/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>21490194

check out /fit/

find hobbies like art, sports or learn an instrument. you might find your purpose there.

dont stay up too late mood is better in the mornings than after 2am

good luck

What do you do for a living?

>>21490384
Thanks bro

>>21490562
I started dropshipping to accumulate capital, since I had no money at all. Now I'm a full time stock trader.

>>21490709
You a day trader? Do you have a trading strategy that you follow or do you just fuck around like most of /biz/?

>>21490826
Of course I follow certain strategies, otherwise I wouldn't be doing it for long. Day trading is hard

>>21490194
>quasi made it and still unhappy
ngmi

>>21490891
Any advice for people new to trading?

>>21490709
>Now I'm a full time stock trader.
How much to go full time? I was thinking 125k.

>>21490194
>don't go anywhere and just stay closed inside my house because I don't like people that much.
do you live in a place where you can hike or camp? spending a few hours out innawoods hiking or better yet an overnight camping trip is very restorative.

>>21490194
You should go to the gym man, I had this 4 years ago, feel much better since 4-6× a week eating iron

>>21490960
Study a lot and trade in a simulator until you become consistently profitable

>>21490981
at least 30k to trade and 1 or 2 years of living expenses

>>21490990
yea I should start doing that. I like being in nature actually

>>21490194
Get out of your house and go for a walk in your nearest national park/trails. Pick up a sport or hobby. It's better to be trapped inside your own mind if you're fishing etc.

If your fat, lose some weight and eat better because cooking is fun. I gaurentee you'll start feeling much better.

>>21491051
That is really low. I don't believe it at all.
I have 80k in my brokerage and it wouldn't be possible to go full time investor now.

>>21491006
Just restarted going to gym. It was closed for several months because of the bullshit pandemic

>>21490194
Google “power process”

>>21491092
thanks bro

>>21491098
This.

>>21490194
challenge yourself. explore. get outside of your comfort zone. go outside. learn about who you are by bumping into things, like a baby learning how to walk and stumbling into shit.

The key is intentionality. being intentional. if you let the isolation grow and pay more and more attention to it, it will dominate your life no matter what. you are the one who must take action to live your own life. decide to live an epic life, and it will happen. this decision is made over and over again, and comes into play with everything that you do. have an epic breakfast. have an epic workout. have an epic trading session. buy some epic silver. make things matter to you.

enjoy life, have fun, love yourself and smile. you're alive. good luck.

>>21491098
To day trade properly you only need 25k+ to escape the pdt rule. You can't really day trade with huge accounts because of spread slippage. I trade with 100k and anything over that I withdraw. I have a long term investment account with more than 100k in but thats a different story.

>>21490194
I was with you right up until "don't go anywhere"

Wfh is a fucking meme anon, and a dangerous one at that. I'm not saying you should go and find an office to rent or anything, but you should look into co-working spaces or even just going to fucking Starbucks to work during the day. You need a mental break between your working space and your living space, otherwise you're never really working and you're never really living.

t. very similar situation to your own, been doing it 10+ years.

>>21491196
Thanks man. That hit me hard :)

>>21491077
I once did a hardcore 12 day suvivalist mode camping trip. Upon returning, I was amazed at the simple comforts of civilization. like sitting in shower watching clean clear water pour out by the gallon.
the experience reset my brain for about 5 years

>>21490194
Teach me how to do the same. Tried one time and failed miserably.

>>21491212
>To day trade properly you only need 25k+ to escape the pdt rule

I don't day trade. I have no problem holding a position for a week or over a year, but I don't buy and sell on the same day. Day trading is a joke and the vast majority lose their shirt in it.

>>21490194
This sounds awesome, stop being a bitch.

>>21491226
You're right. Being isolated fucks you up mentally. The movies that your mind produces are insane

>>21491275
sounds cool

>>21491296
>Day trading is a joke and the vast majority lose their shirt in it.
Most people lose money doing it yes, doesn't mean it's a joke.

>>21491416
You can't day trade with only 25k and expect to live on it.

>>21491285
see >>21491013

>>21491437
That's why I trade with 100k. I actually started trading with 10k. Once I accumulated 25k it became much easier.

>>21490384
this
just get absorbed in a productive hobby to take your mind off obsessive, negative thoughts.
and i specify productive cause nobody feels good about playing videogames all day.

>>21490709
dropshipping isnt just a meme? can it really work?

>>21491700
Yes it can, although it was way easier some years ago

>>21490194
You have an open attitude and taking anons advice. We're all gonna make it brother.

>>21491700
Drop shipping is now a meme. Market is way oversaturated. Any dropshipper you see flexing on social media is almost always lying. One of the kids that went to my high school believes he is a successful businessman but still works at Best Buy. I still follow him just for the lols. He reminds me of the McDonalds wojak.

Why does every loser on 4chan make 6 figures while im stuck making 13 dollars an hour with all my effort

>>21491829
>Market is way oversaturated
Basically this. 5 years ago was easy money tho

>>21490194
Was like you, just my business failed after 3 years. Was super depressed throughout and even more so depressed now.
Now what you can do and what I've tried:
>socialize within the community of your interests (you are a trader, find other traders to talk with and hang out, there are probably some seminars or gatherings of sorts out there)
>find a hobby- something you enjoy outside of your work- rock climbing, lifting, martial arts. Look for those that have a community if you are lifting then get into bodybuilding or powerlifting where there are people that are actually passionate about that stuff.
>sports in general are good- don't be a fat slob or a low energy skeleton.
>start dating- download all the dating apps you can find, buy a tripod and take pics of yourself if you got no friends.
>find events that interest you- concerts, seminars, festivals and go there.
>travel, get some tour guide or something and talk to other tourists or download tinder in that country and try to find a girl to hang out with you and show you around.
>go out in general, an hour walk a day, shits therapy and helps you just reset.
>get a laptop and trade at a library or a starbucks, helps me with focus but also a social place instead of your house.
Prolly missing some shit, but that's what comes to mind. If you can land a network of friends social things will start coming your way.

>>21491824
Yes bro

>>21492111
Thanks for advice anon

>>21490709
So, you sell courses? Literally every single scammer on instagram flexing their wealth sells courses on either dropshipping or forex

>>21490709
>I work for an investment bank and I'm literally banned from day trading.

kek fuck this gay earth

>>21492242

Bro just wait till you hear about my top 5 easy side gigs that earn passive income

>>21492242
>So, you sell courses
No, I also don't use social media

>>21492298
Dude! Offering 10 guides at 50% off! 9 left, don't miss out on the deal of a lifetime.

>>21492262
that sucks

>>21492262
Kek imagine cucking yourself from financial freedom by shackleing yourself to an old jewish institution.

>>21490194
What do you do anon

Sounds based

>>21490709
>Full time daytrader
Let me guess; started in March?

>>21492501
2016

>>21492400
they pay me £2000 a month (way above avg for a grad in my area) plus benefits its pretty comfy with china flu making us WFH. I'm only gonna stay another year so I have a nice looking CV and work at a place I actually give a shit about.

>>21492586
Shieet bro, how did you land that job? I've got a law degree but want to get into finance what credentials/internships do I need?

>>21492586
If you aren't staying long then why dont you invest 'long term' in crypto. Obfuscating your funds and daytrading through crypto platforms. Just dont withdraw until you leave the job.
£2000 is a good wagie salary for the uk esp anywhere but the south. Is that post tax too?
I moved away but when I lived there I stole money from my company as the pay was so poor. Miss the food and bants though.

>>21492649
Oh no im a software engineer lmao, i don't know a thing about finance.

I went to a community college in computing then that allowed me to fast track into a software engineering degree and then sign up for a graduate position here.

I did mention on my opening letter that i have a keen interest in crypto/blockchain - but haven't worked on anything like that at all.

>>21490194
start traveling anon, sometimes your city feels like a prison.

>>21492783
It's post tax and in the north. I do invest longterm, i've been hodling ETH, LTC, Link and RSR and stacking them every month.

>>21492912
this.

i'm kind of in the same position
>dropped out
>started a business
>invest in crypto
i've found that travel has been one of the best cures for this

if you're dropshipping, and can work remotely, you should definitely consider travelling.

you can meet other people doing dropshipping while travelling as well.

>>21490194
In general, once the money is figured out you need to get a physical hobby and a creative hobby. Think of why games are so compelling as opposed to real life. If you put in effort at a game, you get something out of it. Progression, skill improvement, rare gear. You need that irl too. For me the physical hobby is jujitsu, and the creative hobby is cooking. From jits I get physical confidence, good health, and camaraderie. From cooking I get the pleasure of increasing my skills, eating well, and the joy of feeding others. Both hobbies increase my attachment and understanding of the world in general, which makes me feel a sense of belonging. You should make a shortlist of physical and creative hobbies that you think you might like, and then go try them out.

>>21492941
Mah nigga, strong norfern lad here too. Youll make it with those holdings and your cash flow. Just dont get on the coke. Look into bzrx too, I hold the same except bzrx for ltc. Its like bitmex 3 click margin trading but decentralised no kyc and a bunch of other wacky cool shit thatll make it moon.
>Fuck Thatcher, Eat pies, neck pints.

>>21490194
Just blow some money on link right now.
Genuinely, buy $30,000 of link
And then laugh at the seething
If it goes down, you can be "lol, I lost $30,000 lmao" if it goes up, you can be "lol, I just bought this because I was bored, I'm going to need to buy another marina now"

>>21490194
Go fucking outside anon. Get some sun at least. Thats one of the biggest things for fighting depression people dont realize. Humans need sunlight.

>>21493224
I hold link already anon
>>21493303
Will do!

>>21492941
Lol they don't allow middle / back office to day trade? What a fucking load of BS

>>21490194
Unironically brazilian jiu jitsu. It's become a bit of a bugman meme, and some academies are crap, but if you find a dojo that trains actual fighters its a wonderful experience. Anything with cross-training in wrestling or striking is usually a good bet.

Sailing is also AWESOME. I don't mean yachts, but wind-powered small boats. It takes money, which works out well, since you have money.

Now if I could just learn to do what you do, so I can have enough time to actually do the things I like to do. Fuck, its funny how it works, innit? I know exactly what I'd do with my freedom, and I can't figure out how to achieve it. You have achieved it, and don't know how to use it. Goddammit.

Kek, tell you what. I coach you in getting into some fun shit, you talk me through starting on the road to financial independence, how does that sound?

>>21493717
Second this, I actually recommended BJJ to someone on fishbowl earlier. Purple belt here with 6 years exp. Really puts your brain to work, make good friends and you forget about literally everything during the duration of your session

>>21493617
It's a fucked up rule. Used to be in an investment club type thing with a guy who worked a Singapore desk and he couldn't even outright suggest what we should do, let alone have any of his own money involved.

Having said that, his hints were pretty easy to follow.

>make 6 figures per year

Does this have any meaning anymore? I mean who the fuck is not making 100k in a whole YEAR now a days? The fed is raining money from the sky right now. Is anyone so retarded they're not making over 100k/year in 2020?

>>21491051
30k is way too low

>>21493768
This, it really is like meditation, only you are in some serious pain afterwards. But even the pain is the good sort of pain. God I miss rolling, the UK quarantine rules can suck a dick.

>>21493869
80% of americans adults make less 40k a year

>>21494685

Maybe in 1990.

>>21492047
age maybe, depends
where you from?
what do you do?
How old are you?

>>21492047
Only the successful 5% brag and post about it. You don't see the failures posting so you assume success is the norm. Chin up lad