw83dgjNfZvgHGLJKBqLPP2OfWcMNfj8ZD9a4s2KgOJLME

>>17786273

There are confounding factors there, amount of tested people matters. Those with mild symptoms basically experience a cold and that's 50% of the population.

The best controlled test case was the cruise where researchers concluded a 0.5% mortality rate, with n=700 infected and monitored.

>>17781897

Buy it from a scalper

>>17776148
This guy doesn't have a blue check mark I can't trust.

>>17786363
there were 7 out of 696 confirmed deaths so around ~1% as of now, and around 40% of the infected still haven't recovered.

>>17784285

But there's only unexplained spikes in the number of heart failures, pneumonia and other breathing problems here in China. No corona virus here.

>>17786273
bunch of faggot cheek kissing boomers. they literally hugged and kissed chinese with the virus. they're literally giving corona the blame for every death over there.
The cruise ship and south korea is a lot more reliable. they're testing 20k people a day and doing the most out of any country.

>>17786431

Adjusted for age it's more like 0.5%, the median age of the cruise was 58, it's more like 40 in the normal human population, and all of the deaths so far have been people over 70.

It's the most comprehensive case so far since everyone on the ship got tested and should be the authoritative reference. In other places only people with serious symptoms are showing up to get tested and treated.

>>17778923

Corona permanently cripples a large portion of the people that it doesn't outright kill.

>>17782467
Ironically one ofy best friends for swine flu after a weekend where we spent alot of time chilling out. Never got it myself

>>17781897
>but the shelves are full of bottled water and canned food?
soup aisles are decimated here

>>17779147
What’s with this sandnigger and his fake stats? Swine flu did not have that high of a mortality rate and Ebola had a much higher mortality rate as well.

>>17776630
Oh my God (YHWH), i'm scared, help me, HELP ME!

>it's just TB, bro

>>17786490
There's a chance that you'll survive with permanently nuked lungs.
I'm a suicidal chain smoker and so don't really give a shot, but this basic attention tuberculosis is definitely worse than ye olde flu.

>>17788440
What is the source for this disgusting piece of shit webm?

I want it to collapse, don't care about why it happens

https://www.bitchute.com/video/502FxpfAEhUp/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/502FxpfAEhUp/

>>17788440
Drunk chink throwing up chocolate cake

>>17788440
hot

>>17788765
KEK based

>>17778031
just as nobody gets tested for any other thing ever. i never got tested for influenza. they just assumed i have it if i bothered to see a doctor because i wanted to skip school.

>>17776148
>130,900 have recovered
FAKE NEWS

>>17776148
TB only affects shithole countries. You are literally banned from entering the US if you are even suspected of having TB