/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>17979829
Let it crash to zero. Fuck em.

he would still have to pay unemployment to everyone

place your puts, rake in the tendies

>>17979860
Make the people pay, cant we crucify these bastards?

>>17979878
please teach me

>>17979829
Is there a single political ideology that supports writing these bastards checks?

>>17979898
americanism

>>17979898

Judaism obviously

>>17979878
AAL 4/27 $3.00P

>>17979898
Capitalism

>threatens
lmao

>>17979829
lol Fuck United

The website failed when I was checking in, and I could not switch my flights after two of my returns got canceled in front of me that day. Some bullshit like I had to check in my bag before they allowed me to get a pass for basic economy. I had to get a kiosk worker to help me, refund a new flight prepared because I could not change the existing final destination to a different local Airport.

Failing websites are a sign.

>>17979898
its called "to big to fail"
a major perpetrator of the policy was obama

FUCK TRUMP
FUCK REPUBLICANS
FUCK DEMOCRATS
FUCK BERNIE
FUCK BIDEN
FUCK KIKES
FUCK BANKS
FUCK NIGGERS
FUCK ROASTIES
FUCK JIM CRAMER

AND FUCK JANNIES

>>17979919

>>17979829
I'll give them 1 billion for every time I wasn't molested when I went to the airport.

>>17979829
I don't get why a company isn't forced to sell it's stock in order to keep operating
Why threaten this shit and ask for handouts?

>>17980293
Because they run the government.

>>17979919
>>17979829
correct me if im wrong here fellas but under a capitalist ideology, if the business is failing shouldnt we let it go under and let a more efficient one take its place? this would apply to banks and shit as well

>no big companies are allowed to fail

>>17979829
>Company dies
>Fed "bails it out" by buying the company
>Renames it "Pan Am" and makes the stewardesses all wear high heels again
BASED

>>17980741
Yes. Unfortunately what we have is crony capitalism. Literally everything must be allowed to fail, including governments. These ancient corporations are so inefficient it makes engineers literally cry. The forest needs to burn so the new growth can see sunlight.

>>17980766
The same Pan Am flight attendants still work there

>>17979829
Wow, fuck these scumbags.

>>17979829
Can someone please tell me why we don’t have mass shooters who Target ceos, cfos ,corrupt politicians and board of directors. Like why kill innocent people when you know...

>>17979898
corporate socialism

>>17979829
some small business fag told me i would oppose handouts if owned a business
lol

if this is the case why are all these businesses and corporations asking for a government handout?

>>17980741
Yes but we have welfare capitalism, which manages to be worse than both of its parents

>>17979829
no need to save bro, the whole bailout package will be freshly printed

>>17979829
no need to save up bro, the whole bailout package will be freshly printed

>>17980853
Mfw I'm literally top 0.1% in the country where I live.

>>17980853
Ive noticed this too. It makes no sense. They get to the point of being willing to kill others because they're butthurt and they end up targeting low tier wagies. Huh!?

>>17979829
What are the odds of an uprising or will the nornies scream that it's up to the government because united airlines demanded it?

>>17979829
>BAILOUT OR JOB CUTS
i hate liars
>let company go bankrupt
>all assets are sold
>all debts are erased
>absolutely nothing happens in the vacuum
yeah right

>>17979898
It's called, "Oh fuck, the lolbertardians were wrong, opening trade with China just made their socialist capitalist system stronger, shit, now we can't let anything fail anymore or our grandchildren will be speaking Mandarin".

>>17980773
> hey guyse this wasn't the real capitalism

>>17980853
Becuz they are plants by the FBI.
CEOs and Feds are untouchable in 2020.

>>17979860
Not if he defaults

>>17979898
Trumps MIGA agenda

>>17979835
Agree fuck munoz he should be in jail. They charge us bag fees I hope they get fucked in the behind. Someone find this assholes email address. Airlines are literally .4% or less of us employment fuck them

>>17979898
Talmudism

>>17980853
Cool it with the anitsemitic remarks

>>17981461
>the government constantly injects itself into the market
>this IS real capitalism
Cope

>>17979898
Corporate socialism.

>>17980853
stop asking questions goy

>>17982017
It's literally the capitalism version of "it's not real communism."

>>17979878
Already done

>>17980120
Unequivocally based
Quintessentially based

>>17980853
Because wagies are easy targets. Try to kill a Fortune500 CEO and you'll be swiss cheese before you even got to the front door

>>17980853
IDK man we have such a passive population that some people actually welcome getting invaded
Strange times ahead

We have to let them fail. Companies should have the savings to weather unpredictable events. Those that can't adapt fail, those that can prosper. Its how capitalism works. If you think these companies should be bailed out you are not a capitalist. It may hurt short term to see some airliners fail, but long term it will be much better as companies will be prepared themselves, knowing the public won't bail them out.

If we bail them out, we are just kicking the can down the road to the next crisis where they'll need another bailout. It will never end until corporations learn to support themselves.

>>17980853
Because mass shooters are dumb retards mad because they got bullied or can’t get a girlfriend so are not going to target a Rothschild

>>17980120
hello, based department?

>>17981996
Based and underrated

>>17979860
Based CEO trying to guarantee checks and lawsuits when employees can't get to work

Why should we let them fail when they got fucked by circumstances beyond their control? Technically thr government fucked them by restricting travel and limiting the #of people allowed in buildings.

>>17979898
Labor market politics

Want me to fry you up some fucking potato pancakes? Some latkas?

>>17981084
Small businesses aren't the ones getting bailed out
They aren't "too big to fail"

>>17979829
Worst airline I hope they go out of business and everyone gets fired. I have had so many bad experiences with them I literally stopped using them altogether.

>>17980766

>>17979915

bold

>>17979898
Blue square cucks that value a pozzed crony state/economy combo over their own lives and futures.
Purple squares and red squares may hate each other's guts, but at least they aren't halfway crooks that would BOTH lick boots and pay ransoms to people who are already getting ridiculous tax breaks.

>>17979835
Can my brother get an amen?

>>17979898
Cuckoldrism

>>17980853
where is he when we need him most

>>17983453
We should let them fail for the same reason a hospital would leave you to die without cheno treatments when you don't have insurance.
If everyday people can be chastised for not having thought ahead or having savings, and for living paycheck to paycheck, there's no reason that the same rhetoric shouldn't apply to companies, businesses, landlords, etc. These people need to stop overleveraging themselves instead of actually directly owning assets.
Maybe the business that replace them will think to have savings in the future instead of living transaction to transaction.

>>17979898
neoliberalism

They should bail these companies out, but on the condition that they're broken up so that they're no longer "too big to fail".

>>17980853
Most of them are outcasts and want revenge on others for not accepting them. They're shallow but think they're deep people.

>>17982336
It was real capitalism for about 100x longer than a communist system. Only fell apart when the boomers decided they didn't like rules.

>>17980853
Does anyone know how heavily guarded the Eccles building is? Asking for a hypothetical friend in Minecraft.

>>17985039

>>17984701
No they should let them fail and auction off their assets but legally ban them from selling their assets abroad. National capitalism is the top titties system, reagan fucked it by opening us to the world with outsourcing

>>17979829
lmao, my firm just ran it's quarterly update on our dividend model to dump their stock yesterday. this shit is going to burn.

>>17984701
There is clearly a need for such large companies and also it is a truth that they are too big to fail, therefore they should simply be made companies owned by the government since they rely on government handouts anyway, the government should buy them, let that be the handout.

>>17985095
>be american
>tip FBI

>>17979829
Nice free market

>>17979829
is there a triple leverage short airlines etf?

>>17980120
Vermin Supreme 2020 baby!

>>17984639
He's still alive, right? I wonder if he knows how hard shit has hit the fan.

>>17979835
This. Real markets have winners and losers.

>>17979829
where did all that profit go?

no masks for doctors and nurses
hand out billions to a company that spent all it's cash on stock buybacks out of greed
fuck off, flyboi

>>17979835
>>17979829
>>17979860
>>17979898

96% PERCENT OF FREE CASH SPENT ON STOCK BUYBACKS

>>17979898
Capitalism, the ideology that worships profit-seeking as a virtue

>>17983023
what app is this

>>17979898
Capitalism

>>17980741
Muh Free market is a meme. Actual, modern capitalist economies all depend on companies sucking the public dry wile privatizing the profits.

>>17985005
>Muh boomers

The Feds existed since 1913. Cope harder.

>>17979898
Actually existing capitalism, aka neoliberalism

Why the fuck anyone would start an airline after this corona meme.
Lets say you start it, things are doing good, then some chink eats a bat and bam, you are fucked.
You cant predict nor prepare to those risks.

>>17980120
Agree with everything except the niggers and Bernie.

Good people

>>17980741
Real capitalism gas never been tried

>>17979898
>Is there a single political ideology that supports writing these bastards checks
Too big to fail Obamaism

>>17987160
IG

>>17987232
>My logic is 100% correct
>Anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong
Imagine being this low IQ.

>>17985095
those tabs lmao

>>17979829
>Let stock price collapse to pennies
>Gov buys it all up for nothing
>Fires all execs, runs as nationalized airline until crisis is over
>Sell shares back at profit afterwards

Why do you need bailouts???

>>17986790
he probably does and is enjoying the hell out of this, everything is going according to his predictions. After corona we will live even more tied to technology and the State.

>>17987232
To carry the nuke to China obviously...
Perhaps that's a PMC tho

>>17980853
because almost all mass shooter events are false flags meant to manipulate cattle goyim

>>17979898
Keynesianism/Social Democracy

>>17979898
KEYNSIANISM

>>17979898
Fuedalism

>>17987286
shit was happening long before obama. With bipartisan support too

>>17979835
based.

>>17979898
Capital corporate socialism

>>17979829
>Literally holding the economy hostage.

>have $5k in United ticket credit
They better not go bust.

>>17979829
Who the fuck takes United Airlines?

>>17989895
United basic economy is super cheap if you're flying out of a hub.

>airline gets bailed out
>execs buy their own stock
>lay off employees anyway
fuck this gay ass system

>>17979898
“Muh small government” neocons somehow have the cognitive dissonance to support it.

>>17979829
Riots when!?

>>17979878
Fuck the premium is gonna be high asf shouldve done it on friday

>>17980853
Because all normals are guilty, from the richest asshole to the poorest asshole.
It's just easier to shoot a random Joe than to sneak into some billionaire's compound.

>>17980741
well you'd think so, but real world capitalism instead creates these powerful corporations that are able to strongarm the government into giving them bailouts.

now you can say that this is "not real capitalism", but you will sound like a communist telling you that the soviet union was "not real communism". so have fun with that

>>17979878
>place puts in a company the government is in negotiations to bail out

Not sure that's a good idea but what do I know

>>17979829
socialism is ok when the rich do it.

At that point why wouldn't you have a national airline?

>>17981084
Got damn that thing is fucking hideous

>>17989977
Its not
We're all pissed

>>17990015
because... uh.... THE HOLOCAUST

>>17989913
Giving billions to a government-protected compant is small government according to who?
You are intellectually dishonest.

>>17979908
Stop blaming us you dumb goy. When we advocate for workers rights and limits on these monopolies you call us commies but once the lube runs dry you claim we've been the ones fucking your bussy this whole time.

>>17979835
based. There are other companies that can pick up the marketshare when demand for travel returns. Fuck this shit company, I hope this guy dies penniless.

>>17990417
his point is that you won't hear the "small government" cucks fighting against it, and if you do, it'll just be token resistance.

>>17979829
Fuck ALL these shitty airlines. Overpriced trash, ALL employees are black and/or female (from the pilot to the people hauling your luggage to the stewardess), every one of their planes is a 50+ year old hunk of shit that smells like piss/shit/puke with rust all over the wings and fuselage

I hope they livestream their suicides. What's going to actually happen? They're going to get unlimited billions from taxpayers and will continue flying their shitboxes round until they explode