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>>21648103
>Is XSN ever getting on a decent exchange?
probably not desu. Why would they when they will have their own exchange. That would be like buying BNB on coinbase

>go to discord
>sign up for dex closed beta
>buy on the dex
It's that easy. Or just use fucking livecoin, it's no kyc and shady but the Russian mobsters that own it just want your fees, nothing else.

>>21648103
I have been holding XSN since it was $0.13 (last year). Here's my take.
If they deliver, it will moon. But it's a big if. Their DEX has been "just around the corner" since 2018. But it does seem like lately they have actually been accomplishing a lot of stuff, and it is an open beta so if you're at all tech savvy you can probably just join and see for yourself.
I see it as an asymmetrical trade. If they deliver, it's going to 10x no problem maybe more. If they don't, I will slow bleed out and only lose 1x my money.
Take from that what you will.

>>21648452
i honestly had no clue you could just deposit BTC and buy aggregated CEX funds from the DEX til now

>>21648103
Cz will never allow it, honestly fuck CMC it's shit. The coins are even listed by total market cap, its a fucking joke. Also he removed xsn trading pairs a while ago but got called out on it.

>>21648103
define "decent exchange".

they're on the only decentralized exchange that will push serious volume in 9 months time, and that's The Dex.

>>21648103
on an exchange like binance or something? it's doubtful since it's a direct threat to their high volume traders

>>21648103
>Shill me XSN
its gay and your lust for dick is endless, have at it op

>>21649000
Checked. Mt. Gox would never allow it either.
>>21649133
checked for staggering levels of projection

15% returns from steaking or running masternode, it pays for itself. Once we get 100mm volume each mn will get $360/day. In a few months my ass is retired, and my cats ass is very sore since I will no longer be going in to work. Might have to get a few more just so I don't accidentally kill the poor thing. Don't even think about fudding thin project you czs and copes. I won't fall for it because I'm going to the moon!

>>21648452
See pic related. This would have taken them quite a while to do, also the UI has improve A LOT since then.

>>21648366
>>21649000
>>21649022
>>21649133
Checked.

>>21649594
hydra will not be ready this year. if you don't believe this you should sell now because you will be very dissapointed

>>21650779
Correct that hydra won't be ready this year, however XSN is only at a 50Million marketcap. Do you think this is a good buy at the current price? I do.

>>21648103
Scamcoin

>>21650865
Why is it a scamcoin?

>>21650779

Who cares?

We aren't chasing pocket change uniswap pumps.

We're holding for link pump

>>21650883
Maybe you and i are, but there are folks on here we are treating like a slightly more long term hold than most uniswap pnd (ie 3 month hold vs 3 days).

I'm just trying to check expectations on the people who are saying they're going to retire on their 3 MN by the EOY

>>21650949
How many mn to retire by eoy then? I just want to know how much I need. Need $1.6k/wk to match my job. Might take less since I hate so much.

>>21651878
I need 2k/week to match mine and I think 5 masternodes will get me there end of next year.

>>21648452
This is my take as well. They just need to release that DEX and it will 10-20x easily.

>>21652097

Fucking comy knowing the link pump is coming.

I bought link to retire. I'm close but not quite. Sold 25% link and I was early. This is link pumping I George foreman guarantee it.

>>21651954
This might be reasonable if hydra comes out by then

>>21651878
3 won't do it. not sustainable anyway. if you cash out at peak of the bill run maybe you'll get enough to earn passive income off diversified investments, but to make it off Master Nodes you'll need more than block rewards unless you have 15-20 nodes.

wouldn't expect price much over $1 before year end, maybe $5 once we have decent number of alts and erc20s in the dex.

I'm shooting for 10 nodes by end of month here; have a feeling accumulation will become difficult after that for most of us mere mortals.

>>21651954
Fuck I hope you are right. With that much I could move out of Mississippi and go somewhere fun like Nashville or St pete. Hell, maybe even west palm beach or outright buy a place downtown Nashville. Only reason I'm here is because high pay but rent is only 1.1k/mo. Those cities pay less but rent is almost 3x as high for equivalent places.
>>21653157
That is what has me so conflicted. I put 40k in to get 10mn, 7 of which were after the big pump in 2020. Been thinking about another 10 but that's a decent bit of money if it's a flop at that point. I'm no whale so I would be sad to lose the 6btc. If it's a success I should be alright, but I'll be fucking myself in the butt with remote just like I am for not buying more link. Only put 20k in that. I could have easily doubled that and had a six figure stack.

>>21653818
Holy shit you're sitting on a lot of money.
I own 5 nodes in XSN, and not done accumulating, want 8-10, but it's getting real fucking expensive, so I might set my goal at 8 for now.

>>21653818
Consider what stakenet is building (not just a dex) and the current marketcap of 50mil.

I hope to one day be as delusionally innocent as you morans that think this won't go over $1b MC.
You must live such simple lives.

You retards are going to be so rich...

>>21653818
if this is a long term hold for you you'll be fine. dex fees plus other node enhancements will drive process higher long term, it's just not gonna happen overnight.

>>21654111
checked

>>21648103
You already own it. Nice try faggot. Stakenet is a scam or shitty vaporware at best.

Buy DMG.

Seriously, as a poorfag, you guys just seem ridiculously greedy.
Under $500mil resting trading volume is FUD. Those numbers will be a fucking joke by this time next year and very likely even in 2022 and beyond.

You guys seem insanely greedy.
You realize you'll make literal millions, maybe in to the tens of millions, with double digits MNs, right? Hell, you might get close to that with just five.

>>21654199
>>21655197
>tempering expectations is “greedy”
I’d rather plan for the worst and be pleasantly surprised with the best than plan for the best and be ruined by the worst

>>21655197
sure, but we're not seeing any of those rewards until hydra.

So yeah, volume could be great - but there's no guarantee we see that in the near future.

we're probably a year off from feasibly being able to expect hydra implementation. All the trading between now and then will feed xsn buy pressure, sure; however, the developers will be getting the dex fees in the near term, and will share in the limited hub beta network, so who's to say that they won't get fat off those rewards?

I quarter any meme chart expected returns. Taxes, more nodes entering, and reduces competitive trading fees. Is this reasonable?

How is this better than ren?

>>21655619
I usually just reduce by half instead of quarter it to account for more nodes and lower fees, though I don’t account for taxes when I do so. So yes, if you decide in your heart that paying taxes is the right thing to do, quarter it.

>>21655722
Blocknet and Reb 2 failures kek
Bring on the Blockcucks!

>10MNs already make 1k USD a month
Let that sink in.

>>21655197
I'm kind've upset that Anon told me 1MN was a make it stack, even if it's true. I could've gotten at least 5 back then

>>21655619
it's conservative, but tempering expectations is your job as an intelligent investor.

this is a unique opportunity and excellent timing. that doesn't guarantee a home run though, it just makes it somewhat more likely.

>>21656524

Yeah you fucked up.

It's still early tho.

I have 9.

>>21656605
It's insane that it was 2c not too long ago. I'd call 7-9 range more of a make it stack desu

The same 1 to 3 XSN NEETs have been drowning biz with drivel for well over 3 months now responding to each other’s posts and bumping threads when they reach page 8 or 9.

Anons this is a fucking DEX. They don’t have anything else built yet and by the time they do, they’ll be way late to the party - just look at how long it took to get this fucking LN shit built... and it’s STILL not even the intended MN-based product kek. $50M cap is a blessing for this shit... take it and move into something else more promising or stable. Kyber is the premier DEX in the DEX space and they’re a $300M cap. KMD is $95M and has a lot more going on that just being a fuggin DEX.

Having said that this shitcoin will do a 6x TOPS and shouldn’t even pass KMD for that matter meaning 2x tops. If you ask me though, i already think it’s probably 2-3x overvalued all things considered (community/product/listings/team size/budget/etc). Take my advice for what it is - I’m sure I’ll be drowned out with the typical XSN thread “cope” or “seething” responses or shitty memes, but these are data-backed facts.

>>21657048
you're ngmi sorry anon, we have to leave you behind.

>>21657048
tl;dr Blockeks on suicide watch

>>21648366
how hard is it to set that up in linux??

>>21656524
This is why you DYOR.

>>21657338
Don't know, the team in discord should be able to help you.

>>21657338
Super hard, you have to follow instructions step by step from a guide some dude wrote and use a command line interface.

>>21655197
Get a grip mate. That's not happening. I tried to tell people at the start that 1 wasn't enough but no, you all kept saying it's a make it stack. People are completely priced out of 10 or more now, unless they have money already. Wagies reading the threads at these prices won't be able to put in enough from their day jobs to get 10 or more nodes. Best you can do it take out an almighty loan, but this isn't the next link. There's not enough breadcrumbs and I wouldn't advise it.

>>21656524
I was posting regularly in the threads early on. From the first pump, telling people how one is never going to be make it stack. People said hurr durr there will never be more than 2500 nodes online (now we're close to 3000)... hurr durr the trading fees will never go down... dev's have already said it would. People on here follow the moonboy rhetoric so blindly sometimes.

I tried to tell you anon. But the shills for this are so heavy handed and anything you say that goes against $100 EOY SO BULLISH :D nets you with cope and seethe responses. The guys that reply with that, probably have 20 or more nodes lmao.

>>21657990
It's like 1000 link. It's enough LONG TERM. Most anons on here are poorfags. If they did their research they would have realised to buy as much as they can.

t. 11 Masternodes.

>>21648103
>I'm curious about this coin, very interesting coin sirs
>>21654111
>lol jk I'm already balls deep to the moon

You guys are fairly good at shilling. Unfortunate that its a shit project you spend your efforts on

>>21658083
Ha, I didn't even see OP did that. What a cunt. It's the same shills that make the threads all the time though, all the goddamn time. Hardly any new growth from /biz/ because the memes are weird and the anons aren't from around here.

>>21658006
Yup, 1 is suicide, 10 is make it.

>>21658142
I disagree, 100K makes you a whale and 10 nodes is 150k which I would say is fuck you money (long term, everything is always long term).

>>21658142
I do agree about the memes though, hopefully anons here start to realise the tech speak for itself and that cz is on suicide watch lately.