/biz/ - Business & Finance

>tfw 100% cash and don't know what to do
I was expecting a dip on Monday to buy back in.

>>18309150
buy into RTX and BAM

This thread has a mini-game component to it. I want to buy a new washing machine. I want a front-loader, ideally larger capacity (4.5 cubic feet).

If I get a good recommendation, I will give a stock pick that is guaranteed to deliver triple-digit returns.

>speculating on random squiggly line in a volatile global economy

Looks like we're headed straight for an א shaped recovery boys

>>18309150
im sure itll dip again
there will be a bull run, and then despair because the economy didnt instantaneously recover
this market is so fucking irrational
and its going to stay irrational too

First

>>18309166
Down on RTX so I have to hodl.

Accept reality that the market makes very little sense.

>>18309179
Oh, we are. Seething bearcvcks and COWardly former bvlls, let's review the paradigm shift, shall we?

>infections flatlined in Evrope, soon to retvrn to normal - BVLLISH
>China's manvfactvring beat expectations - BVLLISH
>Sovth Korea, Japan has almost no infections - BVLLISH
>low case nvmbers in tropical covntries, svggesting the virvs does not do well in warmer climes, especially svmmer - VERY BVLLISH
>NYC has hit the peak, California, Oregon, Washington all fine and normal - VERY BVLLISH
>prodvction of oil going into rapprochement and fixing global economy very soon - EXCEPTIONALLY BVLLISH
>bailovts and infinite QE - the most BVLLISH thing of all

Yov'd have to be legally blind to not recognize the good news. Step ovtside of yovr /pol/ echo chamber and embrace the bright BVLL fvtvre. Yovr children will thank yov.

BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

>>18309186
God you're so annoying, even as a bull myself. Go back to whatever shithole you were at before vacationing here during quarantine.

>>18309184
>down on RTX
DCA unironically

Let's assume everything is "priced in"
What's fueling this rally?

>>18309186
yikes

>>18309194
Oil deal close

>>18309194
killing bears

>>18309191
COWardly bvll does not wish to see the light, corrvpted by the bearfag that so desperately claws at his psyche. Repeat these three words for the V-shaped recovery. It is not too late to turn yovr gains into FAST MONEY.

BVLL. BVLL. BVLL.

>>18309186
i think there will be a bullrun that lasts long enough to ruin me, and then a collapse after all.
china has long been due a steep correction. the level of government manipulation and fraud has propped it up too long. this temporary shutdown may break the camel's back.
for that matter, the entire global economy is due a correction, but especially so China. at least in the US the fundamentals are strong, even if this is a bubble

>>18309194
Putin and KSA apparently are getting close to a deal
A fuckton of short squeezes that are going to happen tomorrow.

>>18309194
It is a bear market rally. Warren Buffet just showed lack of confidence, so everyone is going to rally up then just take profits and short the way down.

>>18309182
I think those are getting framed as some of my greatest shitposts of all time.
>tfw you know that you've peaked and may never scrape the glory nor expressive power that you've already attained before

>>18309209
This is the correction, any bvll worth their salt know this. Monetary valvations were already in line. We will never approach 2008 nvmbers ever again and the delvsional bears here are working themselves into a seething cope. I recommend dilation to vnderstand the jovrney of pvrity for all BVLLCHADS.

Trump getting charged with crimes against humanity. BULLISH

I could feel it bros.
THE BULL

>>18309212
they delayed the meeting

>>18309186
>completely ignoring the real news
Oil deal did a 180

Stanford’s got a test that identifies who’s been exposed. So we can see those who already has antibodies and got better without symptoms.

>>18309232
Virtval meeting has been schedvled instead. Keep coping, bear, it's time to hibernate forever. Make svre to vncvck yovrself by MAGAing in November. God bless.

>>18309232
OPEC delayed the meeting, but one of the Russian Ministers tweeted that Russia and KSA are getting close to a deal to cap production.

>>18309203
>V-Shapes recovery

Sorry, I'm
>>18309228
And I definitely do not see this happening even though I'm bullish.

The economy has to contract from the slow-down and then rebound.

>>18309222
man whats the purpose of this. This drug is possibly effective. Early data is not terrible so theres a good chance no just look like an idiot.

>>18309213
Pay attention!
Oil deal!
Better corona numbers than feared!
Possible technological progress in testing!

>>18309218
>This is the correction, any bvll worth their salt know this. Monetary valvations were already in line.
i know you're playing a character, but you're insane if you think this was the correction. China has so far to fall. in 2015/16, they fucking banned institutions from selling, and pumped in hundreds of billions until the numbers started to rise again. its a testament to how brittle their economy is. and that was during a time of global plenty. all their valuations hinge on government manipulation. they're due a near catastrophic collapse, and itll echo globally. maybe the US will be spared the worst of it, but we aren't getting off unscathed

>>18309236
I forgot to mention the antibody test, but I did mention the BVLLISH oil deal on the way. That is why we are green, BVLLCHAD.

>>18309192
Already at 11 shares, but not sure if I want to grab TDY instead

>>18309241
But I think that contraction is still bullish from these current levels.

>>18309176
Sorry, it's a back loader.

>>18309244
>Better corona numbers than feared!
So basically it's just oil rebound on rumors, thanks for clarifying.

Everyone who has a functional brain knows the virus is WORSE than anticipated.

>>18309256
i could fuck her and she could wash her hair at the same time...

>this retarded loser spamming the v word to replace the u for a whole week after getting annihilated a month ago
that's just pathetic lmao

what the fuck is this shit

>>18309261
>her
Anon...I..

ASX just had a huge day

>>18309259
Yov bears are sad, sad, pitifvl creatvres. We will not remember yov when the economy tops 30k. Very vnAmerican behavior. Very, very sad. Sad. Sad! Can't wait to see yovr emotional collapse. Keep denying, keep coping. It's okay, booboo. Kiss.

>>18309266
An opportunity

>market go up on rumors
>market go down on reality
i think i've cracked it boys.

>>18309179
Does it bother you that I regularly make money speculating on said squiggly line in said volatile global economy?

>>18309259
Priced in

>>18309222
So is she gong to push for France, SK, and China to be charged on the world stage too?

>>18309244
>Oil Deal
Fine, OPEC still has to agree with it although thats just a formality
>Better corona numbers than field
NYC (the current epicenter) had one sideways day that made them adjust their exponential growth figure, and yet Detroit and New Orleans are currently spiking in new cases
>Tech Progress
There is progress everyday but that doesn't mean we are getting close to any viable solutions. Being able to detect asymptomatic people doesn't matter because you have to be proactive rather than reactive, and the tests have to be cheap enough to test everyone over and over again.

Its just fucking oilfags getting erections.

>>18309244
Why would Warren Buffet dump Delta then. Whether you like it or not, the market follows momentum and he set momentum. There already was going to be a rally Monday to short squeeze due to the recent positive news, but this set the trend in stone.

The real state of affairs have nothing to do with market performance right now. It doesn't matter if corona is a nothingburger right now or if it will kill us all. The market isn't rational that way, it only cares about making a profit. Why keep going up when things are bad enough to get away with selling and shorting after a high that convinces others to sell too? Why run it up when you can make profits right now running up and down? It will take a lot of time for the markets to straight bull run again, don't think rationally. Think in terms of what makes the most profit by fucking the most people. That is how the jew do.

>>18309286
Louisiana, and Washington already peaked

>>18309266
Positive economic sentiment after the over-reaction to Corona virus.

I hope you aren't shorting anything at this point in time. You may get something, but I think you will most likely see a crab market for a few months and then a bull-run.

>>18309259
The numbers that are reported are more important than the reality.

And how is the virus worse than feared? Big money saw Italy, saw the chinks sealed into their apartments.

But yes, fracking companies not continuing to default is bullish.

The market might make a V shaped recovery but the economy won't. If oil recovers the lows won't be as low as doomers predicted, maybe we fall back to 220-200 at most in a couple months. But the economy will recover by next year to 300+ for sure.

>>18309286
America has to do something to the level of kowtowing to Russia to make them cap production, they could not give a shit what American Shale wants

>>18309262
It’s been over a year newfag

Here's a bvll pic for tonight before I depart. I'm feeling this is going to be a VERY green week, excited. Keep vp the good fight, BVLLCHADS. This is it. It's all vp from here. God bless and good night.

>>18309286
It does matter. People who’ve already fought it off will be willing to go to work, could even give immunity permits to those people. Or have them donate plasma (takes a little longer than donating blood)

>>18309292
Berkshire “dumped” like 20% of its position. You don’t have to guess why, he’ll explain it at the shareholders meeting.

I bet it was a position managed by Todd or ted or one of the others. Dumping it gave them a less than 10% position so buffer is now free to do as he pleases with those stocks.

We will see.

the best TA ever posted on smg

I was approved to trade tomorrow

I have 1k. What should I spend it on?

Thanks guize

>>18309304
> to 300+ for sure.

Bullshit. We've only now corrected the hugely inflated economy to "normal levels" and we will see the corona effect once Q1 earnings come in.

>>18309333
What is even going to make that fucker crash and burn if the Fed will just pump fuck tons of liquidity to prevent a meltdown

>>18309345
look closer at the picture

>>18309345
It's upside down, meaning the dow goes back up

How many days do you expect this rally to last?

long gold
long bitcoin
long kroger
and tomorrow i want to long AAL

what else??

>>18309352
>>18309354
Is there an example of a v shaped recovery of this magnitude in history? It is much easier and faster to break something than rebuild it.

>wont get any more cash until the 25th
>All these cheapies in front of me
FUUUUUUUCK

>>18309359
rest of the week, fucking 10 dollars every day

>>18309370
don't worry, they will be even cheaper soon.

>>18309354
>DOW's normal is down-trend
That is so god damn stupid even if it's a joke image.

Ooooohhhhh bullfagggggsssssssssss

>>18309339
Q1 earnings can only be bullish when companies beat current expectations. Nobody is expecting anyone to have had a good Q1 or even have a good Q2. Current stock prices are basically priced around expectations of the asset in 3-4 months. Things that aren't priced in will almost have to be bullish, aside from natural disasters and wars (which nobody wants given COVID problems). It'll take time for the varying degrees of COVID problems in each country to actually start dragging the market down. Plus unlimited QE means if inflation happens stocks will keep high prices along with inflation that may happen.

>>18309333
I can't believe this is actually happening

mmm Sandersons Farm

sold my shorts
we will go red now boys

>>18309391
Thank you for your sacrifice anon. Your gains will return to the Great Bear.

>>18309299
I need all of you permabulls to promise me once you’re all BTFO by the end of the month that you’ll be less cocky and more friendly. Hard mode: convert to the market sentiment chimera master race

>>18309309
I’ve been on 4chin since 2007 and on /biz/ since the days of /rhg/ and I don’t remember it. Forced me or just gay

Please just go to war with china. Everything will be fixed if we go to war with china.

>>18309411
Permabulls will still manage to lose less than doomer bears. Option writers will be the real winners.

>>18309411
Trust me, we may sink to 2100 S&P at worst, but then it's going straight back to at least 3000 just to keep everything going in accords with population growth

/smg/ is convinced it’s a big green day
has anyone ever gone broke betting against /biz/

>>18309446
>>18309411
Well, miscalculated, meant 2300 S&P.
Definitely not going below the old low with that 2 trillion dollar stimulus

>>18309362
>Kroger over Costco (or Walmart)
What why? Even Target might be better. Not sure though
>>18309411
>this screenshot
Lmaaaololololol

>>18309430
Kabbalah bvll is not new

>>18309373
This. It’s retarded
>>18309333

>>18309368
Except nothing broke.

Most companies are still ready to go, plenty of countries flattening curves and getting well onto corona. Vaccine is on the way bit by bit. The only thing that changed is people are having a holiday at home and getting free money from the government. The markets huge crash was an over reaction and it is currently cheap af. When people realise that it cant go much lower unless things actually start breaking, then they will buy and up it goes.

>>18309135

now we wait for the econ crash post corona or corona striking again in a country that opens itself, like italy

if that does not happen, then i'll short a third world country, like brazil or mexico

>>18309217
Are you on crack brah

>>18309450
Unless there's literally another 9/11 we're still going to be in the green tomorrow. And I think another 9/11 would still be bullish.

>>18309468
Vaccine isn't even remotely on the way (minimum 1 year). The big problem will be a highly infectious disease that's going to cause a lot of intermittent sick leave for companies and a lot of industries that will have to adjust for changes in demand because the virus is still around, albeit much less scary.

What’s the best ETF that tracks DOW?

>>18309468
>lol just stop the global economy for an unstated period of time it’ll be fine

yikes... way too bullish in this thread. everything's fine guys!!! no need to worry boys and girls!!!!!!

>>18309483
SDOW

best options platform for aussies?

>>18309490
no, everything is terrible and on fire, but the market is going up anyways

>>18309502
Is speculative trading even legal in your muslim shithole nanny state?

>>18309362
Why are you longing Kroger instead of Ingles (IMKTA)?

>>18309483
DIA
SDOW is inverse

>>18309493
Thanks fren

Rate my portfolio plz - I have muh cost basis included

AAPL - 180
BA - 350
BP - 34
CVX - 90
MCD - 165
RDSA - 50
SBUX - 65
T - 29

>>18309493
That's 3x inverse, DIA tracks it normally.

>>18309493
>>18309516
Thanks frens. I’ll add both to the watchlist

>>18309514
>>18309459
kroger is doing store pickup like mad right now.
personally most of my expendable money in lockdown is going to better food, snacks, and i have a HUGE grocery bill because i don't eat out.

i think people will learn to cook in lock down, realize how many meals they can make at home, and when the virus is over KR will see sustained revenue growth.

that's not an opinion i see a lot on bloomberg, they all think people are going to rush back to restaurants. fuck that.

>>18309530
Needs more NTDOY COST PEP
and LOADS OF KO

>>18309530
>boeing at 350
I mean damn dude I guess you should just DCA down and pray but holy fuck

>>18309514
i've never heard of imkta. Kroger is much larger, though, so it's easier to get in and out of your options.

I think I'll nab SPXL and sell Tuesday/Wednesday. What's the worst that could happen? NY cases suddenly explode? OPEC cancels cuts because US producers don't agree?

>>18309544
for best results buy 50/50 SDOW and UDOW and hold them forever, and remember to rebalance every month!

>>18309547
I'd be down to add COST, PEP, and KO but I'm not sure about NTDOY

>>18309564
no, the worst that can happen is a sudden massive solar storm or gamma ray burst that wipes out all electronics and possibly all life on whichever half of the planet was unlucky enough to catch it

>>18309560
I thought about buying more at 97 but I felt so fucked at that point haha. Sad thing is I sold TSLA for a 15% gain right before the mega run and then I started buying BA. Boy was that a bad idea.

>>18309580
I asking for the worst, not the best.

NOOOOOOOOO MY MONEY HAVENT ARRIVED, I CANT LOAD UP ON SHORTS GOD NOOOOO

What are you guys thinking of buying on the open to profit off this brief bear market rally?

>>18309222
Ladies and gentlemen, the 46th president of the united states...Mike..Pence!

>>18309564
Well let’s see Yellowstone is about to blow, there’s a meteor heading straight towards us, dormant volcanoes are becoming active, more earthquakes than usual everywhere and we are in a pandemic with cases quadrupling every week

>>18309236
This could be ruskie tricks. I'd expect bullish oil until something actually happens, but the bottom could fall out instantly if they say "lol jk no deal".

>>18309600
how long do u think bullrun will last? i have a tiny bit left over for shorts
but honestly i can only afford the shittiest short term shorts
is this market so volatile that the bullrun will last a week or less?

>>18309603
HSU, which is Canadian SPXL

>>18309618
it will last till thursday, until russians pull the plug because today we are announcing that we have two stress tests for russian business - 10$ and 20$ oil price

>nikkei and euro markets opening green
NOOOOO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

>>18309236
>>18309615

Is there a way to short State bonds? Seems like states that are oil dependent would be good to short. Texas, Louisiana, Texas, Alaska, Calgary... etc.

Also it seems like states will be desperate and rush into more mining projects as a source of income.

is this bullish
https://mobile.twitter.com/issarro/status/1242952463126167552

>>18309222
Checked. But include a link next time faggot. Fake tweets are everywhere.

https://twitter.com/repgalonski/status/1246981735876870144?s=21

>>18309605
I would welcome it
I think you’re insane if you don’t acknowledge Pence is more competent by now.

This is your last chance. You will never see this bottom again.

is boris johnson death bullish or bearish?

>>18309176

Worked appliance sales at HD for a while. All the big names are pretty even right now in quality. The Korean makes are trying gimmicky things to separate themselves--i.e. mini loaders, and touchscreens. If you don't want the prettiest thing, save a little and get a whirlpool/maytag or a GE. Believe it or not GE, despite it s other business failures, does appliances pretty well.

If you want the bells and whistles, get an LG. Samsung cuts corners at every opportunity to keep up with LG; They're anodized coating suck and at least until late, their materials were absolutely pathetic.

Just avoid Fridgidaire/Electrolux; their quality is garbage lately. Bosch is very VERY nice but I suspect they're priced to adjust for euro import taxes and so they're a little too expensive.

What triple digit ticker did I win?

>>18309530
imagine if you had jumped ship at the end of February and bought back now.

the hardest part about stocks really is to know when to take profits.

>>18309502
IBKR

>>18309411
god damn phoneposters

>fucking weeks of crabbing with no positive news only for market to randomly fucking skyrocket
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18309663
bearish
but the Queen's death will be truly bearish
even though it should have no bearing on the stock market at all, the UK100 will crash. all the weeping britbongs panicking. they did a study where they found, if an earthquake happens nearby, people are more likely to believe there will be a recession. mental spillover. imagine the panic when the queen dies

>>18309671
Yeah, I've said to myself before to expect a 50% drop in portfolio value but I didn't think it would happen yet haha. The good news is I reinvest divvies and I have a 40 year timeline.

>>18309671
The second hardest point is knowing when to buy

>>18309693
The third hardest part is knowing when not to sell?

Just buy high and sell low right?

>>18309699
In my experience, losing money hurts a lot more than losing profits and more than losing potential profits.

>>18309256
there we go, now it's alright to save and spread this image

[RTRS] Japan Gvt Stimulus Draft Says Global Economy Faces Biggest Crisis Since World War Two Over Coronavirus - Draft
-To Mobilise "All Steps" Including Fiscal, Monetary And Tax Policies, To Respond To Virus Fallout

I can smell all the stimulus

plz pass CARE 2 in USA

>>18309664
GE doesn’t make appliances anymore. They sold the rights.

>>18309713
How do you lose money anon just don't sell
Losses aren't real just look away

why is it taking so long to hit limit up

>>18309663
>Leader of financial capital of Europe Hospitalised
>FTSE green all around

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>18309683
>Checks portfolio
>*Sips*

>>18309726
NOT IF YOU DO FUCKING KNOCKOUT ETFS

>>18309732
>London
>financial capital of Europe
maybe before brexit LOL

>>18309135
fellow kraut /biz/raelis, I have a question about Degiro. Do I have to declare taxes at the end of the year to the Finanzamt? or Degiro does that for me? I am a good goy and i have no intention of evading taxes.

If AMD and XOM go down while the market is going up for no fucking reason at all I'm going to fucking kill somebody.

>>18309738

My home value just spiked

7%?

>>18309759
Japan Chief Cabinet Sec: Japan Has No Legal Capacity To Impose Lockdown

fuck lockdowns

>>18309719

Yes and no. GE was bought out by Haier but they're still made in the U.S. The quality is still decent. Shits depressing.

>>18309754
If XOM goes down while oil moons tomorrow then this truly is a complete clown market.

>>18309754
Hodl. I have RDS.B XOM CVX COP HAL AMD GOOG AAPL LMT KTOS and RTX. Going to let them sit. AMD and RTX are my problem childs right now, no real movement up

>>18309766
I'm hoping for 10%

expecting the squeeze effect to pop it higher than expected

>>18309699
Third hardest part is is making sure to buy companies whose CEO's won't contract the coronavirus.

>>18309718
REEEE
I MISSED THE GENERATIONAL BOTTOM IN THE NIKKEI!!

>>18309713
true...but isn't pain just weakness leaving the body?

>>18309717
>>18309256
this is absolutely basic bitch instathottery... at least orbit someone with a bit of uniqueness. This bitch has ass implants and fake tits and nothing else but an oiled up ass and a string barely covering her asshole.

>>18309754
I'm gonna thank the market for a chance to DCA down on AMD honestly. NVDA would be nice too.

>>18309186
what about all the lost jobs and companies going bankrupt and creditors going bankrupt?

evne going by these "good news' updated model projections, thats assuming everything stays closed until May. and we will have outbreaks all over agian as soon as we reopen air travel. how are small businesses going to pay their workers? their rent? how are people going to pay their rents and mortages? none of the stimulus shit is enough money, or even working fast enough. how are big businesses going to keep all their workers stocked while going on billion dollar loans that they cant pay because nobody is buying their products or services because everyone cant even pay rent and is just worried about food? corona economy effects is going to last a lot longer than 1 month

Have a feeling I've bought too much stock too soon.

Pic related. Feel like it's the equivalent of buying in 1929 soon after it crashed assuming "it can't go lower without collapsing the usa" when it actually could.

>>18309757
Based

>>18309801
Why don't you sell at the top of the dead cat bounce then?

medium roast
french press
no sugar or other additions

>>18309797
I only spent 1/3 of of my cash buying this “dip”. I’m ready if it goes lower.

>>18309747
degiro is not "steuereinfach" so from my knowledge you have to do the taxes yourself

shit
turns out maybe I would've kinda liked fountains of wayne if they didn't have that stupid song that got too big.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKUp2oOEFP8

RIP
...on second thought maybe they were nothing special, and I just need new music.

>>18309801
no one fucking knows what's going to happen next. I don't think the crisis is over because of one night of good results and an end to the oil price war. But I also don't think it's 1929.

>>18309810
>attempting to call the top of anything

>>18309754
i want AMD to go down more i sold at 45 $ and i want to buy in below 40 if it never goes below 40 again i am sad

>>18309754
>Pbf with strong fundamentals and liquidity have been going down regardless of oil going from 22 to 29
>Oxy who is loaded with dirty debts has been flying upwards like a motherfucker

f-frens?
what is this?
please tell me i did not miss out on the best buying opportunity for decades.
you told me i was fine with warting.
please frens.

Nothing comfier than bobos in dispair

>>18309186
You said NYC had peaked a week ago, and the week before that

>>18309842
I will literally never understand this. I think it's just the flood of rich retarded stock newfaggots flooding the market with their stupid money completely throwing pendulum of everything out of sync.

>>18309829
i think they do withhold the taxes if there is any income, otherwise why would they ask about tax residency?
Or that means I still have to report the taxes anyway?

>>18309853
its return to normal, son

big guys are keeping the market afloat for the new influx of people to buy their bags, same pattern at every start of a recession. banks are literally going to media to announce that we hit the bottom. screencap this for next thread or something.

>>18309336
tomorrow's gonna be green dude, just wait till the s&p is sub-2500 again to buy

>Germany in lock down
>DAX +4%

>>18309884

>>18309872
Then why are one of the biggest bears in our society bullish?

>>18309884
>everyone is producing literally nothing
>no good news for over 3 weeks now
>literally NOTHING that could hint that this is over or close to over
>futures up to almost limit

This literally makes no god damn fucking sense.

>>18309884
DAX isn't germany, it's a clone of s&p
literally all of germany could die and DAX would still run +%

Why didn't you flip last week bobos? I told you it wasn't too late to buy calls! How much more are you down now? Don't you know when it's time to cut your losses?

We will force bobos to capitulate this week.

>>18309888
smart bears are riding the wave up, what's your point?

>>18309135

Daily reminder - this is who will win in the long run.

>>18309790
Steve Jobs won't get Coronavirus you fucking retard

>>18309891
>every central bank is starting several stimulus packages
>gv subsidies every single business and employee with cash
>Virus is only a short term meme

This literally makes no god damn fucking sense if you have 2 digit IQ like pic

>>18309909

>>18309214

I am more powerful than Jerome.

>>18309921
>ruining your economy long-term is bullish

>>18309909
Plague doctor will win? Bullish

>>18309300

This is why bobos will win.

>>18309790
>at least orbit someone
i just removed the watermark, i don't know who that girl is

>>18309892
True tbf.

limit soon

>>18309915
Steve Apple took shelter quickly, all of big tech did. I think?

>>18309924
>>18309909
>doctors will win over a nothingburger flu
Based

Humanity prevailed over the other plagues, modern plague doctors will win!
BULLISH AS FUCK!!

So I just checked in, and why the fuck are futures so high up?

>>18309924
let's wrestle

>>18309891
It's misplaced optimism.
Which do you think is more likely? 6 weeks everything back to normal or lock down and regional hotspots for a year until a vaccine comes around?

Right now the optimists driving the market.

>>18309939
Why’s that?
Bobos don’t win in the long run

We got overly pessimistic, now we’re going to be overly optimistic until it’s time to get scared again.

>>18309952
Can confirm, Company buddies in the valley sheltered very early. NYC buddies fled the city

>>18309960
revision of projections for coronavirus that are much more bullish

>>18309930
Isn't this the whole goal of the system today? Nobody cares about long-term effects, go full retard on short-term. Democracy is all about it.

Boris is is hospital. It's all a scam but a fucking good one. Will shit people up. People in London especially. People in London are retarded. It's all been priced in that they might actually stay at home now

>>18309978
It’s just boomers. It’s worked for them their whole lives.

>Futures up 4%
Okay, what did Trump say this time?

Do you retards seriously think this shit is over? Q2 earnings for 99% of companies will look miserable. If you're investing in stocks now, you're an utter fucking retard.

>>18309222
What the fuck is wrong with those people?

>>18309995
"The"

>>18310000
yes

>>18309924
I wonder how effective a plague doctor getup would be if you replaced the pleasant herbs with an actual filter like activated charcoal

>>18310000
>investing
No one does this in /smg/

>>18309974
So basically,
>Trust us goy, the models were wrong
is what amounts to good news nowadays.
I know the markets will rise for a bit, but overall I'm feeling all the more bearish.

>>18310000
checked, but that doesn't fucking matter in the slightest. No one thinks they'll be good, they might not even have to report.

what might matter is if companies stop doing buybacks for a few years, or even stop raising divvies.

>>18310000
checked and shorted

>>18310028
This. I'm genuinely starting to think that 90 Percent or more just larp hard when things go up or down.

If you really lost that much money you wouldn't come on her and post a wojack in dispair. You might come on and post a smug pepe in good times but I do think it's mostly just BULL BULL BEAR BEAR larp

>>18310000
so everybody took a long vacation. it has no impact on future values.

Bearbros I think we just got warped out of reality.

good night /smg/ may your stonks only go up and may your options be ITM

>>18310000
quads are priced in

>>18310053
He doesn't mean we don't buy stocks, he means we don't invest.
/smg/ is for gambling advice

>>18310074
I still stand by what I've said though

>futures drop to +3.5% and couldn't reach limit unlike previous rally
yeah this is just a fake pump this time.

>>18309852
>missed out on bitcoin
>missed out on two crashes
>missed out on teenage love

bounce to 22.5k and then dump into the abyss for the near future?

>>18310087
>>18310053
Buy stonks at 3/5 year bottoms last month, real returns in a year+ from now. No point in doing anything except shitpost. Value investing isn't conducive for discussion.

>>18310036
>financial statements and future outlooks don't mean shit anymore
lmao how do you think companies determine if they buy back stocks or keep dividends? most retarded shit I've ever read here, even tripfags aren't this delusional.

>>18310103
>fibonacci

>>18310088
>fake pump across all futures

>>18310074
Even the gambling advice here is pretty shitty.
Most of you don't know anything about options.
If you talk about individual stocks that aren't >50 billion mcap you sperg out and call it shilling.
The only thing that seems wanted here are bull and bear drawings which you would expect from a preschooler.

and oil dumping now
bulls that bought at the top for today about to get blown the fuck out

>>18310088
You write like hitting futures limit is common. That kind of thing only happens at peak panic or peak squeeze.

tell me, why does starbucks pump if everything is on the fucking lockdown? who buys overpriced coffee now with no job?

>>18309884
Based DAXCHADS

>>18310128
Jerome, who else?

looks like majority of earnings will be reported end april / beginning of may, should i buy puts for expiration mid may to be sure ?

>>18310118
that is how it be

>>18310137
Iseq is also Chad right now

interesting

>>18310103
Stop trying to anticipate more than one move in the future. It's not helpful. Figure out a way to confidently anticipate ONE move, then adjust as needed with the new price action data following it.

>>18310053
>it's mostly just BULL BULL BEAR BEAR larp
Anon, what if I were to tell you that some people actually found it amusing to post bulls when stocks are up, and bears when stocks are down, and then say “told ya so” and act smug? Would you believe me?

Lol everything is fine guys.

Whoah peep the thin volume between the 15 min point of control and 2550 :o

>>18310112
Trump's tweet about oil was sent right when we were on it and was on its way to break it though. You just know.

>>18310161
Temporary emergency job loss does not equal permanent job loss. The data on recovery speed will dictate how much of a headwind this is for the economy later this year.

>>18310161

who cares, most of those will get their jobs back, business just using gov to pay this vacation for them

anyone that trades emissions? what happened earlier in middle of march?

>>18310161
hahaha saved that and going to show my wife in the morning :D

>>18310161
unemployment insurance and the $1200 will bridge the gap if econ stop is short.

>RTX UP 7% PREMARKET
this makes my tomahawk become the nuclear tomahawk

What the hell is SC value?

What is this pattern?

>>18310214
>I sold my shares for a $5 loss and bought GS
REEEEEEEEEE

>>18310219
>japan

>>18310219
small cap

>>18310219
Small Cap Value

NEW COVID-19 TREATMENT HOPES
Meanwhile, a blood-thinning drug which is already in use for heart attack and stroke victims, could reduce the number of deaths from COVID-19 and the demand for ventilators.

A new research paper has argued for clinical trials of the drug, which contains a protein called tissue plasminogen activator (tPA) which is ordinarily used to break up blood clots, on COVID-19 patients who are in acute respiratory distress.

The trials are based on emerging data from other countries that the COVID-19 patients have a profound disorder of blood clotting that is contributing to their respiratory failure even when they are on ventilators.

The lead author of the research Dr Michael Yaffe, A David H. Koch Professor of science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said “if this were to work, which I hope it will, it could potentially be scaled up very quickly, because every hospital already has it in their pharmacy.”

“We don’t have to make a new drug, and we don’t have to do the same kind of testing that you would have to do with a new agent. This is a new drug that we already use. We are just trying to repurpose it.”

Dr Yaffe, said the research which appears in the Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery, showed in a previous trial that 20 patients who were in respiratory distress so severe they were not expected to survive, were given the drug and 30 per cent of did survive.

“What we are hearing from our intensive care colleagues in Europe and in New York is that many of the critically ill patients with COVID-19 are hypercoagulable, meaning they are clotting off their IV’s and having kidney and heart failure from blood clots, in addition to lung failure,” said Dr Yaffe.

Accumulate REFR cheapies

I'm not sure about the bear market anymore. The thing is as long as Europe is recovering, it won't matter that US is still hitting peak infection because everyone will see the light and be prematurely optimistic.
The only thing that will halt that optimism is if the US fucks up yet again like opening up too early or something.

also if y'all are willing to play meme biotechs you should really get into Antibe early this week before they announce their next stage of clinical trial results

>>18310225
like how the fuck are futures +4% but tesla down premarket.
fucking rigged shitshow clown market.

>>18310156
Absolutely

>>18310237
This is great news. Hope it helps the critical cases and brings down the fatality rate.

>>18310247
Your company is a literal piece of shit quick bitching

>>18310161
Priced in

>>18310247
He bought TESLA.

>>18310156
with high probability they even have losses at the same time

>>18310242
God damn it now I'm questioning my DRV and SRTY...

>>18310247
why the hell would tesla be effected by good news about oil and virus? because they put out a youtube video saying ventilator progress is going well?

Are they even part of the indices? QQQ or something?

>>18310256
agreed but... can't we let it take boris first? And I was really hoping for some congressional openings...

>>18310247
EU Tesla listing does not matter. You will find out where Tesla is going when US opens.

>>18310259
i am shorting tesla since the retarded rush to 950 fuck you

>>18310242
>The thing is as long as Europe is recovering
funny thing is, europe is not really recovering. nothing here is open yet. everything in lockdown, like the whole continent. thousands of businesses are going to be bankrupt within weeks if they are not so yet.
its only pumping youros like crazy.

as everywhere around the planet the markets are fully disconnected from the real world economy. they live from freshly printed money and all the pressure that stems from the cash that wants to be invested.

>>18310270
Tesla is a thousand dollar stock. Its discounted right now and you should buy more.

None of this makes sense. How are restaurants and hotels up?

>>18310276
>can't we let it take boris first?
No i like Boris and want him to live.

>>18310214
All looks like I'll add one more share to make even 12

>>18310287
The hope is they can reopen sooner than thought

5 hours

>>18310285
Are you actually serous????

>>18309184
>>18309166
Rtx is going to be a giant

>>18310295
16 is a more even number than 12 :^)

>>18310298
I don't see how anything reopens without me a vaccine or a very good outpatient drug therapy, honestly. I don't understand the optimism

>>18310287
This clown market is pants on head retarded.
The thought process is as follow :
>the worst are the news, the more the FED will go brrrr
>100% of the brrr money used by the companies to buy back stocks instead of investing/saving the jobs
>stocks goes up
>thus the worst it get, the more the market pump

>global great depression, NWO kikes taking over the world
OOOOHHHHHH
>+10 millions unemployed in 2 weeks?
IM
>total lockdown of 4.5 billions ppl?
GONNA
>petrodollar crashing to nothingness
COOOOOOMMMM

>>18310309
Yes.
Tesla, UBER and Facebook are my main investments. They are guaranteed to grow, and very safe.
>b-b-b-but these are normie stocks from normie companies abloblboblolo
Don't care, its free money.

>>18309894
I sold my bearish portfolio and planned to stay in cash till the bottom, but bought back in one more time for what looked like too large of a pump. Instead, I was BTFO by another enormous pump and lost 30%. Then I bought into SCO at the peak of the pump on oil from Trump's tweet, only for oil to pump more the next day. Depending on tomorrow, I might get out with only losing 30% on that too.

I've lost all of my gains from the initial crash (I sold off everything just before it started for short positions), and am now down about 10%. I wasn't expected the market to crash more or suddenly again, but the current behavior is absolutely insane to me. There are days I expect a modest 0.5-1% loss, and instead we pump 3.5%. It's absolutely unpredictable beyond anything I've personally experienced. I'd rather go back to cash at this point, flipping a coin each day would be more consistent.

>>18310320
herd immunity.

>>18310320
Not sure, I saw Washington’s projection basically has COVID19 eradicated by the end of may in America

I wonder whether my gains today from big green dicks will equal the SPXS I'm gonna have to sell at a loss

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE FRENS

>ftse starts free falling
>iseq soon follows

Fuck sake why do we sheep UK so much

>>18310298
Based on what? Even Abe "it's just bro" Shinzo announced a backpedal of massive proportions.

>>18310334
>COVID19 eradicated
lmao no
COVID19 is a new companion we will have walk with us for the rest of our journey as a species. We will domesticate it a bit, the strains that kill will themselves die off, killing your host is a bad strategy for a parasite. It will learn to be tamer, so that its hosts aren't stuck home, so that they go out and spread it, and we will domesticate it like we domesticated the flu and turned it from a cold blooded killer to an unfortunate week long stay in bed. But we are not eradicating it. Its too viral. We are too connected. And the world is too diversified in its strategy and economic ability, even if the virus just remains in 50 dudes in Africa it can explode from there. Reminder it only recently jumped to humans, and it was originally ONE PERSON who had it, and it has grown from that one dude outwards in a few months to conquer the planet. Good luck eradicating that.

>says brrrr
>understands nothing and goes on to act retarded
every.
single.
time.

>>18310295
do people actually buy stocks when they're green... and buy them BECAUSE they're green?!

>>18310292
He failed to protect my relative and they're quite possibly going to die. Fuck him and his mismanagement of this. Now who's this shadow chancellor on bloomberg, she looks OK for an old british ginger.

>>18310358
Tf happened to the FTSE did Boris die?

>>18310358
any news on bojo? is he under ventilation yet?

>>18310330
How the fuck do you achieve herd immunity when you have at best 1% of your population infected due to quarantining?

>>18310287
Rich and powerful bag holders are making it jump, so we can buy their baggage from them and be left holding it.

>>18310334
Seem like all it takes is one or two people to reach infection current infection levels again.
>>18310330
That's how you totally overload health care.

AND JUST LIKE THAT I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED YET AGAIN

>>18309135
>https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor

is this of any value whatsoever?

>>18310366
I already have some from far before and it's still cheaper compared to when I got them. You want me to wait until it's above the previous average to buy lmao. Just set a buy limit.

>>18310375
I saw an Italian study that up to 20,000,000 Italians might’ve had it. That would lower the r0 greatly

OH SHIT GOLDMANS HAS THE APPLE CARD
I THINK I BOUGHT THE WRONG BANK!!

Are they actually going to force them to cut their divvies if they don't do well in the stress test??

>"One of the most important variables that will determine whether banks have adequate capital to maintain dividends is the extent to which consumers draw down on outstanding credit-card lines," Goldman Sachs bank analyst Richard Ramsden said in a report on Thursday.

>Credit cards have an "outsized impact," Ramsden said, because lenders have extended some $2 trillion in those loans to consumers, and performance is so closely tied to unemployment.

>>18310326
>yeah bro, my main stocks are meme companies that have never earned any surplus
>a-any day now!

>>18310385
The market is random and stupid. Trading stocks is playing dice.
Invest, don't trade. Buy something you think will be worth 2x in 6-10 years, because of trends and developments you know of: 5G, renewables, some lawsuit coming to conclusion. Don't trade. 99% of traders lose money, and its literally dumb luck. Invest. Most investors make money. Most traders lose money. Most investors make money. Most traders lose money. The market is random and stupid, but economies go up.

I honestly think people who are completely insulated from the news would fare better in the market right now.

>>18310192
none of these jobs are coming back idiot. you think all those mom and pop shops are going to survive? or those airline admin jobs?

>European stocks rally on data showing slowing growth in coronavirus spread

>>18310422
Now look at the graph of daily reported infections in Italy and Spain asshole

>UK cell towers torched amid bogus conspiracy theories that link 5G with coronavirus
>There are floods of posts on Facebook claiming the coronavirus outbreak was caused by 5G, the fifth generation of mobile internet. Many of the claims center on the idea that the virus originated in Wuhan because the Chinese city had deployed 5G networks last year.

Brits should be quarantined from the rest of the world forever.

>>18310326
I'll stick with blood money blue chips. You don't happen to own LINK?

>>18310422
>the cancer is still growing
>but its growing slower than it used to be growing
>we are going to be under house arrest for a while longer still
>WE RICH NOW QUICK QUICK BUY RESTAURANT STOCK

>>18310298
NOBODY IS GOING TO USE THEM why cant bulls understand? who the fuck is going to be going on vacation in a month

>>18310422
eu indexes are so insignificant, there is literally an index for all of eu and it's smaller than s&p
they just follow s&p

>>18310431
>Brits fall for Chinese propaganda for the 1278th time

REAL CORONA HOURZ MY NIGGAS

ALL IN ON SQQQ IN 4 HRZ 40 MINS

MOVE BITCH U GOT CORONAVIRUS
OOOOH SHIT U GOT CORONAVIRUS

>>18310402
>Most investors make money.

I have to discredit everything you say because i know for a fact that this absolutely false

>>18310422
>LINEAR
>CLICK ON LOG
>PLATEAU
OKAY

>>18310385
is this a long then ?

People who actually want to invest are buying bonds right now.

>>18310428
>>18310448
literally seething bulls

I'd say I'm financially ruined, but I never made it to begin with

>>18310437
Kek this. My company, and it holds true for ALL of my friends, told us that as soon as it reopens, it's back to work, and vacations will be taken later. Meaning no one will be on vacation this summer. And we'll be able to take them in autumn/winter, just for the 2nd wave of Corona-chan, how lucky we are, and how well thought that was!

This is y'all'ses last chance to get in a Mk 41 VLS tube before RTX launches us to a low earth orbit intercept of a chinese spy satellite using the Raytheon Technologies™ Standard Missile 3™ advanced orbital defense and anti-ballistic-missile system

>futures went from 4% to 3.5 and dropping
I think the stupid optimist pump is running out of steam.

>>18310471
Lmao no bull is mad right now, look at futures

>>18310422
>it was weekend
>as soon as they release the lockdown cases will increase exponentially again
Why is it rallying again?

>>18310298
Based on what?

>>18310437
boomers, retard
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/cruise-bookings-2021-coronavirus.amp
boomers are literally braindead

TIME MR BULL? IS IT REALY THAT TIME AGAIN?

>>18310448
The R0 needs to drop below 1 before there's truly a light at the end of the tunnel. It's a good start, but we're not there yet.

>>18310431
Probably muslims though.

>>18310483

>>18310504
Damn bro you got me. A fucking exotic animal in shitty New York is sick. Time to sell

>>18310504
>cats can get the virus
Fug, the Chinese throwing their cats out of the 30th floor were actually right all along

>>18310491
The spike in bookings was from all the cruises that were cancelled. You get credit towards a future cruise, which expires, so you use it to book a new cruise. My boomer parents booked one for September with their credit.

>>18310504
>oh no
not the tigerinos

actually dont like that cats can get it

>>18310384
What happened bro?

UNIVERSITIES ARE STARTING TO OPEN IN CHINA NEXT WEEK FROM MONDAY, EXPECT SECOND WAVE!

>>18310521
Sure, I don't think the spike means much, but the fact that they're not down bigly means the "everyone will be scared to vacation / fly / cruise" meme doesn't hold water

>>18310384
Also
>>18310053

>>18310537
The only country that deserves a fucking second wave.

>>18310541
AAAAa

According to my analysis, DAX will drop to 9300.

>>18310558
it's okay bro you just lost 21 yurops, dunno why you have five decimal places

Pandemic has peaked already. Go back to buying.

>>18310475
What other defense you in? LMT, KTOS, GD, so far. BA is too shifty, but there is Honeywell for smooth large airspace/contractor. TDY had it's hands in many different tech besides aerospace.

>>18310568
This, looks so wrong

>>18310000
Bad earnings only matter if the investors through they'd be good. Its all about perception. Nobody thinks it will be good now, so even if its bad, thats expected. People buy in and stay in for the expected growth, not the immediate earnings.

>>18310568
AAAAAAAAAAA YOU AMERICANS ARE WORSE THAN THE AUSTRALIANS

Why the fuck would anyone drink chinese coffee of all things?

>>18310028
>>investing
>No one does this in /smg/
I have around $10k invested, and I'll invest another 1k this week. This as a poorfag saving money on a low wage.

>>18310571
I'm currently in KTOS and RTX, TDY is on my watch list, I'm mulling NOC because of the B-21 contract but I haven't looked into it deeply

>>18310569
>It's peaked already!
Said man for the seventh time this week.

>>18310584
How else will you get your daily recommended lead intake?

>>18310578
Wow thnx fren
Have a good day

>>18310593
lead and toxic plastics

ARRRRRRRRR WERE BE THE NEW BREAD?

>>18310586
>>18310571
also still considering FLIR, what do anons think?

>>18310541
Aaaand we’re back!

>>18310569

>>18310641
wait till the monday numbers come in. the weekends are usually lower in comparison to the rest of the week

>>18310655
>weekends
>it's literally 4 hours until NYSE opens

>he didn’t buy the generational bottom or short the generational top
>now that commander crab is in charge, he lose his chance at making the big gains

zoom should be somewhere around $10-20 not fucking $120. it's a fucking webcam program.
seriously what is it with these garbage overvalued american tech stocks?

>>18310660
should I bother sleeping or just stay up desu

>>18310569
>>18310569
look at march 30 you tard, did that mean we peaked back then when the cases "went down" after 1 day?

>>18310674
Enter the coffee zone or nap. Don't try without coffee unless you're not afraid of the gains goblin.

>>18309921
>Virus only a short term meme
With this being the only relevant thing you posted, i'd love to see some evidence

>>18310673
>zoom
>"""american"""

>>18310641
this is why the bull market surge is absolutely retarded. not enough data, literally one day of slightly reduced stats does not mean "the peak happened earlier"

>>18310667
to add the salt to the wound I knew that would happen since january but instead I sat on my ass

These are my stock picks, xom, rdsb, rtx, ssl, cvx, bp, ba, anyone got some tips on some other ones to pick up ?

>>18310684
>he doesn't know
Imagine how many other investors buy this "American" stock too.

>>18310684
i said american stock

I'm going full Ackman 100% long no hedges tomorrow

>>18310693
Look for blue chip tech, they are doing well

>>18310385
Read the white paper. Look at the chart. Decide for yourself. Why is this so hard?

>>18310693
-ba
+bam / bip / bpy
bpy spooks me though

>>18310710
Yeah constantly checking each day and seeing net negative sucks, but just have to resist the urge.

>>18310690
Same here man, and I missed the shift to a blowoff top look, and wasn’t patient enough to wait for the market to realize the dangers of corona, and fold the bottom of some blue chips I want. Made a lot of mistakes.

>>18310717
Do you believe bam would be a better investment than jpm ?

>>18310715
It actually is complicated and difficult to verify though... There’s no common education on how darkpools and MMs work.

>>18310693
I'm picking up RTX, SAIA, T, LUV, and FDX this morning
Also fuck BA

How aggressive should I be on this spy call

>>18310756
>>18310756
Invest in the new /smg/ while its low on posts. Its bound to grow!

>>18310726
I am now shorting this suckers rally to 2100-2000, then flipping long to 2800 and shorting again, if I am wrong, so be it, at least I am acting according to plan this time

>asia is green
>yurop is green
>usa is red

>>18310762
no your thread is shit fuck you

>>18310766
Not bad. I’m short smallcaps and going to try and withstand the pain until it shifts. Then use the gains to buy more blue chip favorites.

>>18310814
good luck and stay strong fren

>>18310660
well wait until numbers come out in the day

Oil gonna dump, pump or crab at opening?

>>18310952
pump, dump and then crab for the rest of the day

>>18310431
it's true tho

>>18310952
dump, pump and then crab for the rest of the day

>>18310482
quick, we need a very bad news for the market to pump further!