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Holy shit lol

Noooooooo DF what are you doing????

*scuttles your earnings*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHGd6LqAVzw

This is the Jeff Bezos of China

MUMU ARE YOU OK

>>18270715
Just teleport the milk to all of the needy people! It's that easy!

VIX stop dropping you fucking slut

Idiot bulls bought the top again

FIVE LETTERS IN COVID = 5G
CHINA 5G = STEAMROLLED BY VIRUS
UK 5G = STEAMROLLED BY VIRUS
SOUTH KOREA 5G = STEAMROLLED BY VIRUS
BAN 5G NOW

Greetings Bobo, The Plunge Protection Team will begin operations in approximately 71 minutes.

You have been warned

>>18270694
is VTMGX a good long term buy?

thinking about making that my long term ex-US holding and also fuck China

>RTX still getting dumped in pieces
What defense stocks aren't memes?
>this volume
Either small pump at EOD or we zombie our way into -3%

>>18270744
:(

Where's that accumulate REFR nigger
It's time for a reckoning

my heart is hammering bobros

THIS IS NOT FUNNY ANYMORE, JEROME

>>18270751
i swear to god if people are bull into the weekend, holy shit.

DO WHAT MUST BE DONE
DO NOT HESITATE
SHOW NO MERCY
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>>18270701
We cash for clunkers now

Someone shill SAVA to me.

>>18270715
Meanwhile niggers in Africa are subsidized into economic submission

How exactly is a leveraged ETF valued? It trades on an exchange, so is the ETF's value:

1) mathematically determined, by something like
ETF(t) = ETF(t-1)*Leverage*Underlying(t)/Underlying(t-1)

2) determined by supply and demand?

so if the SP500 drops 3%, does SPXS automatically drop 9% as per some price-determination algorithm? If so how does bid/ask even work?

V shaped recovery when??

>>18270756
>VTMGX
no

Go bored of index etfs so just sold all of them and started a pandemic themed portfolio. Pretty fun actually. So glad Schwab went commission free.

>>18270787
Last 15 minutes like always, especially before a weekend, you're going to see everyone short this week cover their positions all at once.

JEROME

ARE YOU THERE JEROME

THE PHONE LINE ISN'T RESPONDING

JEROME PLEASE DONT KILL YOURSELF

JEROME

JEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18270787
V shape cancelled
L shape confirmed.

>>18270715
this is bullish actually

>>18270789
thanks for the insight faggot

buy more puts you fucking brokeboi

MELANIAAAA WHERE IS JEROME'S NUMBER I HAD IT WRITTEN ON MY DESK YESTERDAY

>>18270751
The Bogs have one final move to play, PPT. Don't force their hand.

Anyone else studying up?

I think Jerome just forgot to charge his phone and can't access Robinhood right now. We need to wait until it charges a bit.

>>18270746
take your haloperidol pill

>>18270715
no, as many, they are using covid as excuse of bad business. cow's milk was going out of business anyways, people see it as too unhealthy and 80% of population are some degree lactose intolerant

>>18270783
You could have read a full explanation in the time it took you to type that post. Stop trying to reinvent wheels and use your ADD for something physically productive.

oil mooning
anybody counting on a last hour dump of people wanting to avoid holding through the OPEC meeting?

Why is UCO pumping right now????

>>18270834
What book?

>>18270800
comfy

>the fucking state of this economy

JEROOOOOOOOOOME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18270833
> 2.3% down
> notgoodnotbad.jpg
They will save their load for a -7% day.

>>18270834
>Cash secured puts
Hello? Based department?

>>18270783
answer my quesiton faggots

>>18270783
ETFs that track indexes trade near NAV, the market maker makes sure that that happens.

Value stocks or growth stocks? Dividends or pure capital gains?

YOU FUCKING BULLS IF YOU DIDNT GO UP YESTERDAY WE WOULDNT BE IV CRUSHED AHHHH

>>18270834
yeah I took one look at AAL and said I'm buying at 4:25 today and holding until 2022

>>18270862
A very thick book
>Options as a Strategic Investment, 4th edition

>>18270860
um. because

>>18270783
I'd guess the price (bid/ask) is determined by supply and demand and if the price is significantly different from the value there is opportunity for arbitrage

>>18270860
bc i bought puts im sry :(

>>18270887
AAL vs UAL?

>>18270878
so it's not actually possible for people to arbitrarily choose to trade an ETF at random-ass price points, somebody is forcing the bid-ask spread to be around this certain range?

when does the real red start

>sell an atm covered call and an itm short put at the same strike price

literally no way to lose

There is no EOD sugar daddy coming to buy up your bags today. Last hour will be down hard going into another uncertain weekend.

>>18270893
>>18270783
Large difference in bid and ask are given to the brokerage/trading house as fees. Like hidden commissions.

>>18270893
How would you be arbing an ETF?

>>18270913
hope those commissions are free

>>18270908
when you sell

>>18270866
Just added Zoom Video, realized that I left a lot of tech out. Probably will add Cisco too.

>>18270908
All the funds actually deleveraged already. There is not much blood left in the market, and some big investors are already pricing 2021 P/E ratios and carefully tipping their toes. We are also well informed on the economic damage done by the virus and there is not much uncertainty left on that. Why would it dump even harder in your opinion?

>FUCK YOU JEROME I HATE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>18270947
this needs to get pink

>>18270800
so much fat on that list

can someone explain this:

>>18270852
>>18270852

>>18270852
>>18270852


why would a slight world cutback be super bullish for american oil companies? either way they are going to be losing a ton and will proabbly need gov loans to avoid bankruptcy

>>18270913
What if it just dumps, you get assigned more on the put side and then it dumps even more?
I tried to adjust to a similiar strategy by adding some bear credit spreads along with covered calls, still figuring out an optimal ratio to play with.

is there a stock market simulator i can fuck around with

>>18270907
Generally yes but can happen some problem with prices like with corpbond etf last month but that's related to the low liquidity of the asset.

>>18270755
LMT

>>18270942
All that has been lost so far is the massive overheating from the recent bull euphoria since 2018. We haven't begun to account for the viruses effect yet.

>>18270942
when people cant pay their mortgages in the next 3-6 months and the banks arent getting their money

What is the evidence that oil production might actually get scaled back? My thoughts are putin is it for the long game and is gonna do this until US shale is dead and buried so as to grab larger market share. I don't know if he is also planning some sort of societal disruption in saudi arabia (secondary to crashing economy with or without clandestine operations) to further decrease opposition oil production.

>>18270938
>Zoom Video
its going to dump

>oil keeps mooning

I see a lot of anons are eyeing XOM or RDS for long term holds because of their cheapness right now, but no mention of BP. Is anyone looking at scooping up some BP on the cheap?

>>18270923
by having enough money to purchase/redeem entire creation units

>>18270979
Buy UCO instead retard, its leveraged and isn't just america. Although you should know that the global price of oil DOES effect the american price of oil. So USO is fine, its just UCO is leveraged bull

PUMP DFS JEROME
I WARN YOU

So if we go as low as we did in 2008 percentage wise that means we'll see SPY at 149 by the time this is all over and done with. Do you guys think this will be as bad as 2008?

Seriously, why the fuck has CNBC gone full doomer mode right now, they were the ones pleading the president to reopen the economy just last week

>>18270986
robinhood

>>18270986
eve online

>>18271006
shitload of people are going to cash in these gains in the last hour

>>18271008
and wtf is a creation unit?

>>18271021
>CNBC gone full doomer mode
incredibly bullish

>>18271032
I'm probably one of them :^)

>>18271022
kek

>>18270860
Everyone is expecting an OPEC deal on monday

>>18271020

>>18270994
the mortgages will be bought by the Fed or be told by gov't that we will back stop you. The banks might negotiate with client themselves

Bruhs, should I close my USO (buy)? I'm +37% green atm.

I hurt myself today

>>18270986
paper trading thinkorswim

>>18270986
TD ameritrade calls its trading platform ThinkOrSwim, and if you have an account with them, you can log in to the "paper money" option, where they give you a fake account with 200K and you can simulate live trades

>>18270991

this feels like bullshit to me. economy has changed a shit ton since 2008

>>18271020
Probably not since we have trump this time

>>18271038
i did last time it went below 28. don't regret it at all

>>18271020
i would feel good at 120, but we likely won't get there. it should be about as bad as 08 in the short term, but the market wont let s&p under 1800. thats my guess

>>18270982
just use gold etf options, literally free money

>>18271058
Yeah, corporate debt is much higher than it was in 2008

SQQQ chad here, 1200 @ $24. Do I hold into the weekend? I’ve got about $3k left to invest, should I buy VIX or what?

>>18271049
I'm up 26% and I'm thinking the same thing.

>>18271069
UNLESS we somehow don't get orange man back in office. if he's voted out. shit will tank even harder.

I noticed SPY lags behind the S&P by a few seconds does any know why that is?

>>18271083
buy an index fund you fucking degenerate

>>18271083
go all in on TVIX and hold over weekend, thank me later

>>18270727
wow, actually glad I clicked. He has some real insights but pretty dumb outlook overall

>>18270986
RuneScape grand exchange. Flip raw materials like logs, ores, etc.

Who here riding the /AAL +300% 2023/ train?
Just bought 60 shares.

>>18270916
I have to wait til Wednesday til I get more money in my account. Hopefully it keeps crashing between now and then :)

>>18271014
thanks. are you holding options or the stock itself? im looking at the 2022 calls this would definitely be a long play

>>18271083
look at the trendline on vix for the last month and tell me if that would be smart.

>>18271099
Checked. We’re not at the bottom yet. My plan is once all this shit clears up I’m dumping $30k into VTSAX.
>>18271100
Kinda what I was thinking. Volatility isn’t going anywhere in this clown market.

Satan is buying

Actual strategy thats literally impossible to lose money on

>sell atm covered calls and buy itm puts at the same price
>if the premium on the calls is higher or the same you make money no matter what

>>18271115
easily the play for anyone the few here that don't have ADD

If you truly believe in an EOD dump you'd buy some slightly OTM puts. If you truly believe in EOD pump, you'd buy some slightly OTM puts. Obviously not on high IV shit like SPY though.

fucking hell lads, I saw somebody here post a gif of Dawn from Pokemon laying prone on a beanbag chair wiggling her hips left and right. I saved the thumbnail by mistake. Who here's got it?

ive got 4k to blow - calls or puts for monday?

>>18270938
Did you not read about recent hacks?

Why is T tanking so hard? Is it not supposed to be a defensive stock? I assume their debt load is severe (not that bad compared to most companies though) and they won't be able to actually rise prices for their services for a long time, also won't be able to unload assets they've been selling to offset debt, but still they already dropped more than SPY and offer a huge dividend gain that can be locked in right now.
What am I missing?

>dow jones literally kept alive by boeing alone
This is Jerome's market lever

>>18270701
>>18270787
>Muh V-shaped recovery
V as in NEVER
>W-wait whattabout U-shaped recovery
U fag
>Noooooo L-shaped recovery noooooo
Loser


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>>18271163
>What am I missing?
Tons of stock buybacks pumping them up for the last 7 years

>>18271156
>Monday
puts you tard

>>18271154
u wot m8

>>18271090
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/032615/how-etf-arbitrage-works.asp

Read this if you want to learn why

>>18271137
>once all this shit clears up I’m dumping $30k into VTSAX
whats the bottom

>>18271154
nice fucking thumbnail retard

>>18271034
https://www.etf.com/etf-education-center/etf-basics/what-is-the-creationredemption-mechanism?nopaging=1
>For instance, if an ETF is designed to track the S&P 500 Index, the authorized participant will buy shares in all the S&P 500 constituents in the exact same weights as the index, then deliver those shares to the ETF provider. In exchange, the provider gives the authorized participant a block of equally valued ETF shares, called a creation unit. These unit are usually formed in blocks of 50,000 shares.

>>18271170
Look at the energy sector.

>>18271163
you're underesting the shit-ton of debt they have

plus directv was a huge fuck up

plus hbo max hasn't launched yet

plus leverage is always dangerous even for T

>>18271176
I got that pic in this general but I saved the thumbnail by accident. Somebody here has got it so I want to know if they can repost
>>18271187
yes that's my point you bully faggot

>>18271156
Don’t do anything for Monday. The oil news could inflate the market

>>18271119
I'm going to hold the stock in medium term. If oil prices moon back to where they were the shares should rocket to at least $8, hopefully more like $12 or $14. Either way I am holding shares until I get at least a 4x on my money.

>>18270715
You wanna get really mad? Google "agricultural adjustment act". Farmer kikes are controlling prices artificially just like oil. They do it so we all have to pay out the ass for milk and bread when we shouldn't have to

Waiting for the crisis to peak in america next week before I buy.

rate it boys

>>18271049
>>18271085
its a tough decision i cant decide either. one the one hand its guaranteed profit, on the other hand in just a few days after results from monday it might go up 10x. im lenaing towards russia and SA making some form of short term agreement to keep themselves from going totally bankrupt. long term from all that im reading and hearing on news right now it seems oil is going to stay low priced for a long time. probably over a year or more

>>18271115
Easy money if they don't go belly up. The risk of some airlines bankrupting is serious.

>>18271190
How do I trade creation units, then? Are they OTC?
Speaking of which, how do actual banks and hedge funds trade their shit? Surely they don't make their picks and then hand them off to the intern on TD Ameritrade to buy and sell kek. Does Bloomberg let you do it directly or something?

Accumulate REFR cheapies under 2

>>18271209
>he thinks this is going to peak only just next week

>>18271100
>>18271120
>>18271137
i just watched an analyst on bloomberg explain taht VIX is under pressure to get smaller and will probably continue to shrink because of all the central bank and gov manipulation to stabilize the economy

Is anyone's 401k in a Target retirement fund? The expense ratio is killing me but my company barely offers anything else.

>>18271029
He asked for a simulator, not an actual economy.

>>18271209
i hold vow3 bags too
about to kill myself

Has anyone done backtesting on picking companies with minimal buybacks? If I held something like an airline stock and realized 96% of their free cash went back into equity, it's like if I discovered by girl friend was sucking her own dick.

FUCKING VIX AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

If 240 gives 220 is the next support

>>18271154
here ya go dumbass

>>18271209
i'd dip out of hospitatlity in exchange for a small amount of retail. I don't know truist, and have strong preference for payments processors and insurance.

>>18271181
Don't know yet anon. I'm waiting for the death rates to peak and the economy to open up again. Until then, I'm shorting.

Mumu I am coming for ya

>>18271154
absolutely degenerate

What's next week's prediction

>>18271209
dump the hospitality that shit will take longer to recover
but the rest is pretty good, would go 40/20/40 respectively with oil leading the misc

>>18271209

coronavirus won't be over just because the curve is going to be flattened this month.

it can easily come back in full force if nothing is done about it.

It won't be over until it is vaccinated (assuming it is even vaccinatable), or a very effective treatment is developed.

>>18271257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq3abPnEEGE

>>18271238
I laughed way too hard at this

wtf happened with $UWT

>>18271004
Had to add it just to capture the meme, only 1 share for now. Put Cisco in and kind of want to add Thermo Fisher. It's interesting how many pharma companies trade in the US as adrs with fees attached, I'm not gonna scoop any of those up.

>>18271209
Wayyy too overweight on travel. What if there is a second wave? You won’t see consumers flying for 2 years.

>>18271243
thanks sempai
>>18271255
I had a crush on Dawn when I was a kid, so jacking to her is gonna be nostalgic and comfy >tfwnogf

>>18271261
Or everyone who’s susceptible to it has died.

FUCKING RTX REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18270906
both but AAL because cheaper

>>18271204
i guess the downside isnt too bad, the stock is already rock bottom from its 5 year average. you are right thats probably the less risky move, i will follow your lead

Get ready for power hour.

Buy your calls while you still can /biz/ros

>>18271154
Ever heard of image search? There's a high res gif in the first fucking result

>>18271238
>boeing was so good at sucking its own dick it got 12 billions trumpbux
That is some legendary self dick sucking

>>18271273
need this answer

>>18271209
i wouldnt do anything with hospitality or airlines. nobody is going to be vacationing for years. this shit is going to scar people. corona is going to take a while to get rid of also.

Markets are closed in just the US next Friday? Or elsewhere as well?

>>18271273
it got delisted! They announced it like 5 weeks ago, and we've talked about it on here like easily 100 times across many threads. You shouldn't buy stocks less than $1 unless you read up on them. It's literally one of the few rules to remain as a listing.

>>18271277
Second wave? This stuff is here to stay until vaccine or longer lockdown.
https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/

I have $5k to spend and I can wait on results. Any suggestions?

Today is a good buying day

>>18271323
MGM

>>18271140
All in on GE good idea? Surely they can't go bankrupt?

>people didn't buy calls before this pump
Missing out on free money.

>>18271323
MSCI all world

>>18271325
if you were under a rock for the last 3 weeks, yes.

>>18271323
Why don't you just buy some cheap blue chip stocks, or do some actual research instead of asking 4chan

>>18271290
why are you being so mea to me brah

>>18271323
Wholesale juiceros.

>>18271353
>>>/r/

so how fucked are airbnb hosts ?
we will see a huge fuckery of defaults in the next 6 months on home-loans?

>>18271294
I took a tour of boeing when I went to Seattle recently
they are probably a top 5 company in the world when it comes to sucking cock

>>18271209
Buy BAM, BIP, BER. Utilities, renewables and businesses are not going anywhere. Look into it and you will not be disappointed. Also NEE

What should I order for lunch, boys?

>>18271323
honest actual legit best advice? berk.b

short of earth getting hit by a meteor you will make steady consistent and safe gains at a low to moderate amount

>nearly 2 hours of steady decline wiped out in 2 minutes

>>18271365
you picked a wrong reaction picture for your post.

>>18271388
there's no volume today.

>>18271383
steak is on the menu

>>18271341
For $6, cop a hundred shares and start selling a $8 call. EZ flip. They’ll get bought out at $3 a share before they get delisted.

>>18271365
see>>18271048

WHAT THE FUCK IS SPY DOING NO MY PUTS WTF WHY IS IT PUMPING UP SO HARD ALL OF A SUDDEN

>>18271365
i hope so, can't wait for the housing market to tank

>>18271388
stairs down, elevator up market?

>>18271383
pizza or fried fish

>>18271247
>>18271259
>>18271261
>>18271277

Be greedy when others are fearful.

>>18271323
Airlines and tech are your friends.

>>18271388
I fucking told you tards.

Obviously big players have been shorting all day, they're cashing out now.

what are the odds oil sentiment stays high

>all this retail noise and no volume
Biblical pump or dump incoming

>>18271349
I bought 3 weeks ago too. I like to nibble.

>>18271323
BAM, it's that simple, consistently beat the market because they aren't a business in the typical sense. If you want to beat the market you can't do what everyone else is.

>>18271409
get ready to be fucked as shorts close their positions and jerome pumps

>>18271365
beyond fucked, they have several host talking about how they are going to have to foreclose their airbnb homes over this

>>18271365
I fucking hope so. Fuck Airbnb and travelfag normies.

>>18271415
fucking hate that fnaf nigger making my island one big egg fuck your post and fuck you, no one's taking travel leisure for at least a year suck my cock nigger

>>18270715
I thought milk was booming. Right now demand is really high for some reason in Europe

>>18271424
Either a pump from oilfags not wanting to miss out on a potential deal on monday, or a dump from smart people who don't want to HODL over the weekend.

MY DFS WONT RECOVER ON ITS OWN, JEROME
PUMP STRONGER

>>18271323
SOXL... no wait, don't buy SOXL. It's mine.

>>18271073
Examples?

>power hour hasn't even started yet and we're already back up to SPY 147
Get ready to moon boys.

>>18270834
>>18270862
Hello fellow wrinklebrains

ALRIGHT, Operations commencing. We will start slowly.

We're closing green today bobo.

Jerome is back. You guys've been warned he would do this.

Bears sleeping on VRUS

>>18270694
This market has gotten boring as fuck, when are we finally going to retest the low?

>>18270834
I am

>>18271471
>SPY 147
>time traveler
dank. what's the weather like in July? Did yellowstone blow? was it actually priced in?

>>18271383
Smoked turkey sandwich with extra mustard.

>>18271477
It's just algos doing their thing, they short all day then cover in the last hour, so you see a slow bleed then a massive pump.

>>18270746
Invest in vanadium

>>18271443
>not taking advantage of cheap/desperate Italy tourismt o find a trad wife
ngmi

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I JUST WOKE UP WHAT DID I MISSS????!!!???!!!!??

AND SHOULD I WATCH CRAMERS THING WITH PELOSI???
DID DRUMPF HAVE A CONference or announcement???

Thoughts on SPCE?

>>18271406
So the gov is going to bail out literally every fuckin business in US buy every mortage and give money to the people to survive? No way.

>PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP
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PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP
>PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP
PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP PUMP

Understand this graph and frame it. Those who master it become multi millionaires.

>>18271430
WHY WHY why does thsi what why is it happening wtf what happened to the market why is the sell off ending? wtf this is such bullshit who is buying all the companies

>>18271495
I meant 247

Also yes Yellowstone did blow I'm living in a bunker.

FUCKING PUMP YOU BITCH ASS PUSSY FUCKING MARKET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Alexa, play Welcome to my House by Flo Rida
This fucking boomer on CNBC

>>18271493
book?

>>18271509
musk-tier desperation, they're making ventilators because their spaceflights aren't gonna happen anytime this year

>>18271509
easy 5x in a couple years if you can get in under 10

>>18271261
>>>
Negro please, this shit is so retarded. It won't kill 1/50th of the people that smoking does a year, and you don't see them shutting down the global economy over cigs. If you don't smoke, you don't get lung cancer. If you don't go outside as an old fuck, unlike every old fuck in my area who seem to make up 85% of the people in Target/Walmart for no reason, you don't die of Corona.

>>18271372
Boeing is ass. They are always the last person to the party and their planes suck dick. I always prefer to fly on an A plane if I can help it. They consistently loose out on defense contracts because they're too mixed.

KEEP PLUNGING TIM. WE ARE CLOSING GREEN EOD

>>18271509
>no assets
>high debt
>memes
LONG

imagine being a dumb bobofag right now

WLL up 63% after going bankrupt yesterday.
Why

The amount of newfaggotry on this board is astounding

MY FUCKING PUTS I JUST LOST $800 IN THE LAST 2 MINUTES WE WERE SO CONSISTENTLY GOING DOWN WAHT IN THE FUCK IS BRINGING US UP THERE IS ZERO GOOD NEWS IM WATCHING AND READING A DOZEN SOURCES LIVE EVERYTHING IS BAD BAD BAD EVERYWHERE JAPAN IS ABOUT TO HAVE MASS BREAKOUTS NEW YORK IS FUCKING BREAKING DEATH RECORDS THE NATIONAL GUARD IS MOBILIZED SOUTH AMERICA IS ABOUT TO GET GENOCIDED WHAT IN THE FUCK COULD POSSIBLY BE DRIVING US UP DUDE THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT THIS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED

what the deal with animal crossing? every normie i work with is talking about it but it looks boring as shit to me

>>18271493
>>18270834

Whats the title of these books?

>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>18271560
i miss when gaming was a nice hobby

I call this one, the "bobo holocaust"

Thanks for driving that price so low today bobros.

>>18271560
it's basically a mobile game + crack.

>>18271566
Options as a Strategic Investment
Should be mandatory reading for anyone that actually wants to make money with stock options rather than gamble.

>>18271559
Short squeeze.
Ya just gotta hold through it.
(((they))) can't let you have it that easy.

vix going back up

>Vanguard blew away the competition in Q1, fund flow data show
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/vanguard-blew-away-the-competition-in-q1-fund-flow-data-show-2020-04-03

>>18271559
LOL

I wanna short oil but if Trump tweets another "Make oil go up yo" comment then we are at 40+
I hate this clown market
I WANNA HAVE MY BULL RUN BACK

JEROME STOP IT I'VE HAD ENOUGH
JEROOOME JEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

*CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK*

>>18270853
I go through at least a gallon of milk a week sometimes close to 2. It's not unhealthy you vegan fuck, its good for you if you aren't a fat piece of shit.

>>18271559
THE VOLUME ON SPY HASNT EVEN CHANGED HOW IN THE FUCK CAN IT GET PUMPED SO HIGH SO FAST WHAT STOCKS ARE SURGING RIGHT NOW IF THIS IS TSLA OR SOME OTHER MEME BULLSHIT I SWEAR TO GOD

Shit I don't know if I should buy calls or puts anymore.

>>18271559
>Thinking this isn't a bear trap
Look how slow it was going down. This is were bears get fucked and we gap up. Reverse H&S coming up on the 30.

>>18271559
>not being prepaired for the DAILY GUARANTEED government-fed nigger buying
are thou serious

Sold tza +9% and bought spxl expecting EOD rally. Will sell before close. Am I based?

>>18270979
To answer your question, in my opinion it's super bullish because oil companies are oversold. People are afraid of oil going even lower and everything getting wiped out, leading bondholders owning the entire company and stock holders getting fucked. Go look at WLL's latest 8K where they lay out their plan for bankruptcy: noteholders are getting 97% of newly issued shares while existing shareholders are getting only a pro rata cut of 3% of newly issued shares.

Now, based on book value alone, that still puts the value of a share of stock today at something like $2, by my amateur calculations. Since the announcement it had been trading at about $0.3 and just now has spiked up to $0.54 in the last hour or so. I would have bought at $0.37 except that I'm not confident in my calculations for how the bankruptcy is going to affect the end value of the shares, so if I had bought then I'd be selling today just to lock in some gain and then I'd put it out of my mind.

>>18271527
If Yellowstone blows I die instantly lol

>>18270715
The last time I was at the grocery store, all the milk was gone. How is demand lower?

>>18271518
between the Fed and gov't ya

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20200323b.htm

of course there will be a few that go out of business like invesco or get margin calls like Ag mortgage investment trust. But its not 2000 again. Fed and govt learned

>>18271607
BUY AND HOOOOOOOOOOOLD

>>18271365
I hope that they don't get bailed out
they don't deserve to get bailed out, fuck them

If this doesn't perfectly sum up the past 3 weeks..

>>18271592
Why are you shorting oil when the straight of Hormuz is gunna be shut down in the next 7 days?

Don't be a retard.

>>18271584
No surprise. Their expense ratios are pretty small compared to the competition.

>>18271592
EOD Monday oil either pumps on OPEC production cut deal or dumps on no deal. Gamble wisely.

>>18271524
So buy long term puts for maximum profit?

>>18271607
>brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>18271598
THIS IS UNNATURAL LOOK AT THE CHARTS THERE IS NO VOLUME CHANGES WTF IM CONVINCED THE EXCHANGE COMPUTERS ARE COMPRIMISED WITH CHEATCODE SOFTWARE TTHAT MANIPULATES SHIT OFF AND ON TO AVOID DETECTION

>imagine holding your stocks over the weekend
haha, dumb bulls, get slaughtered

jerome's gonna have to pump harder than that

>>18271633
The stock lost like 95% of value. At that situation even bankruptcy is bullish

>>18271592
now is not the time for the bull run. now is the time to get your ducks in a row for the bull run.

>>18271627
>Anon truly makes it and literally goes to the moon
Any of us could only hope to be so lucky.

>>18271649
>CHEATCODE SOFTWARE
Yeah that'll be the printing m8

Guys
Really
What the heck happened today?

>>18271508

*BREATHES IN*

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>18271641
The deal is the least important thing for oil in the next 14 days.

7 million more jobless claims on Monday

>>18271633
Going from 20 cents to 50 is noise. The percentage is deceiving.

>>18271673
Already moving back up senpai, leveraged shorters like myself won't hold during the weekend. Which is why you buy bull instead

>>18271690
nothing... yet

>>18271690
FED NIGGERS ARE BUYING
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT KNOW

>>18271633
>+71.55%
Yeah it probably went from like 0.10 to 0.17

Damn should i go in on a spy call for 4/9 at 252

>>18271634
>>18271698
There is no info it should be shut down. I can ask some guys in the Iranian military though.

>>18271644
It means don't be a retard and get greedy trying to hold for bigger gains

>>18271739
>>18271739
new
>>18271739
>>18271739

>>18271530
>>18271566

>>18271690
Putin pumps.

>missed out buying puts when it pumped to 248
fuck

>>18271685
>>18271701
So can I just wait for companies to go bankrupt and 2x my money the day after?

>>18271731
...no

>>18271705
>>18271673
Nevermind I guessed wrong, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18271641
EOD Monday? I thought the meeting was this weekend

>>18271726
Corporate debt?. That’s nothing new and isn’t what I was asking about.

>>18271560
nigger. its a NIGGER game. for NIGGERS

>>18271534
>you don't see them shutting down the global economy over cigs

That's because shutting down the global economy won't help people stop dying of smoking?

Old people can get it without going outside if they live with people who go outside.

>>18271509
It is a meme, do not touch with a 10 ft pole. It's already killed people

I have no idea what the fuck I am doing.

I'm waiting for one more pump and buying some EOD puts.

>>18271149
Just use DOMSCUMM like the real elites.

>>18271732
In spite of all the other obvious info you can find with a news aggregator, there was a leaked story Tuesday about the Truman getting ready to pull out of the gulf, stating they didn't see escalation in the region.

This 1 day after they recommitted the 101st and 82nd airborne to extend stay sighting elevated tension. That carrier aint leaving, it's getting ready to carry out some shiny new orders.

Iran has Kudz guy #2 back in the Iraqi parliament, they're making a move. Expect fireworks.

>>18271529
hes pretty based

>>18271790
you are so far out of the loop there is no helping you

>>18271633
this is why i cant win, eerything i try to buy based on logic ends up doing the opposite i feel like there is actual market manipulation i never used to be a conspiracy theorist but i really think there is serious fuckery with the market that is not fair or a free market

>>18271606
Shit like this is why I've given up on puts. I'm still holding a couple $155 apr24 SPY puts and a $100 apr24 BA put just because it's more trouble than it's worth to dump the SPY at such a massive loss and I still have faith in the BA put printing. But I'm not buying any more of that shit. I'm sticking to buying undervalued stocks and if any of them pop up to what I consider is a fair value I'm selling them, taxes be damned. Gotta lock in gains, no more of this paper shit.

>>18271960
Just do the opposite of what you would normally do under logical conditions.

Should I short Sqqq at a $3 loss/ 100 shares?
I don't think I'll break even in this clown market.

bullish and priced in

>>18271323
GLD or IAU calls for 2022.

>>18272052
.....

>>18272052
stonks mooning tomo

I know they're 1m candles but this is fucking hilarious.

>>18272049
Depends if you expect the oil deal tp go through or not. It might also be mixed, a short term deal with positive repercussions but no long term resolution, but if it goes south for some reason then we could expect stonks to tank. I don't see this being the case personally, even though i have a put for oil, but maybe I'm wrong. I expect the mixed scenario.

i want to money. i want to money a lot.

>>18271234
Roll over as much as you can every year into a Roth IRA and invest the money into what you really want. Obviously wait until you return to your pre-recession totals first. I lucked out that mine offers VITSX and I just put everything in there with a small cash position on top.

>>18271592
>Not buy a short term put when the "trump pump" fades and a long term call since the Russia and Saudis will eventually have to stop playing chicken.