/biz/ - Business & Finance

Fuck that quack guy

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

I'm getting ducked... but in a good way

>>18921970
>18921975
lol

how do I short the people's republic of china

Why does retail still get suckered into dividend stocks so hard?
Growth has literally outperformed value at being value for nearly 2 decades now

>>18922001
Short zoom, amc and apple

I just need to know one thing. Where are my DraftKANGZ at? Are we hitting 30 first or back to 20 again?

>>18922001
Short retail.

Airbnb cuts 1,900 jobs, or around 25% of its global workforce
https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/05/citing-revenue-declines-airbnb-cuts-1900-jobs-or-around-25-of-its-global-workforce/

>>18922001
thats like trying to short the USSR in 1986. better have some far out puts

>>18921757
>>18921776
>>18921814
>Car sales up in China
>Just Wuhan was closed
All the numbers are fake s shit in China. Just look at the car numbers in the US, sales fell by 40%.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TOTALSA
China is fucking lying, as usual.

>>18922015
Old news and already priced in.

Futures looking bullish as fuck already, after seeing that China is doing really, really well again.

>>18922015
Poor Airbnb. They probably earn a lot more money than Uber but couldn't get their ipo listing out before everything went to hell for them.
>uber's entire cash "reserve" is literally from their initial ipo listing
I can't stop laughing

>>18922015
Kek. I remember a few years ago they changed their policy where you couldn't select who got to stay at your pad, because nobody ever let niggers stay at their place. Serves them right, I'd only want to rent out to nice white people too.

>>18922049
You kikes are unbelievable

Remember futures mean nothing at this point. We crabbing for awhile.
Go make that cunny money anonymous-kun.

>>18922060
My personal problem with them is they drive housing/apartment prices up by pseudo airbnb real estate "kings" that have like 6 properties that are only temporary tenants.

>>18922001
Short AMD and AAPL

>>18922078
>Futures don't mean anything if they don't act like i want them to!!!!11

>>18922071
Never bet against the jews.

>>18922015
In some alternate universe, AirBNB and gay Adam’s “The We Co.” IPO’d before the coronacrash happened. The bloodbath would have been so glorious.

>>18922097
That’s all I’ll do for the rest of my life

>>18922111
Trips of truth, ww2 was a hoax.

How much have you lost so far?

>>18922097
Futures are green dumbass.
I really don’t care.

>>18921975
Oh shit I was just talking about Elliot Smith. Fucking love his music.

I swear, everything company that remotely touches Boeing in some way is eating it right now. They are like the ultimate Typhoid Mary. MD running another aerospace company into the dirt.

>>18922111
>>18922119
>being retarded on purpose
Very cool!

>>18922086
at least that bubbles getting popped now, airbnb was fucking the housing market to the point it probably should've seen more regulation

>>18922190
i hope every boomer with twelve mortgaged apartments on airbnb commits sudoku. everyone who took out loans to buy into a bubble at its peak is dumb as fuck

>>18922190
I hope Airbnb fucking falls to the ground and all the fucks who bought property to rent out airbnb's also go bankrupt and lose all their money. Literally drove housing prices to the fucking moon in my area.

Tanker... chads?

>Go to a casino
>Go to the roulette table
>Company messed up colours and the cheap casino bought one with red and green colours
>"Red or green, place your bets, sir."
>Sit down
>Bet on red
>Its green
>"Bad luck I guess"
>Bet on red again
>Its green
>Croupier has a smug smile under his big nose
>Bet on red again
>Its green
>All others on the table are laughing
>Croupier calls other big nosed gentleman over
>All bet on green
>"I will show them. Red it is!"
>Its green
>Everyone is laughing and takes their money
>You look under the table
>Theres a questionable expedient under the table
>Obviously manipulated the game
>Everyone can see it
>Its obvious to everyone
>"YOU CANT DO THIS, THIS QUESTIONABLE EXPEDIENT IS BAD!"
>"Please calm down, sir. Our QE equipment is legal. Place your bets."
>You bet on red despite the odds
>Its green
>"No.. this cant be. This is illegal! It should be red! he is obviously manipulating the table! Hes not allowed to do that!"
>You bet on red again
>"ITS RED!"
>Croupier takes ball and puts it into a green field
>"Its green, sir."
>You leave the casino just to come back to do the same the next day
>You start to tell others how the game is rigged and always green
>You also continue betting on red
Thats your life on Bobo juice, kids.

>>18922190
What's wrong with airbnb? Why is people renting out a spare room such a problem?

>>18922283

>>18922348
It made people into vacation landlords which brought up value of real estate because these parasites are parasites

>>18922348
People renting out there spare room was how it was supposed to be used. What ended up happening was there was money to be made in buying up properties specifically to rent them out as airbnbs, it's like having motels in a residential area.

>>18922348
Because people use it as a way to be landlords and not rent out an extra room in the house.

People literally buy properties just to put them on airbnb, so kike boomers buy up apartments and rent them all out for 100 plus dollars a night, leaving it impossible for people trying to get a permanent residence get an affordable apartment since shekelberg has bought them all up for his scam. What I think was the original intention of Airbnb was if you have a house and an extra room or whatever you can rent it out to people who travel. But as usual kikes ruin everything and use it as a way to be slum lords.

>>18922348
That was originally the point of it. To supplement income for people that had space in a house. The problem is that interest rates are still so stupid low that you can mortgage a property and pay off your yearly obligations to it if you have like 1/3 or 1/4 occupancy of the property.
Then you had de facto airbnb rental "kings" that would leverage entire houses they never intended living in and just rent them out to airbnb guests. And it was most lucrative in precisely the places where housing prices were being crushed upwards.
Basically a giant fuck you to people who wanted to actually LIVE there.

i fell for the tanker meme. should i dump DHT and pick up GD tomorrow? im going long on defense

>>18922409
GD/LMT/RTX

The Defense trifecta

>>18922379
>>18922386
>>18922391
>>18922394
I didn't realize. It might explain why rent in my area has been going crazy the last few years. Is there any regulation on these?

>>18922010
I looked at this and I thought the risk/reward was too high. If things turn south, I'm pretty sure a sports betting company when sports aren't being played is a bad pick.

>>18922443
GD looks like it hasn't recovered much since the march dip. i already have a few racks in RTX and LMT.

>>18922459
Some places in the world yes. But it's difficult to enforce because literally everyone has incentives for letting it continue. Real estate agents sell more homes for a higher price. The higher prices drive up property values which is a boon to their neighborhood provided the guests keep to themselves. And cities still collect on the property taxes. The only people really fucked are those looking to live and work in the area, and they are unlikely to stay there or realize what is going on.
It's one of the many unintended side effects of having absolutely stupid easy credit for nearly a decade.

A p/e ratio of 117
woah...

>unspecified
uh oh tankerbros

>>18922010
Bought 100 shares. Going to put a stop loss for about 60 shares and hold on for a while. Has food momentum but i agree its a risky stock once the hype wears off

>futures green
FUCK I ALREADY SOLD

Whats the new "Big Iron" stock?

>>18922606
>futures don't matter
rig-right????

hahahaha

TSLA PREMARKET GAP DOWN THEN IMMEDIATE DUMP

>>18922536
Hell yeah. I could see it keep stepping up with every little news about the sports world coming back, and then tank when sports actually get started again and people realize they own a meme stock. Then I’ll buy that dip because I actually believe in the company story a little bit. That’s how I’m gonna play it at least. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>18922655
Ol' Musky getting high enough for some tweets?

>>18922679
Hes going on joe Rogan tomorrow

>>18922339
kek capped

>>18922679
about to drop some tweets to dump.
Came on last week and last night.
Tldr, >>18922148

slowly bringing the vibe around.

>>18922463
You just need to dust off the SPCE playbook, my friend. They mooned and they can’t even reach low earth orbit.

Bobos are so stupid

>>18922459
barely
though my city, Seattle, got off its ass and did something. hosts are limited to only renting 2 airbnbs at a time. basically a push against this city's fucking awful landlords.
though, it being Seattle, i doubt these laws are enforced. the city has a lot of progressive rules that arent in effect. nominally it has some of the best laws for renters in the nation, and yet my landlord disappears for months at a time with no consequences.
theres nothing more infuriating than a boomer landlord who genuinely believes his apartments are "passive income." ignoring mold, broken plumbing, that sort of thing. when i was moving, i needed to sublease for the last 3 months of lease. and to sublease, your landlord has to sign off on it. i spent 3 months attempting to get in touch with my landlord. he ignored emails, texts, and phonecalls for 3 months. when i finally got in touch with him, he was pissy that i was bothering him.
i guarantee he bitched to his wife about how, "these entitled millenials think I have nothing to do all day"
thankfully now hes being absolutely ruined by corona kek. less than half the building is paying rent, and Seattle's eviction freeze is stretching welll into the summer

stocks never go down

>>18922677
I will definately reload on a decent dip as well. I just saw a chance at a decent return quick and overcommited a bit. Curious to see where it stands Friday. Seems like every other day it pops. I decided to dump 60 at 33. At least i can make the money back i lost trying to short oil and the s&p Monday.

>>18922744
Checked and based

>>18922777

>>18922339
Beautiful.

>>18922744
>>18922777
Digits and trips.

Bobos will never recover.

anon who posts the knife loli all the time. I found yuru camp blankie version.

>>18922606
me too. I don't think we've been bear trapped but who knows. I'm pretty curious to see what happens even if I have no stake in the outcome at the moment.

I am tempted to go all in spy puts

>>18922777
Your digits don’t matter anymore kike

EURN just fuckin teleported

>insomnia
>go through netflix
>nothing but gigatons of actual trash
How did NFLX become the AMZN of streaming video? How the fuck do people think this is worth 191 billion dollars?

I sold all my gay ass tankers and put them into TQQQ

>ahhh that first SIP in the morning

Feels so good man, where my /coffeegang/ at?

Am I brainlet for not knowing how people search for new companies to invest in and just cycle between the same 20 or so as they stop and start being profitable.
Its working but i feel like Im doing something wrong even if it generates a bit of profit

>>18922339
>Croupier takes ball and puts it into a green field
i lost it here, it must sucks to be a bobo

>>18922900
you're doing better than 80% of the people here so its fine

>>18922900
If you beat just doing the exact same thing with SPY you are better than like 95% of day or swing traders.

I’m all in on USO. Am I going to get raped

>TVIX rises hard and then drops hard after hours because the kikes in control can't BEAR to see one 1 red day
fuck the futures
crash this fucking market with no survivors

>>18922849
Stocks only go up

>>18922973
Probably.

>>18923002
I don’t like your attitude

>>18922744
Bull run confirmed.

>>18922973
USO exists to rape retail. It should be delisted until august.

Is selling puts a good way to buy stocks?

>>18923069
Sometimes.
It's usually so far from my target price that I'd only get $5 of premium for tying up $1000's, so I don't bother with it and do put-spreads instead.

That way I collect theta unless the market actually dips into my buy area. If that happens, I lose money, but my buy orders trigger so I get to own what I want at a decent price, if I forget about the money I lost on the spread.

Now that I'm writing this out, I think it's a bad strategy.

>>18921961
>gapped up

market is becoming predictable, hope you bought the dip

>>18922777
>>18922849
>>18922999
hoooooooly fuck

>>18922999
Get fucked juden

Buy RTX pre-market while it's still low.

>>18922339
keke very creative my man,
and I like that anine gorl pic

>>18922777
>>18922999
BASED GRIM

Seething pollack homosexuals are forever coping. To never grow, never learn, never live: such is the life of /pol/.

>>18922894
coffee lad! I'm about to go to bed.

>>18923111
Gapped up yesterday and closed red.

>>18923214
Your world is not yours anymore juden

Morning bros

Morning coffee and a position in lean hogs is all you really need in life desu

>>18923261
Doesn’t matter, profits will be taken, I bought Tuesday’s dip and sold Yesterday too

>>18923243
kys

>>18923214
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
Why are you so obsessed? This is /biz/

>>18923290
It is just proof of how bad this market is getting. I'm seeing what mania looks like in a market bubble for the first time.

OH FUUUCKK!!!

I THINK TOMORROW IS A SOXL DAYTRADE DAYY!!!!!

Or maybe just buy Marvell, Qualcomm, Skyworks, and even something china heavy like

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/us-drafts-rule-to-allow-huawei-work-with-us-firms-on-5g-standards-reuters.html


>>18923243
kek alright me too, he does usually show up when 'I've been up too late

On that note, good night.

>>18923314
He’s constantly fantasizing about goose-stepping Nazis raping him

>Oh no!
>Don’t rape me!

So the Chinese were expected to have a 15% decrease in exports but now are reporting a 3.7% increase.

Does anyone actually believe these numbers? Perhaps they're including COVID as an export. China needs to be excised from the world.

>>18923335
Honestly wouldn't doubt it. When a guy posts women as reaction images constantly, you begin to wonder.

>>18923331
Ahh yes, this is the punishment for the chinese virus I have heard so much about

>>18923339

>does anyone believe these numbers?

I don’t believe a fucking word out of China’s mouth. They are used to getting away with the most ridiculous lies and deception. Their problem is, the entire world is furious at them.

China is about to come down with a bad case of rape

Who’s in NIO

>>18923351
It’s the House. Pelosi is in charge there. She’s as anti American as you can get

>>18923339
Why not? Put your tinfoil hut down.

>>18922903
PUT IT DOWN JEROME, PUT IT DOWN

>>18923339
>expected to have a 15% decrease in exports but now are reporting a 3.7% increase.
this is normal for statistics and data self reported by china. they defy all nationale and precedent.

>>18923380
>2.870,38 +36,88 +1,30%

>+1,30%
+1,30%
>+1,30%
+1,30%

Get rekt.

>>18923375
>Are you accusing China of lying?
>You must be a conspiracy theorist.
>Clearly you need to watch more CNN and Fox

I’m not a faggot. I’m also not retarded. China is garbage country who spread a virus across the globe purposefully.

>>18922010
I still can't believe my testla put got wiped out... the guy is a fucking mong. A DOWNRIGHT MONG :'(

>>18923333
unstoppable

>>18923368
im deep into lithium ion but fuck that china hustle trash

I am feeling it now Mr. Krabs...
I can feel the crab pinch...

>>18922744
>>18922999
>>18923333
Digits into trips into quads

GG bears.

At the start all the hentai was hot but not its just making me feel kinda sick, 2d is all i've got left please don't ruin it with all the suggestive anime pictures.

My Vanguard index fund account is about to break even (I invested $23,000 in total, and the portfolio value is now $22,800).

This is good right?

>PTON shortsqueeze yes or no?
+
>up on earnings
>short interest 40%
>already up quite a bit
-
>2.5 days to cover
>potential covering before er(see run up on chart)
Anatomy of a event induced short squeeze:
See RAD, APRN, LCI
Gap up => green or crab(probably until margin calls kick in) => surge.
Thoughts?

>>18923484

Staring up the skirt of a cartoon girl is somehow making your life worse? Please fuck off you dumb nigger.

Can TUI AG make it bros?
I think they are dying over dur.

Hope today isn't like yesterday. Market was up by 200pts and my stocks were only up by 1%, then by the end of the day the market was at -200 and yet my stocks were down by 5%. How the fuck does that work.

>>18923513
no,

can someone please explain why NBLX is crabbing and not mooning? what is influencing this stocks performance, is it mainly dependent on how futures perform? is it because of earnings?

>>18922777
>>18923333
>>18922999
OMG

Invest invest! Bull run 2020

puts on SHOPIFY ?

>>18923333
God damnit grim.

>>18923588
Isn't it basically Canadian Amazon at this point?

>>18923540
Not every stock is included in DOW or whatever shit index are you looking at.

>>18923605
p/e 1400 ?? overpriced big time, or maybe im a dinosaur for looking at this indicator

>>18922999
Digits dont lie.
GOING ALL IN THE STONK MARKET NOW

>>18923069
No, you buy stocks directly like a reasonable investor and be done with it.

>>18923605
Shopify is more like an evolution of Paypal than Amazon. Their main thing is to offer online storefront systems for small and medium sized retailers that don't have the resources to program out their own custom back end for that. So when you order something online from a smaller retailer chances are you hit the Shopify system on checkout.

Finally RDSb does something other than go down

>>18923616
>maybe im a dinosaur for looking at this indicator
You're not but timing the drop on these hype stocks is hard. It gets extra sketchy if you're doing it with puts on a relatively tight time window.

why are futures green?

>>18923703
mostly 1-2 weeks out, in all fairness i dont think that shit is worth anywhere close 750 bucks

>>18923708
BECAUSE THE KIKES CAN'T STAND 1 BAD DAY
MUST PRINT MORE MONEY

>>18923708
Because 100k americans will have died by the end of the month

>>18923708
To give us a small glimmer of hope before it tanks at close

>>18923734
thats so bullish

>>18923488
Yes, I broke even yesterday. Over a year after investing

>>18921961
Invested 500k in Boeing last week. Government will never allow Boeing to go bankrupt, it's 100% safe investment. Already returned 200% in profits from Fed money print. I love this economy.

>>18923743
Do you have any idea how much a 10,000 portfolio would grow if market goes back to pre-corona by the end of the year?

I will never stop kicking myself over getting JBLU. It isn't even a lot. It just went against my entire system to do it. Because its literally the only airline I think has actually innovated past 1990s business class travel. I could sell at a loss but damnit it was stupid
>>18923673
I'll take your word on it.

Bear COPE is unbearable. I feel sorry for you all

>>18923698
dude why in the fucking world would you invest in shell? they cut their dividends and it's looking grim for them. put your money in xom or cvx atleast

>>18923488
shouldve just dumped it all into spy

>>18923785
It mostly is..

>>18923784
DIS cut divvies and reported terrible earnings and they're up
only makes sense in this fucking market
nothing matters

>>18921961
what the fuck why are futures up 1.3%? the fuck is going on i litearlly bought up SDOW and SPXS end of day for the dump and now we are pumping? is the market just going to continually climb and keep buying overpriced overvalued stocks forever? when the fuck is this bubble popping?

>>18923756
>500k
So 5?

>>18923708
Sell off was manipulated as fuck yesterday.

>>18923756
Boeing is safe. Its bondholders are safe. Equity holders are definitely not safe.

Why is NIO pumping again? Should I get June calls?

OIL IS SURGING AGAIN AAAA

>>18923800
>litearlly bought up SDOW and SPXS end of day for the dump
So you shorted the bottom? Bravo.

>>18923800
Why would anything be overpriced or even overvalued? We are far off from previous highs and the economy is already back to normal or even better.

Check out new China numbers retard.

>>18923826
Source?

>>18923800
I am bearish on literally everything except the market and gold. Inflation is getting dumped into the market and itll drag gold with it again

>>18923618
>digits don’t lie
Funny how you stock market bulls are starting to act a lot like chainlink holders with your delusions

>RTXcucks
lmao

When did you realize nuclear warfare is basically priced in?

>>18923738
You mean when it dumps at open

>>18923879
what the fuck, can't you look at the charts?

>>18923855
DEATH TO ISRAEL YOU GOD DAMNED SATANIC KIKES

>sold all of the stocks before the dump around SPX $2900
>didn't re-buy after yesterday's crash

I feel strange. I earned money and I don't want to re-buy, but there's a possibility of me seeing big green dildo today without any means to profit from it.

FUCK I hope we bounce of $2900 again

>>18922894
right here
*sips*

>>18923831
>>18923855
>>18923887
literally even normies CEOs on bloomberg markets and the anchors are starting to pick up on the fact everything is overvalued and overbought there is definitely a big correction coming

>>18923930
Listen jack, you’re gonna lose a lot of money.

>>18923930
Don't look at the meme indices like the Zoomdaq or the Boeing Jones. The Russell is still very much in the trashcan. You have your correction right there.

>>18923930
Those are bullish flags

>>18923950
how did you make that much moniez? teach me senpai

>>18923950
BASED

>>18923930
Whoever the fuck a normie CEOs are...

...when the mass thinks something is overvalued or even overbought...then the opposite is true.

And once again, the meme virus was a nothing burger and we are going straight back to ATH, where the stock markets belongs too.

>>18923333
Nobody cares about your trip script you god damned kike

Das Bull

>>18924030
Whether it was over blown or not, it was still a giant pause hit on everyone's lives. This isn't a fucking video game you fucking idiot . These things have second and third order effects .

>>18923950
Listen kike your bloodlines are going to lose their lives

>>18924054

No they don't. Government stimulus and V shaped recovery, as shown by the markets. Shit will be back to normal in a month.

BUY THE CONSUMER MARKET

>>18924054
The market does not look ahead or behind at the economy. It inflates from QE. It isn't just. It certainly isn't good. But it outperforms all other assets.
And like I said, stop looking at Tech and everything is still very much in a dumpster compared to where it was.

>>18923980
Everyone on biz said to buy SHOP puts before earnings, so I bought calls, simple as.
>>18924056
>pol immigrants hemorrhaging money
you have to go back

>>18922988
Fuck these overnight fake pumps that get sold off everyday.

Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy Wells Fargo when they tank again thanks to no one buying houses? Are they actually legitimately in danger of going out of business or does free Fed money make that literally impossible?

>>18924156
The US will fall before any of the big banks are allowed to.

aaaaaaa

>>18922988
I hate it as well. We're seeing abnormal levels of greed to the point of purposefully manipulating the market to elongate a dead cat bounce.

>>18924107
You kikes are DONE

>>18923950
I've recently noticed but I haven't tried it yet, buying the dip then selling at open gap up. Rinse repeat.

>someone please fucking buy this gap up. see? everything is fine please don't sell
next day
>someone please fucking buy this gap up. See? Everything is fine please don't sell
repeat

What are some good cheap non-tech stocks to invest to take advantage of their inevitable U shaped recovery?

>>18924173
Well they are taking their time the bank stocks are approaching their march lows again.

>>18924198
I'm 100% /pol/ but you're just being a cringe machine. Or you're just an autistic person pretending to be a /pol/ack to give us a bad name.

>>18924210
I’ve been doing that the past week, but this pattern won’t keep forever. If anything onions looks like an inverse H&M’s with neck at 288

>>18924180
bulltrap

>keep forcing the market up despite literal Great Depression-tier economic data
>suddenly the market gives way and we drop another 50%
>WHAA?? How could this have happened? My 401K! My portfolio! Whaaaaa????

>>18924243
>onions
kek I typod spy

>>18923950
>>18923972
>>18923964
then why are all companies doing massive layoffs? how is that bullish? not temporary furloughs for the virus either, actual layoffs

>>18924220
USFD
U-Recovery or V or whatever letters you want means a USFD shaped recovery of the same letter.

>>18924156
I don't think so. I'd diversify into a few though. I'm buying Bank America and JP Morgan slowly.

>>18924249
Its all bullish

>>18924249
You wish, Bearcuck

>>18924255
Nobody can stop the American Tailwind(TM)

>bounce off $2880

>>18923213
Why?
Are the earnings going to be good?

>>18924255
Can you take exactly 3 minutes and look at the Russell already? Tech is pulling the SPY, DOW, and even the NASDAQ kicking and screaming from the doldrums that is the 99% of the market that isn't specifically tied to these indices.

>>18924269
>oil goes negative for the first time ever
>most news outlets have graphs at .01 because they weren't programmed to go negative
>huge sell off begins
>GAP UP
>GAP UP
>GAP UP
>"oil stabilizes...."

We're putting patches on a sinking ship.

>>18924253
any other interesting earnings coming out this week

>>18924255
>companies doing massive layoffs
Because they can save money and their employees will still benefit from the stimulus packs. Since the stimulus became a thing, unemployment became priced in.

>>18924294
>uint
Who the fuck?

>>18924277
If the earnings are good the stock goes down
Only when the earnings are bad that the stock goes up

>>18924269
You greedy kike bulls deserve financial ruin

>>18923213
It'll be lower after earnings
>>18924277
No. The merger gave them exposure to the toxic load that is American commericial aerospace and Boeing

why does the market go up when the underlying economic data is just crushingly bad?

>>18923375
>Why not? Put your tinfoil hut down.
My dad works at the post office central for my country.
Every box that is shipped to the country passes through his station.
He literally been leaving early every day and tells me no boxes from China since March.

Chinks ain't shipping shit.
They are accounting COVID stuff sold to governments for sure.

>>18924294
Go outside. The traffic is picking up, states and other countries are starting to open up some. Oil and gas demand will begin to rise again.

>>18924306
Greedy, how so? Stock market deserves a higher valuation and bears are just doomsday jerking around.

>>18924322
Just because people work at hedge funds doesn't make them smart. Imagine what the peak of an economic bubble looks like in terms of delusion and denial. That is basically them right now.

>>18924322
bad news = goes up
good news = we crash

>>18924290
tech is the ones slowing down and having a reality check

https://www.kron4.com/video/san-francisco-based-tech-companies-announce-layoffs-due-to-pandemic/

>>18924328
>we're opening up
>in reality we are opening in up in long phases
>many businesses outright going to go bankrupt
>Amazon stated they expect ZERO profit Q2 in their earnings call

>>18924328
He's an idiot but even the most bull of oil bulls do not forsee oil prices really recovering until Q3 and going over 40 again in Q4.

>>18924324
>post office
Yeah your dad will for sure find cargos their.

Yeah your dad will for sure find insane amounts of medical equipment / ressources their.

Yeah your dad will for sure find insane amounts of goods for online shops and delievery their.

By the way...my dad was at launch with jerome yesterday and guess what. Printers going to run twice the pace now.

give me a bankruptcy worthy of Lehman Brothers level and I will dump it

>>18924332
>Just because people work at hedge funds doesn't make them smart
The squeeze metric guy always says that some hedge fund people are incredibly stupid ranging from not knowing delta hedging to other market micro structure related things. Sometimes I wonder..

>my PYPL calls are printing

>>18924356
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/egyptian-billionaire-naguib-sawiris-oil-prices-and-airlines.html

Yeah I don't know about that.

>>18924322
Why do you think retard? There was no reason for our economy to tank it never should have been shut down in the first place

>>18924376
Pls don't waste the money on hormones again

>>18924390

IAG IS FREE FALLING BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WILL TAKE 3 YEARS TO REACH 2019 PROFITS. I'm going to buy as many shares as I can afford when it bottoms out.
https://youtu.be/1lWJXDG2i0A

>>18924298
You missed all the big ones this week. I’m bullish on roku. could potentially see a short squeeze on uber and peloton. Stamps might have a huge move, no idea which direction not gonna play it.

>>18924369
Most people are total retards with the market. The headlines are really funny because you start to learn that the news have 0 idea what the market is doing and why and try to retroactively attach logic to it.

As soon as there's a large plunge for 1 day, they go doomsday mode.

>>18924305
That is why I'm going to buy after the earnings.

>>18924308
>The merger gave them exposure to the toxic load that is American commericial aerospace and Boeing

The merger gave them Pratt-Whitney. One of the leading plane engine manufacturers.
It gives them all they need to start developing full size flying drones.

They dropped Carrier and Otis from the merge. Asset that will be super toxic in the incoming years due to their exposure to the real estate market.

>tfw test in 30 mins
>it's online, open notes, open book, etc.
>it's 5 questions
>time limit is 4 hours
I don't know if I should be afraid or not.

>>18923950

can you say when you bought these? and how much they were when you bought them? im still strugglig to time how far out to buy the expiration dates vs the premium cost. how do you pick the best bang for buck

>>18924180
>>18924248
21.05. is oilageddon again.

>Decide to actually learn fundamentals
>Start realizing so many businesses make no sense, they'll never be able to obtain profitability or pay back their investors in a reasonable time frame
What the actual fuck.

>>18924408
you want to tie up your money for three years?
theres better gains to be had. also airlines are a meme that won't get back to those levels without share buy back

>>18924429
sounds like they expect a lot of writing like essay style questions

>>18924441
explain

>>18924441
Thank the fed for this.
Market doesn't correct it either. I guess it works something like this.
>Assumption: The current price is fair
>good event: buy
>bad event: sell
It's dumb heuristic algos.
Of course a company preferably tries to release good news. But what do I know... I'm just a dumbfuck...

>>18924441
Wait until you find one that does and their price never moves because nobody else buys them. Lots of great value traps out there

>>18924446
Airplanes are the most efficient way to travel, it isnt going anywhere long term

Thursday at 0830 is jobless claims again? what are we expecting this morning, greater than expected or less, and pump or dump? for me, its less than expected but either way we pump.

>>18924477

we pump either way

at least i took a chance

>>18924477
Yesterday's morning crash was pretty interesting. It shows there's a lot of unwilling passengers in this crazy train.

>>18924477
Who cares they arent real numbers since the government is forcing people to lose their jobs

>>18924446
I'm okay tying some money up, maybe £500 for 3 years if I'm going to make 400% + profit at the end of it.

>>18924379
That is part of the thesis yes. Oil crush to fall followed by a surge in prices because a lot of wells are effectively being closed permanently right now. That is currently the hope of the US oil industry itself.
>>18924441
FA investors left in March. They still aren't back and shouldn't be for awhile. If you are fine with leaving your account alone for months to year you can start DCAing into things with solid fundamentals. It won't be flashy. And you are still usually better off just sitting on an index ETF.
>>18924421
Sure, that's the future. Boeing not getting new orders and then not making planes for a long time is going to sting them for this earnings call.

>>18924474
like what? microsoft?

>>18924249
we are fucking mooning over here.
GTFO with this doomsday prophesy. Fundamental economic health is boomer shit. We P/E ratio 100 now.

Can a professor catch me if I post a question to Chegg?

>>18924499
Wait till they bottom. I bough ac shares for 70 cents in 2011 and sold for 55 dollars in 2019

>>18924475
the most efficient way to travel is to not travel, i used to fly 12 times a year for business that's not gunna happen even three years from now, companies realise they can save huge cash by having meetings over ms teams

Press F to pay respects.

>>18924465
We've got to much free money floating around, they're hundreds of billion dollar companies dependent on continual never ending stream of cash injections from investors, it doesn't matter what they do they'll literally never be profitable because operating costs scale with user growth.

>>18924494
real or fake they can directly influence the market, a huge "beat" (as if this was earnings lol) means pump time, its worth talking about. Also whatever the results are gets blasted to the normies via the talking heads on the news first thing in the morning, and id like to hear peoples guesses.

We will never, ever go below 2850 again

>>18924537
Nice.

>>18924545
so it's a ponzi scheme relying on forever growth to pay back earlier investors and this entices new investors?

>>18924545
I call it UBERification

>>18924542
Just stop international travelling isnt going anywhere its what fuels the economy.

fshhhhhh

>>18924601

>>18924441
Learn TA, anyone who says don't can't eat shit. Pick stocks with FA and decide with TA if you'll benefit from it, assuming you're trading, if you're boomer investing just fucking buy the dips and hold, you'll be good in couple of years.

>>18924616
One of the best memes I have seen this week.

>>18924616
jej

>Continuous massive linear trend in futures.
>Repeated every night like clockwork.
>Standard market behavior.
>Correcting markets to normal.
I don't know if the fuckers spouting this bullshit looked at futures prior to February, but this is highly unusual behavior on unusually low volume.

Threadly reminder: stop losses are your friends. If the trade goes against you and hits the stop don't let it get you down. If you believe in the setup that stop loss just saved you money you can put back in now at an even better price. Without the stop loss you would just be that much further down thus making less when the trade does work out.

>>18924641
It's a rare one. Some anon made a thread with bubblegum apu telling /biz/ he was board and to tell him a joke.

Then another anon made the bear with the bat picture just for the thread (I think) as a response. Remember when rare pepes were a thing? What was that, like 5 years ago?

>>18924556
What about all the people making more staying home from trumpbux then they would have staying at their jobs?

>>18924542
Business travel isn't a majority, most people fly for pleasure. Besides, most business travel will continue because if it wasn't necessary they probably would have stopped doing it a while ago.

>>18924651
Psssst. This is called big boys cashing out at close and retards buying at day.

BUT BULLISH FOR NOW!!!

>>18924655
I like hehesilly's comics. They're cute but in a way that has a feminine touch to it which is really nice.

>>18924655
Stop loss literally lost me money yesterday. How long should I be setting them exactly?

>>18924556
>a huge "beat"
then why didnt GM pump after beating expecations by double yesterday?

>>18924542
>the most efficient way to travel is to not travel
Ask North Korea how well that's worked for them

>>18924564
Kinda, the earliest investors already cashed out at IPO, the people who brought at IPO are stuck, the people who brought after the stock sank are dependent on the company being purchased at a large premium by Google/Microsoft/etc.

>>18924694
Can you give example companies in which this is the case?

>>18924665
soon the neetbux end and they have to go back to work

>07.05.2020
>still not rich
What is life?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5DWUu-MlE

CAN A PROFESSOR CATCH YOU IF YOU USE CHEGG?!?!??

*shit pants*

NIO is about to rocket, anyone paying attention?

>>18924687
Because the game was rigged from the start. Which is why I'm saying a beat we super bump and a "miss" we still pump but not as much.

Tankers are kill for the moment.

>>18924410
did u see my question anon>>18924436

plz answer i need help figuring out how far out to buy calls and puts, i dont understand what analysis im supposed to use to figure out best cost/reward ratio.
the farther out they are the more premium is so less profit. the closer in they are the cheaper they are. i dont know how to find the sweet spot in the middle

RTX CHADS RISE UP.
($58 for 100 shares cost basis here btw)

>>18924717
The way I see it most people are on payed vacation. Besides a few industries like airlines and cruise ships that will have permanent lay offs I imagine

I am ruined.

>>18924656

>>18924713
A company that went through the entire process: Zappos, they were fuelled by debt from Wells Fargo, 2nd wave were insistent they IPO so they could cash out, Wells Fargo then forced them to sell themselves to Amazon, despite having over 2 billion dollars in revenue they never made a profit, a lot of people lost a lot of money.

Keep an eye on Kickstarter if you want to see this happen in real time, a billion in revenue 0 profits, VC money has begun drying up for them, it'll probably be purchased by Microsoft who have begun expanding into this field with Github.

>>18924789
We haven't even opened yet
Wait til the REAL dump hits

>>18924766
Convince me to buy rtx.

>buy RTX at the top
>also miss the last dip
Am I cursed

>>18924835
greenday today

>>18924742
Doubt it.
I sold after they dropped from 3.90 back to 3.20, it triggered my SL at 3.25

It's an ADR. Articles bash them every now and then. I lost faith. May get to 4 or 5$, but it isn't "Tesla in the beginning"

>>18924713
>>18924830
Also another company to observe: Spotify, they've already IPO'd and early investors cashed out.

>>18924844
Fuck you
Today is blood red

RTX

>>18924885
futures are green
just like ur ID

>>18924835
>>18924885
And how many times have you predicted the REAL dump since March 24th? We're crabbing and gradually inflating.

>>18924835
>>18924885

PLEASE MOMMY NOOOOO

I SOLD ON TOP AND DIDN'T BUY THE DIP YET

>>18924906
>>18924905
>>18924910
BLOOD RED I SAY

>>18924886
>>18924766
YEEEE

>>18924920
Show us your retarded SPY puts.

Wow these charts look awefully similar

When will this fucking sharemarket DIEEEEEE FUCK ME

>>18924946
They literally look nothing alike.

>>18924946
beginning of phase 2 ?
so it is going up

>>18924946
Lmao keep dreaming

>>18924946
If you're not pumped for the bull trap then get the fuck out.

>>18924788
>The US government is forecasting that unemployment will remain between 10% and 15% for the remainder of the year.
>The US government is forecasting that GDP contraction will last throughout the next two years, gradually improving, with this coming quarter being the largest GDP contraction on record since the Great Depression.
>7% of mortgage holders have asked for forbearance on their loans as of the end of April.
>Online lenders are reporting 12% loan impairment, 7.5% for those with FICO scores above 740 and 20% for those with FICO scores below 650, as of early April.
>In the first wave of SBA lending, JP Morgan business banking had 300,000+ small business applicants, of which only 26,500 were funded, roughly 9%. The $300BB in funding was used in the first week, requiring additional Congressional funding approval.
This is going to be an extremely costly paid vacation.

>>18924946

If you'd say the crash started mid-feb then we are 11 weeks in, so it matches up slightly before the peak at the end of phase 2.

>>18924367
airlines and oil
banks will follow

>>18924955
>>18924955

Look at the ytd on the Dow Jones .. we just finished phase 2

>>18924788
>The way I see it most people are on payed vacation.
kek, you're too pure for this world, anon

>>18924959
Actually no .. we are towards the end of phase 2. Unless the chinese literally buy the entire nysm this is going down

>>18925010
>>18925022
Theories like that always have 3 phases because counting to 3 is easy :D

>>18925010
>please look at my tea leaves

>>18925004
Bear market actually started last year .. the real red is a catylist away from forming

>My RTX is up

You didn't buy at the top, did you, anon?

>>18925022
>it's going down unless something happens
I like how you build an escape for you into your theory..

>>18925058
>>18925058
>>18925058
>>18925058
new

>>18925022
who would have thought that it is going down unless someone is buying

>>18925056

I said that unless china goes balls deep into the market that is the only way to keep it propped up but how many chinese have you seen buying and moving into your neighborehood? NONE because instead of investing here they are buying up Canada.

Us stock market is on life support

>>18925087
>how many chinese have you seen buying and moving into your neighborehood?

Im from europe so... ALOT bro.. ALOT