/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>19493840
It not actually a bubble though, it organic growth cause people saw rioters outside their fucking home...

>>19493840
>black hands holding a glock
Pretty good fear mongering to drive prices honestly

>>19495278
Looks like a S&W shield to me.

Also, wish I would have invested in ammo companies back when Trump first got in.

If you bought 9mm in January before coronavirus you could have made a 50% profit by now. Think about that the next time someone tells you that stocking up on useful goods (aka prepping) is for schizos.

>>19496506
right?

>>19495409
That cut in the front of the slide is a give away it is a larger M&P model.

>>19497091
Anybody telling you to buy buttcoin in lieu of bullets is a retard. A 50% rally in buttcoin is speculation, a 50% rally in bullets is inevitable. Instead of trying to do something really smart, try not to do anything too stupid.

>>19497158
Couldn't they just up ammo production though?

>>19497200
Ammo production plants are at 100% trying to catch up with demand. The past decade has either been the govt buying up huge amounts of ammo and tying up production in the process or the public panicking and cleaning out the commercial stock. In short, it has been a great time to own an ammunition business.

>Even when your walls are lined with ammo, you still don't feel like you have enough.

>>19497314
Interesting, thanks anon

>>19493840
are guns stores totally cleaned our right now?

I was gonna go buy something tomorrow. the cultural enrichment is getting closer and closer to my neighborhood

>>19497314
Wise man.

>>19498028
>I was gonna go buy something tomorrow. the cultural enrichment is getting closer and closer to my neighborhood

You should have stocked up when the protesting happened after Trump's election, then you should have stocked up after COVID-19 happened, but now it's probably too late.

I literally had rioters burning shit across the street from my house on Sunday. Thankfully I started buying guns and ammo years ago and could laugh to myself about the retards who suggested I was a weirdo for wanting to have the tools to defend myself. Imagine thinking that your safety is someone else's responsibility.

>>19498257
The libshit states were pisses because the number of first time gun owners multiplied tenfold since the holocoof started, this will just accelerate that even further

>>19499119
Living in California, it’s always funny when a happening happens to hear the normies be shocked when they learn how onerous it is to buy guns and ammo here.

>>19496506
imagine caring about 50% profits over 4 months when you can make triple like me on crypto in 2 days

>>19499540
>wutdoumean i gotta wait 10 days?
>wutdoumean i gotta get a background check for every ammo purchase?
>wutdoumean the doj is 2 weeks behind on processing background checks?
>wutdoumean I can't have ammo or guns shipped to me or buy them online
>wutdoumean that sick pistol I saw on youtube and wanted to buy isn't in the california doj approved guns list and are not legal?
>wutdoumean I gotta interview for a ccw and have to have cause and suck the sheriff's cock in order to maybe get one?
These are just a few of the wtf moments fucking gun hating faggots ask when they change their minds due to chimpouts and decide to buy a gun. Turns out those evil rednecks were right all along

>>19493840
I'm probably going to invest. With the election looming between Trump and Biden people will be stockpiling. If Trump wins the gun industry stocks are gonna go through the roof.

>>19493840
Its not a "bubble" its actually growing. The more civil unrest, the more uncertainty, the more fear, and the closer to war the more guns sell. You think this fear will just go away? With corona second wave coming up and continued clashes with China? This is the new floor for gun stocks. GET THE FUCK IN!

>>19495278
>>19495409
>>19497158
It literally says SMITH & WESSON on the gun.

>>19500419
>If Trump wins the gun industry stocks are gonna go through the roof.

I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure gun sales go up when there's dem presidents, because people are panic buying due to thinking additional gun restrictions will be put in place. Trump's not interested in taking guns away from people.

>>19497314

What are some ticker symbols to check? Looking at Vista Outdoor right now but don't know any other ammo makers

>>19500419
Id wager the opposite, fear of a democrat president drives up gun sales as people worry they wont be able to buy

>>19500408
Don't forget the firearm safety certificate.

In the past few days I've kind of had second thoughts about hating some of the CA regulations for buying guns though honestly, because they might just be keeping guns out of the hands of people who are too poor or stupid to navigate through the convoluted morass of buying a gun here. Hope the ammo purchasing things gets defeated in court though; miss being able to mail order ammo.

>>19501014

there could be a surge in buying pre-election out of worry that a democratic victory could throw the country into massive turmoil tho.

>>19494561
Most of the people buying now have never been to a firing range before and likely wont maintain their demand into the future nor purchase maintenance accessories. It's a bubble that'll crash pretty badly after the elections.

>>19501083
Mail order ammo is the shit. Sorry for your loss.

>>19493840
The one thing about gun companies is that few are publicly traded. You have some shitty ammo companies like POWW that are but the majority of the good stuff comes from overseas plants. Defense stocks are a better buy for Americans.
The one caveat is that although it's not great for gains is OLN which is the parent company for Speer, Winchester, CCI, and lots of handloading components so for reloaders I think it's a cool stock to hold.

>>19493840
What I don't get is this. I live in a western European country, and own a few guns. Once I have these guns, and enough ammo, why would I need 10 more guns? This is what always perplexes me about Americans. How many guns do you really need?

>>19501423
Yeah it was great. Had an ammo subscription service run by a husband and wife out of Idaho that I got ammo from regularly. Thankfully still have enough to get through current shortages since I haven't been to a range in 2 1/2 years.

>>19501536
These are new buyers and people buying extra for family

>>19501536
>How many guns do you really need?

Pistol and/or shotgun for home defense. Normal rifle for outside conflicts. Break-down rifle for bugging out. Something like a .308 or 30-06 for longer range stuff. That's five right there, not to mention if things get really bad you'd want enough to supply your family and friends and who could assist you.

I could pose the same question to you, but instead of guns I could ask you about money. Why do you need more money than what it takes to pay for your housing, food, and clothing?

>>19501713
Right! So I, for example, own an AR-15, a .357 revolver, a Ruger Scout rifle, and a H&K USP compact 40
WHY would I need anything else? And many Americans definitely own more guns than I do.

>>19501592
Really?

>>19501055
swbi is another great ones

>>19501785
>WHY would I need anything else?

Some people also just like having different guns because it's fun. Personally, I find them to be fun because I can do mechanical work but on a smaller and less expensive level than tinkering around with cars. There was also rioting and looting happening on the opposite side of my street this past weekend, so I view them as being pretty valuable from a practical standpoint.

>>19501965
Of course they are valuable. They are your only defence against another man with a gun. Or the man with a jail and a gun (gov). And of course it is a hobby as well. But my question remains... why are gun sales in the US always all time highing when there is news of any problems whatsoever? I guess I'm kinda envious. My company makes special gun parts for certain weapons. And we can only dream of US sales.

>>19493840
smith and wesson sucks. buy a glock like a real man.

In Europe, gun owners are mostly actual sports shooters. Sure, many people buy a gun for home defence too, but that is it. 1 gun. Also, we have a media fed permanent climate of 'guns are bad' ... and there is nothing I can do to change it.

glocks are so boring looking
buy a sig

>>19502148
you dont really need guns if they're hardly available to the general public. The problem in the US is that all the criminals have guns so it makes no fucking sense to take it away from law abiding citizens.

>>19500480
Don't make fun of blind fags please. Be tolerant.

#PrideMonth

>>19502242
>glocks are so boring looking

Yeah, they're ugly as sin but they're dependable. Only malfunction I've ever had with mine was when a friend went to shoot it and put part of his thumb behind the slide. The reason I bought my G19 was because I'm in California, and the Glock doesn't have one of those stupid fin loaded chamber indicators that are on certain CA compliant guns and I thought it'd be small enough for my GF to use. It's grown on me a lot since then.

>>19502394
>all the criminals have guns
As they do in Europe. It is probably easier to buy an AR illegally than it is to go through the legal process. So thanks for your answer Anon. I was waiting for this. What the EU does is criminalise us all, the whole legal gun owning community! Whilst there are Serbian, Russian, Turkish and so on Mafias simply having anything they want illegally. The problem is: that way, even the last few proud and good gun businesses in Europe will die. As far as small arms goes.

I have this and it's very reliable and compact for any CC purposes. If you're strapped for cash I would recommend a decent compact pistol so you can also use it as a CC. Anything other than that is gravy I think, also make sure to get a ton of carry ammo and training ammo.

>>19502064
Because even though we own the most guns in the world most of us still don't own guns.
It is a minority of Americans that own firearms.
Some small section of the non-gun owning population shifts over whenever a crisis happens

>>19500408

>not being a LEO

I Fucken love having a no waiting period and blacked out license plates. Must suck being a NEET or wagie.

>>19503379
LOL

SWBI was kind of shitty for being so new. It was stagnant and dropped, then I eventually got just $150 out of it.

Threw the money into SSL instead and got better, faster gains.

>>19503379
The US population buys the number of guns owned by the country's entire police force every three months or something too.

>>19503379
good one

>>19500408

>>19503631
That's great.

>>19501083
>defending cuckfornia
gay
>>19502144
>smith and wesson sucks. buy a glock like a real man.
shut up no guns
>>19502560
>you don't need guns as long as only the government is allowed to have them
faggot
>>19503379
>It is a minority of Americans that own firearms.
retard
>>19503415
I bet you refer to non cops as "civilians"

dear lord /biz/ is full of retards no wonder you keep falling for pajeet scams

>>19503545
I don't know if that is true, but I congratulate them. The USA, the last bastion of freedom..... and monkeys.

>>19501785
>no semi 308/7.62
>no semi 12ga
>no pump 12ga
>no takedown rifle
>no magnum cartridge sidearm
The .40 and the "why would I NEEEEED!?!?!?!?!" gave you away as liberal soiboi scum. Grow up, son.

>>19503714
>>19502560 (You)
>you don't need guns as long as only the government is allowed to have them

WTF? I have said anything but! Why misquote me?

>>19503735
my apologies good sir it was meant for this eurocuck >>19502394

>>19503724
lol, if only u knew... I was honest. I own a small arms company, selling extremely precise barrels for rifle sports shooters. How the hell do you think, that just by asking about American gun love, that I was trying to criticise? How paranoid can you be?

>>19503759
Alright.

>>19503775
czech?

>>19503809
Nope. Austrian.

What the store that sells the most guns in the U.S.A?

Is it still WalMart?

>>19503821
Do people see you as Hitler for working in the small arms business?

>>19503826
Nah, Walmart is a very small percentage of all gun sales, I think 5% or below.

>>19503834
lol thankfully no, but when I meet new people and they ask what I do, I get looked at like some sort of disease. this is europe. weapons = bad. the media also neglects really important stories, just to bring a full page, plus foots of the next 'gun freak' who had a few guns and knives at home when they searched it after he did some other illegal shit.

>>19503415
it does suck. I still wouldn't wanna be a cop though fuck that. I'll just do the sensible thing a move to a non cucked state (utah for those curious)

>>19500480
Smith and Wesson M&P

In fact, you gotta imagine this. Meeting my girlfreind's parents was a nightmare. As soon as guns were mentioned I was the bad guy. I kid you not. Europe is like that now.

>>19504087
In what context were guns mentioned ...? Curious

>>19504297
In the contest of 'nice to meet you, and what do you do?*

>>19503631
>$.50 round for 9mm
You could have prevented this, why didn't you listen?

There are gun stocks?

>>19504352
RGR. They will double by end of year. Mark these words. Undervalued because investors consider it to be "unethical" and "antithetical and repugnant to the moral interests of our shareholders". If I had $5000 more to invest, all of it would go to RGR.

>>19503545
Yes, and most of us still dont own guns. Minority doesnt mean 'small', it just means not the majority

>>19503450
>>19503545
>>19503573
>>19503714
I wonder how it feels to be this retarded, are you guys generally happy and in a good mood since you have so little to think or worry about or does your own stupidity create problems for you and prevent peace?

Most people in the US do not own a gun. It is the minority that own guns. This doesn't mean that it's not common, normal, or that gun ownership in the US isn't massive by any metric you want to use, or that the number of gun owners is "small."

>>19504726
The info here I find the most questionable is Hispanics, you can argue about how realistic these numbers are or how they were obtained, but even adding something ridiculous like 20% to the total makes it only about 50/50

>>19501075
Correct.

>>19501126
Nah. Its pure fiction that you need hours at a range to defend your family from Jamal.

Get a 12 gauge pump action Remington Shotgun:

> Accuracy is entirely optional, just get the cone of pellets within an approximate accuracy and you're fine. Spray and pray really works with a combat shotgun.
> Loud as fuck. Neighbors WILL hear it and call for help. If you miss for some unknown reason, Jamal will be scared as fuck
> Low penetration of walls so I case some jogger gets close enough where you accidentally shoot a wall with a friendly occupant (i.e. your gimp) the likelihood of accidental injury or death is very low
> Ammo is cheap as fuck and commonplace
> Shotguns require very little maintenance and cleaning
> Two hands required to operate so you can stock slam a jogger in case you're too pussy to make the world a better place and De-joggerize your neighborhood .


$200 at my local Walmart. $50 for some shells . I'm riot ready boys. Send em over.

>>19504804
>stock slam a jogger

Can you elaborate on this technique?

>>19503415

I'd only want to be an LEO that doesn't have to deal with retarded people all the time. Airport

>>19504804
>Cheap
I always found it the most expensive compared to mainline .223 or 7.62x39 or 9mm

>>19495278
>glock
>literally says smith and wesson on the barrel

>>19504939
>on the barrel
>barrel

>>19493840
Ill sell you a gun. Its only been used for one murder, so its in pretty good condition.

Just kidding. Im not selling.

>>19500358
then you should be a millionaire if you can triple your money at will whenever you feel like it, why are you posting here wasting your time with us?

>>19503826
walmart cucked out of selling guns and ammo with virtue signaling. the retards actually took millions in losses when they announced all handgun and "assault rifle" ammo would be liquidated at fire sale and never be sold by walmart again. they were selling 9mm for like 8 cents a round in december, it was glorious

hi /biz/ me be negro :D No problem. 3 6 9

Smith and Wesson is up 48% this month. Is this the top?

>>19504991
It's a famas retard

>>19504911
Hit him with the stock of the gun, and then movie-Platoon-special-needs-gook-finishing move scene?

Are you slow or something?

>>19504726
U.S population is around 328 million.

Assuming these numbers are even remotely true that is still 109,333,333 gun owners. That is just short of being the entire population of Mexico to give perspective.

>>19493840
Guns are bad investments financially speaking. They’re not terribly difficult or expensive to manufacture and only old relic firearms owned by famous people will sell for anything significant.

But if you’re an American like me you should own a few like an AR-15, 9mm, AK-47 and 12-gauge at least.

>>19506322
>Guns are bad investments financially speaking
If you paid attention in the last few decades, guns and ammo are the only things that I know that faithfully increased in price and NEVER decreased long term. It's one of the best things to invest in.

>>19506389
I’n not a boomer so no I haven’t been buying guns for multiple decades. I’m also skeptical of your claims about gun prices always going up. I know they fluctuate due to political factors and inflation will have an impact but I don’t see guns taking anyone to the moon, ever. Good luck though.

>>19505940
But the viet retarded kid was just dancing, hopping around, not jogging. The jogger would just run around you, and probably outrun you.

I got an AR last year and it's doubled in value already.

>>19506454
Well they won't "moon" and make you rich but prices only go up.

>>19506557
Uh, yeah whatever. Assets depreciate. Where and when you realize those profits ... ? Probably never unless you think the AR will become a collectible

What gun stocks should I buy?

>>19506979
folding ones with the shoulder thing that goes up

>>19496506
Fuck, I admit I was wrong.

>>19493840
> he hasn't been in on gun investments for the past decade

Guns have literally non-stop gone up in price.
Only 111k automatic m16s will ever be transferable to civilians. Do you got one in your family lineage yet?
30-40k USD. Think about it.
If my FUND trade works out i'll probably pick one up.

>remembers when he sold an AK74 for 400 bucks and now they are going for 1000+

>>19501785
>H&K USP compact 40
why a 40 instead of the prolific 45?
I'm going for the 45 when I get a USPc

>>19493840
How recent is this post? Was thinking about selling my gun stock calls for a loss, took a heavy fucking blow today and I feel like I should just get out with like sub-30% of my initial investment.

>>19493840
i live in the netherlands. i care not for guns, but an Asian economy recovery, which is why i'm all in ARPA.

>>19501785
>Need
Some us can afford things we don't need you poverty faggot

>>19502242
Sigs look retarded and they're made by retards

>>19504804
>rustington
lmao

>>19507191
My P320 is sexy af

>>19504804
This anon is fucking retarded and you should not take any part of his post as fact.

>>19503775
Based Lord of War

>>19507215
Stop liking something I don't like

>>19504804
>spray and pray a shotty
>inside your house
No thanks, I don't want to turn my family into swiss cheese

>>19496506
>50%
hahahahahahahha

>>19503415
Or I could just live in an untucked state and do literally anything else with my life.

>>19504726
You are a fucking retard who doesnt understand the methodology behind these studies.
>ring ring
>hello sir can you please tell us if you own a gun for our poll?
>ummm...no i promise I dont
>ok thank you for your honesty
>still get a 30% official number
>retard on 4chan reads article and believes it

Gun ownership is one of the things that is under reported worldwide, and in the US ranging from the redneck militia guy in the appalachias to jamal in the hood who isnt legally allowed to. What a fucking smart anon you are please tell us what you invest in.

>>19493840
Called it
Where is the idiot that said to buy Ruger it is going to moon
When it was already at all time highs even on election years where they go up the most
Ruger makes inexpensive guns preferred by gangbangers just one tier above Taurus

>>19507215
Sig p320 is the ugliest gun I have ever seen

>>19501785
>need
Have you ever heard of gun collecting
Maybe I like having 20+ pistols because I can afford them and I like to have my own private museum of historical weapons

>>19506923
Ar almost never become collectibles
Only exemptions are transferable machine guns
Ak on the other hand have their value sky rocket after a import ban
Like saiga did and Chinese pre bans did

>>19506454
Some guns do moon
But they all have something in common
> a they were expensive guns to begin with
> b are either no longer made or imported
An example is a famas only 200 ever in the USA
No more being imported into the USA
They were expensive even back in the 80s
In 10 years they went from 4K to 12k
8k in profit just from having it in a safe

>>19493840
Go Long on "PCP guns"

They are just as deadly as regular guns plus "Big Gunpowder" hates them. Also unregulated so you can apparently buy lethal firearms on amazon now.

All you Ass holes are going to buy up all the Bulldogs before my paycheck comes in. I fucking hate you all.... never should have shared....

https://www.amazon.com/Benjamin-BPBD3S-Bulldog-Hunting-Rifle/dp/B00T9S3OBQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=.357+pcp&qid=1591019039&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-1

>>19501126
<gun buubble
state of the murricans lol
i guess the amerimutt 70iq meme is not a meme

>>19501126
imagine how blackpilled dems will be when trump gets re-elected. they're literally going to riot even more when that happens.

the only way for the gun 'bubble' to burst is if biden magically wins in november

>>19509357
Its all fun and games masking fun of Americans until someone finds oil in your country anon.

>>19509384
Not even the lefties want to vote for him. Or he wins its 100% fraud.

Here in the UK there are repeating crossbows that can probably be bought in USA without a licence.
Can any American brother confirm?

TOO LATE FOR GUN STOCKS

NOT TOO LATE FOR BOLAWRAP

BOLAWRAP: A GUN THAT SHOOTS HANDCUFFS


IMAGINE IF YOU COULD GET IN ON THE 'TASER' WHEN IT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED. YOU'D BE A TRILLIONNAIRE NOW.

WELL GUESS WHAT? THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET IN ON THE NEXT GREATEST INVENTION. IT'S NONVIOLENT WHICH NORMIE PROTESTORS WILL LOVE AND EXTREMELY PRACTICAL WHICH NORMIE CONSERVATIVES WILL LOVE

DEMONSTRATION VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Mgc84iLvU

THE DEVICE IS OWNED BY WRAP TECHNOLOGIES INCORPORATE. $WRTC ALREADY MOONED 50% IN THE LAST FEW DAYS DUE TO THE RIOTS AND WILL CONTINUE TO MOON %5000 OVER THE NEXT WEEK

MASS RIOTS IN THE WAKE OF VIOLENT POLICE OFFICERS WILL MEAN THIS WILL 100% GET ADOPTED BY EVERY SINGLE POLICE FORCE IN THE WORLD

THE CEO WILL BE ON FOX NEWS TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT HIS INGENIUS DEVICE. HIS INTERVIEW WILL BE SEEN BY THE PRESIDENT AND HE WILL MAKE SURE EVERY COP IN THE COUNTRY HAS ONE OF THESE

EVERY BOOMER WATCHING FOX TONIGHT WILL WANT TO INVEST WHEN THE INTERVIEW AIRS. THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET IN BEFORE THEY DO

>>19506995
lol

>>19509463
That shit has been around for ages.. Tasers and pepperspray are better.. in other words: YOU ARE A MASSIVE FAGGOT.

>>19509574
>Tasers and pepperspray are better
YOU STUPID FUCKING RETARDED CUNT. YOU SHOULD BE BANNED INVESTING FOR LACKING FORESIGHT. TASERS AND PEPPERSPRAY ARE ON FULL BLAST IN THE MEDIA AND HIVEMIND'S EYE AS BEING EXTREMELY VIOLENT

THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH FOR LESS VIOLENT FORMS OF ARREST

WHEN THEY SEE THIS THEY'LL JUMP ON IT LIKE A GRASSHOPPER ON A PILE OF SAND

THIS IS LITERALLY THE SAFEST LEAST LETHAL WAY TO DETAIN SUSPECTS. EVERY KEKED MAYOR WILL WANT EVERY POLICE OFFICER TO OWN ONE OF THESE IN THEIR CITY

ITS LITERALLY CATNIP FOR KEKED GOVT OFFICIALS

WILL PROBABLY BE ADOPTED EVEN IN THE RED STATES

>>19509596
Scream louder faggot. Nothing is going to happen.

>>19509610
#ICANTSNEED

>>19509442
Dude we have full auto Airguns here just as powerful as normal guns and Air powered Elephant guns.

All available on Amazon

Gtfo with ur British Robin hood bow and arrow bullshit.

>>19509442
crossbows arent regulated except most retailers require you to be 18 to buy them probably mostly for virtue signaling and liability reasons. some states have bans on children buying them though

>>19509463
this is actually pretty based i could see it gaining traction for riot control but not day to day policing. its a specialized niche use. no cop is going to risk their life trying to use one on a fleeing suspect they are in felony foot pursuit with since the criminal could turn around and shoot a gun.

>>19496506
I bought 9mm during the Walmart clearance for $0.05 per round and sold it for $0.42 per round to scared city boys

>>19506389
Buy an AR in 2005 and tell me that gun prices always go up