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>auto industries shut down
>entertainment industries shut down
>tourism non existent
>aircraft industries shut down
>travel industries shut down
>50% unemployment highest in HISTORY
>faggot government can't decide on CoronaBux
>oil war
>deaths and cases exponentially doubling every day
>literally no one can leave their house

how is this going up?
they can pump T R I L L I O N S into this shit but cant give me a thousand dollars so i can buy FOOD?

>> No.18042538

>>18042530
it's going to dump so hard

>> No.18042558

>betting against the fed
>betting against hyperinflation

>> No.18042650
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Investor confidence that the fed announced infinite dollars bills, and the false hope that Republicans will pass the new Democrat covid bill
It will dump somewhere between 14-17 thousand tomorrow

>> No.18042721

>>18042530
>this is an indicator of clownworld
WOW bears are delusional cuçkholded retards!!

DID YOU JUST START PAYING ATTENTION TO MARKETS??

This isn’t unusual in the slightest.

AND THE ONLY REASON YOU THINK ITS CLOWNWORLD IS BECAUSE ITS NOT GOING YOUR WAY AND YOURE AFRAID YOUR PUTS WILL BE WORTHLESS!!

Shit man, I’m short the Nikkei and I’m about to be fucked royally right when they cancel the Olympics. Sometimes you get it wrong. Markets fell too far too fast and trump indicated he’s looking to end the shutdown. Injection of hopium. Shorts cover. Futures rally. We lose a few %

>> No.18042742

People are clutching at straws and desperately convincing themselves that this isn’t actually happening. The government is helping them dig the holes to bury their heads.

But it can’t last. Reality will sink in soon.

When it does, this market’s gonna bleed out like a bull whose jugular has just been slashed open with a machete.

>> No.18042752

>>18042721
half the country is unemployed, quarantined, broke and sick. how is the economy not at 0?

>> No.18042896

>>18042752
That’s not even close to true, the stock market isn’t the economy, and it isn’t a measure of how many people are under quarantine.

Do you understand much about stocks? When you buy stocks you are buying companies. Would you pay 0 for a portion of Apple or Microsoft? How about Coke? What about a company that has the has the number one most popular cancer drug in the world?

There’s so much money out there that’s earning NOTHING in interest, people have to buy bonds that are guaranteed to lose them money. Why would the stock market be at 0?

>> No.18042932

>>18042752
exaggerate much?

>> No.18042938
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This is a bull trap, they can print infinite money, but that doesn't make productivity magically start again, it doesn't magically fix supply chain disruptions. The west is just starting to lock down, you cant buy yourself a functioning economy where there isn't any semblance of one to begin with.

>> No.18042947

>>18042530
>they can pump T R I L L I O N S into this shit but cant give me a thousand dollars so i can buy FOOD?
Oh I should’ve read that first to realize you know nothing about this besides the money printer meme.

Do a little research if you want to learn about this. The repo operations are not printing trillions. They’re overnight loans to banks. It’s a very bad sign and very worrisome but it’s not like they’re giving away money.

And after what happened when they DIDNT do shit like this and let Lehman brothers collapse... well the future will be a darker place if they didn’t do this shit, unless you like seeing people lost jobs, homes, cars, and hope.

>> No.18042954

>>18042530
It's going up because people are buying because stock prices are cheap. Some people just don't care about trying to time the bottom

>> No.18042974

>>18042938
It’s an oversold bounce dumbass
This is an unprecedented crash in terms of speed, depth, and lack of retracement.

The biggest %day gains have historically been made during crashes, right in there with the biggest % losses.

>> No.18042981

>>18042530
the end of the west just got sped up a couple hundred years (spengler model)

>> No.18042983

Doesn't matter, it's just more consolidation. Won't mean shit when you haven't had a job for a year and need to sell your stocks to live when they're still down 30% for the year, meanwhile the super rich don't need to sell their assets to live and continue buying cheap while waiting for the feds to pump their stocks back up

>> No.18042998

>>18042947
Someone who understands basic economy on /biz/? Oh wow

>> No.18043006

>>18042530
The Fed literally went nuclear announced they will use infinite quantitative easing to stop the economy from crashing. Of course the market is going back up. It is still down massively since the pandemic started and it remains to be seen if that Phase III bill they're trying to pass will end up being any good

>> No.18043016

>>18042974
It can be both, it will cool off a bit but there is no way this is the bottom.

>> No.18043019

>>18042530
>stocks go up because the value of your money goes down

>> No.18043033

I'm starting to like this FED fellow, who is he?

>> No.18043058

>>18042998
Someone who’s trying to understand, but all of this stuff gets pretty complicated for me.

>>18043016
It’s extremely unlikely that it’s the bottom in my opinion, but the market doesn’t care what we think.

We need to see the market make two green days in a row before making any predictions about a bottom.

>>18043019
Ah yes, all this inflation the USD is experiencing?
That’s why gold is at all time highs versus the dollar? And other currencies are worth so much more?
Check the dollar index, this is a deflationary shock. If we don’t want to get caught in the Japan trap, we need to increase the supply of USD.

>> No.18043068

>>18042947
Not saying you are wrong but think about this. I've heard numbers being thrown around that they've given out 36 trillion in repo loans and the interest that has to be payed back is like 1.25% or something that goes towards the national debt. So assuming everything is payed back with interest that's only 450 billion that goes towards the debt. It doesn't even make a dent. We are so fucked especially when you consider that the banks suck the interest out of the population in the first place.

>> No.18043099

>>18042932
Considering we are about to get a report of 20 million unemployed, not really.

>> No.18043110

They will buy the amounts necessary to insure (((smooth market operation)))

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>>18042530
number go up..but bread cost $100. wut do frens?

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>>18042721
everything isn't about your options trading faggot. they are printing most US citizens into poverty.

>> No.18043137

>>18042530
Because we had 2 massive red days in a row, rebounds are always going to happen its not a straight plunge down into a crater, are you an actual retard op?

>> No.18043165

#TACHYON protocol has Cybersecurity and privacy protection fall into the trap of the centralized network

>> No.18043169

>>18043134
This is very true, but its also the truth that we all just go dealt a shit hand. Damned if you do damned if you don't. If we didn't stall the economy we'd have another Spanish flu once hospitals got clogged up and many more would die and the economy would still take a hit. We all got fucked here, its basically a natural disaster, but a tad bit better because none of our infrastructure is destroyed.

>> No.18043171

>>18042947
they just announced that the fed will buy ANYTHING. that means debt that should be dead that won't sell on the open market will be absorbed by the Fed. This is actually preventing the market from working naturally and is indeed FUCKING MONEY PRINTING. I don't know why you want to defend the criminals at the fed.. do you even know why you are doing it?

>> No.18043322

>>18043171
I suggest you read Prince's of the Yen, it talks about the Japanese bubble, what was done, what should have been done and the fallout, there are some similarities. They are printing money because there is literally nothing else unless you want the economy to completely collapse. This is decades in the making.

>> No.18043335

>>18042530
So these are considered artificial pumps due to trading algorithms seeking known indicies considered "Safe" and parking. Rather than a pump from investors and a sign of confidence. It was being discussed on CNBC.

>> No.18043346

>>18043171
>do you even know why you are doing it
Partially because I had your level of understanding and also thought they were “printing” money and “pumping” the market by buying equities, and want people to understand that isn’t what is happening. That’s what the bank of Japan has resorted to, but we’re not there yet.

What has happened, which is FUCKHUGE and you’re making it seem insignificant by bullshitting about repo operations and “they’re buying everything” nonsense, is they have committed to buying CORPORATE DEBT.

THAT is huge. Even if things go well, some companies will default. So if they buy the debt in any of those companies, THEN they have printed money. If those companies cannot cover the cost of their corporate bonds with their liquidated assets, THEN the difference is effectively printed money.

It’s a very troubling development. And honestly, as an American who doesn’t want to see everything collapse around me and people slumming on the streets more than they already are, who doesn’t want to see a greater depression, think that is the best option. As long as they do it carefully. Shale frackers and cruise ships and other companies that were already up to their tits in debt they were never going to get out of shouldn’t get shit.

>> No.18043367

>>18042947
>They’re overnight loans to banks
yeah, with 'printed' money

>> No.18043386

>>18043367
With loans covered by collateral, US treasuries.
If they’re printing money every night then you might as well say they’re burning it every morning.

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>>18043171
will they buy chainlink

>> No.18043441

money isn't real

>> No.18044058

>>18043346
Does anyone ELSE hate when OTHER people type like THIS.

>> No.18044087

trump told the economy to go back up
chad trump

>> No.18044113

Did you sell? HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18044202

>>18042947
NOOOOO ITS TOO BIG TO FALLL WE NEED MORE BONUSES FOR OUR CEOS FOR SAVING THE MEME ECONOMY NOOOOOOO YOU CANT CALL ME A COMMIE BECAUSE TRUMP SAID HES NOT A COMMIE NOOOOO NOT MY STOKARINOOS

>> No.18044218

>>18042530
All that shit was priced in already, retard.

Tourism shutting down, auto industries shutting down, aircraft industry shutting down, etc was already priced in.

The price increase is because of new information that paints a more optimistic picture

Learn 2 markets.

>> No.18045247

Life will be hell for a long time

>> No.18045265

>>18042530
>50% unemployment
It's 30%.
Also, you should be scared once it stop going up.
The whole world should.

>> No.18045299

>stocks only go down in a straight line
where did all of these dumb bears come from

>> No.18045310

>>18042938
>you cant buy yourself a functioning economy
You can when you literally print unlimited money

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>>18042530
>they can pump T R I L L I O N S into this shit but cant give me a thousand dollars so i can buy FOOD?

>> No.18045370

>>18042530
because its all fucking speculation, perceptions, speculation, and they're literally playing monopoly with other peoples fake money

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>fed cant stop fucking pumping the $$ for billionaires who might lose several summer houses
>seems like the dems would lose anyway and by the time stimulus is approved, the fat cats peaced out
>corona chan would still be ravaging for at least june-july
>fucking retards still going for spring break and farmers markets
>unemployment up to 30%
>tfw all you have one off 1200-2400 neetbux
CLOWN USA

>> No.18045384

>>18043346
I think you're being kind of pedantic.
All anyone needs to understand is that the Fed can infinitely absorb bank assets as collateral and provide money in return to provide liquidity and attempt to stop the bleeding. Because this consulted chain of collaterized debt obligations is effectively meaningless in the face of what's happening, it doesn't seem inappropriate to use the phrase "printing money" for the sake of brevity.

>> No.18045390

>>18045384
Convoluted*** not consulted

>> No.18045394

>>18045310
No you cant. Printing money does not produce anything. It does not create wealth, and thus does not produce a functioning economy.

>> No.18045405

>>18042530
>50 percent is high unemployment

Umm actually sweetie, 50 percent uemployment was normal when women didn't work and old people could retire idiot

>> No.18045426

>>18042530
Seething Bobo btfo lmao lol at you

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>>18045405
>Umm actually sweetie
ironically or not, fucking kys

>> No.18045435

>>18045299
bears are dumb by design

>> No.18045465

>>18045405
Ackshully, to be unemployed means that you are applying for jobs. Simply not having a job does not classify you as unemployed.

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>>18042947

>Do a little research if you want to learn about this. The repo operations are not printing trillions. They’re overnight loans to banks.

the absolute state

>> No.18045512

>>18042530
Another dead cat bounce. Just check the charts. We're at the beginning of recession.

>> No.18045528

>>18042947
>The repo operations are not printing trillions. They’re overnight loans to banks. It’s a very bad sign and very worrisome but it’s not like they’re giving away money.
>
This info is over a week out of date.
They're gonna be purchasing MBS, Bonds and a shitload other stuff with fresh money.

>>18042530
>how is this going up?
Stock market is an abstraction.

>> No.18045535

>>18042742
kek
what are the chances they actually close the markets though? I got puts open that I want to profit off of to buy more BTC and UND before the end starts

>> No.18045547

we should change our currency to decentralized pattern to overcome this disadvantage, similarly we need to change our internet into decentralized protocol there are very few firms in world working on it one of them is #Tachyon protocol they have exciting services which have good potential in future to grow.

>> No.18045564

>>18042530
Trump is going to send people back to work, which is the right thing to do. This manufactured mass hysteria will fade and the corporate class will have extracted its bailout. We're near the bottom or we may have already reached it.

>> No.18045655

>>18045465
So NEETs are not unemployed?

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>>18045655
Correct.

>> No.18045698

>>18045512
checking 1hr candles, looks like a bottom desu

>> No.18045907

>>18042530
Is Trump really approving shitting out so much money?

>> No.18045952

>>18045564
>manufactured
Do you really think a virus is just going to stop existing because you don't believe in it?

>> No.18045984

>>18045952
bUt ItS nO wOrSe ThAn ThE fLu!
>>18045907
>>18042530
Wall Street correction in three hours, get those shorts ready. I'm sure it'll be another entertaining tug of war

>> No.18047100

>>18045678
That is such a smokescreen. I know it wasn't always measured that way. What is the ACTUAL unemployment in the US?

>> No.18047319

>>18042530
You should have went all in chainlink at 20 cents desu. you had 2 years.

next up : ARPA, but you probably won't listen to that either.

>> No.18047357

>>18043117
make number go up more!

>> No.18047407

>>18042752
>>18042530
>>18042538
>>18042558
>>18042650
>>18042721
It all goes to hell straight after the outbreak as it all fails to return to "normal" we're still in the calm before the storm

>> No.18047498

>>18042530
Are you stupid? Airliners and shit went up yesterday because of insider info where the rich were told Trump is going to lift restrictions, now Trump officially announced it so now the public is buying in. The restrictions will end soon

>> No.18047640

>>18042530
Are honestly fucking brain dead? It's speculation. Not everyone is flipping AMD day to day trying to make a profit.

Lemme guess, you took out a loan for puts? Baby's first stcok market foray?

>> No.18047643

>>18045321
Shattering my sides, this image

>> No.18047930

>>18045655
Were the women and old people of this generation

>> No.18048060

>>18045984
Holy fuck, it went the wrong way. I'll be on the end of a rope if you need me

>> No.18048148

>>18047498
Airlines went up because they are almost guaranteed a massive no strings attached bailout with the loans forgiven if they meet certain metrics.

>> No.18048263

>>18042530
Market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.

>> No.18048557

>>18047640
>Are honestly fucking brain dead?
LMAO

>> No.18048586

>>18044218
Anyone who claims anything is priced in at anytime is a brainlet

>> No.18049016

>>18044058
Only if its overused.

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>>18043117
>/biz/ doesn't understand the difference between stimulating and creating money
No wonder you guys spam memecoins

>> No.18049724

>>18042896
Because it’s a giant fucking Ponzi scheme you sexy anon you

>> No.18049742

>>18042947
>he thinks the banks are going to pay them back
Lol get a load of this got xD

>> No.18049788

This first wave of coronavirus is just the warning shot. All of the models are predicting a MUCH more severe outbreak next winter. This is just the first selloff.

>> No.18049813

>>18042530
>how is this going up?
hehehe, brrr!

>> No.18050033

>>18049788
Not a seasonal virus

>> No.18050096

>>18042530
If all the stocks go up, the wealthy retain their buying power. If the many are forced into unemployment they will have to sell their assets to live. Assets the wealthy will acquire cheaply... I hope you begin to understand now.

>> No.18050263

>>18049120
trying to sound smart but failing miserably, QE is literally creating money however you spin it. You're not intelligent.

>> No.18050268

>>18043322
>tfw you post about Japan economy before anyone does and two days later everyone is posting about Japan’s zombie economy like they are some kind of expert

>> No.18050401

>>18050096
Yeah I understand

>> No.18050406

>>18043346
>doesn’t want to see everything collapse around me
Go back you nu fag boomer

>> No.18050917

>>18042530
It's a forward looking indicator
It's clearly that the Corona circus was just a big scam

>> No.18050932

>>18042752
Lol no it's not. Maybe 5% have been laid off. If you were an adult you'd know.

>> No.18050977

>>18042530
It's called volatility. The market doesn't move on fundamentals, it moves on perception. Buyers/sellers push it up and down. This is normal during an economic crisis as investors are uncertain. Essentially, you're a fucking retard if you think the stock market is the economy.

>> No.18051020

>>18043068
Whatever number of repo loans you saw is probably wrong or misunderstood. The loans get paid back over night, or in some cases, within a few weeks/months. Repos aren't cumulative. Additionally, they're collateralized.

>> No.18051062

>>18042974
Positions?

>> No.18051073

>>18050263
Good thing creating money isn't inflation, but rather inflation is the rise in price of goods. You can print money without inflation.

>> No.18051193

>>18044218
Is the overleveraged buyback pumped market priced in? Is the junk bonds corporations packed priced in? The fluctuation of the USD? Oil prices? Surge capacity at hospitals? Continued systemic distress from multiple waves of CoV? Massive redistribution of wealth due to a highly contagious virus? What about projected decisionmaking in regards to working from home? And the effects it will have on energy? And the effects it will have on a gamut of industries?

Nah, this is Jerome and blind faith.

>> No.18051234

>>18051193
you're right

they'll print a quadrillion if they have too.

>> No.18051497

>>18051020
>They're just overnight loans bro

Yeah, overnight loans that roll over every day and have been going up parabolically since they started. They're collateralized with absolute hot fucking trash.

You guys have to go back. This is a Jeff Snider/ George Gammon board here and we don't go for that kike scam bullshit.

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WHY WON'T THIS BITCH COLLAPSE ALREADY FUUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKK

>> No.18051749

If you don't see this as bull trap set by the big shots of the game, you are up for a rude awakening.

>> No.18052001

somebody please hold me. I wanna sell my puts so bad

>> No.18052077

>>18050932
0 iq

>> No.18052250

>>18042530
It's easy, they print money, they buy. When you control the money machine, no liquidity crisis for you.

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>how is this going up?

>> No.18052646

>>18042530
Unless this virus is just a joke and the insiders know it’ll disappear soon and expect a quick recover there is no reason for it to go up. If this continues massive inflation will be coming soon. This is what will be the true devaluation of everything. The destruction of the dollar. This is how they insidiously keep the market looking like it’s afloat.

>> No.18052755

>>18042650
FUCK you for this picture

>> No.18052857

managed to close all my overconfident long positions from early march with just a bruise rather than a baseball bat to my face.
Thank you based fed. It can crash now for all I care

>> No.18052936

>>18052857
imagine being on the buy side right now
o.m.f.g. the big joke that's going to be dropped on you
just wait for it lol

>> No.18053065

>>18042752
Unemployment is not at 50%. What news are you following?

>> No.18053102

>>18045372
You realize they're bailing out institutions, not individuals, right?

That's your grandma's retirement the Fed is rescuing

>> No.18053156

>>18052936
wat? I sold my long position

>> No.18054914

>>18051497
Ok lobotomite.

>> No.18055608

>>18042538

This lol

Idiots seriously have no idea what's coming

>> No.18055688

>>18042530
Trump says he's ending the quarantine

>> No.18055789

>>18042947
Nigger, the Fed is buying worthless corporate debt, they're very much printing into the market right now

>> No.18055872

>>18055688
States are the ones issuing curfews and such not Trump

>> No.18055911

>>18042752
>>18042896

>the stock market isn’t the economy

This.

The full recession probably won't hit us until fall. The market is just being dumb as fuck

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heres another little economic redpill. Do you know why Ghadafi got bayonetted in his asshole by his own people? Was it because hillary just really wanted him dead? No, its because he wanted to break free from the US petrol dollar system. He wanted to start selling oil for gold. He didnt want our fiat garbage anymore. Now that couldnt be allowed to happen because then the first crack in the wall would start and it would be a matter of time before other oil producing nations followed suit. The reason our dollar is worth anything is because we are willing to end countries who dare not to use them. We have the biggest baddest military on the planet with the most nuclear capabilities and this is what gives the US Dollar its inherent value. Everyone is forced to buy oil (which runs the world) with our dollars. The only way the Dollar loses reserve currency status is if we lose WW3

>> No.18056032

>>18052755

It's a prop you fucking retard. In original it's a gif made by make-up artist harlowfx.

>> No.18056116

>>18055872
They're in the bargaining stage of grief
>I-it's only active in the cold!
>Th-there's a cure!
>Th-the quarantine's ending Trump said so!

>> No.18056169

>>18042938
Is it full locked up? At least here in Italy everyone worked

>> No.18056215

>>18055872
It's pretty hilarious that bulls think only having all the most productive states on quarantine lockdown is good news.

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brainlet here, how the fuck is hyperinflation even possible today? everybody knows what happened in the Weimar republic and countries like Venezuela and Zimbabwe. Surely nobody would knowingly go down this path

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>>18042530
>how is this going up?

>> No.18056272

>>18056025

Couldn't Ghadaffi just have sold the oil for dollars and use the dollars to buy gold?
Kind of a flimsy conspiracy lol.

>> No.18056320

>>18042530
Big stock investors, people who handle billions of dollars, will go through incredible lengths to get information.

Right now, there are nurses and doctors and probably hospital presidents getting paid a nice bribe by hedge funders to leak the latest information. They know shit days before everyone else.

The malaria drug trials on corona virus pneumonia patients have probably shown very positive results consistent with what was found in other countries. NYC started a very large trial today. If it goes well, within a few days the world will know and the panic will take a huge step back.

The hedge funders might already know.

>> No.18056462

>>18042530
a clown world would be one where you couldn't pump stocks by pumping infinite amount of USD into them

>> No.18056475

>>18056272
he wanted to start his own national bank on the gold standard. he could of done what you said but he would still be under our influence and control. By trying to be his own boss he threatened the system we have build and therefore had to die.

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>>18042530

Is this the biggest bulltrap humanity has ever witnessed?

>> No.18056571

>>18042538
This is what I love about bull traps.

>> No.18056613

>>18053102
>he thinks this will go towards rescuing the institution and not to the CEO's enormous bonuses and severance packages next year

simp alert

>> No.18056614

>>18056239
In context of debt, if most debt is owned by foreign entities than inflation would rise wildly, if debt is owned by government it actually causes deflation. Total foreign debt amounts to 16 percent of us debt owned so make what you will

>> No.18056712

https://www.ft.com/content/052f4932-6de2-11ea-89df-41bea055720b
OH GOD RUN RUN RUN

>> No.18056715

>>18042752
Stock markets have been based off fictitious capital for years it only accelerated after '08 and under Trump.

>> No.18056835

>>18056320
The cure has been found and they already know it.

>> No.18056839
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>>18052594

>> No.18056890

>>18053102
Crony capitalism at its best.
>institution makes bad decisions
>institution crashes
>fed bails out institution because "muh people"
>insitution proceeds to fuck over "muh people" with the support of the federal government none the less
You might as well nationalize those institutions, the effect is the same but nationalizing them is cheaper.

>> No.18057105

>>18055911
>The full recession probably won't hit us until fall.
My god you're fucking stupid.
A recession is two or more quarters of negative growth.
This virus basically created a market correction. What we're seeing now is the market trying to correct itself again, which will mean it's going to go up.
Tons of other countries are still reeling and floundering. The United States is getting shit together early so that we're an even more dominant economy. Getting ahead of the curve is the most important- the worst thing we can do is open our economy back up AFTER everyone else does.

>> No.18057794

>>18043386
US treasuries yes- but the US govt is broke ( running twin deficits of over $ 1 trillion per year)
so, govt gets fed to print money out of thin air to exchange for US treasuries, which are then somehow legitimate collateral

>> No.18057939

>>18045655
NEETs are not umemployed, they are not counted in the unemployment statistics. If you haven't been looking for job for more than 12 months they "forget" about you.

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>>18042530

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*jewing intesifies*

>> No.18058402

tried to tell you, it was just a flu bro

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>>18042530
tell me biz- i-its not really happening, r-right?

>> No.18058726

>>18051020
>The loans get paid back over night, or in some cases, within a few weeks/month
Lmao
>Repos aren't cumulative
Bwahahahah!

>> No.18058798

>>18047100
There are published numbers, I can't be assed to look it up. There is a different term they use for people who are disinterested in being hired.

>> No.18058805

>>18057105
>The United States is getting shit together early so that we're an even more dominant economy
Holy shit, it really is comedy club this afternoon

>> No.18059090

>>18042530
Let me rephrase that:
>auto industries about to re-open
>entertainment industries about to re-open
>tourism about to re-open
>aircraft industries about to re-open
>travel industries about to re-open
>50% unemployment highest in HISTORY will be literal history in a month
>faggot government won't hand out CoronaBux
>cheap oil
>deaths and cases about to be ignored and aren't that dramatic anyway
>literally everyone can leave their house again soon

>all the while stocks are at bargain prices

Suddenly, it's not so mysterious anymore.

>> No.18059131

>>18059090
imagine being such a retard bobo that you seriously bought the "and there will never be a car made or sold every again" meme

>> No.18059156

>>18042530

I'm 30 years old and making $60k a year. I used to think this was a lot of money when I was a kid, and at that time it was. Now it isn't shit. It isn't shit because of what the Federal Reserve and boomers have done to this piece of shit country.

On my way home from work today I drove by some modest 3BR/3BA homes that were being built and the sign out front said "starting at $800k". When you consider a 20 year loan that final price on that home will be about $1.3 million. When you consider taxation, you would need about $1.7 million of pretax income to afford the home. And that's not even counting property tax, insurance and that other bullshit...

$1.7 FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS TO AFFORD A REASONABLE FAMILY HOME. WE LIVE IN CLOWN WORLD AND EVEN IF I END UP WITH BULLET HOLES I WANNA SEE THIS SHIT BURN. BURN IT ALL. FUCKING BURN IT ALL. CRASH THE MARKETS BURN THE GOVERNMENT WE NEED A HARD RESET ON THIS CLOWN FUCKING BULLSHIT.

>> No.18059167

>>18056839
https://brrr.money/

>> No.18059233

>>18059156
wait for the dip and become a landlord

>> No.18059410

>>18059233

Planning on it. Currently living in a family friend's basement and paying him $500 a month.

Got $30k saved. Just waiting for this shit to pop and go buy a foreclosure.

>> No.18059593

>>18042530
They're not actually printing money, they're just adding 0's to a spreadsheet cell. Giving Americans money would mean actually printing. They should just let every American legally add 6 0's to the end of every single dollar bill. $100 bills will be worthless but $1 will be the king currency. Then the fed doesn't have to print anything.

>> No.18059773

>>18051073
thats literally the cause of inflation. More money printed than goods being produced = rising prices aka inflation

>> No.18059803

>>18052755
leave this website faggot

>> No.18059833

>>18059156
ok boomer

>> No.18059898

>>18042947
A good crisis in which no one is protected will make the system stronger as it can then learn from its failures. Too big to fail is anti-capitalistic.

>> No.18059956

>>18044218
Pricing in a crisis of which you dont know how long it will last? Seems legit

>> No.18060006

>>18056025
Bruh we buy Oil here in the euro zone from countries with euros what are you on about?

>> No.18060029

>>18051073
>inflation is the rise in price of goods
Which is measured in money.

>> No.18060474

>>18060006
Not with Euros, you don't.

>> No.18060520

>>18060474
We quite literally do. Norwegian, Russian and Iranian oil gets always paid for with euros.

>> No.18060549

>>18056571
but trump was bragging about how the market had its best day in history and how they knew the country was gonna get back to normal.... surely trump knows more about the stock market than /biz/ users??

>> No.18060644

>>18060549
He is a politician. This is what politicians do whatever side they are on.

>> No.18060688

>>18042530
should I put all my cash in a reverse ETF?

>> No.18060696

>>18042650
Wtf is this

>> No.18060740

>>18059593
interdasting. capped.

>> No.18060968

>>18042530
I dont even made a buck so youre better than me . I have literally 21 dollars in my bank account

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>>18045299
Im screwed anyway

>> No.18061406

>>18058726
>The loans get paid back over night, or in some cases, within a few weeks/month
>Lmao
But I thought they do get back. The government ended up making a profit from all the bailouts they gave the banks in 2008

>> No.18061429

>>18059156
Where do you live where housing starts at $800k?

>> No.18061430

>>18059090
>>18059131
thank you both

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>>18045372
this may be the big one if our government doesn't get its act together right fucking now.

>~25% of rentals will be late on the first due to layoffs, resulting in some smaller, but still large number (10%?) of mortgages to go late on unpaid in August Neither the republican or democrat bill addresses this reality
>mortgage industry gets hit super hard, poorly positioned banks go tits up as cash flow receeds
>courts aren't willing to instantly evict or foreclose.
>a nation without savings, plus the FED pumping money into the top of the economy while cornonachan renders half the labor force, unemployable and pennyless, effectively removing half the 'blood pressure' from our economy.
>slow inept response to corona chan results in several million infections within the next couple weeks, tens of thousands of deaths
>second panic hits grocery stores as deaths quickly rise into the thousands. Once your local community has it's first couple reported, expect the stores to empty again, this time losing enough staff to seriously impact restocking/supply chain
>May hits, virus is still on the loose, the economy hasn't improved and even those well prepared are forced to decide between bills or food. Congress agrees on some halfassed tax return, too little too late.
>mid may, the mortgage industry and derivative markets both implode from lack of cash flow and government response
>rinse and repeat of 2008, including bailing out a bunch of jew banks while the common man is left hanging
>legit civil unrest becomes common as the wu flu finally dies down through the summer.

>> No.18061449

>>18042530
Prep the bull, bearcuck

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>>18042530
AAAAH I'M GONNA COOF BRO IT'S LITERALLY JUST A FLU WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS

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>>18042530
how much did you lose today anon?

>> No.18061593

>>18059090
>implying people will continue working
Once people see that their relatives are dying from this shit the market will bleed. And so will our people in suits from minecraft of course

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>>18045299
nigger newfags that always come in to join the hype
its too typical
>some market instrument does a big move up or down
>lots of newfags jump on board to FOMO all their wagebucks
>90% lose everything

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>>18061601

>> No.18061654

>>18061488
you're clearly a neet with no real friends

>> No.18061686

>>18059773
If the price of goods isn't going up, then money printed is irrelevant. Also, the economy is more than goods.
>>18060029
Yes, and if there is more money printed but the price remains the same, there was little to no inflation.

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>>18042530
The following is truer read on what's happening and why over a virus.

>The coup that has been waged from the left against the right is an all-out global political war. >They succeeded in bringing Germany to its knees and surrender its culture of austerity. >Here in the United States, the Democrats have coordinated with these dark forces seeking not only same-day registration to allow illegal aliens to vote and overrule actual working Americans, but tucked in their proposals we find the seeds to cancel US paper dollars as well which is the political agenda in Europe.
>The Democrats are trying to use this economic collapse which is increasingly looking like it has been staged by the Deep State & the WHO of the United Nations to further the Marxist agenda because they know the system is collapsing. >Therefore, as the markets crash, the Democrats include in their demands for a massive stimulus package the creation of a ‘digital dollar’ and the establishment of ‘digital dollar wallets.’ As I have warned, they will simply outlaw cryptocurrencies and probably take blockchain for themselves. This has been the covert agenda of the IMF for some time now.

>https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/the-democrats-plot-against-americans/

>> No.18063747

>>18059090
Lmao, the industries are not going to open in one week.

>> No.18064209

>>18042947
Yeah, except you can post fucking anything as collateral against the repos now, and they have said they will buy unlimited paper.