/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's priced in already bro!

>>18305841
I bet a LOT of people feel this way right now.

This market is shifting my perception of reality by 180 degrees every other day
It's so fucking stressful

You didn't short the bottom did you, bobo?

Should I buy BUD stock

RTX GANG RISE UP

WE'RE GONNA VERTICALLY LAUNCH ON MONDAY

just buy it Nya

>>18305877
If we close out green on Tuesday I will capitulate and turn into a bull. Whatever moves are happening tomorrow will set the tone for the rest of the month. SPY 200 end of month btw.

add back the nhentai education link you fucks

Red or green tomorrow?

>>18305905
I actually regret not buying more on Friday's dip.

>5 million dead and 80% unemployment
>Dow up 3%

It's priced in already bro!

WHAT THE FUCK ARE FUTURES DOING THIS MAKES NO SENSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>Bollinger Bands®

>hurrrrr how could we be rising

I don't even trade stocks, i'm just here for the trap and loli posting. Fuck this clown market.

>Trump stops calling it "Chinese Virus"
>Suddenly media coming out with stories that the virus cam from a lab in Wuhan
Media is literally children.
https://www.rt.com/uk/485026-ministers-china-laboratory-coronavirus/
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/wuhan-lab-virus-leak-no-longer-discounted-cobra/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/washington-post-now-admits-maybe-tom-cotton-was-right-to-suspect-coronavirus-outbreak-originated-in-chinese-lab

>>18305905
10 share RTXlet reporting in

Does /smg/ use straddles and condors in a normal market?
t. newfag

you now remember anons saying last Friday that tomorrow would be crimson red

ANNOUNCEMENT:

THIS THREAD IS PRICED IN
I REPEAT
THIS THREAD IS PRICED IN

>>18305918
same

>>18305887
>Watchmen
Based.

>>18305899
>Aqua-sama
Based.

>>18305942
>Bear-cuck finally meeting his day of reckoning
Based.

>>18305841
What en epic thread, OP. Keep up the great work!

>>18305954
this fucking image always gets me

>>18305887
she was such a believable female character in the comics

>>18305944
>bulls desperately clinging to literally ONE day of lower rate of change
>what is statistical significance
you are all unironically insufferably retarded

>>18305887
All of your posts lately have no relation to the stock market

The door is open, feel free to leave at any time. Might I suggest /co/ or /tv/? Perhaps /r9k/ or even /pol/ and /int/? You could even try out some newer boards? There's a whole world out there! Have you tried /int/ /news/ /bant/ /trash/??

>>18305954
>those sources
>the media
lmao
trash tier outlets have been covering that for months, sometimes just straight repeating "this internet conspiracy theory" word for word.

>>18305968
Depends entirely on the situation. Straddles are great with this volatility, but are shit with low-volatility stocks unless you gamma scalp, which is time consuming. Condors are good in normal market conditions generally but I wouldn't touch them right now.

>>18305982
https://youtu.be/19hTaNiaBVw?t=15

it gonna be 2450 by open tomarrow kek

What's better to buy? stonks or bonds?

>>18305979
the geometry of those panties doesn't make any sense. there are straps over her hips but then where he's pulling on them they're angled down toward her ass. lets have some integrity with the quality of the art on this website, huh?

What does this mean?

>>18306019
First, ask yourself
"Which one of these is priced in?"

>>18306019
Buy Sticks

>>18306019
Right now, stocks are probably better because stocks are on discount and interest rates are low which makes bond rate low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWzgk-8QHKk&list=PLECECA66C0CE68B1E&index=7

>>18306012
then this from 2020:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/us/politics/romney-trump-impeachment.html

what a snake

>>18305942
We haven't had a red Monday in well over a month.

>>18306024
This is so bullshit. Where did you get this? How do they justify a new all time high THIS YEAR when we're entering a global depression?

>>18305990
yet the stock market rises
get shit on bobo

Warren buffet says to not worry about price points and graphs and shit and just to buy stocks from products you like/use assuming they aren't in debt and have strong financials. Is he wrong or lying or what?

>>18306046
which stacks?

>>18306021
Fellow bears, you all know exactly what's coming. Don't let the permabulls do you in. We all know what's coming Monday. In the mean time, post rare bobos.

BUY THE DIP

>>18306067
at least i'll forever be not as retarded as you

>Nobody working
>Millions of businesses shutting down
>Millions losing their jobs
I don't understand why futures are up.

>>18306066
https://www.forecasts.org/djia.htm

They have methodology on their website

>>18306066
that's the dow, not the nasdaq anon

>>18306086
it's just cope. reality always eventually catches up with the optimists

>Trump says virus is at it’s peak
>Futures turn green

It’s like people forget he’s a serial liar

>>18305913

>>18306068
That’s unironically how I pick stocks and it’s worked out pretty well for me

>>18306068
>buy KO because you use KO
>buy COST because you like the deals at Costco
>Market goes down, stocks get crushed, divvies help you DCA down, automatically buying the dips, You keep buying the dips with extra cash, you win in the long run

OR
>Market seems to love this company LK!
>I've never been but the data is great! Total growth phase!
>Buy biotech stock because they have great promising science
>Oh no... the Chinese are liars??
>oh no... microcap stocks with no products on the market are Pump and Dump scams???
>What do you mean "mixed shelf offering?!?!"

Choose one.

>>18306117
How do I short that image?

>>18306117
Missing a set of limbs anon.

>>18306068
This but also pick things your gf likes. Becky index is real.

>>18306128
holy fucking based

>>18306126
I would pay a hundred bucks to sit and chat with a loser that actually bought LK (or any other Chinese scam stock, for that matter), maybe over a cup of pike place

Guys is there a stock that nobody is paying attention to? Seems like the second media attention is directed at a stock it literally just goes insane. What is nobody thinking about?

>>18305954
>rt
>asiantimes
>dailywire
>your most reliable source is national review

baka senpai

>>18306151
BAM NEE and TDY, look at the charts, financials, and fundamentals for each. Huge growth.

>>18306068
He's right but most people tend to underestimate the lengths he goes to research the company's financials and growth potential, as well as the time frame involved for hold period.

glad i loaded up on calls friday.

>>18306151
spce fits that criteriahttps:

>>18305959
it's okay I only have 7

>>18306068
buffet is wrong here (yes I know heresy etc etc), the business to business market is like 5x or 10x bigger than the consumer market

>futures open
>thread immediately becomes shit
I fucking hate these newfags that are only here to spectate.

>>18306090
>graph doesn't show pas forecasts
Unless you can show me that, its basically worthless.

If there's an upwards breakout tomorrow we're probably back in a bull market for a few days unless something crazy happens like Boris Johnson dying.

>>18306150
LK was not obviously a scam. They have a large business and the (now proven fraudulent) financials reflected that. It's not easy to trade on fundamentals like this.

>>18306186
how much will you pay us to fuck off?

>>18306168
My day job is an oceanographer and I can confirm teledyne has by far the best instrumentation on the market

>>18306168
>BAM
my nigga

should I sell my BIP shares to buy more BAM? I'm waffling on whether I like the infrastructure better or the main company

>>18306197
For best bullish case you want a close above 2530 or so on S&P.

>>18306200
Ten dollars, it's probably a lot to a poorfag like yourself.

>>18306168
I see you shilling specifically these three companies every thread and I just want to say that I will probably buy these

>>18306070
SCP POOLCORP is good, summer is coming
>>18306117
You actually ruined the good day I was having and will be leaving until morning

>>18306198
yes, if it were a US company, I would have more faith in the fundamentals. There would likely be some whistleblowers, and hit pieces written by suspicious analysts.

Even the disney whistleblowers worry me. but it looks like, if there was funny business there, they can probably cover it up by moving all the losses they hid to the coronacrash quarters.

--or something. I don't actually know the many ways to cook books.

Will open very green, pull back to bait bears, than shoot to the moon monday.

>>18306229
At least I'm priced in

>>18306207
Based, had an airport anon shill it to me and I loved it. Their quality means they can get significant profit margins, and they cater to obscure markets where they have significant pricing power. Just like brookfield do with utilities. Little competition mean better deals. Combined with their insane rate of acquisitions What do you do with oceanography? Sounds like a cool job.

>>18306191
The past forecasts probably did not take into account the coronavirus

>>18306258
lmao you're still in POOL?
what about CSSE?

Do I sell my puts for a loss tomorrow or do I double down?
5/15 SPY 200

>>18306198
I just don’t see how anybody could invest in a coffee company without at least tasting the product. Also, never trust a chinaman.

I'm gonna sell everything tommrow bros. One of my stocks keeps falling and the other is stable and if i unload it all I make a small profit. This was my first time trying out stocks and it was very stressful.

>>18306086
Because the market is always forward looking

>>18306288
what stocks

>>18306269
How many more bears are there to get baited this up move should liquidate almost everyone who went short already.

>>18306281
Ok, but I still want to see if they were even close to right before that.

>>18306283
No idea dude. We are kind of in a crab market. Two huge jobless claims reports and a jobs report didnt change anything in the market.

>>18306211
Keep it, BIP is nice, although I heard there is some BIPC thing which is better for tax purposes. These utilities are great in volatile times and so is BAM. They own quality real estate, not shitty malls, they will always have clients. I would probably say BAM is a better value because it is more exposed to real estate and private equity but look into BPY, insane margin and at a huge discount.

I have May 15th SPY puts, if this market goes up with double digit unemployment fuck me sideways.

>>18306283
Buy June or July puts at the 3:45 pump.

what's the current situation with trumpbux? is that actually happening (and when) or no?

>>18306279
Mainly water sampling and modeling. It’s a pretty mindless job but it takes me to weird places and I get to dive. We regularly drop $50k on teledyne kit without even batting an eye. And it all needs maintenance and updates and stuff which we pay them for also

Can somebody redpill me on this shit?
Is COF going to get fucking demolished by their derivatives?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/exclusive-capital-one-to-withdraw-controversial-regulator-request-2020-04-04

smg, I have come to the conclusion that it almost does not matter what you buy. Almost every stocks charts looks exactly the same. There is literally too much data to accurately price every company. The algos and journalist are basically copying each others's homework at this point. Every chart is basically follow the SPY to with some variation. There are some outliers but it's all hot air nonsense. If you are up, then sell. If you are out of the market, throw some alphabet spagetttoes at the walls and type in the first three letter you see in a row. I am up and I can't tell you why. All data point to me getting fucked, but I went up 16%. No t a fucking clue.

Leafs what trading platform do you use other than scummy Questtrade and meme-tier Wealthsimple Trade

>>18306318
They're priced in

>>18306310
>BPY
>17% yield
you fucking what

>>18306234
Glad I can help, so many shitstock shillers I thought I could help out and give some nice picks. After all you guys helped me get into the market a while back when I got bored and clicked in here from /sci/. Paying the gains forward so to speak.

>>18306282
No I sold it but its back in my buy zone as of friday
>Csse
Havent traded that in a very long time and dont plan on it. Speaking of ghiost candles NATH is still doing very good compared to other restaurants and reliable ghost candles

TDY is way overbought at every scale kek. I’ll set a limit order for $200.

>>18306301
6.5k in an oil company and 6.5k in a metal company. If I sell it all right when the market opens I make 800 profit. small but I just want to get out without a loss.

>>18306117
God I wish that we're me

>>18306330
I used qtrade but it was so expensive. Unironically questrade is the best we have in leaf land

>asx pumping

This meme needs to stop already

>>18306318
Democrats, in an ironic move, killed it out of spite for Trump and for more welfare gibbes and gay windmills. Invest in California mountain lion repellent.

>>18306307
I think you gotta pay for that, they claim they are 98% accurate

>>18306330
meme tier wealthsimple because I'm poor

>>18306340
can you also make TDY cheaper somehow? I'm dumping $5k into the market because I'm poor and I want to buy more. are there any companies with small share prices you recommend? just asking since you seem like you're one of the few that knows what they're doing

>>18306339
Kek it's incredible
>https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/BPY/dividends/scorecard

I need to dig into it but surely it will come back to the 20s, and 6 years of consistent divvy growth. I think it'll get cut again but it always has brookfield to fall back on and has quality properties which will always be in demand so they can afford to kick out tenants that don't pay. Unlike REITs that invest in random shopping centers BPY has flagship properties, just look at this, it isn't your local mall.

>https://www.brookfieldproperties.com/development/overview/

>>18306367
KTOS and NET, but wtf is BAM not cheap enough for you

>>18306340
>>18306234
>>18306168
Kys pajeet samefag. I can’t believe I was the first to say this. Holy fuck it is summerfags everywhere

>>18306010
what exactly is bad about volatility and strangles/straddles
i can't remember the one but there is one that functions like an iron condor, making profit if prices stay in a range. short straddles i believe

>>18306359
Lmao what a scam.

>>18306356
what? they're not doing it? then wtf are all of those unemployed people doing to pay their rent or mortgage and for food etc?

>>18306367
BAM has a share price of 28. Incredibly diversified and beats the market because they aren't a normal asset manager. They also have various LPs if you want to overweight in a specific sector. BER for renewables, BIP for infrastructure/utilities, BPY for high end retail real estate and office space. Link for you to look into. Also TDY under the 200s should be nice. Same with NEE
>https://www.brookfield.com/

>>18306397
aren't those canadafag's shills?

>>18306407
They're doing it, just not if your parents declare you as a dependent. Parents/dependents kind of got fucked.

>>18306397
You realise there are IDs right?

>>18306388
>>18306419
I was talking about TDY only, the others are fine.
NET is already on my list and I've been looking at KTOS too. Thanks, will also look into BPY

I should have went long on Friday bros..

I LOVE THIS GREEN

Is monday finally the time to buy oil?

>>18306397
>samefag
samefagging is when you pretend to be multiple people you fucking newfag, not when you post more than once, gb2/b/

I discovered a new stock that merits further research. It is called Computer Programs and Systems, Inc. (CPSI). My bull thesis on this stock so far is that they have a boring, generic-sounding tech name, not dissimilar to Automatic Data Processing, Inc. (ADP), and we know what a winner ADP has been over the long term. That said, I'm still not sure exactly what this company's product is other than that it's some kind of healthcare software, so more research is necessary prior to investing.

>>18306451
No.

So lads after the poomp on monday, what are we shorting? I'm going back on smallcap shorts.

>>18306258
me pretty skilled

there are actually retards in this thread that thought monday would be red

there are actually retards in this thread that didn't realize monday is going to be a +10% day

there are actually retards in this thread not buying the 40% decline over the fucking flu

>>18306447
It's only important that you weren't a stupid bear. Missing a pump isn't that bad.

>>18306469
and you are a retard for not taking advantage of both ups and downs

>>18306456
kek

>>18306451
maybe a little taste

>>18306440
>>18306453
>vpn
>airplane mode
seething pajeet kek
>>18306469
bullbros getting too cocky already oh no no no

>>18306469
tbf I'm down to 10% short and plan on selling that monday, I'm gay not retarded

>>18306477
how do you know he isn't, anon? that seems like an assumption.

>>18306330
Interactive Brokers

>>18306401
Where do you think the dow is going?

>last monday was green
>loses tuesday and wendsday
>crabbing till Friday close
Repeat of last week?

>>18306447
Its basically gambling at this point. I had calls but was sure that oil is gonna crash us on monday. I dont even know whats real or not anymore in this market.

>>18306330
I'm using wealthsimple. I'm too cheap to fuck with anything else.

>>18306508
We broke the downtrend baby, now even TA says UP.

>>18306451
I'll buy oil again at $21

>>18306506
>50% unemployment
>Cascading defaults
>Global depression
Down.

what to buy as my first stonk

>>18306508
Possible. The market likes its patterns.

>>18306495
Dude, how dedicated do you think I am to this lmfao. Me shilling multibillion dollar companies to a bunch of people whose combined net worth does not exceed 500k doesn't do anything.

>>18306508
me pretty sure monday gonna be red

Do I hold or sell my SPY 200 5/15 puts

>sold my etfs last month at a 20% loss
>they dropped another 10%
>didn't buy back in
>now they're back to what I sold them at
I'm getting FOMO

>>18306440
You do realize you can post from your cellular network and have a new ID than your Wi-Fi network.

Leon Liger famously tried this and forgot to switch off his Wi-Fi before trying to praise himself. Was Bretty funny.

>>18306508
No market open on Friday so people are trying to get their orders in now over a long weekend.

when can I start scooping up airline cheapies? too soon?

>>18306530
TSLA

>>18306547
>FOMO
Bearish sign

>>18306529
>brrrrrrrrr
>brrrrrrrrr
>BRRRRRRRRR
stocks only go up

>>18306541
We have a string of good financial news however. Especially from asian markets which are trending well up at the moment.Look at the Nikkei and HSI for instance. Well up. This is reflected in the dow futures as well.

>>18306547
this is the reason i never sell. hard to get back in since cash is too comfy when the world looks scary

>>18306547
If this is your first recession take it as a learning experience, if you lose 1k or whatever consider it tuition. FOMO will kill you. The worst time to buy is when FOMO is the worst, like the euphoria on that chart.

>>18306466
Cocky

>>18306509
>Its basically gambling at this point. I had calls
Naked call buying is always gambling and asking to be fucked over by the market makers and options dealers. Wtf are you doing? Options are good for hedging or gambling.

>>18306547
when you pull some risky shit like that you gotta lock that 10% in as soon as possible

For a serious answer:
- taxes are only functional in a healthy economy, you are very correct.
- during history, zero fiat currencies have survived.
- printing more money is like drinking more beer in order to avoid the inevitable hangover. But the hangover is inevitable, by definition.
- the money (that is printed now) goes in the financial markets. They are not 'real' (in circulation) and won't affect the rest of the economy as long as they remain inside stocks. I mean, literally inside the values of stocks, those are now like Pandora's jars.
- There is no runaway inflation because velocity of money has slowed down a lot with the quarantine. Like selling ice cream slows down a lot during winter. But as soon as the quarantine is over, VoM will speed up, everyone will be happy but that is the moment hyperinflation will kick in. But the dollar is the reserve currency of the world. If it falls, every other fiat fall. Maybe that status will go to the famous EUROCHAIN next? EU nations + the ECB together have more gold reserves than the US or other superpowers. This will take many years...
- In any case, the major incompetence and 'parenting' needed by these C-suites and banks and institutions and leaders are setting cracks in the system. Voters don't forget about being cheated on the money. The cracks are forming.

>TL;DR
your best bet is paying taxes and move either to the foretold bucolic comfy cottage in the woods (for US/Canada citizens) or to a zone of some EU nation of at least semi-decent nature (a mid city in France, an inland village in the Netherlands, south Germany, Norway, etc). Personally, I like Netherlands Antilles and Overseas France.

>>18306566
I lost $15k because I bought 2 weeks before the crash

>>18306564
i love how no one has removed the stock image watermark from the printer even in every single edit

this is fucking BULLSHIT

>>18306553
>too soon?
We dont even know of an end date for lockdowns. April 30th is the furthest out at the moment but its likely to go past that. Airlines wont make it that far. Wait to see when it ends and the smoke clears.

>>18306549
Yeah I fully realize, but why would I, this thread is getting archived by tomorrow. Who the fuck cares. Take my advice and make money or don't. I win either way.

>>18306549
>>18306495
ok senpai I'm
>>18306527
so you're gonna need a better excuse

>>18306547
Sell low and buy high. Make this /smg/ proud.

I have something to tell you guys, but first I need to know if /smg/ is a glowie-free general.

No. This first drop was a healthy correction and the smart money getting out. This next drop will be the real one. So many boomers are over leveraged into the market and many stocks still have lofty marketcaps when they start pulling money out of the market for retirement equities will be bleeding for about a whole decade. Why can normies not understand this? I've tried explaining this to people I seriously believed were intelligent and they refuse to believe that more people will be selling stocks to sustain themselves in retirement than there will be to buy them, let alone buy higher.

>>18306584
>QE goes down
>stocks keep going up
you're out of excuses bobo, this is natural growth

>>18306584
You do have SOME long positions... right anon?

>>18306587
>>18306589
Doesn’t matter don’t care
Just because something is stupid and pointless doesn’t mean idiots won’t try.

Shot caller is the perfect example of this. Subscribe to his patreon for more hot picks.

>>18306580
It happens, just know that bear markets last a while, and this one is unprecedented. Buffet said something about patience didn't he?

>>18306575
go jump off a bridge sodomite

>>18306330
TD webbroker is decent.
make a USD acct. and get to use ThinkorSwim which is GOAT

>>18306456
Made me chuckle.

4 day week

that's more green each day

>>18306584
2 weeks of bull market, how long till you get it in your head bobo?

>>18306600
so this is how people cope with missing a generational bottom

>>18306330
questrade
they process your application fast

>>18306642
so this is how trannies cope with falling balls deep into the bulltrap of a lifetime

>>18306607
Ok dude, I'm samefagging, you got me. I've been frantically switching from laptop to cellphone in a vain attempt to fool you. The jig is up. Do not buy BAM, NEE and TDY.

>>18306642
who gives a fuck about a bottom when you can just day trade anyway. buying and holding is for boomers. bulltards dont understand that "muh generational bottom" is something most people don't actually care about, not that this is even the bottom. for fucks sake.

>>18306639
last week was down

>>18306666
no one cares about your 4 figure account and making $200 here and there lmao

>>18306636
>Black Easter (2020)

>>18306424
im not a dependent so i get trumpbux? when?

>>18306677
okay retard

>>18306529
QE infinity plus phase 4 stimulus could start a mega bubble. Stock prices could inflate just like everyone else.

>>18306330
I use questrade but would recommend interactive brokers

>>18306677
but day trading makes thousands per day
i make over 10k on a good day

Looks like we won't go to the bottom again, time to resume the DCA. Fuck the Bank for delaying my transfer.

Friendly reminder that price of a thot is the first, and fastest, price to fall when economy implodes

>Pic related, some local camwhore/prostitute's current snapchat story

>>18306694
money is getting destroyed faster than it's getting printed my economically inept friend.

>Judging market by futures.
You never learn mumus u never learn

>>18306642
>Generational bottom
SPY was 240 during the 2018 dip, which merely brought us to 2017 levels for a couple months. Do you really believe this is it?

I feel like this whole coronavirus web spun by Gates is falling apart fast

>>18306693
Post account balance over time, wanna see it. I've been occasionally fucking around with paper trading, just don't really like it, stressful and time consuming. Feels like work. Unlike samefagging on 4chan. But if this isn't LARP, damn.

>>18306689
dunno, sooner if you filed your taxes and selected direct deposit as the method for getting a tax return.

I selected receive a check by mail so... could be a loooooong while.

oh and always be suspicious of posters with an obvious political obsession

>>18306710
hehehehe
buyers market

>>18306694
the stimulus is great in theory.
in practise it's so delayed and beset by bureaucratic issues that it will not be effectively delivered to anyone except big corporations, and therefore it won't solve the problems it seeks to prevent.

>>18306716
>>18306642
the bulltards absolute biggest fear is not going all in at the absolute bottom for some reason even if they catch 50 knives on the way down, and what's worse is that they project this fear onto everyone else as if anyone gives a fuck.

>>18306694
>Zimbabwe x1000
That sure will fix this.

>YWN witness a -3000 Dow day again

feels bad.

>>18306711
How money supply is increasing?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2

Honest answers only, What is a really good website to use for stonks.
I got sucked into Robinhood and I want to kill myself now

>>18306725
>stressful and time consuming. Feels like work.

>sit at home with coffee
>click a few buttons
>+1000 here and there
>can quit before lunch
sure is stressful

3 day bull run incoming before crashing down. If OPEC does something, it'll be a 2 week bull run. The big crash takes at least 2 months to happen when people realize it's going to take a lot longer than a month to recover all the jobs and global trade since other countries have completely different time tables for COVID recovery.

>>18306763
because the vast majority of what is used as "money" is actually credit. credit is evaporating, and the fed tries to counterbalance this by increasing the money supply, but the amount they are printing is not even enough to do that because debt is so absurdly high in this fake nigger economy.

Good thing I gave up betting against jerome weeks ago

>>18306716
The record stimulus and fed action means the big guys are shitting their pants. They know they can't afford to wait like they did with the GFC. They're pulling all the stops to prevent a meltdown.

>>18306584
ha ha money printer go brrr

>>18306771
are you saying ill have another chance to short LYV

>>18306770
Perhaps, what's your profits on trading? Winrate?

>>18306765
a program connected with a cheap broker

>>18306765
Yahoo Finance has literally everything you need. Just keep a tab open and you'll be golden.

>>18305943
I can't believe how based this post is

>>18306527
Oils at 26

GOOGL looking like the last of the tech stocks you can get a very solid 40%+ return on

>>18306765
Finviz.com
Tradingview.com

>>18306748
Being a bull or bear is retarded. Number going to fall? Short. Number going to go up? Long. Trade by the news, resistance and support and you'll naturally captured the longer downs and longer ups.

>>18306786
Yeah right. They're setting us up so when it falls they're out of the way and it hits all the retards who did set and forget longs. Just gotta prop it up until the suckers are all in. This uncertainty should spook the fuck out of passive traders. Don't fall for the FOMO.

>>18305841
So last week the indices were correlated with oil price and rallied off of news. Now oil is tanking because it turns out the news were fake but stocks keep rallying?

>>18305943
>Lean Hogs™

Anyone else buying ETSY? With an economic downturn more people are going to be trying to make money on the side, it's 100% online, and it looks like they're having a soft curve up.

>>18306845
>Being a bull or bear is retarded. Number going to fall? Short. Number going to go up? Long. Trade by the news, resistance and support and you'll naturally captured the longer downs and longer ups.
exactly. however i can't help but notice that the permabulls are exceptionally retarded.

So lay it on me bros. Is this just market manipulation so the boomers circlejerk each other that it's all fine?

Fucking house 2 doors down is going up. The most exciting thing that's happened to me in over a month.

bullish

>>18306880
Based arsonist.

>>18306855
I'm not buying ETSY yet, but it's one that I'm interested in. It definitely falls under the buy stuff your wife likes criteria that someone posted earlier.

Boomers including all doctors and lawyers and engineers and such and even instathots all have money in the stock market. They cannot cope with the crash and it hasn't even been felt yet. In a few weeks to a month they will have bills come up and begrudgingly sell, continually driving prices lower and lower.

Feels like a lot of tech/growth stocks didn't come down enough and are still overvalued. Only things on sale are the shitty boomer industries (oil, banks, travel).

>>18306880
Not even that big of a blaze my bro, it's almost out now judging by the smoke

>>18306330
WS because i am in a buy and hold phase of portfolio building and they free, bitch.
Just dont fuck with USD stuff on WS... yet.

>>18306877
What are there more of right now? Bears or Bulls. The market will move to fuck the biggest group.

>>18306880
...like burning down?

Any idea what happened? What city/state?

>>18306877
It's just futures, which are often meaningless.
Also, New York never decended into looting, riots, lawlessness, etc. If it didn't happen there, it's much less likely it'll happen in LA, detroit, chicago, whatever.

>>18306885
link to an archive.today version?
I would like to know the moment retail investors finally get fed up and sell out, which is often right about the bottom, or so I hear.

>>18306880
what up with corona and house fire going up

>>18306922
I think there are government-directed mm like blackrock or some shit doing concerted buys to drive up the market and make everyone think its all ok.

>>18306880
BULLISH

I
CAN'T
FUCKING
TAKE
IT
ANY
MORE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>Hear people bitch about stocktwits
>check it out just for something to do when traffic is slow on 4chan
>sign up
>Account is instantly banned after creation

What the fuck

>>18306872
>permabulls
In my humble desu, You should ALWAYS have some long positions. A little bit of index funds you never touch, or companies you think could survive the rapture.

Much rather add some short etf's and use them to add to my longs, than liquidate my best stocks.

I want to play video games but I can't unplug from corona and the markets help

>>18306934
>make everyone think its all ok.
i think that ship has sailed

>>18306940
did your username contain the N word or perhaps something about jannnies? Maybe a mention of tonguing your anus?

>>18306955
what gaem?
I need one.

>>18306880
>snow
ick

>>18306956
They keep trying! Every week its all "finally ok that was crazy but this is the bottom it can't go up anymore..." or "woah look at all these bargains, yes goy, buy some stocks goy".

>>18306940
>stocktwats
cringe and bluepilled.

>El-Erian on Ben Shapiro's youtube show today
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guess I'll have to watch this for the first time... on 2x and skipping through most of it.

>>18306068
It makes sense because in a lot of aspects you are an average person doing the average things buying the average goods.
>>18306182
It works for business to business operations as well for the same reason. If you are an average member of the workforce then you can assume there are others doing the same in your business scenario using the same products/goods.

>>18306900
Utilities are pretty cheap.

>>18306914
Went for a walk talked to the fire fighter he said shes cookin whatever that means lol they're still working

>>18306749
I gotta say, the old Zimbabwe dollar pre rtgs had a fucking rad font.

i'm buying land

>>18307011
how do I buy land on robinhood

>>18306931
My neighbor it was an electrical fire house is fucked and in winnipeg manitoba in leaf land

>>18306966
Welcome to the praries in Canada

Should I buy some way otm soxl calls for 2021? Good or bad idea?

>>18307017
Get Zillow scrub. Everyone here should be trying to own at least one rental.

>>18306995
No fucking way, no way based Erian is a zionist sellout

>>18307017
Buy an REIT.
You can also sell covered calls on it for extra income

Literal staircase upwards. Just limit up already.

>>18307018
oh... that's definitely not riots or anything too exciting

thanks for the updates

>>18307043
wow
talk about jumping to conclusions...
He's just enjoying the media attention and shit. I'm having a hard time getting current with all his appearances.

>>18307039
Calls on 3x leveraged ETFs with the VIX at 45. I'm no option player but sounds like you are begging to get fucked by volatility.

>>18306932
Retards who never cooked before doing dumb shit like leaving burners on or setting stuff to close to the broiler

>>18306966
>>18307018
Yep. I have even more snow than that in Alberta. The shovel accumulation on the side of the driveway is running around four feet tall still.

>>18307039
if you think soxl will moon by 2021 why not just buy soxl

futures going up.

>>18307075
Not fast enough.

>>18307071
Damn I raked my yard a week ago it was plus 11 and sunny then we got a foot of snow shit on us in 2 days and now its almost gone again

>investing.com and finviz still haven't updated for RTX
>wealthsimple's broker is still processing the merger
jesus fuck I guess this shit's all free for a reason

>>18307072
because he just found out how to trade options.

>>18307061
Was in jest, I'll check it out. But it is nice to see these guys get exposure, you can tell all these virologists and economists are loving the (mostly deserved) attention.

>>18306330
There are roughly 3 choices: WS trade, questrade and interactive brokers.

>WST
Free, but their US fee conversions are massive, outright useless to trade US stuff. Can't even hold USD. Fantastic if you trade purely canadian stuff and don't need the things they aren't adding to their selection (they disqualify things with low volume and market cap). App-only and garbage-tier app requires you to use something else to actually get market data (tradeview or one of the other brokers' softwares). Unless you planned to daytrade, it doesn't really matter.

>Questrade
Some people say it's as scummy as robinhood. Supposedly support is useless as well. Other than that, free buy on ETFs but NOT sells (regular rates of $4.95-9.95 as with stocks).
Overall pretty high fees (like anything cucknadian). Good for investing in US stocks and especially ETFs if you buy and hold with yearly rebalanced, too expensive for anything else.

>ibrk
Very low fees: $1 per trade minimum (same rate as questrade but their minimum is way lower). However, they have a $10/month account fee if your account is less than $100k USD. On the other hand, that's discounted against your trades: make 10 trades a month and the fee is therefore down to $0. May be viable for actual trading (position, probably not swing). Also has the lowest rates for options. I think they have a selection of free ETFs, but it's small. ibrk lite does NOT exist in canada, only in the US. They also automatically perform norbert's gambit for you if you request a currency conversion.
That said, because of tax regulations, you'll get buttfucked even further if you invest in US stocks in many circumstances, e.g. if you hold for dividends.
Thus, I recommend the following:

- WST for actual trading, restrict yourself to dual-listed or canadian stuff
- Questrade for investing
- ibrk if you MUST have us stocks and want to trade.

Eitherway, prepare the lube and thanks the government jews for the anal pounding.

VIX will probably drop to sub-30 this week. Best time to write puts and covered calls or do some spreads.

we need more liquidity, please bankers, print more. More stimulus too. Cares 2, another 1200 for everyone along with mass infrastructure too!

>>18306632
>$10 fees each transaction
>decent

>all airlines cut services by 90% to NYC area amid Coronavirus

will it go past +3% after open or drop down...

>>18307101
I wish they brought interactive brokers lite to Canada!

all in EPD

futures going down

>>18307101
wealthsimple says it's only a 1.5% fee, are they lying?

>>18307061
Forgot how irritating shapiro's voice is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7GtUE5sx-Y
Here is the vid for anyone who wants it. Erian starts at 52:30

>>18307143
In an interview the CEO said canada was the only non-US region they were considering bringing lite to, but the fact is it's never gonna happen. The second it does happen ibrk immediately becomes the top broker in canada, and (((they won't let that happen))).

>>18307142
It will go up a lot, retail hasn't gotten the chance to FOMO yet.

inb4 this is an exact repeat of 2008 with the week longs bull rush into another mega dump

>>18307167
could be

>>18306752
you'll need to explain why pepe is wearing a n95 mask which is supposed to be donated to healthcare professionals only.

>>18307163
I need to roll my retarded -66% spy puts out further again to june probably, hopefully I can scalp the price difference

>>18307151
It's 1.5% each way, so if you buy USD 100 you pay an extra 1.5, and if you sell USD 200, that's an extra 3.0, or 4.5 total for 100 profit, which is 4.5% in that artificial scenario. Think of it as a 3% fee if you want, but every profitable trade is actually a fee higher than 3% and every unprofitable trade is a bit less than 3%. Reminder that you can't actually hold USD, so you're forced to convert every time. It's even worse to think about for dividends: setup drip and you get USD dividends converted to CAD converted back to USD to rebuy the stocks.

>>18307167
Thus is history books material, it could be anything.

So I remember saying yesterday to some of you that I held some REITs like NRZ and NLY. Been heavily considering moving that money elsewhere (like food) because the dividends were either cit or reduced to nothing in the REITs. Thinking about QSR again. It's back to where I originally bought, and it may help add some stability until we see what's in the future for NRZ

is ford gonna go up tmmrw? :(

>>18307160
Well 0$ commissions are inevitable you can't put the genie back in the bottle even in canada. Banks are other discount brokerages are gonna see the amount of growth "free" traders are getting and jump into that market too.

>>18306940
>stocktwits
I dunno but they seem to be mass speculators.

>>18307139
>>18307147
>>18307167
>>18307199
Bullish

>>18307188
NLY collapsed last week

>>18307184
so the real poorfag big brain play is to buy US stonks on wealthsimple now but not sell them until IB lite is in canada

>>18307195
I remember you, it's gonna be painful. But if you've been holding since 16 and 10 then just hold. You would need to do research but they are mortgage REITs, so much riskier than normal rights. If this goes to zero would you be ok?

>>18306940
Stockwits is really anal with moderation. I got a warning after posting the throw a man out of a plane 4U meme.

>>18307216
futures going up, good call

>>18307204
Canada outlawed outflow sale, which was the main business model free brokers in the US used. Wealthsimple are the only ones who are trying out free brokerage, and their current model is to make US transaction so ridiculously expensive they're completely pointless. It's not clear if they'll ever have a sustainable business model while remaining free. The cucknadian jews will make sure to outlaw whatever idea they get to make sure they can keep charging $10 per transaction + $100 account free + $25 for inactivity + + +...

>>18307098
watching it, was about to post

His pleb tier questiosn are actually getting El-Erian to talk about some specifics he doesn't usually touch on.

>>18306736
>gets delivered to big corporations
>stock prices keep going up because the billionaires get their stimulus

>>18307220
It's not coming anytime soon

>>18306021
>lets have some integrity with the quality of the art on this website, huh?
No.

>futures up 3%
Oh ho ho ho

>>18307259
It's so fucked. What do I need to get an account with one of the free us brokerages

is there a quick way to link my vanguard 401k to my robinhood app so I can buy individual stocks. I'm 49 years old.

What’s with futures ? We expect a bunch of death this week

>>18306021
I can start brapposting if you want

waiting for limit up...

>>18307264
Yeah, he's saying inflation will go up because demand will recover before supply. Actually didn't think about that. Shapiro is a good interviewer at the least, asks nice and open ended questions that erian can expand on. He's also calling this an "economy wide destruction of consumption and production" with mass bailouts needed.

>>18306068
I would say its true but don't underestimate the potential of New Growth. To me Buffett is like a Old Forest investor, people who buy penny stocks are buying seedlings and the best thing to do are buy stocks in solid trees that have lots of room to grow that aren't going to dry out and light on fire.

Or something like that anyway just fucking buy Amazon.com lol

>>18306168
TDY looks freakin awesome to buy calls on before earnings down 110, also holy shit BAM is insanely undervalued, sometimes /biz/ is a pretty cool place

>>18306642
lol n00b this was literally just a 2018 drop replace China Virus with China Tariff press just made it seem like world was ending and made a lot of bears lose money and I feel for you, you can tell all the delusional retards on Stocktwits who are ALL IN on puts and they keep saying durr priced in because they can't accept they bought the medias bullshit hook line and sinker

>>18307277
THIS one's geometry does make sense though.

futures going down, huge dump.

>>18307220
No, you'd buy on ib pro and wait for ib lite. This avoids the 1.5% conversion fee and should make transfer easier. From the ibrk lite pamphlet, it looks like they're performing the first 3 back-and-forth between pro and lite immediately, and then once every quarter, which is still a pretty good wait time (considering their relatively low fees during the wait period, and assuming we aren't eligible for the automatic conversion).
I'm assuming, of course, that $1 is less than 3% of the value of the assets you want.

The advantage is overall marginal, for sure, and as a counter-point, I'll note that wstrade said they're planning to reduce (to suitable levels) USD conversion fees and to introduce USD holding accounts (which would enable norbert's gambit so no problem with conversion fees ever again), though no clue when that's happening. It sounds like a better bet, but again, no clue how they'd make money at that point and therefore not sure they'll ever pull through.

>>18307343
lol

>>18307355

>>18307355

>>18307355

NEW THREAD

>>18307296
they don't think it will be so bad in the future, duh

>>18307296
People think we peaked because one day of less deaths in New York.

>>18307285
You need to be a US citizen (or permanent resident perhaps). Many of the free US brokers do serve canadians, but they do so under basically an identical fee structure to any other broker ($5-10 per trade, possibly account fees and minimums).

>>18306843
>>18306820
What about for buying and selling

>>18307305
qt anime girl, anon. I like where this is going. Please do.

>>18306258
I fucking knew that I had more of this artwork somewhere!!!
>>18307380

>>18307405
who is this semen demon?

>>18307427
Azrael Renee

>>18307443
does she?

>>18307427
No idea, anon.
I just pull these images at random.
Try Yandex. I've heard it gets the best results.

>>18307460
Nah shes an instathot

who the fuck are these boomer investors abroad that are jacking up futures? are they retards?

>>18307167
thats exactly what it is. retards are investing based on currnet corona reports. fucking morons dont realize in 2 months nobody is going to have a job to return to, 80% of small biz will be shuttered, nobody will be spending because noboyd has a job, big retail corps will have catastrophic losses, lenders and creditors will fail becasue everyone will default. lmao at the bulls, im actually grateful it allows me to buy puts and inverses on the cheap.

>>18307293
fuckng boomertards

LIMIT UP ALREADY FUCK

get the memo everyone, BULL MARKET

>>18307522
You seem to think that workers have much to do with the value of a company. If working your wage slave job hasn't taught you that they don't value you, then maybe watching the stock market will show you that you're not of value to the stock market.

No more lewd anime posting please, I have saved too much already

>>18307566
k brainlet

>>18307522
How are more people not coming to this conclusion? The consooming will cease.

>>18307017
Open a future contract for ACRE. Some guy from wall street will deliver your land in a truck.

>>18307235
I know plenty of folks have made some (in hindsight) bad decisions. It wouldn't be the end of the world, but definitely seeing something you invest in go belly up would be kinda gut wrenching. Those REITs only make up 8% of my totals, so it isn't going to destroy me or anything.