/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17891716
>That tweet

Oy Vei's were heard around the world.

Fuck niggers, fuck trannies, fuck JANNIES, and FUCK TRIPFAGS

>be brainlet buying options
>have no concept of IV or anything else deriving the price of options
>lose money on puts despite stock going down overall
>blame everyone but your own ignorance

first for fuck tripfags

Futures red as fuck. We're going strait down again.

Oilbros, UWT or OILU?

>>17891745
There's no way it's real, r-right?

Where are we going to bounce for good? Will my 100 SPY 200 puts make me a millionaire? I hope so. If only I had a Smooth Penis Indicator to help me along the way.

Chance of FTSE not going up much in the next two days?

Can someone explain VIX to me?

>>17891755
I thought they were green a minute ago and my puts were in trouble. Seems like it will bounce around all night again.

>>17891763
brent ponzi isnt done dumping

>>17891716
unemployment haven't started yet guys. im bear as fuck for months

>>17891716
Who else /beatingtheS&P/ here?

>>17891764
No, but this one is. I'm almost certain he means you know who...

>>17891781
Google it you retarded newfaggot

WHY FUTURES ARE RED WHERES THE PUMP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>17891764
Not real. OP a fag as usual.

recommend me some good buys

currently thinking xom and cop

any others?

Just got approved for basic options.
How do I use them?

>>17891781
Buy low sell high.

>>17891745
If he could just retweet that again, I could go ahead and retire a billionaire.

see >>17891769

>>17891806
royal dutch, norilsk nickel, gazprom, rosneft,

>>17891781
> VIX is a benchmark index designed specifically to track S&P 500 volatility. Most investors familiar with the VIX commonly refer to it as the “fear gauge,” because it has become a proxy for market volatility

cmon anon

We back? We hit the bottom and ready to moon?

I'm gonna ride my 2k on SPXU/SQQQ straight to 0.

Odds = Opens red
Even = Opens green
0 = Crab Rave

Could we just have an enormous pump or go back in time so I can go back and buy SPY 245 puts when they were like $1 each? That would be great.

>>17891800
In your imagination. No bulls. Only bears now ;-)

>>17891716
uhhh.. bullbros we ain't crabbing positive anymore

WHY ARE FUTURES RED

>>17891839
oh... yeah...

>>17891800
>WHERES THE PUMP
it was yesterday, did you miss it?

>>17891839
accurate

Did the market collapse again? what happened?

>>17891806
I'm buying more CVE tomorrow because the price looks like bullshit. No reason for it to be so low.

SAVANON TELL ME WHATS GOING ON ALREADY

>Less than 1% red after almost an hour
Bullbros we have this, don't worry.

6 keys to success during this Pandemic.

1. Listen to and follow the directions of your state and local authorities. Sell all your stocks and buy SQQQ.

2. If you feel sick, stay home. Do not go to work. Sell all your stocks and buy SQQQ.

3. If your children are sick, keep them at home. Contact your broker, sell all their stocks and buy SQQQ.

4. If someone in your household has tested positive for the Coronavirus, keep the entire household at home. Sell all your stocks and buy SQQQ.

5. If you are an older American, stay home and away from other people. Sell all your bonds and buy SQQQ.

6. If you are a person with a serious underlying health condition—such as homosexuality or the aids—do us all a favor, and kill your self.

>>17891865
Donnie made his daily promises and the bulls bought it this time

>>17891781
Is the spook index

>>17891865
market will continue to do weird things until the VIX chart returns to its natural state

>>17891716
SELL SELL SELL!!!!!!!!!

>>17891824
Oh no....

>Kevin Durant tests positive for The Rona
OH NO NO NO

$1.3T in Stimulus

WE BULL MARKET NOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEoWFd3UGZY

>>17891899
who?

>>17891880
Tell me I'm gas.

>"""working from home"""
>do 3 hours of work to keep up with brainlet peers
>spend 5 hours shitposting, trading options and stocks
anyone else devilish?

Bet you're all feeling pretty stupid about your doommongering yesterday. Obvious now that it's literally nothing and will blow over in a few months

>>17891910
millionaire Basketball player

>>17891901
priced in

OH NO NO NO BULL BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>17891912
You're gas.

>>17891910
the kid from Home Alone I think

>>17891880
>6. If you are a person with a serious underlying health condition—such as homosexuality or the aids—do us all a favor, and kill your self.
woah woah woah.... shouldn't they sell all their stocks and go into SQQQ first?

>>17891917
Yes but I lost $100 bucks.

Banks loan money to already indebted companies
Banks don’t loan from deposits they instead use FED money
Banks make a profit from said lending
But businesses never do pay their loans
What are banks for? Couldn’t the fed just buy securities instead?

>>17891917
I'm military and they're dragging their heals on having us stay home unless we're on duty, but we also have nothing to do so I've been doing stock research and trading from my work desk. Only difference is I can't shitpost here while I do it.

Buy ?

<mfw BullBro's right now

OH OH OH AH AH AH AH AH

>>17891917
i work from home 4 days a week anyways so i usually stay pretty productive. but yesterday i cracked beers at noon with a buddy, cancelled all my meetings and watched in awe

>>17891917
I'm doing literally the same thing. It doesn't help that they currently have me doing a bunch of documentation bullshit.

I've got one monitor with work stuff and the other with SMG.

>>17891947
thats why we must all move to crypto and p2p lending aswell as b2b lending

>>17891750
>tfw i got out of the stock market during last years dip because i bought a call option on a random ETF with absolutely 0 liquidity
>every time i try to sell the price changed because i was the only one trying to trade the fucking thing

If only I stayed. If only I stayed and learned. I could have shorted SPY to its death.

>>17891781
Kirino is cute. CUTE!

>>17891716
>muh DOW
>muh SPX
Literally who cares about these boomer indices? NASDAQ penny biomemes are the only way to have fun in the stock market, and are /smg/'s official securities. And here's the best part, they're virus proof.
>not affected by lockdowns
>can moon out of nowhere due to announcing ways to help combat Coronavirus
But here's the best part. They're recession proof.
>they already lose millions of dollars a year
>not dependent upon the public
>price manipulated
That's not all. Here's the best part. The virus may actually be BULLISH. Post yfw ONTX announces readout of the Phase 3 INSPIRE trial early due to an unexpected rise in required death events due to COVID-19, FDA announces fast track Rigosertib approval a month later, then BMY (who is doing a combo study with their azacitidine (which was acquired when they bought out Celgene) and ONTX oral Rigosertib) buys them out at $10 a share. Get ready for the best part.
>ONTX only $.30
>SNSS only $.52
There has never been a better time to buy. Post your rares and share leads with other future white millionaires.

>Bearkuks getting cocky
Bullbros we're back, the Future is ours again.

>>17891935
No the urgency that they remove them self from society is too important. They don't have time to go into SQQQ.

>>17891917
same
supposed to work from home, smoked and traded instead
don't even care tbqh

>>17891892
Fucking hue monkeys

>>17891976
how exactly are they bullish at -1% ?

>>17891920
This.

GUSH bros...I don't feel so good...

>>17891747
Unbelievably, unimaginably, incredibly based

We finally live in an era where we're gonna get free shit no matter who wins the presidency. Amazing

>futures only down 1%
I NEED MORE RED

Blood bath confirmed, pack it up boys

>>17891796
HE
MEANS
THE
KIKES
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>17891931
Braaaaaaaaaap

I have a feeling that down the road this Chinese virus is going to hurt China's chances of becoming the world's #1 economy. They'll still get some work, but a lot of manufacturing is going to be done domestically just so the company can hold more control over their shekel makers.

>>17891917
During work hours for the past two months, I've been at home shorting the S&P, but my office only closed last week.

>>17891990
Kek

>>17891750
But the VIX is at ATHs. There's no way to dodge the high IV

The market can still recover right? I dont want to lose my job.
My puts are safe but please don't let me lose my job.

>we fight a hidden enemy
>futures down .88

Is it time?

>>17892035
It better be, I lost a couple years of my life averaging down on SQQQ all day right up to the close.

bearbro reporting in, so, whats the realistic bottom ? 220 -230 ?

>>17892039
This shit is going to be swept under the rug. Doesn't matter how many die. Stocks matter more.

>>17892022
why are you still here avatarfag?
you've been completely blown the fuck out like 3 weeks in a row
get out of here

Broader Market:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdK-4TAnQU

"Stocks higher after worst drop since 87"

Broker 688:

>Whatever it is you want to call it it isn't sustainable

>It's starting to feel a lot like

>Were going from Stimulus packages to Bail outs

>From lowering interest rates to a booster to a cushion to a market that is failing.

>>17891917
I day trade from not office of the company I actually work for it's pretty sweet. Oh and I also shitpost while I'm doing it

>>17892060
DOW 20k, has already been bounced off twice, if it tests a third time that will determine the rest of the month

>>17892056
>I dont want to lose my job

Anon I..I'm sorry.
But don't worry, the government is always there for you.

>>17892035
How? YM1 on tradingview barely budged and btc is slowly mooning

>>17892072
>A lot like 2008**

>>17892057
Kek same fren

>>17892056
All the tourism related jobs will be totally fucked.

B-Bullbros.... savy...... ....pendy.....?

Watch me go to sleep happy that futures are negative and end up with a 4% day tomorrow and a loss on SQQQ because of course thats what I would do.

>>17891920
It's going to keep going down for months. We're going to be digging a deeper whole before we start digging out. Might as well just get some gains on the down side while the getting is good.

>>17892025
Split coming to GUSH, UWT probably too.

>>17892039
My gut feeling from all of this is bullish on China. Bearish on the West

DIS will be fine. Sure in the short term profits may take a dive and some films will get pushed back getting released (or not as I'll explain later). But in these times of self isolation there in lays profit opportunity in the form of Disney+ subs skyrocketing cause people get bored as hell or kiddies need calming down cause you know school is closed. The films Dis has in the can already but not released they could always toss out on the Disney+ service as a lure to get people to sign up. That's what comcast is doing. Dis ain't out nothing and hell they may even make more cause they're cutting out the movie theater middlemen. Also be glad the stock price is down, your Divvy payout's will get you more share for your buck. (or hell buy more outright)

>>17892076
1000 dollars is not going to make me keep paying my rent in New York. Its doomed to fail with it being only two weeks.

>>17892060

170 long term. 235 short term.

The congress is going to moon the fuck out of the market with BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR money but in a few months it won't matter none at all.

FUCK MY LIFE

>>17892060
I bought 27 March puts at 190 and 185. I don't expect them to actually be in the money, but they should triple in value when SPY actually does hit 220 sometime this week.

>>17892072
Is that the dow hat guy?

Is hyperinflation a possibility?

>>17892072
This man is incredibly JUST'd.

>>17892075
It already went through it today for a tiny moment. That bottom is as good as broken.
Real test will be at 15k. Going to take a little while to get there though.

go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

it'd be really fucking cool if we got A FUCKING BOUNCE IN OIL!!!! FUCK!!!

>>17892107

Bob Iger got out because he knew what was coming.

>>17892075
Why though?

>>17892140
Oil isn't going to get a v-shaped recovery or even a u-shaped recovery. It's just kinda do the L thing and stay this low forever.

Just follow jim Cramer he is the stock guru

>>17891920
>We have seen the market fluctiate more rapidly than has ever been seen in history and we are in totally uncharted waters

>lol it is nothingburger.

>>17892141
>he knew what was coming.
how?

:^)

>>17892140
Don't tell me you bought GUSH

>>17892140
LMAO just keep accumulating man. $20 oil incoming.

>meme numbers barely down 1%
it's over bobos, there needs to be some really bad news tonight or tomorrow morning otherwise tomorrow will be a repeat of today

>>17892117
170 is a safe bet

>>17892180
you bulls can have a few single digit days while I count my shekels

>>17892165
Disagree. Coronavirus panic is going to end, Saudi/Russians will eventually stop fighting. Crude goes back to normal.

>>17892108
It should really be adjusted to cost of living. I'm sick of subsidizing unproductive flyover state losers.

>>17892171

Because it had already exploded in China, and Jews have old school networks in China going back to the Communist revolution days in the 1930s.

>loaded up on $26 sqqq calls right before close

I can't be the only one right?

>retarded tripfag bought GUSH and is probably down 70%
not surprised at all

>>17892221
Do you have any idea how much kvetching that would cause over the rich getting paid more by uneducated retards?

>>17891975
I've got $20 in Antibe and $10 in SNSS just in case one of them moon. If not, who cares, it's $30.

>>17891807
prepare to lose all of your money initially while learning. buy cheap futures like GLD etc.. SPY is too expensive to start with unless you want to lose min ~1.2K

>>17891920
no I called the pullback perfectly and I'm calling a red opening tomorrow.

>>17892118
kek

>As of February 12, 2020, there was $1.75 trillion worth of Federal Reserve notes in circulation
What the fuck anons, is Trump seriously planning to drop a trillion into circulation through those checks? Isn't that going to cause massive inflation? What the fuck am I missing here? WHAT THE FUCK ANONS
https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12773.htm

>>17891785
Same. We still have 1-2 quarters at least of negative growth. Thats plenty of drops still.

Bought my inverse leverage shit just before the Trump speech, missed the top. Goddamn, but still better than nothing i assume.

>>17892270
Didn't they already drop $1.5 trillion on the stock market?

>>17892173
no.. not gush

>>17892178
a small bounce on the way would be nice

>>17892171

They sure as hell didn't prepare for Corona, but they were getting ready to exit anyways.
It's not hard to see the market has been running on so much hot air for +10 years that anything could absolutely fuck it up in an instant and cause a huge depression.
Tons of CEOs have left this year, because no one wants to have a failing company under them. Not to mention they'd probably miss out on all kinds of bonuses.
Corona is just one thing among many that could have started the downfall of this unsustainable ponzi shit.

>>17891963
does this sound kind of homosexual to anyone? crack one open with my buddy and watch in awe...
>watch what? his dick?

>>17892180
Is this good or bad news
https://mobile.twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1240038303581102080

>>17892289
Yeah but those aren't in circulation. These new checks are going straight into the economy. How can it not cause 30% inflation on the spot right there and then? What am I missing here

Noob here. Is SQQQ viable for long term or just for day/margin traders?

>>17891716
Did a i ching reading today, asked if it was time to buy AMD.
-----
I Ching Hexagram 43
Guai (Determination)
---
Action: Breakthrough
---
Fear stalks its own reflection -

Remove the window dressing of the prison.
---
Line 1 Strength in the toes but not equal to the task = one makes a mistake. Changes to (28) Critical Mass. Your first attempts to change the situation may have been premature. You may be impatiently pushing forward when the time is not right to instigate action. There is more examination and preparation needed in this situation. To just push forward means you may bite off more than you can chew which leads to collapse. Proceed carefully.
Many people are saying its not over, but I think it's the time to buy tech stocks. There is more to fall, but tech is safe. That is the Breakthrough.

>>17892281
What did you get? How long do you plan on holding it?

>>17892307
Stay out of the market, retard. You will get rekt.

>>17892257
>prepare to lose all of your money
>Okay!

can't believe people still do this options shit lmao. the risky options stuff, i mean. im sure none of you faggots are doing covered calls.

>>17892307
long as in "a week or two during a rapid crash" yes

long as in "literally any other situation longer than a week" no

>>17892165
>russians and saudis will fight forever
Why does this seem unlikely?

>>17892281
Same, I learned my lesson, need to average down into that shit.

>>17891716
link to tweet? so many retweets to dig through if someone has it handy

>>17892037
ya.. too bad it's a joke and instead he is doing everything they want, even giving you a pathetic fraction of what they are stealing from you back so you *think* they are helping you while they are just drugging you so they can assrape you some more when you pass out.

>>17892312
so, AMD Puts?

>>17892343
Not real. OP = Fag.

>>17892330
Kys faggot
There are plenty of reasonably safe plays
Sucks to suck

>>17892039
It did huge damage to their image that was so carefuly created in the media. They always presented themselves as high tech city people. The reality was laid bare during the pandemic. I think using "will" is unfortunate, because it already hurt their chances, and I don't think they'll ever return to 100%. We might see a lot of investment in south-east asia. Regions that dealt with the crisis better than china, because it could potentially mean they'll deal better with the next one, making it safer for business to flourish. China fucked up colossally.

kek, gradually bagged 12,400 shares of ONTX. I placed my sell order today. Good for 60 days. All that's left is to wait for the glorious news to come to light. $14,800+ is my payoff.

everyone itt got their cheap puts today, right? we have a bloodred week ahead of us and you shouldn't be missing out

>>17892354
Aw I just saw it and made me lose my shit

>>17892349
AMD Calls, but ITM for now

Any redpilled non-/pol/ youtubes of the financial system?

>>17892366
Yes

>>17892270
Checks are not Federal Reserve notes. Learn to fractional reserve banking already.

>>17891716
Boom goes the dynamite:

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/fed-launches-primary-dealer-credit-facility-which-will-accept-stocks-collateral

Eligible Collateral
•

Collateral eligible for pledge under the PDCF includes all collateral eligible for pledge in open market operations (OMO);
1
plus investment grade corporate debtsecurities, international agency securities, commercial paper, municipal securities,mortgage-backed securities, and asset-backed securities;
2
plus equity securities.
3
Foreign currency-denominated securities are not eligible for pledge under the PDCFat this time.

>>17892270
Look up Modern Monetary theory.

Basically, yes, so, what they do is work under the assumption that max inflation is already reached and slowly push the economy to it when its needed.

>>17892307

It's viable so long as the NASDAQ 100 continues to go down.

Just the same way that TQQQ was viable as long as the NASDAQ 100 went up.

>>17892372
Trump still has a based tweet pinned though.

>>17892060
DJI: 15k
SPY: 180ish
BITCON: $1200

>>17892374
ben felix, macrovoices

>>17892104
>bullish on China
set max on their charts

the economy can recover from -33% right....right ?

>>17892377
Wont that still inflate the economy though? Just giving people money?

>>17892165
oil will never recover from this.. when people start using transportation again commies will force them to go "green"

>>17892359
Lmao literally nobody thinks chinks are high tech. They’re fucking savages who eat stupid shit like rotten eggs and pangolins and walk by a baby in the street and watch it get ran over lol

We've hit 2% bros

Hawaii has only tested 7 people. All 7 tested positive.

>>17892312
>Many people are saying its not over, but I think it's the time to buy tech stocks. There is more to fall, but tech is safe. That is the Breakthrough.
Yes

see:
>>17892385
>>17892386
>>17892202

>>17892393
Blows my mind he would pin that. He's not wrong but everyone who sees that is just going to think he's a tinfoil hat retard.

>>17892306
>How can it not cause 30% inflation on the spot right there and then? What am I missing here
You're missing the massive slowdown in velocity of money from all the people staying home simultaneously not earning money and not spending it. The free $1000 keeps people from missing rent payments and able to afford food, which in turn prevents evictions and food riots. Liquor stores will do very well, though, as alcoholics buy enough booze in one go to kill themselves.

>>17892366
Yep! Knew this pump was fake and gay so loaded up near the end. All SPY puts of various strikes and expire dates.

this is all i have left

Should we be panicking now?

do neets get the 1k commiedollar or do you need to be a wageslave to qualify

>>17892202
demand will never recover

>>17892391
Ah ok, so its good for holding during bear periods.

>>17892270
turns out 50 years of absolutely nothing and you end up with folk in charge who are clueless about how to run an economy

>>17892358
i know people who have made over a million and then lost over 2 million, you ain't special, kiddo. and the noobs who just got approved for options and asking what they should do are not looking for "reasonably safe", they're looking for get rich quick schemes and will probably lose everything.

it's like these kids don't realize you can straight up lose everything overnight. yeah if you know what you're doing that's fine, if you did all of the testing and have the experience and education and have a proven system that works that's great, but these kids don't. they just have stars in their eyes and it's going to get them (financially) killed.

Wait, I didn't monitor the market after noon, what happened?

>>17892377
>Checks are not Federal Reserve notes
What's the difference in this case? Not like people will sit on those checks, they will all be turned into cash that goes straight into businesses. How is this not going to inflate the amount of cash in circulation 30%

>>17892180
Not worried. NYC is about to shut down, factories across the country are about to shut down, mass testing results are coming. Just another bull trap

>>17892422
Where is the futures circuit breaker at?
Sub 20k even before the market opens.

>>17892312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LoryrTdGU8

Here is some more info if you want it.

>the world is at war with a hidden enemy!
What did he mean by this

>>17892452
Pump, Dump, Pump.

>>17892385
Wowwwww

I really thought they would wait to directly buy or otherwise manipulate stock prices

I thought they would wait and see again but they really will not risk seeing another circuit breaker day

If this is true then who the fuck would sell when you can put stock as collateral at current price and then never pay back your debt? Literally government giving banks the option to sell them their stocks

>>17892426
What are you talking about anon? If you increase the money in circulation by 30% surely you have 30% inflation. There's a limit to how far you can stretch reality

>>17892465
He meant exactly what you think he meant. I never stopped believing in punished Trump.

>>17892316
Inverse Nasdaq, my pool of choise is kinda limited because northern-europoor.
Not yet sure how long im gonna hold, if tomorrow is blood red maybe sell then, w8 for rebound and buy again.

>>17892377
oh like money injected into the system at zero reserve req won't cause price inflation as well as monetary expansion? what the fuck are you even trying to say?

>>17892393
Except thats about the virus and not jews

>>17892423
If W.Va was of any economic consequence, I'd go there and spread it myself. Would make great headlines for infections in all 50 states.

>>17892465
When one of his rich friends said he had a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand I called bullshit. Now I'm not so sure.

>>17892366
Meant to get cheap put but got greedy and bought right after open during the bear-trap

>>17892425
Show photo

>>17892491
>virus and not jews

There's a difference?

>>17892427
No man, stocks ain't going down anymore if this is true >>17892385

>>17891771
everyone's waiting for the whole thing to be over. nobody's actually buying. if it doesn't end within several weeks there will be a real, unironic happening

>>17892423
>Texas
This has to be a mistake, right? 57/57???

>>17892423
Ew stuck on an island with a bunch of sickies

>>17892366
I spent half my remaining cash, about $1000, on SPY and DIA puts. All I need is one big red day to get enough money to either buy more puts or buy more oil stocks.

>>17892461
5%

>>17892436
In a just world that would be the case but we live in hellworld that punishes those who work

>>17892508
Futures are down 2% dude

>>17891781
Thank you for this Kirino pic brother

>>17892503
Viruses require a host to reproduce, while Jews are able to usurp the host and establish their own communes of Jews jewing Jews

See: Israel

>>17892503
kek good point

>>17892413
fuck yes.. at zero fractional reserve requirement BANKS, not just the Fed have printing presses that run on free energy

>>17892446
you can tell he's from fucking plebbit because he called them safe "plays"

>>17892307
Do it and lose your ass so we all can laugh at you.

>>17892529
Wait till everyone realized govt will buy your stocks from you so you don't have to sell on the market

So when does tonight's fake and gay Fed pump start lads?

>>17891956
which casino owners was trump tight with? i might throw some money into their stonks

>>17892418
>they create 80% of all the technology in the world.
>nobody thinks chinks are high-tech

>>17892202
>normal
but we are at normal price
after 2003 there are only OPEC manipulations

schlomo did nothing wrong

No mercy bullfags hope you enjoyed it while it lasted, NOW BEND OVER

>>17892566
You mean they MANUFACTURE 80% of the tech. It's all designed by the west.

>>17892455
>Not like people will sit on those checks, they will all be turned into cash that goes straight into businesses. How is this not going to inflate the amount of cash in circulation 30%
Wow, you're actually more stupid than I thought. Seriously go read a book.

>>17892558
god damnit I fucking jinxed us

>>17892529
we're now in a world where it only matters if it is 4+% in either direction lol

>>17892566
>>17892576
this

>>17891876
We go with the market. Things are according to plan with SAVA, but GALT seems to be delaying again. It's quite a shame if DU does nothing during this pandemic, while everyone is getting lung fibrosis. The drug would have worked wonders. I am holding through though, no matter what.

>>17892517
That's the problem when you have limited tests. The only ones that get tested at the ones that are so serious that it's practically confirmed.

>>17892464
please go away with this fried rice magic of yours I feel like we've all had enough china for one lifetime this past couple of months

>>17892568
lol what is inflation?

>>17892550
Im not sure it means the government is buying from people. It means you can place shares as collateral for debt to meet ends. They did it 2008 it seems too so i dont think it will save anything or anybody.

>>17892413
Inflating prices of scarce goods =! inflating the economy

>>17892477
Do you know what velocity of money means? If you don't, search it on duckduckgo and educate yourself. It's not that complicated and directly answers your stupid question.

>>17892547
A kind anon helped me out. I'm staying away from leveraged stocks, you have fun.

>>17892571
NO, NO BOBO, NO!!!

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>>17892458


No

See:
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>>17892474

>free market economy
>government intervention
pick one

>>17892583
I am pretty stupid, anon, that's why I can here with a question. Apparently you can't answer it, too bad, please move on.

>>17891716
>where all the money went
Is he so retarded that he thinks stock valuation = actual money?

Post your fucking gains.

>>17892606
lol what are new oilfields discoveries and new tech advancements

>>17892611
The fuck, what do you think and economy is? LOL

>>17892531
Dou itashimashite

>>17892637
nvm, it was fake and gay

>>17892617
I do know what it means, but I still don't know how increasing the amount of money in circulation doesn't lead to inflation. Maybe you can explain it to me

Is it down yet? I need a 1% drop when I wake up in the morning.

nikkei opening red or green?

>>17892622
freedom aint free

>>17892257
>prepare to lose all of your money
I don't doubt you. Same was said about normal stocks when I started. And it more or less happened.

>>17892607
So a big bank could either take massive losses on unloading a stock position by selling to the market, or that bank could take out a loan equal to the stocks current price. If they don't pay it back, they don't get their collateral back.

If the market price is $100 but unloading all their shares would give them an average selling price of $50, then it's way better to just put them up as collateral for a "loan" of $100 per share and then never pay that loan back.

You don't care if they keep your shares. you just got $100 each instead of $50.

>>17892583
oh like one by Keynes? retard.

>>17892334
what could the US bribe the saudi's with to get them to knock it off? should i invest in lambos?

https://notrickszone.com/2018/11/20/wow-profound-if-true-russian-expert-believes-supply-of-hydrocarbon-fossil-fuels-virtually-infinite/

lmao

>>17892406
Of course, 30% is nothing. It'll blow over in 20 years.

>>17892674
have some faith, it won't drop that little

>>17892678
does it matter? they close red every day no matter how much yen the BOJ shits out

>>17892620
No anon, nothing is stopping this. It's too late.
Regardless of their Japan like policy to directly buy everything, this will fall and that's the signal there's no saving this market at all.

Seriously though if this falls tomorrow after policies like that, then that's pretty much game over no matter what they say or do from this point on.

>>17892646
Money is worthless without goods and services being produced. If you increase the money supply without increasing the amount of goods, you just raise prices. You can't print your way rich, you dumb Keynesian faggot.

>>17892713
>Go hard into SQQQ right before market closes
>Stimulus news drops
My heart says yes, but my brain says no.

>>17892374
I highly recommend this. https://youtu.be/iFDe5kUUyT0

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>>17892593
What about insider selling/buying or another info?

>>17892671
he can't.

>>17892583
nah you're absolutely retarded or don't understand the difference between monetary expansion(supply inflation) and price inflation(number at store go up). I think read the wrong (((book))) guy.

Fuck me I'm all in puts

I thought they wouldn't directly give cash in exchange for stocks before we've even seen most people take the virus seriously. Most still think it's a bad flu.

Fuck me

Well y'all niggas was schleepin for the last few days some mining stocks went up about 30%.
With all the PM demand materializing overnight there may be more to come.

>>17892671
THEORETICALLY, the amount of inflation depends on both the amount of currency in circulation AND on how fast that money changes hands. I = AV
Velocity (V) is going down because everyone is staying home, not working and not buying.
The government is hoping that by increasing A by sending everyone checks (which is NOT printing additional bank notes), that they can keep inflation from going negative. The checks do not increase the amount of bank notes in circulation because of fractional reserve lending.

That's as simple an explanation as there can be.

>work for boomer-tier company
>still can't work from home
>going to die because boomers can't into internet

>>17892088
Yep, dipped into margin quite a bit to make it happen but this AH action is looking good for SQQQ

>>17892751
stimulus was priced in today when they were talking about it during the press conference.

>>17891932

That's Karl Malone dumbass.

>>17892772
this.. where else can you go?

>>17892738
It's not falling enough tomorrow for your puts if you have any

Price floor = implied volatility is going straight down. Puts are gonna be worth a fraction what they were today.

There was high demand for puts as insurance in case the price falls.

Now banks get free puts from the fed. No need for them to buy ours.

>>17892488
god bless you fellow yurobear I'm considering doing the same. What platform are you using?

>>17892784
Based. Fuck this nazi technology. THIS IS AMERICA

>>17892796
That makes my SQQQ buy even more retarded.

>>17892741
Holy fuck this nigga is reatrded. Dude I don't even disagree with that you moron.

>>17892751
trump is trying to crush the virus beneath piles of money, let's see if it pays off

>panicfags BTFO again
They all must be manlets, because they never learn.

>>17892796
They didn't explain that the stimulus meant free puts for every bank.

They didn't explain that they would be setting a fucking price floor for stocks.

these threads make me sad that i'm a cowardly brainlet and cant into financial gainz

>>17892780
Yeah but they are also telling people not to go out. It's a catch 22 LOL

heLP

>>17892796
Today's rise was because the Fed/treasury put out a commercial paper lending facility wayy earlier than Wall Street expected.

Coronavirus spreading through GM & Ford factories as we speak, workers pissed, UAW on their ass. Factories will soon halt operations, cant believe some of you brainlets actually bought F when it dipped to $8

>>17892842
Just wait for another dip, retard.

>>17892767
>monetary expansion(supply inflation)
That's not what is being proposed as far as I understand it. The government is going to dispense money it basically already has or will borrow from the Federal Reserve.

$1000 per person in the US, even including minors, is only about $350B. That's almost pocket change compared to the federal budget.

>>17892857
imagine if teamsters (basically all of UPS) go on strike

FUCKING LOL

I can't believe /smg/ is dead bros...

>>17892852
>He bought at $31
Yikes

And so it has come to pass, you've missed out on getting his cheap ass. For the 2nd time I may add. You had the first bite at the apple in 2018 during the Dec Mega dip. Then you coulda had Him for under 30 dollars. Yesterday you coulda had Him for just a bit over 30. But today the opportunity has passed you by for maybe the last time. Cause these things just don't happen everyday you know. Tisk tisk, His fat Divvy woulda saved you in your time of need when your in your 60's. The 52 w high was damn near 40 a share you know with a yield still pegged at over 5.2%. So this week if the price should fall, repent and let Him save you while you still can! And if it don't? Well at least I tried to warn you before it was to late.

>>17892842
Accept your limitations. Just keep reading and watching stuff to understand it and slowly buy SPY or QQQ etfs to hold for next 10 years.

Holy shit they're coming at this from all angles

During the day they announce they're giving companies cheap loans to get them through

After the market closes they mention that they will *also* be setting a price floor for stocks, so you can't even exit your short position.

They don't just want to stop prices from falling, they want to wipe out everyone who is short so that the only people with money left are the people who were long

>>17892690
Wait, I don't understand... If stocks can be used as collateral the like you said you can effectively sell them by taking out a loan against them. Isn't this like the FED buying issueing puts on everything? It will incentivise buying but the economic situation doesn't actually change.

>>17892784
Same. Fucking old fucks need to retire instead of putting everyone else at risk because their lives amount to nothing except being indentured servants.

>>17892798
I just wonder what kind of volume smelters and shit work with. Would be dumb to assume that just because there's more demand their production will grow as well. I'm not well enough researched to say but maybe some are, or can be.

>>17892857
>buying at $8
It went to $2 during the recession.

>>17892855
That news came out post market

>>17892877
>teamsters
I should play some tropico again

>>17892845
Not really, as I explained in an earlier post, the money is intended for food and rent money for poorfags who aren't getting paid while they're staying home, to prevent evictions and food riots.

>>17892899

Well those would would short the future don't deserve mercy.

>>17892893
It'll trade at just above 20 before this is over just like in 2008. Snag it then.

>>17892764
My patience rewards me

>>17892167
Unironically he has called all of this shit and I hate that I didn’t listen. He never said explicitly “crash” but he might have his daughters held hostage or something if he did.

>>17892169
Is that boruto’s dad?

>>17892911
Hence, last night futures were up (which adds to todays) rally

>>17892816
Nordnet, it's not particularly good but i already had some money there so thats what i ended up using.

>>17892899
>they mention that they will *also* be setting a price floor for stocks
source?

>>17892927
Maybe a short isnt being negative on the future but a hedge in case i lose my job due to a recession i still have income from a put/short to live off.

>>17892899
Wait price floor? I've only been halfway paying attention the last couple of hours

>>17892900
Yes, that's exactly what they're fucking doing.

The economy is screwed but they want to maintain appearances

Fuck I'm so fucked

If I was wrong about the market conditions, fine

But I'm gonna lose everything because some fucker decided a failing economy is acceptable as long as they can maintain appearances

>>17892780
So it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem, people will one day go out again but that money will still be there.
I don't understand how checks in hand are not increasing the amount of money in circulation anon, sorry.
>NOT printing additional bank notes
When the fed gives the bank some money to put into their reserves, they don't increase money in circulation right. When it then gives a check to the public that the public can use to take that money from bank's reserves, how does that not increase the amount of money in circulation? I don't see how the amount of physical money matters if the amount written in you bank deposit increased.

>>17891716
Futures are down again. Enjoy the recession, boomers.

>>17892939
that's ichigo's cousin

>>17892900
I don't think this will stop retarded boomers at pension funds from panic selling. I don't think they're eligible for this, just financial banks like Goldman Sachs. It's probably to prevent credit illiquidity and bankruptcies and shit more than saving stock prices.

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>>17892295
Iger knew for the same reason Ajaypal Singh Banga of Mastercard knew. He stepped down the same damn day.

They were running massive international businesses. They had boots on the ground. They saw how bad this was getting and they wanted nothing to do with it.

They wanted to leave on top, and leave some poor schmuck to clean up the mess.

>>17892899
>setting a price floor for stocks
What fucking arrogance. Are they going to make it illegal to sell?

>>17892973
it's too soon and not enough to celebrate yet, we're in a period where the only thing that matters are circuit breakers lol

>>17891975
>my ancient oc that I havent seen in years
its like finding a lost child

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>>17892823
Inflating the economy implies growing the economy. You meant to say inflating the money supply, but you were too illiterate to write a coherent post.

>>17892603
>NOOOOOO NO MORE CHING CHING MAN NOOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO DIE YOU DID THIS WITH ITS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!

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>>17892954
They will accept stocks as collateral for a loan.

If a big bank with a shitload of stocks sees no bids without crashing the price, they can "loan" it to the government and then default on their loan.

Imagine the market price is currently $100 but you have so much to dump that you'll only get an avg of $50 per share if you sell it all.

So instead you "loan" it to the government in exchange for $100 per share and then you never pay back the loan and let the government keep the share.

You effectively just traded all your shares for $100 each instead of $50 each

>>17892766
Nothing at all. Yesterday someone was loading SAVA at 3.9 all day, so there's a chance we will see some filing this week. But I don't really care about these. At least I convinced myself that the SAVA drug is as good as it gets, because the herpes virus still seems to be the first cause of the misfolded flamin-a. Both in neurons and lymphocytes. What might actually happen, is that the latent virus is messing up chaperone proeteins. These in principle would repair the filamin-a in case it get's a wrong conformation due to mechanical stress or something going bad during creation. But in case of a latent viral infection, these chaperones exist to a lesser degree, thus less repair is done.

Apparently patient 1 in Italy is testing positive again, were all super fucked

https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/03/17/news/torino_di_nuovo_positivo_al_test_il_paziente_1_dichiarato_guarito_torna_in_isolamento-251532847

>>17892964
>I don't understand how checks in hand are not increasing the amount of money in circulation anon, sorry.

Imagine there's two people in the entire world. One is named Gov and the other is named Joe. Gov has $100 and Joe has $20. The total amount in circulation is $120. If Gov gives Joe $10, Joe now has $30 and Gov has $90. The total amount in circulation is still $120.

The "free money" is coming out of the federal budget, and therefore does not increase the total amount in circulation.

None of this has anything to do with the amount of PHYSICAL money in circulation. I think you confused me by bringing it up at all.

>>17891880
a little too late to sell all your stocks that's stupid.

>>17892559
>which
he isn't going to do shit with their stock until he wins his reelection.

>>17893084
Cope harder you dumb r*ddit faggot

>>17891947
>>17891967
your childlike understanding of the economy is laughable.
I don't think you faggots realize that without a central bank, the economy would be anarchy. the central bank is what stops currency from hyper inflation and depressions by controlling the money supply and stimulating sectors that are in recession. I sure as fuck am not leaving the fate of the economy to doomercryptlord anarchists for the sole reason of muh decentralization as if you even know what the fuck that means

>>17892641
how much did you start with?

>>17892641
Hey that was me like 2 weeks ago

>>17892795
can you margin trade sqqq?

>>17892975
From the hollow side or the spirit detective side?

>>17892446
Stay poor, schizo polnigger

>>17892202
crude will actually moon if a recession hapens

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>>17892225

Is 30.20 too high of a sell limit order? I want to set a realistic sell limit so I can unload my SQQQ. Or should I just watch it in case it goes above that.

t. Professional ameteur stock market money loser

>>17892899
what kind of fucking logic is that? you're going to create more poverty by prohibiting people from shorting in order to prevent poverty?

SPY is down almost $10 in after market

>>17892958
murica china now
I'm sorry for you anon, if you are shorting this market, keep in mind one thing. The people who make the big moves know that as well, and the question is if they're going to exploit it. If they see weakness in the whitehouse, and an administration that's only solution to prices falling is throwing more money. What would stop them from making the markets go down more?