/biz/ - Business & Finance

>http

>>20793506
not clicking that link

>>20793540ok try this one

https://www.ledger.com/addressing-the-july-2020-e-commerce-and-marketing-data-breach

>>20793506
Oh look it's fucking nothing and OP sucks nigger cock as usual.

>>20793506
NO!!!!!!

MY LINKIES!!!!

AHH

This is really fucking bad. They have leaked addresses and names of people who have bought Ledgers. It means anyone can get that information and come to your house with a gun to get your cryptos.

>>20793735
This is not nothing. Everyone who has ever bought a Ledger now has their name and address tied to it, privately now and publically soon.

>>20793803
Only if you bought off their website and most of the people who bought one just filled their bags with worthless shitcoins and have had to sell a kidney to cover their debts by now anyway.

you have to wonder.. if those retarded frogs cannot even properly safeguard their website ... whether your funds are really safe. next do the chance now of niggers showing up at your house to steal your ledger.

This is insanely bad for anyone who has bought a Ledger

Tick tock stinktards hahahah the criminals are coming

better take your ledger to a bank vault hahahah they are coming for you linkies hahah

>>20793779
Lmao imagine living in America hahaha

>>20793779
WTF I HAVE NO FUNZ HERE

Uh wait. Is this why I got this random ass text the other day? Never clicking, not even a little curious.

They are coming for you Chainstinkers and you cannot hide

Oh wait
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHH
I BOUGHT MY LEDGER AND SHIPPED IT TO MY OLD ADDRESS
LAND LORD IS GONNA GET A GUN UP HIS ASS WHILE THE POLLACKS ARE LOOKING FOR NOTHING


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>20793779
>https://www.ledger.com/addressing-the-july-2020-e-commerce-and-marketing-data-breach
>After a thorough investigation by our security team and Orange Cyberdefense, we can conclude the ecommerce and marketing database has been breached. By the time of this posting, all affected customers will have received an email with this update.
If you haven't received an email from ledger after the 21st of July letting you know your data has been taken then it doesn't affect you. If you have you might want to get a gun.

Glad I bought mine from a third party amazon seller now

>>20793561
They are really down playing this breach... it's fucking extremely bad. Best case scenario and your details are getting sold on the dark web. If you own a ledger and live in a rich neighborhood (higher chance of large balance) some amateur burglar could buy your details and just stake out your place for a month. Worst case scenario and armed gang performs a home invasion and forces a crypto transfer. Niggers murder eachother over a couple grand worth of drug money, now they know your address and know you have at least that much.

>>20794536
Niggers don't understand crypto. If anything they'll steal your ledger and sell it on Facebook with your crypto still on it

>>20794650
replaced that word nigger with highly organized gang. u should be afraid fucking retard.

these fools who willingly break and enter into Linkies domain are NGMI

so that only concerns sales made directly at Ledger's own webstore right? If you sold form a reseller than basically you're good

>>20794289
False they are sending emails today. Look at ledger twitter. Tweets and replies.
What a mess

shit I literally finally got one like 2 days ago. I can assume I'm good as they probably learned their lesson and doubled down on security after this shit

>>20793961
I wonder if billing addresses were compromised?

Plenty probably had theirs delivered to PO boxes and places of employment.

>>20795040
Yeah right.

>>20795040
billing address is the same as my landlords
I treated that place as my home until I found out paying $800 working from home was pointless and moved back to my parents
Also I only used my first and last name. It's quite generic and there are thousands with that name combination in my country
>inb4 Muhammad Seif

companies should be sued for shit like this

>>20793938
yo... yoouu.... youuuu clicked it... didnt you?

>>20793506
I get that it's really bad that a tech company that failed to secure it's customer data, but how is this fundamentally different from
>we know this person has a bank account, therefore they have a bank pass and we can threaten them to withdraw and give us that money

95% of crypt holders is still pajeet tier <$1000 portfolios, so nless they can match wallet adreses to the person adresses, it's still not that bad probably. Not anymore than having an expensive car or house puts a target on your back

Also, marketing department so probably there's also people who at some point filled in a newsletter e-mail or whatever but never actually bought one. Imagine their situation if the Russian mob shows up

>>20793961
Same here HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>20795333
>95% of crypt holders is still pajeet tier <$1000 portfolios
Based retard you don't buy a ledger if you have a jeetfolio.

>>20795214
Your name isn't as bad as your address, but both is as bad as it gets. I know if i was one of the 9500 i'd be seriously considering moving. The only people that would purchase that information off the deep web aren't going to be doing it to send you a physical letter asking for your seed phrase. The truth is they have probably been taking names/address off ledger website for years but ledger only keeps a month internet log so only know of the most recent breach. Time to go on the deepweb and buy any address in my suburb so no one else gets it.

>>20795390
>but ledger only keeps a month internet log so only know of the most recent breach
Then how did I get an email when I ordered over 2 years ago mr. shill?

worst thing is there's no consequence for them

>>20795414
Re-read what i wrote, i was saying hackers have probably been breaching them for ages... its pretty convenient that they find the breach and it was only used once half a month ago. More likely its been used before but they dont have server access logs that go back very far.

When did you get an email?

>>20795541
>When did you get an email?
Couple hours ago.

>>20795574
everyone got it. only 9500 had addresses leaked

>>20795709
>only 9500 had addresses leaked
How far back do the leaked orders go?

>>20795727
they dont say shit. they should contact those 9500 people. fucking frogs

>>20795744
Why did they not contact them when they learned of the leak 1 week ago?
Imagine someone already got murdered or robbed because of this and they didn't do anything else than protect their own company.

>>20795382
No. It is actually those with jeetfolios who buy this. Ledger is cheap. Whales know better because they themselves can buy Ledger the company if they wanted to.

>>20795709
Why should it be only 9.500 addresses and not the complete fucking database if the attacker had access to it for an entire day? Its probably a mere self-serving declaration.

>>20795574
>>20795709
I didn't get any emails from ledger. Not from Europe so maybe it was just euro details leaked as french company has to follow euro law and keep euro details?

>>20795962
Do you realize there are intermediate options between jeets and whales? Not whales but still very profitable?

>>20796000
I am curious too about this part.
Is it because they only kept the addresses for some people for a shorter amount of time depending on the laws of the receiver's country for data retention?
Or did this third party specifically use these 9500 addresses for things like replacing a defect ledger for example or sending a gift?
I don't know what the failure rate of Ledger HW is, but 9500 from 1 M would put it at 1% of the total.
This could be related to people who sent back their defect Ledger and got a new replacement.

>>20795962
>>20796055
What do whales use?

>>20796000
checked. i think it's related to the global scale FUD happening right now with crypto, i,e twitter hack. my best guess is this is a controlled op inside and out.

>>20796060
It makes me so fucking angry.
They could at least tell those people who's address got leaked. Fucking French scum. I'll finish those motherfuckers.
How retarded can you be.
I bet way more addresses than those 9k got leaked anyway

>>20796055
Keep pushing your narrative then. I do not how you profit from scaring people away from Ledger, unless you are from Trezor or Coinbase or Binance. Not my problem either way, because real men buy gold bullions. Enjoy your jeetcoins.

>>20796097
Same for me..
It's already stressful enough to follow the crypto space and try not to love all your money.
I don't want to also fear for my life...

I can't trust them anymore.
We need to make a list of measures to take to protect ourselves from this.

We may have to move our funds to a different wallet, and some of us may have to move out to a different address and to buy defense weapons with an advanced security system.
If you get an official visit from someone pretending to be a police officer you should refuse to open your door and contact the police immediately...

>>20795709>>20795709
I didn't tick the box when I bought my ledger to subscribe to their marketing emails, so I don't have any emails from them that I can see... (Not even a purchase confirmation email?) What is the official email address they are using to send out emails to customers?

>>20796072
An exit scam lol. What else.

>>20796151
Whatever makes you sleep at night :)
Tick tock, motherfucker, tick tock...

>>20796097
>>20796097
>I bet way more addresses than those 9k got leaked anyway
You can be sure of it...
>Since when does this issue exist?
>The API key misconfiguration at issue has been running since August 9th, 2018. Based on the information we have, we believe it was discovered and exploited from April 2020 to June 28th, 2020.
The exploit was possible for 2yrs.

>>20796183
how is "this guy bought a ledger thus he must be very rich so I will rob him" fundamentally different from "this guy bought a very expensive tv/car/horse/wife whatever so I can rob him"

>>20796257
>discovered and exploited from April 2020
this is just the official date
imagine how much longer it's been known about, low key
how much fucking addresses are logged in a few hacker's .txts
holy shit this is bad

>>20796183
Oh wait. Is that you again, nignog? The seething Trezor employee? How come you are not FUDding Trezor?

> tick tock
It's all the same script.

you guys shipped your ledger to your house and not the post office ?

>>20796257
>we believe it was discovered and exploited from April 2020 to June 28th, 2020
So according to them only orders from this time would have their addresses leaked?

>>20796346

>>20796097
>>20796166
Fuck these fucking french faggots, they should compensate every single affected person.

>>20796257
>The API key misconfiguration at issue has been running since August 9th, 2018.
I actually ordered my device before that. But I still got the E-Mail though.
I can't move my place neither, because I own the house.
Fuck, I really get stomache pain even thinking about it

>>20796261
>tv/car/horse/wife
They aren't easily stolen and impossible to return. Even a billionaire can only withdraw $1000 from an ATM at gun point. But if he was a crypto billionaire he could be robbed for his billions. There is nothing comparable to crypto when it comes to theft. The next closest thing is knowing someone has $20,000 of drug money in his home but he is going to be prepared for a home invasion, unlike a crypto hoarding neet. If you had ledger addresses you would just select the ones in the most expensive neighborhoods and go rob them and within 12hrs you could be worth a million dollars. Explain how that is possible in any other scenario without expecting to run into paid armed guards and bank level security?

>>20796389
with what, new kneecaps?

This is why you buy gold, not internet coins! You let pros handle your bullions.

>>20796261
Hmm I wonder. How is someone deciding to steal your car any different from someone knowing you have a digital asset that can be instantly and irreversibly transferred to them? Oh yeah maybe that it isn't covered by insurance and no criminal is going to peel off your fingernails because they think your car is a decoy and they want to know where the chirron is parked.

>>20796261
The biggest difference is that it's retarded to commit crime on a public, immutable ledger.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/global-darknet-child-porn-probe-leads-to-337-arrests-1.4642353

>>20796393
And these pieces of shit claim they beed to store that data because of legal reasons. What fucking legal reasons could there possibly be to store such sensitive customer information

>>20793506
OP is a fag and I ain't clicking shit

>>20796261
>how is "this guy bought a ledger thus he must be very rich so I will rob him" fundamentally different from "this guy bought a very expensive tv/car/horse/wife whatever so I can rob him"
Are you dumb? The point is that cryptos can be transferred very fast and very easy, without any limits and without any way to get it back.

>>20796422
>>20796440
good points. But still that means (and I agree btw) that people of which can be assumed they are very rich AND have their ledger adress leaked are at higher risk now, not that everybody who owns a ledger and is knows usddenly is a HVT for armed robberies

>>20796439
not sure what you mean by this, but interested can you elaborate?

my email along one MILLION others, and im supposed to shit bricks here? lmao who gives a shit, nothing will happen

>>20796468
also leaving a permanent, immutable evidence trail of the crime

>>20796506
What are privacy coins. Jesus fucking christ you are so clueless. You are in DEEP SHIT

>>20796530
lol, which exchange are you going to use?

>>20796468
IF the robber is completely sure the victim is actually rich. But it's still armed robbery probably in someones house so there's a risk in that and lets say the average balance is maybe like $5000, how is this overall a btter course of action than just robbing rich peoples jewerly or scamming old people?

>>20796443
>What fucking legal reasons could there possibly be to store such sensitive customer information
Zero. And you don't link it to an API key neither. This is not even like a mistake, which could happen. This is just straight up pathetic.
They also said that the leak exists since August 2018.
I ordered my device before that and still got the E-Mail.
So expect that literally everybody who ordered from them is fucked.
I also don't believe the 9k number in any way. Why only addresses of 9k people and not the rest? Where is the explanation for that?
They just want to safe their face in my opinion. Otherwise they could just inform those 9k people. But it obviously is everybody

>>20794536
>some amateur burglar could buy your details and just stake out your place for a month
Has staking started, then?

>>20793506
Lol, my info has been circulating for years. I have been in so many data breaches at this point I just assume everyone has my info.

I ordered mine in march 2018. I got an email, it doesn't say my addresses was one of the ones leaked though, just that the leak has happened.

I've moved since then so I think I'm OK.

>>20793779
Yikes

This is why you buy used on eBay
Crypto is full of retards

>>20796632
Thats not safe either as the device mightve been tampered with retard

Ledger now owes it customers to design a product with multiple points of abundance.
If more than 25% of the total assets are wished to transferred, the person has to go on a video call walking through his house/apartment to confirm he has no gun to his head and maybe even set it that way that your family members, wife also have to.
The person owning the ledger can not sign the tx without the Ledger entity giving the OK and vice versa.
There should be a possibility to choose between this and the old fashioned solution that there is now, when setting up the device
This should be free of charge.

>>20796643
i think that's the joke my man

>>20793779
if you bought from a reseller you're fine though

>>20796676
still raises the question if the same thing doesn't hold, does the average reseller have unhackable customer data?

Yes, if our data show you are concerned by the personal information data leak, you will receive a dedicated email today at 5pm CEST. If your postal address is concerned, it will be specified.

ledger guy on reddit
https://reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/hzwcft/_/fzlxec5/?context=1

>>20796692
>does the average reseller have unhackable customer data?
no but when ledger sells 85% of their products inhouse and the rest percentage is divided by like 100 retailers from all of the world. The risk of them becoming a target is lower

anyway, banks will now hold crypto accounts. When the bull run really begins, almost everybody will own crypto so who cares if someone knows you ordered a ledger

>>20796692
Less likely to be hacked. Companies like ledger have to be able to withstand government agencies hacking them to steal untraceable black project funds. Your average reseller is too small time to attacked capable adversaries.

am i affected by this if i bought a ledger over amazon?

>>20796725
>3.5 hours until you know if the dark web is coming over for dinner

>>20796000
Feels like this whole operation is staged. I guess it is time to move. This golden bull market is going to explode and the powers that be want your info.

>>20796725
But, if your email address and home address have ever been linked on another compromised website, you're also fucked.

>>20793506
people actually bought these things? just put your shit on a fucking encrypted storage device. even an encrypted thumb would be as good. keep it unplugged when you aren't using it. done. wtf is wrong with people?

That's why you should never trust an EU company with your data.

>>20796558
because u would have to snuggle that shit across boarder with crypto u can send it to Ivan

I FUCKING TOLD YOU

USE GPG AND UBUNTU


ALL HW WALLETS ARE INSECURE


HW WALLETS PUT YOU IN EXTREME DANGER


PLEASE STOP USING HW WALLETS

didn't the same shit happen a while ago too? i remember data of people's addresses being leaked

>>20796422
Implying we're not prepared for a home invasion

lol investing in crypto has been the worse decision I've ever made in my life

>>20793506
So I'm going to have some nasty cunts come drill holes in my hands only to find I lost 90% of what I put in on REQ and vechain back in 2018 kek

>Day 1: Uncouth gentlemen offer to cut your bollocks off unless you transfer all your crypto
>Day 1.5: Transfer all your crypto
>Day 2: Different uncouth gentlemen offer to cut your bollocks off unless you transfer all your crypto

>>20797047
have you even paid a professional team to raid your house in a simulated home invasion and simunition?

how can you claim to be prepared if you never even drilled the scenario you think is going to happen?

a wallet app on your phone is actually more secure than HW. No legit app wallets have been hacked

>>20797289
get raided before 5PM CEST email goes out and you can sue ledger to the heavens

>>20795727
2018

Great so i can buy now and knowing they wont fuck it up again.

>>20796576
>They also said that the leak exists since August 2018.
>I ordered my device before that and still got the E-Mail.
Yeah me too, and I even ordered more than one because I ordered for some friends too... Fucking bullshit

>>20795727
>>20797381
From the FAQ
> Since when does this issue exist?

The API key misconfiguration at issue has been running since August 9th, 2018. Based on the information we have, we believe it was discovered and exploited from April 2020 to June 28th, 2020.

>>20797419
they've only sent the generic email out yet. Another 3 hours before you know what has been leaked specific to you.


they claim only 9500 had name and or email and or postal address, which seems retarded wouldn't it be everyone?

>>20797464
>they claim only 9500 had name and or email and or postal address, which seems retarded wouldn't it be everyone?
It definetly seems retarded. I am by no means an expert. But if those french niggers had their customer database airgrapped, and the hacker had access to it, then why should Mr. Hacker have been able to only get 9500 addresses? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
I really hope someone takes Ledger out or their CEO/employees
Even worse than getting scammed by a Chink project

>>20797464
The only way it wouldn't be everyone is if it was only the people that purchased it during those times. They probably use the same 'marketing database' to hold your physical address for the postage side of thing until after like a month of it being sent.

>>20797464
Well it does seem like bullshit, probably best to assume all customers have had all their info leaked. It really is fucked, I don't even live at the same place nor do I have crypto anymore but I fear for my parents...

>>20797598
We can only hope

They have fucked up really bad. You can change from Ledger to Trezor or even sell all of your crypto and you might still be a target. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next summer, maybe in 5 years. Even your email address is enough, if you have used it in anywhere else where you have given other info about yourself, or if your real name can be traced based on your email address. You will be forever a person who holds crypto, even if you don't.

Owning crypto is 100 times more tempting for criminals than Lambo's or mansions. It can be stolen in matter of seconds and it doesn't leave any traces if transferred properly.

EU's GDPR clearly states anyone can get compensation and this case passes easily.

"You can claim compensation if a company or organisation hasn’t respected the data protection law and you’ve suffered material damages (for example financial loss) or non-material damages (for example distress or loss of reputation). You can make a claim to the company or organisation concerned or before the national courts. You can claim compensation before the courts of the EU Member State where the controller or processor is established. Alternatively, such proceedings may be brought before the courts of the EU Member State of your habitual residence."

Ledger as a company is fucked. They will have to pay millions to customers and their CEO is already packing his bags.

>>20797700
>worlds first immutable public ledger
>it doesn't leave any traces if transferred properly.
choose one

AHAHAHAHAHA
I live in hood so bad these fucks are gonna be killed by niggers before even getting to me

You DID order a ledger under a fake name and had it delivered to your company parcel service with hundreds of employees that also has since moved to another city and with whom youve ended your working relationship

Right anon?

>>20797741
Ever heard of privacy coins?

>>20797809
how are you going to exchange them

you are all acting like hysterical women, literally no one cares about you enough to spend the energy and effort needed to track you down based on an email address and hope you're one of the few people that actually have any substantial crypto holdings.
like anyone is willing to rob someone and risk jail not knowing if the payout is gonna be worth it. the people dumb enough to do something like that don't even know what a blockchain is

>>20793561
Wow so they stole the list of addresses for their spam emails that no one even reads

>>20797831
Fucking kek. Yeah a lot of manchilds here. How is this any riskier than investing in Stocks where you could loose everything because some dumb CEO fucked a chick without consent and it gets blasted in the papers

poo poo pee pee

>>20793506
retards
/thread

>>20797822
With any exchange that has EUR/USD withdrawal, of course. They don't care where the money came, they can't even see it.

>>20798022
>can only rob privacy coins
>exchange kyc

I just checked and all my links were tapped out of my ledger stick guys? I'm literally shaking right now

>>20797831
Imagine someone going through all this effort of buying some leaked list of addresses, then breaking and entering, possibly getting caught on camera or the home owner having an alarm system or being armed, only to steal someones measly 200 stinky linkies in the end

>>20796606
Bro. Fucking underrated here. Hahahaha

>>20793904
No it’s not. The have to spend x amount of resource to maybe find a guy that holds 1mill trx

>>20796911
Is there a guide to this

>>20798095
I Just had a representative from ledger come to my house to verify the integrity of my seed phrase. They said they'd post it back when they were done

Lol have a ledger but never ordered from them directly.


EZ

Why the FUCK are they keeping our details on file anyway?

>>20797831
KEK. This. Ledger sold millions of these. Most anons like myself are poorfags that have like $5,000 - $10,000 in crypto. This leak is really nothing in the big picture because the number of ledger owners actually holding significant value is relatively small. People freak out over everything.

>>20798466
the idea that owning crypto makes you a target is kinda delusional, criminals might s well join any of the crypto telegram communities and find literally thousand of victim in there

>>20797831
Bullshit. The addresses are sold to your local thugs. Nigerians, Moroccons, yugos etc. They literally kill for $300. So i bet ur ass, you are in danger if your address got leaked.

>>20797831
What's your home address then?

>>20796261
much easier to resell and keep your profits.

stolen car is worth 30% of retail on black market.

stolen crypto is worth 100% of retail once stolen.

>>20793506

Good luck robbing my place of work since that's the address I used I guess.

>>20798466
says a lot about their product that they can't even keep a basic merchant site reasonably secure from breach, and were unaware of said breach for 2 years.

>>20793506
lots of burgers here worried about armed home invasions. Europoor here and I am going to pull my cryptos off ledger. The biggest issue I see is that ledger probably did not comply with GDPR regulations. The penalties will cripple the company, they will literally go bankrupt over this, if they get sued by eu agencies.

>>20798052
You clearly don't understand how privacy coins works.
If you send privacy coins to exchange, the exchange can't see where they are coming from and you can withdraw them normally. KYC has nothing to do with it, just pay your taxes and say you bought Bitcoin in 2012.

>>20796632
underrated bait

>>20799129
say you bought Bitcoin in 2012

IRS here..
Can I see your bank statement with that transaction please sir

Meh, they will never get past the first level of my dungeon. Someone wants to break in and see my sweet gun collection? Sure!

On another note, in most states your name and address is public. With crypto, you’re one of a billion people who have some. The normal people are extremely low risk for roaming bands of crypto thieves. Niggers are the biggest danger.

>>20793506
Wow it's nothing

>>20793779
Gimme yo efereums white boy

>>20797700
>You can change from Ledger to Trezor or even sell all of your crypto and you might still be a target. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next summer, maybe in 5 years. Even your email address is enough, if you have used it in anywhere else where you have given other info about yourself, or if your real name can be traced based on your email address. You will be forever a person who holds crypto, even if you don't.
>Owning crypto is 100 times more tempting for criminals than Lambo's or mansions. It can be stolen in matter of seconds and it doesn't leave any traces if transferred properly.
This

>>20797741
>>worlds first immutable public ledger
>>it doesn't leave any traces if transferred properly.
>choose one
Absolute brainlet

>>20798466
>KEK. This. Ledger sold millions of these. Most anons like myself are poorfags that have like $5,000 - $10,000 in crypto
Just wait for next bullrun

>>20798499
>the idea that owning crypto makes you a target is kinda delusional, criminals might s well join any of the crypto telegram communities and find literally thousand of victim in there
How do they get your full name and address from telegram? Are you actually retarded? And ledger users are on average wealthier than the random Pajeet on a shitcoin telegram. Especially those who bought 3-5 ledgers.

>Your crypto assets are safe and are not in peril
FUNDS ARE SAFU

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>20794536
Please. I am heavily armed and there's only one real entrance in to my home and it's through a reinforced front door. Come try and rob me, it'll be fun.

>>20798466
link then link now.

>>20793506
HAHAHAHAHA I TOLD YOU RETARDS DAYS AGO HARDWARE WALLETS AND CENTRALIZED EXCHANGES ARE FOR NOOBS

>>20800654
>I am heavily armed and there's only one real entrance in to my home and it's through a reinforced front door
Based retard, you are basically telling them you DO have something worth to steal

Nothing on Ledger's FAQ on the breach or in the generic e-mail they sent out to all customers who purchased a Ledger mention anything about contacting the 9500 people who had their addresses exposed.

Where are you guys hearing they will personally notify those who had their addresses leaked?

you faggots called me retarded for buying mine off amazon 3 years ago
who’s retarded now ahahahahahahha

This is no big deal really. This is nothing different than any other website getting their customer information hacked. This does make your email a bigger target for hacking and phishing. No one is coming to your house for your linkies, lol.

>>20800819
Good I want some action. Fucking come.

>>20794536
haha good thing i moved since buying my ledger 2 years ago

>>20793506
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY BROKE INTO MY HOUSE AND MADE ME GIVE THEM MY KEYS ALL MY FUNFAIR IS GONE THEY TOOK MY FUCKING HOLOCHAIN TOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20796346
my billing address is also my local post office

>>20800848
It is in the FAQ in the beginning, retard. And they posted that on reddit.

>>20800904
Noooooo not holochain too. OH THE HUMANITY

>>20801001
No it isn't retard.

>>20801045
LMAO are you blind?

>>20801071
LMAO are you a nigger?

>>20798989
um can u read????? the funds are safu... why pull out? it's not like ledger lose anything when u move funds, u literally just lose txn fees

Guys some dude in a suit came by my house to discuss the benefits of investing in bitcoin. Surely just a coincidence right

They cant know peoples eth addresses based on this though, right? Just their names and house address (which is bad still). If I bought mine in 2017 am I safe?

>>20796745
Can confirm, have attacked dozens of small time resellers and it wasn't nearly as fun as I thought it would be

-14 minutes to the moment of truth

>>20797700
>EU's GDPR clearly states anyone can get compensation and this case passes easily.
How do we seek compensation? Does anyone know

>tfw now that they have to make the contact details extra secure I can finally safely buy a Ledger in about a month or two
yeah I'm based

>>20801383
good luck anon

>>20801473
Thanks man

Fuck me
I bought a Ledger for me, then moved to a different address and bought another one for my brother as a gift. So now they know my new address.

Anons check your junk email because I received an email saying I was among the 9500. Only name and surname were accessed.

>>20800744
Or just use Trezor

Didn't receive the email, good

>>20801236
Well chance of the same hacker on here is also likely and collecting ur data. Mentioning 2017 and consider this is a link board perhaps they can take a guess.

So is this the generic email sent to anyone who bought a Ledger or is this the email sent to only the 9500 who had their addresses leaked?

>>20801885
That's the generic email.

>>20801885
i didnt even get the generic one

>>20801885
The email says in bold what info was compromised.

>>20801383
Wew, no 2nd email seems like I'm safe. Now all my underwater shitcoins are safe to rot to zero.

>>20794536
this will literally never happen retard

It's 5:15 CET and I still have no email. They better not be emailing only people who are compromised, but emailing everyone and letting them know specifically.

Doesnt the same concern apply to when binance got hacked or any other kyc exhange. They know your info and that you have crypto. So unless you only ever used dexs or faked everything, seems like you are at risk. And if the gov database gets hacked they can check your tax filings and know you hold crypto. There is no end to being paranoid if you really think about it.

>>20802177
Have you checked junk email?

>>20802245
>the voices are coming back
thanks anon

>>20796911
Hardware wallets are basically another form of 2fa you fucking retard. It's about keeping your seed phrase secret

>>20802177
>It's 5:15 CET and I still have no email. They better not be emailing only people who are compromised, but emailing everyone and letting them know specifically.
They clearly stated only the 9500 were going to receive an email. You're safe

>>20797700
>>20801393
>>20795414
>>20801697
Perhaps we should organise a petition. I don't know if it would be best for all customers to do it or only the ones in the EU especially France since that would presumably be a lot easier. Then make a seperate petition for burgers. Are you in France? Luckily I didn't get the email that my address was leaked, but maybe we can still sue on the basis that it could have been? Can we take them to kleros court perhaps?

>>20802245
this. Also both mastercard and Visa will start to issue crypto compatible cryptocurrencies, so having crypto is going to be normal soon

>>20794536
DESU if I was a criminal and wanted to do criminal things and PHYSICALLY go after people, there are many more efficient ways than going after leaked addresses of ledger holders. Because its a gamble and you dont know if they are holding the big bucks. You have no fucking clue if they are actually rich or not.

If you are rich and flaunting it, if you have a really, really big home, driving a lambo, yeah sure, then I would be worried. But for the average holder living in their average middle class home, all you will have to worry about are hacking attempts which happen all the time anyway. If your personal info is leaked, thats a bit worse, you might have to worry about identity theft, but there is protection against that as well.

That is why if you make it YOU TELL NO ONE. You dont go flaunting your wealth. If you go flaunting your wealth, you're asking for it.

But I doubt we'll see armed home invasions lol. You arent that important.

I thought the mail comes at 5:30? Not 5:00? Can anyone confirm this?

>>20793779
TFW moved and some dumb bitch I absolutely hate lives at my old house :)

>>20802352
>That is why if you make it YOU TELL NO ONE. You dont go flaunting your wealth. If you go flaunting your wealth, you're asking for it.
Whats the point then

>>20802425
Based retard, the bitch will immediately give your new address to the niggers

>>20802401
Mine came 4.15

copy/paste the follow up email if you received it. i don't believe these lying french fucks

>>20802430
What do you mean? You think if you make it you can just plaster that shit all over social media like an idiot? Yeah, you can do that...but know that the more wealth you flaunt, the bigger target it makes you for criminals. It's that simple. If you're comfortable making yourself a target, then go for it.

The point of making it is that you have freedom. Freedom to start your own business, freedom to go on vacation, freedom to homeschool your kids, freedom to spoil your wife, freedom to take time off when you want to. That is the true point of being wealthy. If you want to flaunt your lambo on instagram, a fool is easily parted with their money.

When I make it, no one is gonna know except my immediate family. Not even my closest friends will know right away.

>>20796743
because it will prove you got in crypto when bitcoin was 10k and eth 300 (which will then be worth 1,000x those prices)

>>20802430
to be comfy and not have to wage slave for shekelstein

>>20794650
>with your crypto still on it
>still on it

>>20802549
>The point of making it is that you have freedom. Freedom to start your own business, freedom to go on vacation, freedom to homeschool your kids, freedom to spoil your wife, freedom to take time off when you want to. That is the true point of being wealthy.
Those things you mention will immediately make clear to anyone that you made it. It's exactly the same as posting your lambo.

>>20802624
Kek, fell for the bait

>>20793506
As long as you locked in at the top of the bull run in 2018, you'll be fine. You did lock in your BTC at $18,000 right anon?

>>20802462
I ordered one ledger in early-mid 2018 and a second one 1-2 months ago because the old one broke and I haven't received a second mail today. At least not yet. Sorry to hear, Anon. Stay safe.

So even if my address would leak out, you're telling me I should be worried...why?
I live in a broke ass appartment a 20 minute bus ride from where the financial & lawyer district of my country is. I'm talking thousands of people in tech, banking and law wearing $3000 suits daily, spending $100's on lunch daily, having bankaccounts more than what we consider "making it", very likely at east half of the ones under 40 years old also have crypto (at least some BTC) and yet you're telling me organized crime would come after me because they know I've bought a ledger? yeeeah I don't think so

come on /biz/ step it up. we need to sue, especially us french anons.

>>20802650
>Those things you mention will immediately make clear to anyone that you made it
Again it depends on your social media footprint. Do you post everything about your life?

What should I do?

>>20802840
get a gun if you don't have one

>>20802840
Get a gun, yes. You should have one anyway. But I would be more on alert for identity theft and hacking attempts. Just use your common sense.

>>20802840
Other then the subject title, that paragraph reads the same as in the the 1st email. What does the juicy part say?

I didn't even buy a fucking ledger why am I getting the email?

Never ordered a ledger

Still got the email

Fuck this crypto bullshit selling it all now

>>20802840
pls post complete screenshot, i just got the generic mail without detailed

When did you guys make your accounts/buy a Ledger?

I made the account and bought one in December '17, and I haven't gotten a second email. Pretty lousy that they can't manage to give people a timeframe for when their addresses were at risk.

This was the second email btw, and it showed up under spam

>>20803100
wat

>>20803270
Ouch

>>20803232
>August 9th, 2018 - June 28th, 2020
Says so in one image ITT. I bought one in mid 2018 and one in June 2020 I think. IDK whether I got lucky here and dodged a bullet (literally) in regards to the timeframe, or I'm simply not affected.

>>20803270
sue them

Even though I've been downplaying this a little bit, I do have to say that I think its utterly pathetic that not only did this happen, but that it took someone of the community to discover this, and not Ledger themselves. Utterly disgraceful. I smell a possible class action lawsuit in the works.

I was looking at getting ledger nano x is this a sign not to?

>>20796632

>>20798175
no they show up to anons house whos address and name was on the database with a wrench and beat the shit out of you because in their minds you hold a lot of crypto because you have the device and if you don't send it to them it is only because you're lying and haven't been tortured enough

Thank god Trezor is open source

>Any customers reporting physical extortion?
>Not to our knowledge. Neither recently nor in the past.
They are already dead

How do we get a class action going here this is ridiculous

>>20797421
jesus fucking christ

>>20803604
I’m in

Also I just called the police non emergency to keep an eye out for my residential area

>>20796506
>>20796546
christ it's like babbys first day in crypto but he thinks he knows everything

>>20803270
When did you order the ledger?

>>20803100

same here. no idea how they got my contact info.

>>20803270
You and the others who were exposed should sue. There isn't enough pressure on Ledger to not fuck up again unless they are sued. I'd argue you stand to gain money from doing it as well.

You neets are stupid af

1. Wear 10k usd submariner and jewelry on Instagram where your name is shown. In most countries your name is all that’s needed to find your adress and rob you

2. Have some fucking shitcoins that are worth a few hundred In a usb stick

Who do you think the thugs finna ta come after and attempt to extort?

So many fucking pussies on this site, if any of you pussies are American that’s even worse. You should already own a gun and be prepared to protect your property.

>>20804175
Got it about 4 months ago I’d say
>>20804269
Will do. I’ve contacted authorities for now and will keep an eye out for a class action lawsuit, I’m sure ledittors will organize quicker than us to start something I’ll be on the look out

>>20796658
>what is a multisig

act nervous give them the wrong password 3 times, it locks. act like you cant find the seed. if you die, you die.

>>20804565
Hopefully it happens. These companies think they can get away with a colossal data breach that exposes client names and addresses by just apologizing. An apology isn't good enough. Compensation is required.

>>20804687
If you are American the answer is shooting them if they invade your home.

>tfw criminals now have my ex's address
>tfw never told her where I live now

>>20796422
The best thing about being robbed at gunpoint for your seed phrase is that even if you legitimately have secured your seed/private key in a way that isn't physically proximate and isn't easily recollectable (like splitting your key in 3 and holding the parts in different safe deposit boxes), they just won't believe you and will keep drilling your knuckles and eye sockets until you're dead. Versus gold or money where they can ransack your house and actually discover you really don't own any.

All your crypto are belong to us

MFW i oredered 3 ledger nanos and 1 ledger blue, but it was all in late 2017/early 2018 and got no breach email
AHAHAHAH SUCKERS ENJOY GETTING CHOPPED UP

>>20793506
Crypto wallets should be able to enable address whitelisting like exchanges have. If potential burglars knew it would take a week to set up a new whitelist address to one of their owned wallets, they wouldn't bother. Unless they planned on camping out for a week in the guy's home while they waited, to make sure he didn't transfer funds out to his exchange before they're able to get their address added to the whitelist.

>>20801923
then you have registered at them with a different email address.

>>20801923
also check your spam folder

>>20805256
i saw it now, it was in the junk mails.
havent gotten the second one tho so that is good

>>20802460
She doesn't know where I live. I don't live anywhere, I travel the world with my crypto gains.

Good luck finding me in some random airbnb that i'll be staying at for a few weeks max.

>>20793506
I have a ledger that I got from amazon. Checked email and nothing from ledger. I think if you bought from 3rd party then you’re fine but if you got it from main ledger site then you’re at risk.

>>20805407
Based if true

>>20805407
This is my dream life desu

>>20805407
Travelling brings about it's own risks. Crypto in the bank will be the norm.

>>20796763
I'm actually curious about this as well

>>20805042
what the last date of purchases affected by breach?

>>20794289
>If you haven't received an email from ledger after the 21st of July letting you know your data has been taken then it doesn't affect you. If you have you might want to get a gun.

This is not correct. They are sending out emails to everyone:
> What personal information was involved?
>Contact and order details were involved. This is mostly the email address of our customers. Further to investigating the situation we have also been able to establish that, for a subset of customers were also exposed: first and last name, postal address, phone number and ordered products. Due to the scope of this breach and our commitment to our customers, we have decided to inform all of our customers about this situation.

>>20797831
This, but unironically

>>20805435
What if third party who sell Ledgers is actually a gang that comes and breaks in your house after a few months once imo had a chance to load it up?

wasn't it just user details? our ledger is still safe tho

>>20793506
Does this affect people who bought theirs from the official Amazon reseller or only those who bought directly from Ledger website?

>>20806480
just 9500 user details

>>20796763
This

>>20800877
But Anon, you haven't made it yet! You don't have big boy guns nor a home with only one entrance!

It's just user details who the fuck cares

You know where I live? Cool, stop by, fuck around and find out what happens

>>20801200
That was Satoshi Nakamoto who visited you. You are blessed...

>>20793506
Do people here actually order their ledgers to their own address and not a PO?

>>20796632
>buys used crypto wallets
>calls everyone a retard

has anyone gotten this mysterious 5CSET email yet? I have only gotten the general "YO WE FUCKED UP N SHIEEET"

Bump

>>20793735
This ^

>>20794339
Same, although Im not afraid if criminals try to rob me. Once they're in my house, they aren't leaving until Im dead.

>>20796911
Or better yet just use meta mask and encrypt the words key with a strong encryption.

>>20793506
time to change wallet. just bought a Ngrave Zero wallet.

>>20793779
Just cuz they know u have a ledger means nothing as long as your private key is secure u fucking retards, you think they will go door to door in hope of a gold mine? If anything they attempt scams through text or email just don't hit dumb links faggots

>>20808637
>Once they're in my house, they aren't leaving until Im dead
so they will kill you

>>20804714
>>20803604
>>20803356
>>20803341
>>20804565

What type of compensation are we entitled to in the event a class action lawsuit is brought forward? Is it a couple of hundred bucks each party? If so, no point other then to teach Ledger a lesson

>>20809600
>What type of compensation are we entitled to
go to sleep, Karen

>>20793506
Can we sue these fuckers for such fuckery?

>>20796422
My 12 gauge is ready

>>20802996
>>20802922
this is one of the only times im glad i live in an apartment complex. good luck niggers.

>>20807388

Used ledgers are fine just wipe them before you transfer

Got a phone call from Trezor sales department shilling me their products out of the blue. is it related to this hack?

>>20811497
Hackers sold it to Trezor

>>20811497

>be trezor
>hack ledger
>use data to shill trezors to concerned ledger users

4d chess

was anyone attacked by niggers yet?

>>20812230
open season

Anyone remembers that Danish poster who got home invaded by two Slavs after he revealed he had a ledger at a party?

So if I didn't get the email yet saying I was personally affected... Am I good?

>>20812801
I got the generic e-mail but not the one like anon posted earlier in the thread, I also bought mine in April so idk if I'm in the clear or not

>>20793779
This could happen regardless. You should be behaving in a manner to mitigate problems that may arise from people knowing your details anyway

>>20794536
Only 9500 postal addresses were leaked fortunately.

>>20796632
THIS is how bait is done, 10/10 sir

>>20793506
Jokes on them i bought mine in ebay and includes the 24 words engrave in metal plate

>>20803488
>Buy $3000 plane ticket to Anons city
>Beat him to death with a wrench to get the pin
>Now 0.3 ETH and 101 Hex richer
Jackpot.

>>20813845
Based