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my gf has schizophrenia and I'm making it in order to be able to provide for both of us

>> No.21911907

>>21911886
based

>> No.21911929

The ROI on your gf is going to be terrible. Please pull out your initial emotional investment now before you lose everything.

>t. schizo gf

>> No.21911948

>>21911886
simp

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You're pathetic but no cuck realizes this until it's too late. So whatever.
Pic rel is you

>> No.21911957

>>21911886
Schizophrenia isn't fun and it's based in bad genetics. Dump her.

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>>21911886
>I have schizophrenia and I'm making it in order to be able to provide for myself

>> No.21911985

>>21911886
trade it in for a non faulty model.

>> No.21912003

>>21911957
unfortunately this

>> No.21912030

You are a fucking idiot

>> No.21912040

>>21911886
based. hope you guys make it, and have a comfy countryside house

>> No.21912044

she's the best person there is and she's more easy going than all of the women I've been in serious relationships with
that being said she has a very hard time getting her shit together
I'm helping her in that department but I don't think there will be a miracle
so it motivated me to start day trading
i'm really close to making it maybe for life now
she's literally the reason behind my massive gains
and there were not easy gains. i was by no means early in crypto.

>> No.21912078

>>21912040
countryside is indeed what I'm aiming for !
thanks anon
you're based too

>> No.21912080

>>21912044
How long have you been together

>> No.21912090

>>21911886
What are her symptoms?

>> No.21912095

>>21912044
This is cute and wholesome anon.
Ignore the haters with gender psychosis.

>> No.21912100

>>21912044
What are some good coins

>> No.21912117

>>21911886
just get a better gf

>> No.21912136

>>21912044
You won’t listen so good luck to you, but if her schizophrenia is anywhere close to being as bad as mine then you’re fucked. I’m in my 30s and I can tell this is only going to get exponentially worse in the future. Hope you make a lot of money and I hope her situation is mild, and she’s willing to try medication.

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>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>> No.21912155

>>21912044
i hope you can hold it together anon, best of luck

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>>21912044
>she's more easy going than all of the women I've been in serious relationships with

Her condition makes her vulnerable and unusually dependent on you. This is why you like her. Reflect on this.

>> No.21912190

>>21912090
hardcore paranoia (but never directed toward me)
hearing voices (most of the time it's just random things though, she says)
really weird theories where she is guilty of something (can't go into details here)
always changing her mind about what she wants to do (very dramatic swings)
other specific stuff I can't tell for obvious reasons

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>>21912044
does she have feet?
post her feet.

>> No.21912225

>>21912136
she is on medication and she says it's helping her a lot
it does make her very tired sometimes. that's the main side effect.

>> No.21912298

>>21912190
>>21912225
iktf my wife is on the schizophrenic spectrum
How old are you two? You still didn't say how long you've been together.

>> No.21912333

>>21911886
she probably doesnt have shit and is just getting fucked up by some "doctor"

>> No.21912336

>>21912162
yes and no
i want her to have her own goals, her own ideas. she's working hard in that direction. I tell her the most independant she will be, the more I will love her.
but I also tell her that, financially, she can count on me if she has to. and right now she does.
for everything else, I encourage her to DYOR if you will.

>> No.21912351

>>21912298
2 years approx.
mid 20es.

>> No.21912370

>>21912190
you just described a normal woman

>> No.21912374

>>21911886
She’ll cheat on you. Get rich so u can leave her.

>> No.21912378

I just ended a 4 year relationship with a chronic anorexic. I love her so much but I am a shadow of myself psychologically. It takes some amount of patience to deal with a mentally ill woman and Ieventually ran out. Hardest thing I've ever done. Good luck anon but I'm not sure yoou will see a return on your investment. Whatever you do don't have a child with her.

>> No.21912391

>>21912225
I’m bipolar and started experiencing schizophrenic episodes in my early 20s. Not sure how old you guys are and god bless you for loving her that much but it can get progressively worse. I’ve been engaged three times to nice guys who eventually couldn’t take it anymore despite saying similar things as you are about her right now. Hope you know what you’re getting into. Medication might be a hurdle in the future though, depending on how bad her paranoia spikes.

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>>21911886
How’s the sex Anon ? Is she kinky as fuck?

>> No.21912413

>>21912190
is she on meds? im not memeing, asking as a fren. my uncle is paranoid schizo and is x100 worse since going off his meds

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>>21911886
if i was a girl, i would be your schizo gf too, anon.

>> No.21912455

>>21912333
that's what I thought at the beginning.
but my ideas on the matter changed a bit.
I still think the doctors kind of want her to be sick and part of the sickness is created by them.
but she is also just faces very big psychological/neurological challenges.

>> No.21912481

Plebs can't into schizophrenia
It's basically like not falling for propaganda and not giving a fuck about using words properly
The hallucinations are what other people dont see out of ignorance
The paranoia comes from knowing everyone thinks you're crazy
But in this world it's better to be crazy than a normie
Anyone who boasts about schizophrenia irl is a lost cause
We can spot each other in a minute akin to how psychopaths spot each other

>> No.21912485

>>21912044

Divorced fag here.

Just FYI if you're being serious and not larping.

The woman is literally an anchor who will drag you to the bottom of the ocean. And the longer you hold the anchor the deeper you will go. There is no "helping" her. Once you get past a certain age you realize that troubled women don't actually want help, they want support and sympathy as the continue to live a more and more dysfunctional life. Can't say I've seen a single exception to this in my entire life.

But hey stay with her and find out inside 2 years.

>> No.21912495

>>21912413
yes she is on 2 differents meds right now.
one is the latest generation of antipsychotic, the other is a more classic benzo

>> No.21912497

>>21911886
good on you anon make her happy. that's love.

>> No.21912519

>>21912190
This world is shit, so it's the world's fault and not hers. Would she like to move to farm or homestead? She could work with animals and crops and raise your kids. Maybe she would be happy there?

>> No.21912520

>>21912391
What are the episodes like?

>> No.21912525

>>21911886
you mean the three of you

>> No.21912537

>>21911886
>le noble white knight “were a team baby” redditor thinks his morals and principle will be reciprocated or even appreciated by his gf who isn’t schizo but just shit testing on expert mode
Ngmi

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>>21911886
based and wholesome. Good luck anon, you are good soul.

>> No.21912552

>>21911929
/thread

>> No.21912566

>>21912485
Yep. I managed 4 years of this shit You describe it very well. Do you have kids with her?

>> No.21912577

>>21912485
at what age did you divorce her? just seeing if I can relate

>> No.21912582

>>21911886
Ngmi
No self respect

>> No.21912584

>>21912481
TIL I have schizophrenia

>> No.21912601

>>21912485
she's made so much progress since we first met
she's also the kindest person I've ever met. not one hint of being evil in her. she's upfront about everything. she's even too honest most of the time.

>> No.21912613

>>21912410
I literally heard a scream when I saw that.

Am I gonna be ok...

>> No.21912622

>>21912584
It's just a label they throw on potential dissidents
It isnt shit. "Voices in your head"? The fuck that's called fucking thinking
Most anons would be classified as schizo
The fuck? It's just another useless word

>> No.21912638

>>21912485
>Once you get past a certain age you realize that troubled people don't actually want help, they want support and sympathy as the continue to live a more and more dysfunctional life.
FTFY don’t make it a gendered thing when it isn’t.

>> No.21912659

>>21912622
Amen anon

>> No.21912669

OP if your girlfriend talks about having schizo shes a lost cause and either doesnt have it or doesnt have any ability to use her human abilities to rise by herself
Shes not helpless, if she really has it shes much smarter than you and being lazy as fuck
I'd drop it like a bad habit

>> No.21912756

>>21911983
forgot to say :
based.

>> No.21912758

>>21912566

2 kids with my ex. She is completely financially incompetent. She is 40 years old and has less than $5k to her name.

It's my fault though. When you pick a wife you gotta check all the boxes. Being financially capable is a box you have to check.

There was beauty and other good qualities. But like I said, dysfunctional women don't want help. Trying to help them is like trying to help a dog learn sign language. Waste of time.

>> No.21912780

>>21912577
38

>> No.21912790

>>21912758
>There was beauty
Another retard makes a lifetime purchase based on a five-year attribute

>> No.21912796

>>21911886
does she post on biz all day?

>> No.21912836

>>21912796
no. she doesn't even know about 4chan.
she knows I trade, of course.

>> No.21912870

>>21912638

Can't do it man.

Over the years I have seen many troubled men turn a corner, get help, and eventually live a better and stronger life. I have generally found that most men want success and if some help comes along the way they can do very well. Not all though, some men are total fuckups no matter what.

However the sheer number of women I have seen, especially in marriages, who were complete and total fuckups that had husbands who relentlessly worked to be the stable provider and caring/helpful person is astounding. Can't tell you how many divorces I have seen play out in this fashion, and how many women ended up with free paychecks for a decade+

Look if you're a guy and you're pursuing a relationship with a dysfunctional woman the odds of them improving even slightly as your relationship progresses are about 1%

>> No.21912875

>>21912758
Same, mine was gorgeous and 11 years younger than me. We have a 10 month old (although I've asked for DNA) that she won't let me see since I ended it. An absolute fucking nightmare.

>> No.21912898

>>21912758
the problem is that women or men can be very functional and sucessful and still have 0 emotional/social intelligence

>> No.21912970

I remember in my Psych 101 class the professor talked about a local case where a schizo girl ran away from her fiancée and hitched a ride across state lines fucking and sucking every trucker who would give her a lift, eventually she ended up at one of the local loony bins with little recollection (or so she says) with a worried family that she hadn't talked to in a week. I bet that loser married her.

>> No.21912974

>>21912875

Realistically, if you can... here is the checklist

> pretty
> smart
> good sex
> you live together for at least 2 years before marriage
> financially capable
> has good friends with positive support going in both directions
> doesn't abuse drugs or alcohol
> cares about her health and physical appearance
> doesn't get into arguments that seemingly have no logic behind them whatsoever or rational conclusion that you can provide

Man you find that and you got a good woman. Rare.

>> No.21912993

>>21912875

Sucks dude. Join the club.

>> No.21913068

>>21912601

Ok well just do me this favor.

BEFORE putting a baby in her or marrying her, live together for 2 years. Just rent a place so you're not tied to a home purchase.

If 2 years pass and you are happy, then go for it.

>> No.21913086

>>21911957
I'm sorry, but I had a schizo girlfriend as well. It doesn't end well.

>> No.21913150

>>21911886

I'm the guy with a schizo wife, 5 years going strong. I hope you make it. The guys here wanting their woman to be independent are closet homos. Why would you want your woman to have their own goals? It's as if you want your woman to act more like a man. Faggots, all of you. My wife cleans, cooks, takes care of the house, our kid, and likes to get fucked.

>> No.21913167

>>21912481
shut up faggot
>It's basically like not falling for propaganda and not giving a fuck about using words properly
wow you misinterpret information and miscommunicate on purpose to feel cool
>The hallucinations are what other people dont see out of ignorance
you think so much about nothing that it hinders your day to day functioning
>But in this world it's better to be crazy than a normie
see above
>We can spot each other in a minute akin to how psychopaths spot each other
no you cant

>> No.21913169

>>21912520
I don’t know how to answer this because I see shit that isn’t there pretty much every day. A lot of it is mild like I hear voices calling my name or the phone ringing, and I have more or less learned to ignore the random shadows lurking in the corner of my vision. Sometimes it gets bad and my logic/way of thinking gets so bad that I can’t even explain why I did what I did except that it made sense at the time. Just a few weeks ago I was vomiting almost 4-5 times a day because I started drinking vinegar and it was messing with my stomach (felt cleansing and I was convinced some fungus was growing inside me). It’s maybe cute and tragic when she’s young, anon. But it just gets frightening and burdensome when she ages.

>> No.21913186

>>21911886
No she doesn't. Schizophrenia is crazy extremely rare in women.

>> No.21913222

>schizo gf
Anon, you’re the schizo, you have no gf

>> No.21913225

>>21913167
Retard

>> No.21913234

>>21912613
Kek what??

>> No.21913311

I dated a girl with Borderline Personality, total nightmare as she was plotting ways to have me imprisoned or killed for dumping her. I think she would have succeeded to had she not offer herself. Can I expect similar things if I date someone schizo?

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>>21911886
based

>> No.21913343

>>21913311
Borderlines worse

>> No.21913371

>>21913225
take your meds youre not smarter and you dont have superpowers youre just dysfunctional. get help.

>> No.21913390

>>21913150
I don't want her to see me as her daddy, that's not exciting to me -- at all. I know some people actually love that, I'm not one of them. Cooking and cleaning : we both do it.

>> No.21913402

>>21911886
Women cant be schizo

>> No.21913424

>>21912044

That was her father's job. Which he has failed more than likely of no fault of his own but her mother's. Damaged goods. Leave now.

>> No.21913430

>>21912190
Sooner or later it'll get worse and the voices in her head will tell her to slit your throat.

Run while you can.

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>>21911983
>

>> No.21913447

>>21913402
Lol. I'd love to be able to show you the facebook of a woman I know (not my gf)... You can tell she's schizo just by glancing at her feed.

>> No.21913506

You know they did trials on high doses of injected B vitamins and found a high recovery/improvement rate. Colloidal Gold in combination has a neural protective/regenerative effect. Do with that what you will OP.

>> No.21913564

>>21913447
Most women are into horoscopes and tarot cards anon. Shes not special

>> No.21913595

Most mental health is good old fashioned biblical demonization but the modern world can't wrap its head around it. I left the mental health profession when I became a Christian. Seems clear to me most mental health is spiritual in nature.

No fucking person can tell me why in depression and schizo etc it's always the same voice they hear saying to hurt themselves or others. No fucking synapse firing in the brain is ever gonna result in that shit. Trust me its demonic....

>> No.21913624

>>21912537
fuck the fake world of reddit
I hate reddit as much as you do
I'm just a successful biztard
I stopped posting on /pol/ long ago (pol is actually the most schizoid board I've seen and I'm convinced you can actually have schizo symptoms if you go there too often)

>> No.21913629

>>21913506
I did a medical review on these trials in Uni and they were not happy. Basically it threatens the mega industry and would require a whole reworking of the theories.

It is nothing more than a failure of the body to recycle adrenaline from adrenaline. It triple oxidizes into Adrenochrome and damages her brain. They use to say the brain couldn't regenerate, they were wrong. B vitamins and ATP production (promoted by exercise) rebalances the system. Then maintain during the slow process of neural repair.

>> No.21913632

you're the schizo anon.
you just don't know.

>> No.21913646

>>21913506
I'll check that out, thanks fren

>> No.21913651

>>21913595
Based

>> No.21913661

>>21911886
break up and get a non-broken GF pussy

>> No.21913679

>>21913595
Not false. It's one way to see it.
Hospitals do neglect the spiritual aspects of mental illness.

>> No.21913726

>>21911886
be careful anon. forget divorce rape, she may literally fucking kill you

>> No.21913730

>>21913679
Is she hot? Big milkers? Sounds like you're dating a retarded person.

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>>21912336
no matter how hard you try, she will never DYOR.

sucks tho bruh, i stg all the girls that are worth sticking your dick in more than once have fucking similar or worse probems.

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>>21913595
yeah well im depressed and I dont have any voices. sorry pops, prolly shouldn't given up the gig that paid the bills.

>> No.21913791

Depression is 90% of the time problems with inflammation in the brain. Taking anti-inflammatories like flax seed oil, tumeric, and lowering stress lead to long-term recovery.

Mental health is a joke.

>> No.21913798

Based of you OP. I also need to make it because I might be schizo. In deep on DIA rn

>> No.21913799

>>21913169
Sorry for my multiple questions, but I want to understand from your perspective what it is:

Do you meditate and have some form of communication with your subconscious (dreams, ideas, feelings, music in your head..)?
Is what's happening to you like a part of your subconscious taking over?
Do the voices who call you change each time, or are there a few similar voices you can recognize?
Did you try to communicate with these shadows?
Do they just appear passively or do they try to interact with you?
Do you feel a particular emotion when you see them like fear?
Did you live through a traumatic event which caused this to be worse or did you already have these symptoms as a child?
Do you think it's just something you imagine in your head or you can see something which is really there?
Did the shadows attach to other people and follow them?
Did you find some kind of pattern to what causes your reduced thinking ability and memory?

>> No.21913810

>>21913595

Ladies and gentlemen, the stupidest idea in the thread. Nice generalization and assumption RE everyone having the same voice, that's completely incorrect and 100% you suggesting it is. The redpill here is that religious people are the real schizos or they're the people thousands of years ago in the desert who were stupid enough to believe all the schizos, as well as all the people today who are still too stupid to realize how ridiculous it is

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>>21912601
they always do, and then one day out of nowhere all of that fucking progress is lost

>> No.21913823

>>21913791
I am bipolar, it's not a joke. I'm in my 40s and have had and lost 53 jobs in my life. I wish turmeric would cure me.

>> No.21913830

>>21913311

BPD is the worst. Truly a living hell.

>> No.21913833

>>21913811
Checked and yep. From fucking nowhere.

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>>21912622

#TYBG

>> No.21913875

>>21913830
Mine had anorexia, eubpd, ocd, ptsd and was a self harmer. It was great when it was great but it always went back to crazy. I have been destroyed mentally coping with it. I haven't left my house in months since breaking it off. I no longer trust anyone. I'm just focusing on becoming a millionnaire so maybe I can attract a gold digger instead of a loony tune.

>> No.21913888

>>21912044
dont save her, she dont wanna be saved

>> No.21913908

>>21912410
i'd dick both of them

>> No.21913911

>>21911886
I bet the sex is fucking wild bro.
Give us greentext of what it's like to fuck a schizo woman.
Does she see demons as she's slobbing on your knob?

>> No.21913920

>>21913823
Let me rephrase, mental health traditional treatment is a joke. Anti-inflammatories can help balance you out. But reversing bipolarism is a long and difficult process.

>> No.21913933

Boomer males really did not get the message that the purpose of raising a daughter is to give back to society by raising someone who will eventually be a good wife. Why?

>> No.21913954

>>21913920
I hear you. I'm doing ok, exercise helps a lot. Thanks for clarifying.

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Will autistic/schizo /biz/ babies be the future master race?

>> No.21914014

I have no clue why any guy would get with a mentally ill woman. My mom is ever-so-slightly mentally ill and I really hate it. It's very hard to put up with. I would rather spend the rest of my life alone than being immersed in that every day. You've got to be pretty low self-esteem or something, idk.
Thank god I'm a bit of a fag and don't care about sex too much. You guys are slaves to the pussy.

>> No.21914045

>>21913810
but they were mindful enough to not forget to write it down and bring a pen.

>> No.21914066

>>21914014
Pussy is worse than fentanyl

>> No.21914081

>>21911886
Let me guess, first gf?
Get out while you can. Don't get guilted into staying, and don't be stupid and think you're noble for staying either. Your gf is a coin and your investment is your life's happiness, and it will be on a constant downward trend until an inevitable crash. Cut your losses and move onto the next coin.

>> No.21914088

>>21912374
speaking from experience here, this

>> No.21914102

>>21913954
Just had a thought before I go, I know the chinese have had some apparent success in treating bipolar disorders. I wouldn't be relying on western medicine in this case since drugs do not provide a longterm solution only management. There are some great traditional chinese medical practitioners out there, who knows might be worth popping your head in to say hi and see what they say.

>> No.21914142 [DELETED] 

>>21913311


i have 2 "lovers" that i keep at a distance but still on good terms with because the only way i'm getting rid of them is to literally get rid of them, and i cant bring myself to do that.

The one who's still around claims shes bi-polar but her grandmother was institutionalized for being schizophrenic. She talks about it constantly, i'm fairly certain she realizes that she has it too. This one has tried to have me killed multiple times and called the police on me as well. Luckily everybody knows me as one of the most calm/rational people you could possibly meet... which desu im fairly certain is how i attract these women.

>> No.21914143

>>21911886
just meditate with her bro, make it a habit
schizophrenia wont matter

>> No.21914210

>>21913799
I do meditate, but not in the "om" feel connected with the universe sort of way. I see meditation as a way to strengthen my sense of "here", some new agers refer to it as being present. I don't dream often but when I do I have nightmares, usually involves a lot of violence which I don't understand since I don't watch graphic tv/movies.

>Is what's happening to you like a part of your subconscious taking over?
Clarify what you mean? If you're asking if I think I am acting/reacting in certain ways due to repressed thoughts/memories, no. Not at all. I think that either my brain is malfunctioning or that I am connecting to a universal consciousness/divinity.

The voices used to be family, then over the years became more foreign. I don't recognize them and I haven't made friends with anyone/anything. I try not to engage with what I know are hallucinations because I worry about strengthening certain neural nodes. I ignore as much of it as I can.

The shadows are mostly passive. When it's dark or when I used to drink/smoke weed I would sometimes be attacked. Very briefly though, like suddenly being pushed down the stairs or being stabbed. Sometimes though I get distorted vision, like shit is melting or I can't remember how to focus my eyes, like they're cameras I can't get control over. Same with sounds, sometimes everything is very muffled. I don't know how much of the "muffling" is bipolar though, very bad depressive episodes also feel very physical at times.

In the beginning there was a lot of fear, not so much anymore.

No trauma, no family history of mental illness. I have a great family. I didn't have any symptoms my parents are aware of, though starting with age 8-ish my parents would sometimes catch me sleep walking. I was loldepressed as a teenager but turns out it was the bipolar disorder. I actually didn't get diagnosed with bipolar or schizophrenia until I had a very bad episode in my senior year of college.

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>>21911983
You’re all going to make it

>> No.21914256

>>21912100
fuck off

>> No.21914286

>>21911886
Get out while you can. Otherwise you’ll experience a horror story that not even a MGTOW could imagine.

>> No.21914341

i live with my parents in a trialer and i need to make it so i can get a gf

>> No.21914351

>>21912090
She’s schizophrenic.

>> No.21914378

>>21914066

OMG so much worse

>> No.21914393

>>21912044
dated a girl with borderline personality disorder and hated (but kinda liked) every second of it. she was a fucking wreck, nothing would save that. wish you the best.
>haven't read any further down

>> No.21914396

>>21913799
I am mostly aware when I have hallucinations or start following a strange way of logic, but only because I started implementing "safety checks" in my life by sticking to a fairly strict routine. I do almost the same things every day. I keep a journal. So when I start deviating from my usual methods I know that something may be wrong. It gets tricky when I start getting paranoid that someone has started to "change" things (like moving my shit, or sometimes I get paranoid that someone else's handwriting is in my journal/planner).

No shadows attaching or flying about. It's more like, I see dark figures just on the periphery of my vision. Sometimes it's full on hallucinations, like I had an entire conversation with my father one time and then he walked into the room, and I was really confused about who was the real one.

I have bipolar so one definite pattern is that I tend to have schizo episodes when I'm manic. I can tell when I'm getting manic because I start sleeping less, like, way less (usually 2-4 hours a day). Other than that... not much of a pattern.

Look, I know you're trying to understand her to help her, and I really hope that her situation is manageable. But you do have to draw a line, esp if you want kids in the future. I hope you know that. I couldn't stop having these weird violent flashes of me butchering my future baby while cutting up some chicken and that's what finally led me to call of my last engagement. Also as someone older and (maybe) self aware, I think men are biologically hardwired to take care of women. And it's awfully romantic and sweet and all, but all of the, "I will love you and take care of you no matter what" should go out of the window with kids on the table. Hope I make sense.

>> No.21914404

>>21912870
This

>> No.21914443

>>21913830
>>21913311
wow cant believe other anons can relate, bpd is the most toxic personality disorder ever. manipulative, ups and downs, psychotic at times, then depressed, holy fuck what a fucking ride. makes you want to shove toothpicks into your eyesockets after a few months

>> No.21914470

>>21914443
Show tits.

>> No.21914482

>>21913875

Funny the details are wildly different but the core remains the same with many men. Since my divorce I'm just focused on raking in money and being good to my kids. Ex can go down the rabbit hole. And she will.

Same for many many men.

>> No.21914495

>>21913888

This guy gets it. Please anons let an old dog help you.

Women don't want help. They don't want to be saved. So don't ever try things that fall into this category.

>> No.21914501

>>21914470
Nigger I have a hairy chest, you wouldn't like to see them. BPD girls are legitimately fucking scary emotionally. Have a run at it and try for yourself

>> No.21914509

>>21914443
I don’t doubt that genuine cases are hellish but in the current year it’s a little too easy to claim shit like that for sympathy or preferential treatment. One chick I dicked for a while claimed to be bpd to get away with shit where she worked and despite being fairly insistent that she had it never demonstrated any significant symptoms around me. That said when I broke it off I did not leave a forwarding address if you get my meaning, but that’s usually just how I roll

>> No.21914533

>>21914482
Yep. I no longer care what happens to her but my (maybe) daughter is now stuck in her manipulative mental web. I'm going to get rich or go broke trying. I have to be there for her (if mine) to provide a normal view of life.

>> No.21914536

>>21913150
This is way too fucking based man

>> No.21914555

>>21912601
Anon she certainly great and does not deserve mental illness but you need to listen to what people on this thread are telling you. These problems will never go away, you will not fix her, it will not be a romantic healing process. If you intend on marrying or having children with this person, you will be carrying all of the weight and have no time to address your own issues (which will exist while helping a partner with mental illness). After years of (non malicious) neglect, you’ll freak the fuck out and breakdown man. Anyone who has dated someone with issues goes through this path. Don’t say we didn’t warn you

>> No.21914574

>>21914509
My ex demonstrated all of the symptoms, I literally had to seek therapy for it but I was 18 or 19. When I told the shrink what I'd been going through and she immediately knew what it was and related it with symptoms and anecdotal experiences, everything suddenly clicked. The sex was sloppy and literally primal but everything else was a fucking mess, I dont even want to get into it. I dont hate BPD people but I would never want to be involved personally with one again, it's a draining nightmare and you're the puppet attached to her strings.

>> No.21914588

>>21914501
Dated a nigger stripper with bpd/mpd. Can confirm.

>> No.21914616

>>21914533

If I can offer one tip.

The single biggest and most important thing you will do is spend time with your kids. Make money your second priority after that.

I could probably make another $20k per year if I focused more on work, but I make sure to give my kids 15 to 20 hours of my time every week.

>> No.21914619

>>21914555
posts like this are why I will never bring up my relationship in detail on /biz/, y’all ruin everything

>> No.21914622

>>21911886
Wholesome but sad.
You cant procreate with a schizo.

>> No.21914625

>>21914574
I’m genuinely sorry you had to go through that m8, for whatever that’s worth. Sticking your dick in crazy is always a risky proposition

>> No.21914645

>>21913875
Dated someone with the same shit and had to end it. Couldn’t keep up anymore. It’s fucking hell when everything is literally ideal but it all gets obliterated by mental issues every month or so. The psycho moments stick to your memory much more than the nice ones

>> No.21914655

>>21914619
This is one of the most wholesome threads I’ve seen in a while: pretty sure most of the people posting, aside from the odd shitty/tasteless joke, really do want to help. Perhaps you’re on the wrong site

>> No.21914691

>>21914616
Right now I cant see her. She filed domestic abuse charges. I will get a not guilty as they are lies I can prove wrong but courts are delayed due to rona, as is the dna testing. Haven't seen her in 4 months now and won't until at least the end of next month. I knew there would be repurcussions for ending it. I'm in this battle for the long haul.

>> No.21914707

>>21911886
without reading a single reply i already know 90% of this thread is retarded 30 year olds getting mad because they couldn't manage to support someone who was struggling in their own life and their only ego-preserving recourse was to blame the person with issues instead of looking inside and growing as a mentor

>> No.21914719

>>21914396

>I am mostly aware... I started implementing "safety checks"...when I start deviating from my usual methods I know that something may be wrong...

Thank you for writing this.

>>21911886 (OP)
If your girl isn't exactly like the girl were talking to, and making a SERIOUS ATTEMPT to get her shit together on her own. Not only is she not worth saving but shes 100% going to drag you down to hell with her.

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>>21914555

>> No.21914789

>>21911886
Lol cuck. She would never do the same for you, if you had any balls you would dump the hoe. Pathetic beta male.

>> No.21914790

>>21911957
Its not the genetics, its the upbringing, only 40% have a familial link and the traumatic upbringing is what causes it. Genetics is turning out to be a big womp womp, its a spiritual battle, bring that emotional bitch into logic anon.

>> No.21914809

>>21914707
Clearly you have never dealt with someone who has real issues.

>> No.21914851

>>21912485
This. They like being a victim because it brings them sympathy and attention. She will never change and OP is thinking with his dick. The weakness of man is woman.

>>21912601
We warned you. Don't forget this post.

>> No.21914863

>>21914790

no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.21914903

>>21912870
Fucking this

>> No.21914942

>>21911886
>>21911929
There all schizos

>> No.21914946

>>21914809
I have, and it is a lifelong battle. It's definitely not for everyone. But if you can't see why "dump em and get out" is an incredibly immature way to accomplish nothing except greater tragedy in the commons, you have a lot of learning to do about yourself and your responsibility to do good in the world. Yes, my life won't be ideal, I won't be as wealthy, or as successful, and yes I may have to endure a trauma or two along the way. But the alternative might be someone starving to death in the streets and hurting or killing a random person - it might be someone getting raped in an alley or forced to eat out of a trash can. I can give up an extra bedroom in my dream house to prevent that from happening to someone I care about.

Maybe it doesn't work - but that's always a risk, it's a risk for neurotypicals who could have a nervous breakdown or experience the onset of mental illness for any time, it's a risk for the best of us, who could be left in a vegetative state after an accident and lash out at those around them out of sheer persistent physical distress. There's risk in everything, a lot of people are either too young or sheltered to know that - dreaming of some ideal partner and white picket fence life.

That said, it's important to have the resources to do it. If OP were financially or mentally struggling themselves, then maybe, advocating for great distance would be appropriate. But it doesn't sound like he is, and that's a shitty assumption to make.

>> No.21914974

>>21912190
>hardcore paranoia (but never directed toward me)
give it time

>> No.21914982

>>21913222
what s twist

>> No.21914994

>>21914014
This. They need to overcome women.

>>21914066
The more stories I hear the more I think this is true. Sometimes I seriously thank God I am a virgin. I literally do not interact with women at all and I think my life is much better for it.

>> No.21915022

>>21911886
Suterusu fixes this. You can get her a whole new brain once (ReDactEd) comes.

>> No.21915090

>>21914994
>I literally do not interact with women at all and I think my life is much better for it.

sounds like you also need to overcome women

>> No.21915116

>>21914946
It's different when you're talking about a future life partner you want to have kids with. When you're a parent then your child should come first, no matter what. That doesn't mean buying them stupid presents or showing up to baseball games. It means doing whatever it takes to give them a solid inner foundation so they can grow up and be fruitful/happy. If you want to operate a charity, fine, but you absolutely need to be more discerning when the quality of life of your future children are at stake.

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>>21914707
Congrats on coming off as the biggest douchebag in the thread

>> No.21915178

>>21915090
Why would I interact with women? Honestly I do not see an upside to this.

>> No.21915188

>>21914946
>A trauma or two

Weekly cutting, sometimes her throat, sometimes her leggs, often her wrists, smashing bottles over her head, trying to jump out of a 4th floor window, having to restrain her as she repeatedly smashed her face into the floor knocking out a tooth, police kicking my door in constantly because she had taken overdoses, cheating, dissapearing for days and turning up with no idea of where she had been, no phone etc. Getting herself on heroin and getting gang raped and put out to prostitution, drinking heavily while pregnant, relapse on heroin while pregnant, it goes on and on and fucking on.

She had an eating disorder service, a cpn, a psychiatrist, a pstchologist and they couldn't help her, police could not control her when she was crazy, Ive seen her in leg straps, spit hood and handcuffs and they still couldn't get her in a van. Fuck yourself if you think a few traumas constitutes mental health issues, i agree with the general concensus. Women don't want to do the work needed, they know some simp will support them. You're the simp. i should have dumped her the first time she cut. Instead I have had a breakdown and ended up in psyche ward myself.

The difference is I am working to get back to where I was before her. She carries on regardles.

Sanctimonious fucking simp. Fuck you.

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>without reading a single reply i already know 90% of this thread is retarded 30 year olds getting mad because they couldn't manage to support someone who was struggling in their own life and their only ego-preserving recourse was to blame the person with issues instead of looking inside and growing as a mentor

>> No.21915242

>>21915116
I would consult with a medical professional and seek rigorous testing regarding the risk of passing the disorder along to my children, and closely regard my partner's behavior (schizophrenic or not.) I wouldn't make blanket judgments about (likely) behavioral diagnoses with criteria that change based on which culture you study, which decade you're in, or what standard you use, and I most certainly wouldn't do that on the basis of some nebulous values about "quality of life" I may or may not share with you. Even if the risk of passing it on were high, there are other options for raising children - including having separate living spaces in the event your significant other is incapable. If that's a sacrifice you're willing to make, I see that as laudable.

Do you not see the log in your own eye? Do you really think selfishness is a virtue to be passed to your children? Besides, diagnosed or not, there's so much else suboptimal about you that you'll never fix it all and if you went to seek help, you may well qualify for a mental health diagnosis yourself. You should probably start there.

>> No.21915253

>>21915188
You sound like you could use someone to talk to. I'm here. What are you up to these days? Doing any better?

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>>21914946
Boomers are the worst generation.

>> No.21915284

>>21912201
lost it

>> No.21915298

21915242
>talks about addressing the rod in his neighbour’s eye without attending the sanctimonious beam in his own
Sounds like you’ve still got some work to do yourself friend as, admittedly, do we all

>> No.21915314

>>21915253
I'm getting there. Started a couch to 5k, doing some dumbell lifting at home. Have started eating again and am working with my team, meditating, hillwalking and looking at ways to move forward. Slowly. I have PTSD from dealing with her. Anytime I hear anything about her I get adrenaline floods. I am learning to start exercising to burn it off. I will be fine.

>> No.21915328

>>21915298
That we do. What are you doing to better yourself today?

>> No.21915342

>>21915178
>I literally do not interact with women at all and I think my life is much better for it.

Because clearly you like women, otherwise you would have stated that rather than saying you believe its true and thank got you're a virgin. Deny it all you want, but you're just like OP. You're making excuses for yourself to be weak.

You have two options at this point in your life, you can go back to being a weak lil bitch, or you can take you own advice and overcome your fear of women

>> No.21915352

>>21915242
>you may well qualify for a mental health diagnosis yourself

This is me >>21913169

I know you're probably going to call larp but I'm unironically a bipolar schizo woman in her 30s. I would love to get married. I would love to have kids. But it is utterly irresponsible and selfish of me to do either of those things. Some people are simply not fit to be parents, but most are too selfish to accept it. So go fuck yourself.

>> No.21915365

I’m no longer feeding yous to sanctimonious cunts

>> No.21915372

>>21915314
Glad to hear it man, that sounds amazing. PTSD is rough, it can really hit you out of nowhere it seems. I used to struggle with reactivity myself, and I'm friends with a guy who has been diagnosed with it due to a troubled upbringing. Do you find the adrenaline spikes make you behave like your former partner?

I've noticed that people who come out of abusive relationships often struggle with reacting in the ways their abusive partner used to - which is obviously really unfortunate.

>> No.21915390

>>21915342
I obviously want to stick my dick in women, but I don't see the point of interacting with them beyond that. If you think having a longer term relationship or getting married to a woman in 2020 is a good idea, you have another thing coming.

>> No.21915408

>>21915352
Sorry you feel that way, but you know yourself better than I could. Hope things get better for you.

>> No.21915467

>>21912481
Kinda based and true, I’m schizotypal but unironically I must be high enough in IQ that after 20 I learned to hide it. A lot of it, like you said, is about language so when I studied Wittgenstein I just quote him after any of my (insane) rants freak some normie out (like talking about how causality isn’t real)

>> No.21915474

>>21915372
My PTSD is complex from severe child abuse, physical, psychological and sexual. I score a 9 on ACE testing. The difference is that I work on it because when I have issues i go to jail. I learned that earlly. When women have issues they get attention and support so they do notnhing to change. I also have EUBPD but before I met her I was completely able to monitor and balance my day to day. Since meeting her I have degenerated so far.

>> No.21915485

>>21915390
you need to try and connect in a more meaningfull way anon.

>> No.21915499

>>21912870
Based and true as fuck

>> No.21915520

>>21915390

honestly the only reason i care to have a longer term relationship with a women is for procreation.

If you're fine not being there for your children then I fully agree with you. Myself, i couldn't even think about doing that so relationships are a necessary evil.

>> No.21915532

>>21915474
Sorry you went through that, nobody deserves to be treated that way by the people who are supposed to protect them.

I could be mistaken but I think the nature of interpersonal disorders like EU/BP is that other people are often the cause of deep and lasting turmoil - usually the (admittedly few) people I've met with those disorders do well enough if they're left alone. No matter how much you've degenerated, I think it's great that you're putting in work to get back on track, that's especially hard without healthy influence from your parents. Out of curiosity, do you believe you could have a quality relationship if your partner were stable and had healthy boundaries?

>> No.21915554

>>21915520
I would love to have children, but they would be taken away from me by the sexist family courts that favor women something like 80% of the time. Plus I would be stuck as a financial stave for the next two decades paying child support.

>>21915485
But why?

>> No.21915679

>>21915532
I had a 13 year relationship that was stable before this one. 3 kids, bought a 4 bed house, kept a job and had hobbies and friends. When my abusive father was dying of cancer I went to visit him for the first time in 25 years, soon after I became depressed and after a few months of me not working she left with the kids. I was a mess when I met this latest one or I would have run a mile. I will have another relationship but not for some time. I need to grow strength and repair coping mechanisms first.

>> No.21915718

Teach her to code with the end goal of creating her own OS (including compiler).

>> No.21915884

>>21913791
based and turmeric pilled

>> No.21915923

>>21914256
>/biz/ - Business and Finance
kys tranny moralfag

>> No.21915940

>>21911886
Nice.

>> No.21916038

>>21915718

thats not a bad idea

>> No.21916266

/biz/ always has the best off-topic threads. But I thought you were all just incel losers like me? So why is everyone ITT talking about how they've spent years with multiple schizo women before breaking down?

>> No.21916294

>>21916266
Checked

you'll get there lad. I was an incel until I wasn't.

>> No.21916312

How did no one ask the important /biz question?

Is she asian?

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>>21914790
>only 40%
>only

>> No.21916361

>>21915718
god damn dude i miss him so much
they glow in the dark

>> No.21916370

>>21911886
She's gonna stab you in your sleep because she thinks you're a demon or something.

>> No.21916634

>>21911886
thats good hearted op. dont listen to the haters. your gf is probably extra thankful as shes a schizo, and less likely to cheat than other girls. the only mental illnesses you should avoid are cluster b disorder people, both gf and friends and family

>> No.21916645

>>21914707
accurate

>> No.21916664

>>21915188
yeah that soumds like a cluster b personality disorder, you should avoid those people

>> No.21916803

>>21911886
Does this mean that you're not real? Are you a figment of her delusions?

>> No.21916834

>>21916803
kek

>> No.21916889

Easy treatment for her condition is the primal diet. Eating high meat daily will stop all symptoms. Get a grip. Enjoy your life.

>> No.21916923

>>21916803
Wait until she thinks he's been replaced by an impostor and slits his throat

>> No.21916984

>>21916923
most schizo don't go too deep into their own delusion thanks to medication if they stop taking it is when you got problems

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>>21911886
>my gf has schizophrenia and I'm making it in order to be able to provide for both of us

>> No.21917028

>>21911886
So do i. I have never taken any medication. what's the point? Just get the standard and you'll be fine

>> No.21917087

>>21913595
T. Asylum janitor

>> No.21917470

>>21911886
Goodspeed anon.
Schizophrenia is no joke.

Being in the country side will help her improve for a while. Gets to them with the white noise, and being where there are alot of people, ect.

>> No.21917547

You stuck your dick in crazy. Never stick your dick in crazy Anon.

>> No.21917611

>>21917006
this

>> No.21917711

>>21911886
I was talking to someone about this, maybe a new thread convo? Can the Neurolink cure schizophrenia? If it does, Schizo's might be able to use their full IQ since their brains are in overload all the time with the voices, and delusions..
hmmmm

>> No.21917732

>>21916294
You have 3 kids and have been in multiple relationships I have trouble believing you were ever an incel. When'd you lose your virginity?

>> No.21917814

>>21917732
18 but i had incel anxiety and fear of women for years. it passed around 25

>> No.21917882

>>21914851
Just wanted to reaffirm this. Been married 10 years to a self proclaimed schizo / anxiety disorder girl. I went through the Mr. Fixit phase and the more attention and merit I gave these problems the worse they got. At some point I became really redpilled and stopped acknowledging it all together. She threw some fits for probably a month while I poker faced her tantrums and went on with my life. I would just go out and leave her home if she was acting paranoid. Somehow we also had the best sex during this month. Eventually she just learned that I'm only willing to tolerate a certain level of crazy. Now she even says outloud how she feels her schizophrenia is suddenly cured. Sometimes she will start to go off on paranoid ramblings and then crack a smile when I pokerface, as if I see right through it, which I honestly don't, her acting is very convincing and I'm only relying on mental discipline not to react to it.

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>>21911957
>Oh god noooo!
>you did not!
>I repeat!
>you did not!
>say GENETICS!?
>did you sweetie?
>educate yourself!
>there are NO genetics in [current year] you cis nazi scum!

>> No.21917919

To all guys, stop being arrogant and realize YOU CAN'T SAVE HER.

>> No.21917958

>>21915188
Your ex sounds like the typical INTJ

>> No.21917976

>>21917958
>Meyer briggs Test in 2020

The time scale between you and Meyer Briggs being an actual thing people cared about is the same time frame between Meyer Briggs and lobotomy being a thing people cared about

>> No.21917980

>>21915718
f

>> No.21918005

>>21917976
Have sex

>> No.21918024

>>21918005
Stop following ancient scientific theories from the 60s, you don’t buy your coins/stocks by looking at star constellation do you?

>> No.21918118

>>21916664
cluster-b is horrifying shitshow

>> No.21918193

>>21911886
Gtfo before u can bro. Schizophrenia isn’t fashionable at all.

>> No.21918420

>>21911886

is she behind the XRP threads?

>> No.21918532

>>21911886
I once dated someone bipolar and it was impossible (it's not schizophrenia I know). I read your initial post and was going to reply and tell you about it, and then I read some of your other posts.....all I'll say now is (at the risk of sounding like a retard) that you are a good person. You deserve to make it and I wish you and your gf every possible happiness.

>> No.21918571

>>21917814
I’m kind of the same except I haven’t lost my virginity. The incel anxiety seems to be fading off more and more every year (I’m in my early 20s). I’ve heard that girls have called me handsome despite being a manlet (5’7). I don’t really care I just want one good woman to start a family with honestly. I’ve watched too much porn for promiscious sex to evoke any sort of reaction in me except for disgust and existential dread.

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>> No.21918716

How much of a pathetic incel do you have to be to try and convince and anonymous person to break up with their partner?

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>>21912485
Also divorced fag here, made the fault of getting borderline pussy. Huge I repeat huge fault. They lock you in and then your fucked.

>> No.21918824

>>21911886
Captain Save a Hoe

>> No.21918848

>>21911886
you need some private oracle data OP?

>>21918709

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>>21918759