/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17921945
Millennials really REALLY got fucked, huh?

>>17922030
It's over for us

Time for the zoomers to experience their first crash

>>17922089
Fuck you im riding this shit to the moon.

just don't fall the socialism meme

>>17921945
I feel you fellow albertan, I'm a labourer so at least my job hasn't been affected yet. Only death stops the construction business.

How stony-hearted are late millennial politicians going to be as a result of going through economic collapse after economic collapse in their youth?

inNEET

>>17921945
it's hilarious really. the most educated generation ever, duped into taking out exhorbant loans because "you need a degree to get a good job!" that are illegal to default on, start their early working years in the middle of a recession, be priced out of all asset classes (except the market they started) their entire working lives, then when their average purchasing power finally starts to become something they can work with, the black death sweeps in and kills the economy.

>>17922277
they are going to be absolutely ruthless.

>>17922277
>stony-hearted late millennial politicians

Politicians will be a thing of the past

on the bright side, OP, we'll never have to pay our loans back

>>17922436
I was going to say we're smarter than that and SURELY have learned the lessons of the past when it comes to violent revolunion...

Nah you're right, people are you going to do.what they always do in bad times: abandon all reason and make things infinitely worse.

>>17922191
dont fall for the politics meme in general

society isn't going to change, and if it does change, it will get worse.

>>17921945
>13 years with zero interest in dating
>finally decide to have a date
>covid-20 gets in the way
i'm sick of it

>>17921945
>graduate HS in 2007
>friend and i do a joint venture, get totally fucked in 08
>lose everything, wander, jobless until 2012
>work shit jobs, start going to uni part time while paying bills
>had to pause several times because literally no money
>gonna graduate soon
>now, COVID

I too am a /lost generation/

>>17921945
> graduate in 09
> go to works with dad in 2010 because economy in tanking and he can't afford to pay someone else
> oil price keep rising and eat our profits
> take no salary for 5 years
> finally go bankrupt in 2015
> get super depressed about loosing 5 years of my life
> catch incurable disease and become suicidal
> about to pull the plug
> economy goes into meltdown
At least I'll die with a smile

>>17922608
can't die if you haven't truly lived.

>>17922639
truth
maybe I'll phase into an other dimension before hitting the ground

I got lucky to survive desu.
>graduate in 2011 and get valedictorian at super small school (class of 20) because chick who was going to get it had to move.
>get full-ride because of it
>get research project freshman year, but then professor gets fired for plagiarism and im assigned to a cutting-edge project jus becuz they owe me a project
>research experience gets me internship at fortune 500 oil and gas company in 2013 (when oil was at its highest in recent years)
>use saved money to start small business with friend and jus happen to get bought out by armenians when we were about to go in the red
>finally graduate college after fucking around, a good 4 years after, but managed to save me from record lows in hiring in my engineering degree.
>get interview with small but profitable company with global clients because a guy who woulda graduated if I finished on time knows hiring manager
>highball them on my salary offer and talk up my experience despite taking 7 years to graduate
>corona has no effect on my career, and I've managed to get unique opportunities only a small company would get me

There are people that worked harder, smarter, and more disciplinary than me who are getting fucked by no consequences of their own and I genuinely feel bad that it just worked out for me. My mother named me after a form of the word "luck" in our mother tongue and I gotta wonder if there really is power in one's name.

>>17921945
I graduated high school in '08, got my PhD Dec '19. I got one job interview that was very promising in February but now that looks ded. Will probably be a post-doc schoolslave for the rest of my life.

>all those years of zero opportunity gone forever as you wither away alone and shitposting
>your only comfort is knowing that boomers 401k's are getting shrekt as they fear for the pointless few years they have left

>>17922356
'91 boomer here, we got a fucked, at least there's crypto

I'm going to get my shitty bike and work as a delivery till I fall off dead on the street, fucking entrepreneurship shills can suck my sweet sweaty hairy ballsack.

>>17922436
Yes frog posters with rifles, bayonets and infrared goggles are the future.
In the future there is only death and justice.

>>17922713
life is only about luck
doesn't matter if you're a hard worker or a genius, you need luck to succeed in life

>>17922089
>giving up
>>>/gen x/

>>17922791
god i wish this was false
i wish for it so hard

>>17921945
2010 here. its been rough.

I graduated from college in 2013, went to grad school but dropped out due to boredom and low pay and now I'm a neet. I feel like I could do any job given fairly well but I've become so lazy and don't want to do anything tedious and understimulating.

ABfag here too. As soon as this covid shit stabilizes I am selling all my shit and heading south. Can't fucking take Canada anymore. Thankfully I am a dual citizen who just updated their passport in January.

>>17922191
why not.

>>17922030
We are the new boomers, r-right biz?

>>17922089
we're barely going to experience it, and if anything we might get to ride the biggest wave ever once we get out of college
t. 18yo zoomer
only downside is i'm studying geology and at the rate oil and mining industries have been going i'll be better off eating rocks

>fell for the STEM meme
>lost opportunity to fuck HS/College pussy
>lost opportunity to develop lifelong friends
>labmonkey job that barely pays more than Amazon warehouses
>going to soon lose it soon too

It's over

>>17922936
hope you're willing to get a masters, otherwise you are wasting your time

>>17922885
Why not somewhere *else* in Canada?
You guys have actual healthcare

>>17922904
Your kids, your grandkids might be the new boomers. But not you.

>>17922936
You're far too optimistic, when 2008 happened all the people laid off were made redundant and replaced by temp/minimum wage/immigrants/technology, now with the virus people are going to realize they can still run the economy with most people unemployed or working remotely

NEET IS KING

>>17922904
>millenials getting absolutely assraped in life
>zoomers living through an almost event-for-event replay of the leadup to the 1920s, where they will just be old enough to take full advantage of what could only be another roaring twenties
ROARING TWENTIES HERE WE GO, ZOOMERS RISE UP

>>17922962
yeah but they pay like 5 bucks for a loaf of bread and will now be 6 bucks because of the inflation.

>>17922947
iktf
except i dont even have any STEM skills from my degree. i work in fucking sales.

>>17922962
Healthcare in Canada is only good for a few things, but otherwise it is shit. Wait lists for any non-life threatening specialist are fucking forever. The problem is wages are such fucking shit here that if you go to the USA you can buy the top tier insurance plans and still come out very far ahead. The entire purpose of Canada right now is to import as much third world labor as possible and destroy the lives of native Canadians. It's a sick joke.

>>17923067

>import 3rd world cheap labor
>economy crashes anyway

Boomers were a msitake

>>17923001
I'd still prefer that over 4-5 digit surprise hospital bills
god I fucking remember when I broke my knuckle I was sent to see some fucking hand "specialist" who basically looked at my hand and said "yep, it's a hand." that set me back $3k.

>>17923067
The insurance here is a sick joke that nobody likes to talk about. I had to fucking stand guard when my grandma got hospitalized just to make sure that every damn doctor coming in to "check" on her was in-network and we wouldn't get raped by out-of-network charges.

Sounds like both Canada and US are shit in their own unique ways and maybe you should think about sticking with a system that you already know how to navigate.

>>17922592
that sounds hellish anon. I hope the future will treat you better.

>>17922947
STEM chem here. After my old private company sold out to banks (due to the fact I turned around their failing product line) I got laid off with the rest of the 20% couldn't find another chem manufacturing job cause, *drumroll* OUTSOURCING MANUFACTURING AND STEM OVERSEAS!

So now I work in finance because fuck this earth. You either fuck or get fucked. I enabled the dreams of sailing off into the sunset for 2 boomers who I hope are getting annihilated in this market, and I am going to fuck my way in to the money i want.

I seriously fucking hate this system, so I'm going to learn the entire rule book and exploit it for everything it's worth.

Seriously, come into finance. If you're smart enough to do STEM you can outsmart these fuckers too. If america wanted scientists (thanks for the peptalk obama) they'd fucking pay us but they don't so fuck this system. Help me fuck everyone.

YOU SAID STOCK MARKET IS GOOD /BIZ/ YOU SAID STOCK MARKET WAS SURE THING /BIZ/
WHY IS STOCK MARKET DEAD /BIZ/????

>>17922989
millennials will making the laws within 5-10 years zoomie
enjoy your socialism

>>17922936
>we're barely going to experience it,
haha keep telling yourself that

>>17922955
i plan on getting a masters since i've heard geology is worthless without one
>inb4 crypto millionaire
>>17922974
yeah i'm worried about that i'm just hoping i can get a comfy field work job since its hard to automate miles and miles of offtrail hiking

>>17922089
zoomers sold their puts for 1000% gains already

>>17922955
Master's is still a waste of time, its PHD or bust now

>>17923284
Even PhDs are a meme unless you go to the right school, and even then you might still be fucked.

I graduated 2009, didnt go to college, been programming since 12. i work from home, i drive fast cars, friends same thing but car salesman, sold two houses over $500k, born and raised poor.

millennial are just fucking lazy with no street smarts besides where to find good weed and cheap drinks

>>17923163
Interesting. I'm also STEM (biomedical) but kinda interested more in finance nowadays as well.

>>17923163
How did you start?
t.Math Degree who tried to make it as Community College Prof

>>17922576
same, I moved out of the boonies this year hoping that living in a larger city would give me better access to things I needed to fix myself like therapists or good gyms, guess it's gonna be another year of no gf for me

>>17923423
Math degree here working in IT. This shit fucking sucks, how can I be a college brofessor or a private tutor?

>>17923163
This is the way in the end, everything comes down to capital

>>17922191
Why are you sweating?

>>17923481
The answer is: Don't. My tenure got sabotaged by 1 girl who told the dean I told her she needed to know stuff like how to add and multiply before attending a college level course (spoiler: I was teaching precal at the time) so unless you are exceptional at sucking dick, public institutions are incredibly finicky and you'll work years just to lose everything because they used the testimony that boils down to he said/she said to ruin you. Pirvate tutoring is literally just find a site/campus and post an ad.

>>17923481
Math major and unemployed. It's over boyos I should have learned a trade

>>17923481
Professors are a meme. Don't expect to ever get that comfy tenure job where you don't even teach and just do comfy research all day. Odds are you will be an adjunct instructor making less than minimum wage.

>>17923365
I had to take a low level position to get in. I started in a brokerage call center, doing trading for clients and helping them with moving money around/taxes. If you get in the right place they'll take you in, train you to take the Series 7 and Series 63, then when you're licensed, it's a shitload of buying/selling mutuals funds/stocks/etfs for clients. And in this market, the volume is high as fuck.

>>17923423
I applied for a low end position, had a reference but she backed out last minute so I had to sell myself as a person who wanted to switch careers because I wanted to understand finance more than chemistry.

>>17923492
This. I learned about molecules and how they interact together and how they build the world we see and experience.

Finance is learning how the systems we live in thrive or fail. The Economy is an organism and money is the blood. I want to know when, where, and why that blood flows where it flows.

>>17923648
>low end position
Are we talking like Jr finance dude or entry level finance stuff?

>>17923163
Based STEM anarchist

Glad I chose the neet life honestly. We're the most cucked generation ever. At least on my death bed I will find joy knowing I did my best to let it all rot instead of being a cuck wagie.

>I didn't choose the NEET life, the NEET life chose me

Are you me?

I graduated high school in 2008 and I've been trying to get rid of my NEET lifestyle for a long time. I'm 30 at this point and am about to land a real job after grad school, but this depression/pandemic thing might just screw me over. I really don't want to go back to living with my parents and being unemployed.

Watching the stock market fall everyday is really painful. I just need a few years of experience to develop some real on-the-job skills that put me ahead of other applicants.

>>17923162
>dad just called
>he's been laid off
The future has other plans

>>17921945
>Drop out of high school in 2012
>Meet a qt who I'll later marry in 2016
>Graduate college with two degrees in 2017
>Immediately get a great job paying 70k a year doing code monkey stuff thanks to my mother's connections.
>Live in a super cheap area and rent a 2k square foot house with a fenced in yard for $500 a month from my father-in-law
>Invest my disposable income and triple the value of my portfolio when the stock market crashes.
Life on easy mode is pretty sweet, you guys should try it.

>>17923670
I had to go entry level. But 1 year later I'm on the trading floor dealing with options/bond/discretionary trades. And my friend just got into a bond trading position for the firm (we started at the same time), making $60-70k. It's not glamorous money to start, but if you're good, you can rise fast.

>do everything they told you to do
>oops we shipped those jobs overseas XD
>turns out you could have dropped out of school and sold pot and been ahead of where you are

>>17923820
Your life has to be pretty sad if you're gloating in a thread like this.

>>17922277
96' here. I hope this entire rotten system burns to the ground. Despite my degree I paid out the ass for and working 2 jobs I still cant afford to do fucking anything ever. All while being told I'm entitled for wanting to live inside and not going into 6 figures of debt if I want to see a doctor. My shitty contractor status position doesn't even give me benefits.

>>17922089
Kek I was gonna drop out of college because engineering looked gay and get a job but now I don't know what the fuck to do if this depression happens (which it probably will).

>>17921945
>graduate high school in 2006 in alberta
>move to ontario for uni, got severely depressed, flunked all classes and quit in 2008
>move to fort mcmurray in 2008, take trade program (power engineer) and finish my coop in 2010
>move back home even though I got job offer from Suncor because severe depression
>be a neet for many years, invest money I earned in Fort Mac all in stocks
>lose ton of money in 2016 due to shale oil company and nat gas company going bankrupt
>start working at Walmart finally after so many years not working, and discover crypto
>invest half of my earning in Quadriga
>Turns out it was an exit scam, did not make a single withdrawal even though I had both Ledger and Trezor
>decided go back to college to study accounting
>graduate in 2019, but can't find job because crippling social anxiety and zero network
>be a neet again, but parent give ultimatum, so had to find job
>managed to become school bus driver because they hire literally anyone with pulse
>now losing ton of money because some Chinese virus is bad for "recession proof" pipeline/REIT companies. 10 years of profit evaporated in 3 weeks.

How do I not an hero myself at this point?

>>17922191

FUCK OFF BOOMEEEEERR

>>17923985

Because things might get fun if the virus gets bad enough. And lots of opportunities will open up if it delivers on being the boomer remover. Remember the inverse population pyramid is pretty much the root of every financial woe you have.

>>17923843

you have no idea. even shit level skinny white boy weed dealers have multiple cars, nice house, art collections etc

>>17922191
I'm probably a libertarian but at this point I just want the politicians and bankers that allowed this shit to happen to be killed, I don't blame anyone if they're becoming socialists considering how hard they've been fucked by the system.

>>17922559
Sry kike but things are going to change and people are waking up to the problem. Be scared. Your crappy subversion only makes us hate you more.

>>17922713
Iunno dude, sorry to burst your bubble but it sounds like you're hyping yourself up a little. Like, we don't want to hear your life story. You're young, you think you're cool, but listen dude, there are people on this site who have done better and don't go bragging about it. You're lucky if you win the lottery; your experience otoh seems pretty average. I mean you still had to work to get to where you are. By this standard we're all lucky cause we weren't struck by lighting or homeless.

>>17924070

As legitimate opportunities dry up and we become more 2nd and 3rd world, banditry and crime will become the only ways to have social mobility. The boomers sold our future away.

>>17923843
>turns out you could have dropped out of school and sold pot and been ahead of where you are
Kek I remember I realized I could've sold weed when I was a freshman (2014/15) and put that money into BTC and become rich as shit.

>>17923985
By buying VRA and selling the 20x, should be good starting cap

>>17921945
Imbecile. This is the age of opportunity.
Roughly all of the papers are way below their real value

>>17923163
Dude just get into tech, fuck being a bean counter LMAO. I can start my own company tomorrow if I want because I have actually skills.

>>17923166
We've been warning you for years about the downturn, fool. PE ratios where too high, all it took was a catalist to make it come tumbling down

>>17922576
>finally met wife material in my last sem of college 4 weeks ago, I’m older because I took a lot of time off.
> SHE LIKES ME! A LOT
> thinks my tism is cute, but also thinks I’m a bad boy and hot wtf
>find out she’s a virgin, and that she turned down lots of guys including ones I know
>Flu Manchu shuts down the school
>she goes back to the East Coast
tfw have had that “found my wife in college” experience, and now I’m having the “scrambling for respirators and toilet paper” experience

>>17924221
BUT
T R U M P

Any other 1996 brahs here?

>>17924195
>This is the age of opportunity
Bitch, what the fuck are you smoking?

>>17923166
Because it is. It's just a temporary panic.
And most /biz/ hate the stock market too.

>>17924075
>le based libertarian fence sitter
Fuck off faggot. Your type are the ones who import cheap labour and ship production overseas. You get the rope too

>>17924301
Get a look at any paper.
They're super devaluated.

>>17924301

>>17923837
That's pretty much entry level for an engineer. Fuck that, if I'm trading I want 100k at the very least. Shit, trading is serious business!

>>17924322
>Your type are the ones who import cheap labour and ship production overseas.
Which is a good thing. Cheap labour means more profits, and exportations means sweet dollars

>>17924227
brutal

>>17924308
>It's just a temporary panic
BULLFAG COPE
Suck the fed off harder maybe they'll give you another artificial pump faggot

>>17924322
>Rpely accuses me of something I didn't even say
Ignored, seethe harder

>>17921945
>be me, same timeline as op
>now working recession proof job that I like
>making a killing on plague stonks
It sucks to suck.

>>17924358
MORE
I WANT MORE

>>17923648
>it's a shitload of buying/selling mutuals funds/stocks/etfs for clients. And in this market, the volume is high as fuck
In a few months you'll be permanently replaced by a script.

In the Future, all monetary exchange will be done in bottles of Diet Coke.

>>17924358
It's not a crash, it's a panic.
Most companies hadn't reported massive debt or unusually low profits to justify this fall.

Use your brain, not your heart

>>17923843
>oops we shipped those jobs overseas XD
from my experience (at least as far as code monkey jobs go), the same huge companies doing all the outsourcing will also hire you just because they need some trivial shit done that can't be done during offshore hours. My last job eventually devolved to me just copypasting shit from one place to another during iterations, I'd literally spend half the day on /biz/ or whatever just fucking around. They paid me almost $70K for this too.

>>17924201
>I can start my own company tomorrow if I want because I have actually skills.
your skills are meaningless if you want to start a company. What matters is whether you have clients or not. Nobody gives a fuck about some autismo leet-skillz weirdo.

>>17923985
Sounds like you're a fucking loser anon

>>17924086
stay seething, neet. The metric we are going by is already determined by OP. This isnt the thread for rich niggers who were given their fortune. just to make well above average for your area is good enough for me and many.
besides, many are green texting.

>>17924075
Based. The biggest brain think someone could arrive at in this point in time is to realize the rich are parasites weighing our countries down with their reckless practices. They must be reigned in and brought to heel for the betterment of the people. We need a socialism that works for the nation instead of the wealthy few. A kind of national socialism, if you will.

>>17924448
Sounds comfy
>>17924396
>recession proof job
Too bad we're in for a depression

>>17922191
I'm done with capitalism.

>>17921945
Well, on the bright side you're in Alberta and not some rat infested high rise in NYC

>>17924468
They actually matter in my field. My fantasy is of opening a company that provides the same engineering services that I provide now as an employee. I know the people who call the shots in the companies I worked for and they know I'm good. I wouldn't even be the first guy to do this btw.

>>17924589
I don't think it matters what think anon

>>17924301
There will be a golden opportunity in the next few years. Think about it, home foreclosures will flood the market and cheap estate properties will be listed when the boomers die. Just gotta survive the fucking plague. This epidemic is a blessing for the young, in a fucked up way.

Maybe you should have chosen an area of study that had a future. Demand in my profession is at an all time high with what's happening

>>17924539
>Sounds comfy
there were times when I thought so too, but I always felt cheated since I put in the effort to get a CS degree only to be doing work that you could probably outsource to a staffing agency. It was also very dead-end for both my upward mobility there and my career in general, and I knew that once the music stopped playing for the stock market I'd be on the chopping block.

>>17924083
Yawn. You are our bitch, for now and always

>>17922962
alberta is the only cheap place to live unless you want to live in some dumpy drug addict town

>>17921945
I also graduated hs in 09 and uni in 2014. Somewhat similar path but I'm across the pond and live in UK atm. I work minimum wage atm but neetdom is not an option for me. Also as another said, don't fall for the socialism meme. I have briefly lived that shit and everyone I have met from Eastern Europe who has lived in it hates it.

>>17924875
> cheap estate properties will be listed when the boomers die
These will be inherited by milleanials though.
No cheap houses

>>17924888
>Maybe you should have chosen an area of study that had a future
No one has this much foresight you faggot, shit like this is why everyone is done the establishment. Look at Bernie, Trump, even the fucking tea party before them.

>>17921945
>graduate 60k in student loan debt from listening to stupid boomer parents
>work shitty non benefited temp jobs since graduation in 2015
>unemployed for nearly a year
>finally get a office job as a temp to permanent doing data entry
>get to the end of my assignment and about to get offered my first permanent job
>only 10k left to pay in student loans
>thing are finally looking up for me
>suddenly market shits the bed and still job offer
>probably going to get laid off soon instead
>will probably end up defaulting on my private loans for the first time because of the second great depression
>student loans will probably go back up to over 60k
I'll probably fake my own death and leave the country at that point.

>>17921945
>graduate 60k in student loan debt from listening to stupid boomer parents
>work shitty non benefited temp jobs since graduation in 2015
>unemployed for nearly a year
>finally get a office job as a temp to permanent doing data entry
>get to the end of my assignment and about to get offered my first permanent job
>only 10k left to pay in student loans
>thing are finally looking up for me
>suddenly market shits the bed and still no job offer
>probably going to get laid off soon instead
>will probably end up defaulting on my private loans for the first time because of the second great depression
>student loans will probably go back up to over 60k
I'll probably fake my own death and leave the country at that point.

>>17924960
>no one has this much foresight
except anyone with half a brain. Infosec, data centric analytics, biomed, and other select engineering subcategories are the most valuable skill securities you can have. Everything else is meme fluff that corps and any other significant employer will discard as shit continues to hit the fan.

>>17925074
you pretty much just described my life. I was finally about to pay off my student loans and started to think about saving up for a condo and I got laid off last friday

>>17923350
Awesome, awesome to the max.

>>17922608
>get super depressed about loosing 5 years of my life
>loosing
>LOOSING
It's losing. Time for the rope.

>>17923481
Listen to this anon >>17923548

There's no such thing as tenure anymore, only cronyism. And even then those spots are rapidly dissapearing.

>>17923749

>30
>I just need a few years of experience to develop some real on-the-job skills that put me ahead of other applicants.

Anon... I. I'm sorry.

>>17921945
> Graduate HS in 2007
> Start school, drop out immediately after getting a great job for 17
> I was honored to come onto TD Bank(north at the time) in November of '07
> Market crashes while I'm climbing ladder and being trained on mortgages
> Get fired for bullshit made up circumstances
> Practically framed for robbery
> Life ruined
> Do lots of drugs, ruin life more
> Eventually build a whole new career
There was nothing like watching people crying in my branch. Recessions are fun.
>

>>17922947
>fall for the math 300k starting meme
>no gf entire uni
>no friends
>cant find job because pajeets and chinks flooding machine learning and data jobs with their shoddy credentials
fuck this gay earth

>>17923783
That sux. What was his job?

>>17921945
It's called "graduate from high school", not "graduate high school".

>>17922947
>fell for the STEM meme

kek you probably studied biology or "environmental engineering" or some shit.

>>17921945
'92 here, wageslave since 2012. Its literally all i know, what do i do to fix it and minimize getting financially fucked in all my holes as much as possible?

>>17924295
96 here. Realized at 19 that I could never make it in the high tier job world...spent my time in uni (ended up being for philosophy lol) thinking about how i could make it. Business ideas that never went anywhere, a YouTube channel to 1500 subs that I didnt like, and finally biz in 2017. Thanks to my old roommate who I ran into at walmart and told me he made a lot off bitcoin. That one moment lead to 11.3k link + more.

>>17925415

Higher ed dug too deep and too greedily. Their bubble will pop as people slowly realize that they're not placing anyone in jobs and putting yourself 200k in debt before ever actually getting a job is a terrible idea.

>>17922947
i know that feel

>>17925840
+ they can't swindle people now that everyone realises 90% of it can be done over the internet anyways

>>17924227
Speaking from personal experience you need to get on that now faggot before it’s gone

>25yo
>had only one job
>college diploma in business
>final semeter in university for BA and honours
>failing everything

>>17925840
Those parasites (that's what they are) at the top of the ivory tower of academia get the rope too.

>>17922947
>fell for the STEM meme
>lost opportunity to fuck HS/College pussy
this is the absolute worst part. fuck stem and i'm an idiot. god damn i missed out on pussy now im an old ugly retard

>>17926125
>>17922947

I got a physics/math degree and got a great job working on satellites 2 months after graduating. What the fuck happened, anons?

>>17923171
socialism will beget the good socialism
>t. zoomer

>>17926180
Because STEM includes everything from biology to "industrial engineering". Many STEM degrees are worthless, physics and the traditional engineering degrees aren't.

>>17925496
It's not too late... It's... not... too... late...

>>17926180
First job couldn't get a grant for me to work, 2nd, I disliked the guy I was gonna work with and wasn't a hustler, so I walked away from money. Left the country, never got back to the field.

>>17926299

I went from homeless to getting a cushy office job. You just lie and pretend to be a normie.

>>17924953
>boomers get sick
>sell/refinance to pay 10k a week to live
>die
>broke gen x/millenial inherits a property that they cant afford to pay the remaining debt on
>foreclosure
nice try millenial scum

>>17925097
most people dont have half a brain. for a long time though, those people were still able to live a middle class life by going along with what people said was a good path
>just go work in the steel mill
>just go to college
>just study STEM
>just get an advanced degree
that is less and less the case

>>17926308

Fuck man... sucks. Im sure things will pull together eventually.

>>17926339
Never mind the debt, just think about the 10+k a year in property taxes.
Literally paying rent level payments to own your own property.

>he wasnt working 12 hour days 2012-2016

You call yourself albertan

>>17922788
Those aren't goggles anon...
Those are the eyes of severe pain.

>>17922788
For you.
The rest of the world will live fine and dandy in prosperity as you obsess over negatives and pessmistic futures that will never happen.

>>17926484
>2012-16
What in the hell are you saying?

>>17925097
Yeah a lot of IT skills, hell even FinTech is pretty good these days. But it has to do something with data or technology because anything else is usually saturated, and low-level tech stuff is stuffed full of pajeets.
It's kind of crazy how every industry is full and is paying less and less and no-one even realizes it.

>>17922191
Stop bailing out companys and just nationalise them

>>17922191
Marxist Socialism is some gay egalitarian bullshit, National Socialism on the other hand understands might makes right. The only way is meritocracy.

>>17926705
>The only way is meritocracy.
wtf why are you so misogynistic

>>17921945
Get a hobby. Buy Monero and NERVOS. Live your life for 2 years, and cash out half at +10,000% in 2022.

>>17926746
Because Ass We Can

>>17921945
Okay, I’m a Zoomer about to graduate college. How fucked am I? Should I even bother looking for employment? Might as well just start my own company, right?

>>17923163
feels good being an EE chad

>>17926766
Military service now or get land and live like a medieval peasant till it recovers

>>17926801
I’m graduating from an Ivy League university. Was gonna take a gap year and do more research before I apply medical school, but I’m seriously thinking taking military office route.

Redpill me on military service during depression.

>>17927036
They give you "food", a bed, and some sort of structure over your head.

>>17921945
>NEET for 1 week
>want to fucking kill myself
I feel so fucking unproductive, I unironically liked working.

>>17922592
>Pandemic on a scale that hasn't been seen since the Spanish Flu hits
>This is Trumps fault
Why do people think like this?

>>17926403
>>17926657
>that is less and less the case
Yes, and it's no longer the case because society will no longer be able to afford pseuds and pontificators. They're excess societal weight. Fascinating how they believed a bubble is indefinite. Denial perhaps because society has been able to afford their excess weight for decades. As much as Rand is a meme, we are entering meme times.

>pajeets
yeah, but Pajeets are there for corporates to wrangle and make positions out of managing. As we enter new era, it's going to be one skilled insourced worker responsible for A-Z, the way it's meant to be.

>>17927146
TDS

>>17922686
No, you die and your ego dissolved into nothingness. Permanent sleep with no dreams.

>>17927188
>>17924888
my repeating digits are a sign

>>17924227
>she's a virgin
if you don't get in the car now and drive to her house you're a fucking faggot. i hope you remember this post in 20 years either now.

>>17924407
you're too autistic to understand person to person communication or conversational skills, also probably standard social conventions so I can see why you would think that.

>>17923161
You honestly just don't get it mutt. You see "free healthcare" and think you're going into a nice Kaiser Permanente building or something. You're not. You're going into a branch office in a run down mall filled with Somalians and FOBs to get told by some poojeet that your condition requires a specialist with a 2 year waiting time. Also it's not covered. You, as an american, have literally zero fucking idea what healthcare is like here.
Your grandmother would have died in this country while waiting for a doctor, if she was even lucky enough to have a family/walkin doctor who gave enough of a shit to diagnose her with whatever the fuck she had. Doctors here often essentially tell old people to fuck off because they aren't even worth treating because the system is so strained. You just do not get it.

>>17922885
we won't let you in

>>17921945
we are gonna make it albertabro
stockpile ammunition

Fuck bros I just had a job offer pulled that I was to start March 30th because of the Corona.. Now I have to go back to my old company looking like a sap.

>>17927188
>yeah, but Pajeets are there for corporates to wrangle and make positions out of managing. As we enter new era, it's going to be one skilled insourced worker responsible for A-Z, the way it's meant to be.
Ah I love the fact that I'm getting a degree in management. A perfect education to make use of the unwashed albeit educated hordes that are bound to make up the workforce

>>17927383
Based separatist Anon
>>17927373
Bold of you to assume that he doesn't meet the requirements

>>17927414
haha, it might even be more meta than that if you're assuming we will continue operating in current state.

You might actually be managing someone that is managing a horde of pajeets. Or you might be managing a king pajeet that is managing a horde of pajeets (that is also being co managed because he is outsourced and therefore only a partial resource to you)

Have fun with modern "management"

>>17927500
If they'll pay me, idgaf. I'll use it as a springboard for my own businesses. From other managers I know, they manage the hordes, so it may very well get more meta by the time I hit the workforce.
It's funny; I went to school doing business on a whim because it was interesting and I had no plan. It might be the most beneficial thing I've ever done

>>17927146
He claimed that it was a nothingburger, lied about testing and when everyone else got seriously hit he claimed it would just miraculously dissapear within weeks, despite having months of a headstart over South Korea/Japan and weeks over most of Europe he still fucked up
That's what normalfags see
People who aren't retards know that 2008 was never fixed, and that the performance of the stock market of the Obama era (inherited by Trump) was made out of hot air in the form of monetary stimulus
Trump did nothing to deflate it, he just kept pumping it with tax cuts, jawboning, and by begging the fed to continue with the monetary sheanigans
Take the praise get the blame, he's a fucking retard who only knows how to suck jewish cuck, just like king nigger

>>17922166
based moon man, digits confirm greatness. May your launch be low and your lunar throne be high

>>17921945

I am part of the lost generation

>Graduate HS in 2008
>Teachers would tell us "If only you knew how bad it was"
>Unemployment at 20%, nobody would hire me for anything, too lazy to get into trades
>Worked menial jobs for nearly a decade until i decided to get into CS in 2016
>Graduate in 2018 into a saturated field doing boring work while ruining my health sitting at a chair all day
>Put 2 years of savings into Stocks while I was working, saving every dollar

aaaaaand now I lost 50% of my measly fiat i managed to accumulate in my late 20's. It hurts bros, I feel like god is testing us sometimes

>>17924609
>my fantasy
it is just that

>>17927855
thats what you get for trusting jews

>mfw corporate CEOs and bankers have names and addresses and family like you do

>>17927628
I'm saying it's already meta in Fortune50 plus takes some ladder climbing (years) to get to mgmt unless you are entering with friends there to help.
Business is never bad as long as you have half a brain to pair. Formal education is a meme, don't make those shit watered down courses your primary body of knowledge. My degree was one of the hottest memes (still is) from a decent institution but put in a lot of extra time understanding industry myself to even pretend I was a professional

>>17928017
Don't worry, I don't intend to walk out of school thinking I know everything. I already have my eye on a ton of post-undergrad professional designations and certifications that I intend on getting. I know that even those won't be enough and it will still be gaming the system. Fortunately, though the military (ironically) I got access to a wide array of business clubs chock full of people in high places. Now all I need to do is exploit it all lmfao

>>17921945
Also Alberta fag, also graduated 2009

>>17928175
>I already have my eye on a ton of post-undergrad professional designations and certifications that I intend on getting
keep in mind, with the right company, they will happily pay for that shit. If you were in mil, get into defense ind, perfect landing spot imo

>>17926299
If you're about to get out of grad school, you probably have a good enough story for employers not to care that much about it.
Getting shit done > everything else

>>17923869
Another 96 fag here. I spent years and tens of thousands of dollars on flight certifications and now that I'm finally a flight instructor and can make $ this shit happens, maybe great depression 2.0. Fuck this rigged bullshit, I did everything I was fucking told and jumped though all the crazy hoops of FAA certification and I'll still be broke for years and paying interest on loans cause who knows how long this fucking thing will last. Fucking boomers crashing this plane, with no survivors all I wanted to do was fly jets for a living
Also sexy digits btw

>>17922191
Communism will win

>>17928226
True, but as an AB fag I need to do something to get into the job market. Getting at least one designation plus a few certifications should be a good start.
If the defence industry will take me, I'd gladly dive into it. A few of my ideas are related to defense tech, all I need are the resources for R&D. The issue is that they're not gonna hand that stuff over to a fresh grad with no engineering credentials lol
Thanks for the pointers though, I'll try and apply them as much as I can. Maybe commission for the extra flex too.

>>17927345
This is correct. I have family in Canada, one of whom came here to get her cancer treated rather than wait 8 months for a first visit and probably metastasize and die.

>>17921945
Graduated during great recession with useless liberal arts degree. Farted around and eventually went to medical school. Just finishing up and matched into a medical residency. I have a guaranteed job, but its gonna be a hellscape and I might die lol. I'm not the healthiest.

>>17928470
Good luck. We will all need a bit where we're headed.

>>17921945
2017 Saskatchewan grad now living in Alberta.

We really got fucked bro.

>>17928510
Good luck to you too bud
I have no worries about the future, and in the worst-case history will rhyme.

>>17926009
can attest. dont end up like us

>>17928764
>>17926009
>>17924227
chase her
we are channeling autist level of confidence power to you, shit's fucked anyway

>>17928177
Hopefully things worked out better for you the oil boom was a once in a lifetime money making opportunity. I fucked up after highschool and wasted time working shitty jobs instead of education or trades because I read too much doomer shit about the economy crashing and graduated not finding jobs.

>>17928535
Yeah it's going to get bad, the company I work for made it out of the 2015 crash without layoffs and I was lucky to even get this job, I work with guys who graduated into the boom and have like 450k houses, 70k trucks, 50k RV's and shit and live paycheck to paycheck, they needed their service bonus to even apply for their mortgage and with the economy now we won't even get a bonus because most of the work is done during the summer

>>17929030
>>17924227
to add, I've made the same mistake with a girl that was special to me. I was young and retarded and did not realize what it meant to find/have a quality person in your life. We drifted apart after being very close. I let myself slide after that and now I'm a turbo autist that hasn't been around humans in a social capacity for close to a decade. I also get physically ill when I look at the mega thots on dating sites and realized what I lost. AAAAAAAAAA

>>17921945
>graduate hs in 2009
>get compsci degree
>fuck around in contracts
>no full time work because muh cheap third worlders
>go into unskilled labour on construction sites after 5 years in the compsci "field"
>making more money than friends with office jobs
>coronavirus hit

At least I know how to live destitute

>>17929236
if you ever need to, you can target other fields revolving around CS. A lot of professions need technical skills that aren't strictly dev

>>17925340
These dumb fucks never learn.

>>17924448
What job?

>>17929236
First, have you considered moving up to a skilled trade like an electrician or a pipefitter? Second, if you know how to live frugally then now is the time to learn the ways of self-made millionaires. Frugality is a must and right now is a golden opportunity to invest if you can make the money.

>>17922191
No fuck you.

Capitalism is over.

I hope the 6PM-12 songs are all amazing, because I'll probably almost never hear the rest of the soundtrack.

>>17922191
governments shouldn't bail out big businesses just because they are big. If a large company fails, it creates a vacuum that will inevitably be filled by another upstart. This is the natural order of capitalism. When the government bails out a failing corp it's disrupting the natural order.

>>17923869
The fact you’re a contractor far outweighs any benefits. Get an S-Corp and learn about deductions

>>17922547
>killing politicians anything but the reasonable choice
Oof

Class of 2010 reporting in
not dead yet

Class of 2015, regret going to college and getting an undergrad degree. Also regretting the decision to do an accelerated grad program. Should have done something else and not listed to my parents.

I have so many goddamn regrets, I shouldn't have let them dictate my life.

>>17921945
LEARN HOW TO BUY PUTS FU KING RETARD IDIOT

>>17924301
After every pandemic there was a boom in economic activity for the survivors. Less workers so higher wages, new growth and rebuilding, tons of new stuff. Provided you live.

Oil and gas lawyer here. Got laid off a few weeks ago cause of prices. Started lying on my resume and now I have interviews lined up and a possible offer as soon as next week. Don’t play fair, especially in this economy. If you can get away with lying to get a job, do it. You don’t want to be unemployed during this upcoming Great Depression.

>>17930014
Is there an app I can download?

>>17927345
5-6 figure bill that you'll debt slave away or long-ass waiting times that might end up in you dying.

Choose your poison

>>17921945
I'm going to OD on some opioids or something like that within a few years.

>>17923548
How is public IT? I heard it's slow-pace with decent pay. I'm definitely not taking it because of disabilities.

>>17924539
My mom is really proof anything and I'm lucky with my zoomy ass that college is 99% free for autismos.

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