/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>18094814
>banned shorting

finally, go back to work wagies. lazy fucks, no suprise that you are poor

Don’t care. Bitcoin is still going to continue the moon mission

>>18094814
I'm so fucking excited! We finally get to focus on healthcare and its finally fucking in your face important. Fucking bullish on my end of care

>>18094814
Unlike Spain and Italy, we don't kiss and hug each other whenever we greet people. Also, we don't all live in multigenerational families. Spain and Italy are not representative of what most of the world has gone through and what the U.S. will go through.

>>18095529
*multigenerational houses
also we have fewer old people. These 3 points combined summarize what I'm trying to say. I'm not claiming its just a flu-thousands of Americans are going to die and we will definitely see a recession in the next few months. But you're making it out to be way worse than it is.

>>18095529
Yes, it's going to be much worse here. We're literally healthcare retarded and we love to scream. I've already checked out the temporary hospitals we're building, HUGE.

This is gonna be so good man. We're gonna have some grade A healthcare after this is burned into people's memories.

>>18095529
Yeah, we're much worse off. A third of this country still thinks this is some kind of liberal fearmongering hoax and are going about as normal

>>18095529
>we don't kiss and hug each other whenever we greet people. Also, we don't all live in multigenerational families. Spain and Italy are not representative
You forgot to price in the US lack of welfare and healthcare. You’ll have people infecting each other because they don’t get help in time because of the sticker price. You’ll have feral packs of niggers robbing people month two. The injuries from those attacks will have no ER spots because your ERs are clogged with no insurance illegals and coronapatients fill up the ICU.

>>18095572
You have twice as many landwhales. The majority of the US is considered to be part of an at risk group. Consider you nation canceled.

>>18095529
>this fucking meme again
i'm from Lombardy, we don't live in a 1950 movie
multigenerational houses are extremely rare, at worst some grandparents live in a separate apartment of the same house their children and grandchildren live in, but the vast majority of old people lives in retirement homes or in their own house
in fact the vast majority of deaths come from retirement homes and hospitals

hugging and kissing is also not our custom, it's far more common further south

>>18095529
Yeah we're also massively obese, full of underlying conditions, making people pay their monthly salary to get tested (God knows how much they have to pay if they actually get it and need treatment), have a tonne of buffets and trash fast food that has zero hygiene standards (especially those staffed by niggers and spics, AKA all of them), and a government that isn't doing shit. Italy has the 4th highest life expectancy in the world, if their healthcare is getting fucked, imagine ours.

That's not to mention the amount of schizos and guns we have. What happens when you try to quarantine armed schizo retards who have been screaming about FEMA death camps for the past decade? Losing healthcare workers and police to schizos who burst out of their house guns blazing when told to quarantine is going to thin out the response even more.

>>18095691
mate can you explain to me what the go is with 'roman' accents. are they different or looked down upon?

>>18095529
fuck burgers are retarded, oh my god

>>18095613
>A third of this country still thinks this is some kind of liberal fearmongering hoax
Source?

>>18094814
Do you know what? FUCKING PRICED IN, don't be sad that you have missed the bottom. 20years from now you will have your opportunity again. WE PERMA FUCKING BULL NOW

>>18095691
Then why is Italy's outbreak so much worse than other countries?

>>18095754
you mean roman accent when speaking italian? yes it's very distinctive but they're widely accepted because of their prevalence in media (all cinema, tv and radio was produced in Rome up to the 1990s)
it's considered "funny" because comedians exagerated the accent while more serious media used more schoolbook italian

you have to consider italian is a very artificial language used only for literature that nobody spoke prior to 1861

>>18095844
Yeah. Theres an italian youtuber i follow who talks about cars - I had someone tell me he speaks funny and made fun of his region of italy (rome?) accent and said it sounded silly. But to me an english only speaker - to me it sounded like normal italian.

I didn't know italian is an artificial language, do you have any more information about that? It sounds really interesting. Are you italian? Stay safe out there

>>18095832
because we were first in the west to get it, we're 1-2 weeks ahead of everybody else and took measures when the spread was already vast
Spain, France, the UK and the US are on their way to match us because despite our example they still refused to take measures

>>18094814
What's the big deal? Less brown people is better

>>18095785
He meant 55%. Forgive him. He's a bit slow.

>>18095899
So, no source?

>>18095832
Population demographics - they have the oldest population in the EU and the disease gets exponentially more lethal the older you are, ceteris parabus.

The US has tho most critical care meds per capita out of all countries. The virus is not a big deal and only harms old people and those with preexisting conditions like obesity. In other words nothing of value will be lost. Fuck off with your gay yuropoor shit.

>>18095832
There are a lot things that drive how badly each area will do.

>traffic/testing fuckups (containment failures)
The more people coming through the area, especially internationally, the more index cases you get. The more cases you have come through and start undetected spread early on, the worse your pandemic is. An area with 2 patient zeros will do twice as badly as an area with 1 until the infections from what are effectively 2 separate outbreaks on top of each other start to compete for victims and the ratio drops. Travel matters less the further into a pandemic you go since 1 more person spreading on top of thousands is not a massive increase, but multiple patient zeroes close together early on will fuck an area.

This is magnified by testing kit fuckups since outbreaks can potentially be traced and contained if you test people.

>pop. density/public transport/events/dipshittery by the public and leadership (mitigation failures)
The more people you have interacting with each other, the faster spread you get. Even a small change in reproduction number will result in a large change in infected the further into a pandemic you go. If you combine this with the public not listening to health officials and leadership pulling a Jaws and refusing to close the beaches, you get turbofucked.

>shit luck
A random tourist spreading the disease to your area 3 weeks before everywhere else with 3 day doubling means you're 128 times more fucked than everywhere else until you slow down and they catch up.

>>18096007
Lol we aint buyin dat

>>18095832
chain smokers

>>18095863
sure
modern italian is based on the language medieval poets Dante and Petrarca used, a local Tuscan dialect with some influences by other regional evolutions of latin, since that was the standard language for literature used from the reinassance up to modern times
so only the intellectual elite (not even the political elite, as the clergy used latin and most rulers latin and then french in the 700-800s) used this language, the people, even the rich merchants, used local "languages" still quite close to each other and mutually intelligible due to their common origin in Latin, but still very different
since pretty much each city was independent to a degree, each evolved its own particular dialect

when Italy was unified they promoted the language used by the intellectual elite because they needed to promote unity (so no local dialects) nationalism (so no foreign languages like french) and secularism (so no latin), so what was pretty much exclusively a written language originally designed for poetry was adopted as a spoken language and through mass alphabetization became what everybody speaks today, even if with different accents that are the inheritance of the dialects everybody spoke up to two generations ago

thank you bud, you too

>>18095933
>The March 18-24 poll, released on Tuesday, found that 68% of U.S. adults agreed that the virus was a serious existential threat, up 14 percentage points from a similar poll that ran last week.
Reuters. But frankly anyone that thinks Trump is doing a good job doesn't understand how bad this will be and he's polling at 60% last I checked on this.

>>18096086
That doesn't say what he said at all.

>>18095613
>>18096086

>>18096105
I think they both might be a bit slow.

>>18095819
Stay poor retard

>>18095574
>We're gonna have some grade A healthcare after this is burned into people's memories.

The currency is about to collapse as well. So the only way that happens is the free market is allowed to take over after we minecraft all the bankers and start using gold or Bitcoin as money.

>>18095881
Add Australia to that list. We're continuing to do fuck all. I unironically think our government is going for the herd immunity strategy in the hope.that they can avoid a recession.

>>18096007
>pre existing conditions like obesity

So you're actually saying America is double fucked

>>18094814
but i was told only socialism resulted in death panels and healthcare rationing?

>>18094814
DRNS my stinky linky

>>18096218
It does, even under normal circumstances.

>>18095832
There was a factory full of Wuhan workers right at the epicenter in Italy

>>18094852
Yeah, we need more corporate socialism. We cant allow Bezos losing money

Spain is fucked, check this out
https://youtu.be/ePSZPb02bMw

>>18094814
>be American
>get COVID-19
>go bankrupt

>>18095960
German are also old as fuck but Germany is able to handle it and is even treating Italian patients now.

>>18096265
the epicenter is in Bergamo and originally Lodi, not particularly big chinese community there (a grand total of 5000 individuals over a population 1.5 million inhabitants
what you're thinking of is Prato, in Tuscany, where the textile industry has been taken over by Wenzhou (not Wuhan) chinese workers
it's nowhere near the epicenter

don't believe twitter blue thingies

>>18096300
kek imagine the obese in america blocking the hallway. One amerifat infected = no one can enter the hallway anymore

>>18096206
I'm saying the exact opposite of that. Not fucked at all and every one is happy because we're better off this way.

>>18096302
we can't let Bezos lose more profits by making him actually pay taxes to help people in dire need of medical treatment. Now back to your wage slave concentration camp - err, I mean - amazon fullfillment center.

>>18095691
>Italy is characterized by extensive intergenerational contacts which are supported by a high degree of residential proximity between adult children and their parents. Even when inter-generational families do not live together, daily contacts among non-co-resident parent-child pairs are frequent. According to the latest available data by the Italian National Institute of Statistics, this extensive commuting affect over half of the population in the northern regions. These intergenerational interactions, co-residence, and commuting patterns may have accelerated the outbreak in Italy through social networks that increased the proximity of elderly to initial cases.
https://osf.io/fd4rh/?view_only=c2f00dfe3677493faa421fc2ea38e295

>>18096080
thanks for the reply mate very interesting :)

>>18096253
LINK LAW
the longer a conversation goes on the more likely a chainlinker will show up and bring up the token even in a thread that has NOTHING to do with chainlink.

>>18095617
"No insurance illegals" don't come to hospitals. They're too scared of being deported.

>>18095529
You are fucked, keep telling yourself that.
THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING FLU.
t. Spaniard.

Bullish for $nCoV coronacoin

>>18095613
>Yeah, we're much worse off. A third of this country still thinks this is some kind of liberal fearmongering hoax and are going about as normal

the death count since november around the glove is stunningly low. ofcourse people rush to hospitals now everybody who has a fever thinks they are going to die