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22932756 No.22932756 [Reply] [Original]

Capital gains tax is coming brehs, we all know it. What do we with our gains?

>> No.22932779

>>22932756
just don't sell

ever

>> No.22932898

>>22932756
wait, does that mean we didn't have CG tax before? From what I understood we did

>> No.22933032

>>22932898
If trading isn't your profession and if you invest without speculation (hold longterm) you pay 0% on your capital gains when you sell your crypto or stocks. Now these globohomos will probably make selling your stocks or crypto a standardized taxable event.

>> No.22933043

>>22933032
fuck, can I cash out before that happens to not pay tax? I've got some big Link gains from holding 3 years. Never cashed out before btw.

>> No.22933156

>>22933043
Yes you can, first we will have to see what happens but it's not looking great.

>> No.22933383

>>22932756
Source?
Any of you ever paid taxes on crypto? I didn't lol

>> No.22933430

>>22933156
>>22933032
>>22932756
Where are you getting this from?

>> No.22933459

Fuck i was using this loophole to get rich by still being unemployed

>> No.22933465
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22933465

>>22933430
>>22933383
https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/premier-de-croo-we-zullen-de-sceptici-moeten-overtuigen/10254904

>> No.22933509

>>22933465
Plz post it in a normal language like french or english

>> No.22933553

>>22933465
>capital gains tax to meet the needs of healthcare

lolmao, I'm already paying 1k Euros every fucking month.
It's never enough, and on top of that they keep bringing more immigrants in to leech of welfare services.

>>22933509
It's over, walloon scum. Next elections we're going independent.

>> No.22933623

>>22933553
Joke's on you I'm domiciliated in flanders. Actually i can talk your language I just wanted to taunt you
But i'm pretty fucked by this, i had a nice set up to get 4-6€/month while still getting unemployement, guess all good things must come to an end

>> No.22933654

>>22933623
Last election VB + NVA was like 2% off from being the Flemish majority.
This Vivaldi shit will put us over 50%, and then vióla!

>> No.22933710

Actually i checked the report in french and there are no words about a capital gain tax. Guess it's my turn to get baited.

So, Op is a fag, as always

>>22933654
Good, as a Walloon I can tell you that wallonians need to get fucked. Who do you think I voted for ?

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22933738

>>22933710
>Good, as a Walloon I can tell you that wallonians need to get fucked. Who do you think I voted for ?
Extrèmement basé.

>> No.22933742

>>22933654
>viola

>> No.22933782

What kind of timeframe are we looking at? This shit will take ages to get approved, right?
And I didn't realise getting crypto gains tax free was actually realistic. I used this thing to work out my likely taxes and it seems to say that if you do anything but buy once and hold, you're paying 30%: https://mythra.be/en/bitcoin/

>> No.22933787

Wouldn't it be absolutely typical though for a liberal to implement a fucking capital gains tax?
They're supposed to be the party of the entrepreneur lmao

>> No.22933795

>>22933738
Nah wallonian clay was never flemish, don't push it too far Jan

>> No.22933818

>>22933782
They're only just barely thinking about formulating a proposal.
Still, the mere audacity alone is mind-blowing.

>>22933795
lol, half the Wallonian municipalities within 40km from the Flemish borders have Flemish names.

>> No.22933884

>unironically bickering about languages when your gains are being stolen away from you
economics > identity you mongs

>> No.22933900

>>22933818
You know languages are the borders tend to mix.

Old walloonian in Liège has some influence from german as well, but it has been french speaking since motherfucking Pépin le Bref

>> No.22933959

>>22933884
Lol I spotted then non-belgikman pleb.

You cannot dwelve deep into the philosophy of human societies if you didn't experience the communities struggle in Belgium.

So, let's get back to our far more important topic, which is the walloon dabbing on the flemish through gibs

>> No.22933966

>>22933818
half of Flemish is borrowed from other languages

>> No.22933967

>>22933900
>You know languages are the borders tend to mix.
Just learn the language of the place you move to.

>> No.22934018

>>22933967
Tell that to the 6th century peasantry then , Jan.

>> No.22934028

>>22933966
Wow, what a fact-based and meaningful statement.

>>22934018
The fuck is that even supposed to mean.

>> No.22934077

>>22934028
Learn about the origins of your own language then jesus Christ I lile flemish people but you sound worst than the laziest ignorant walloon

>> No.22934083

>>22933900
>Pépin le Bref
Pepin the Short?

Is this where "brief" meaning "short" comes from?

T. Amerifat who loves linguistics.

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22934108

>>22934077
I know about the origins of my language.
It's the language of the Franks who - starting with Clovis I - conquered Europe from their power base in Flanders.

>> No.22934137

>>22932756


>>22933782
Dafuq is this shit tool? It says 30% even if you hold for years and don't trade.
Seriously are you guys paying 30% on crypto/trading? If so then exit all and buy stocks it's only like 1 or 2% what's even the point if you give away 1/3 of your gains

>> No.22934138

>>22934083
Exactly, it comes from a latin word actually. We're still being influenced by a 2000 years old civilization, isn't that amazing ?

You know one thing that has barely no influence on the world ? The flemish language

>> No.22934158

>>22934083
Yes.
Although Pepin himself spoke the ancestor of modern Flemish, so he would've known himself as something like "Pepijn den korten".

>> No.22934165

>>22934137
Time to escape scam this country

>> No.22934211

>>22934083
yes
>>22933710
>It looks like the government-De Croo will make a proposition around capital gains tax.
'The government will strive for a fair contribution from those people who have the greatest ability to contribute, with respect for entrepreneurship. This contribution will be part of the efforts needed in the current health context and healthcare needs. A proposal will be submitted at the next budgetary audit ', is what the provisional version of the coalition agreement reads literally.

>> No.22934227

>>22934158
They spoke both old german and the latin-gallic mixed language that became french (and latin ofc)

>> No.22934234

>>22934165
Best eu Country to escape ? I'm thinking Spain.
Anyone else spending crypto through cards like mco or swipe? Should we really expect Belgian gov to find out and send us the bill at some point? Idk it seems far fetched. I'm in crypto since 2014, made a million and never paid taxes. But it also never touched my bank account back. At least nothing more than few dozen k

>> No.22934282

>>22934138
if we're equating french to latin then dutch is a germanic language. Your precious Western Roman Empire was literally beaten by these germanic people, and it's the germanic and anglo-saxic that rule the world today.

>> No.22934309

>>22934234
I don't know man, I don't think there will be anywhere to go soon.

I was planning on making a business and asking to be paid in gold and silver coins, thus enabling me to avoid to report everything. I even thought about reporting only the face value of the coins, but my lawyer said they already tought about thay possibility and force you to report the metal in market's value term.

There is no escape if they end up banning cash as well

>> No.22934329

>>22934137
That tool is a joke and nothing but a dataminer. I pay 0%.

>> No.22934344

>>22934282
I still cry about it at night.

Actually, lot of military words come from german in French, because those are the words that were used during the barbarian invasion (they became the noble and warrior classes afterwords), thus my previous remark about languages being influenced by the neighbours

>> No.22934361

>>22934329
I bought all my LINK in british currency since I've been doing a phd in UK for the past 3 years. Any idea if I need to pay UK or Belgian tax if I do cash out?

>> No.22934366

>>22934227
>old german
This is cope.
Clovis for instance was from the area that roughly later became the county of Flanders.
He spoke the DIRECT ancestor to modern Flemish.

>and the latin-gallic mixed language that became french (and latin ofc)
Sure but their main language was the Germanic ancestor to Flemish; hence the strictly Germanic names of their children.

>> No.22934380

>>22934366
>"Flemish has a lot of historic relevance !"

Yeah yeah yeah

>> No.22934387

>>22934344
For monthly gain maybe it will be hard. But for capital you can always park it abroad its no problem. I also have capital on exchange since... Idk at least 5 years lol. I kinda use it as a bank and I never had any issue, never reported it. Ofc I expose myself to hack and maybe one day they'll knock on my door but in theory Usdt is still crypto and if I don't sell it to euro I don't have to pay taxes

>> No.22934400

>>22934380
Well "France" is called that because a proto-Fleming conquered it and named it after his tribe: the Franks.

>> No.22934414

>>22934137
>>22934329
It seemed pretty legit since it's an actual office of tax lawyers with crypto experience, but I guess they're being super cautious and their main goal is to get people to come in for consultations. I'm just paranoid about this shit because I've been raped by Belgian taxes before and my accountant doesn't have a fucking clue about crypto.
But what you're saying is you can definitely get it tax free if you're not trading professionally, and you have personally done this, right?

>> No.22934426

>>22934400
Didn't say otherwise, and the language adapted to receive this germanic influence as previously said

>> No.22934456

>>22934400
>>22934426
Oof I tought I read proto-germanic. Proto-flemish lmfao this is textbook massive cope if I've ever seen any. Franks came north-east of the batavians so nowhere near flanders Jan

>> No.22934471

I wish France and Netherlands ended existence of this country and absorbed territories.

>> No.22934496

>>22934471
I'd rather be congolese than french, thank you very much

>> No.22934556
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22934556

>>22934456
Well what's the problem?

See pic, the yellow area is the original dominion of Clovis I, and it roughly corresponds with what would soon after become the "county of Flanders".
The language he spoke is the DIRECT ancestor to modern Flemish.

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>>22934456
Franks are literally the direct ancestors of the flemings in particular tho

>> No.22934614

>>22934556
>Show a map of 9th century
>Frank emigrated in the 4th century

Try again Jan. But thank you for your remark about the Franks being a proto-flemish tribe, I will remember it and repeat it in society when I want to get everyone to laugh about flemish coping for being historycels

>> No.22934647

>>22934614
That map is from the 5th century.
Before Clovis conquered modern France.

>your remark about the Franks being a proto-flemish tribe
Do tell me in what way this remark is incorrect.

>> No.22934652

>>22934471
Fuck the Netherlands, and fuck the French.

>> No.22934666

>>22934601
Stop coping, franks are a germanic tribes that evolded to be modern french, flemish were from a different germanic tribes (franks + bataves) so you cannot claim "direct ancestorship". Stop listening to vb propaganda

>> No.22934698

>>22934666
I might add, franks invaved France and became the elite throught force, but the french people were stiol mainly gallic. So modern french would be like a mix between gallic and franks (and latins as well I guess)

>> No.22934747

>>22934666
>Flemish weren't Franks
Oh my, such delicious cope.

See pic in >>22934556
The yellow part is the dominion of Clovis before he expanded into "France" and conquered it.

This yellow part soon after became the "county of Flanders".
In other words: Clovis' "home country" was proto-Flanders.

>> No.22934751

>>22934666
>franks are a germanic tribes that evolded to be modern french
lol, absolutely not. The word "frank" still exists today in dutch it means "straightforward, true, brave". You don't even have a proper translation for it in french.

>> No.22934793

>>22934698
>I might add, franks invaved France and became the elite throught force, but the french people were stiol mainly gallic
So you admit it yourself.
French is a latin language man, the people that speak it are not germanics (which the franks are) but cucks that bent the knee to the roman empire.

>> No.22934800

>>22934414
Yes you just need to prove you don't speculate of you are ever audited, just keep a log of your transactions to prove where the value came from and that you are following the good housefather principle.

>> No.22934880

>>22934747
>>22934751

I'm going to explain one last time for the northern brainlets.

"Humans share a common ancestor with monkeys so therefore all modern monkeys originated from humans"
Is the same as
"Flemish share a common ancestor with french so therefor all modern french originated from flemish"

Flemish became flemish due to the local mix of germanic tribes. French became french due to the local mix of germanic, gallic tribes and the few latin settlers.

So no, Jan, flemish have no historical claim on anything related to the french, besides a common ancestor. You still should be proud or being somewhat linked to ancient rome.

Ps : i wouldn't make the bold claim of being able to differentiate the monkey brain from the flemish one

>> No.22934906

>>22934880
language tells you exactly what you need to know about how mixed a certain culture and its line to ancestors is, keep coping by ignoring language.

>> No.22934940

>>22934880
Not reading all your cope.

Clovis I started the Frankish expansion that would dominate Europe to this day (nearly all European royal and noble families since then have been Frankish).

Clovis I was a proto-Fleming.
His dominion was proto-Flanders.
His language was proto-Flemish.

>> No.22934954

>>22934793
Gallic people embraced latin culture and the language as well, but still remained a different people. You can go to France and to italy and see the difference in people for yourself (not talking about our new boat people friends).

I don't even think we have any gallic word left in the french language, sad. Many such cases ! (Not having a written system surely didn't help)

>> No.22934966

>>22934954
>>22934880

Nobody's saying the French are genetically 100% Franks you dope.

>> No.22934990

>>22934940
>"I shut my ears to your arguments, and shout :"VLANDEREN AETERNA", just like Julius Ceasar, who in fact was called Johan de Kaeser!

>> No.22935030

>>22934793
>>22934966
The first one needee an explanation about french speaking a latin language while not being a latin people

>> No.22935042

>>22934990
Clovis I was a proto-Fleming.
His dominion was proto-Flanders.
His language was proto-Flemish.

>> No.22935083

>>22935042
>"Thus, Charlemagne was a Flemish king, unificator of all Europe under our most relevant history !"

>> No.22935112

Quit talking about language, faggots. Given history and timeframes is it realistic this new tax could get to Cuckbelgistan before 2024?

>> No.22935134

>>22934954
>Gallic people embraced latin culture
that's a funny way of saying the latins fucked the french women and told their kids to speak latin.
Obviously there is mixing in all cases but language is the big clue to the degree of mixing. No father tells their own children to abandon their birth language.

>> No.22935141

>>22935083
Clovis I conquered France, which paved the way for his successor Charlemagne to conquer Germany.

Clovis I's original power base was proto-Flanders.

>> No.22935142

>>22935112
I hope the NVA, VB or PS will do their job and torpedo this formation already

>> No.22935167

>>22935112
>>22935142
Agree with the walloon here.

>> No.22935198

>>22935141
Witnessed and screenshotted, this is amazing

>>22935134
Actually they recognized they lived like barbarians and latins brought them civilisation. Didn't mean it was a quick or peaceful transition, they try to revolt and it's estimated that 1 millions gallics were killer and 1 millions were enslaved due to that rebellion, which at that time would be a massive chunk of the population.
>"They bend the knee !"
Sure they did, not in a dishonourable way, after having fought and lost and tought about what they had to gain. Unlikrbuss, who bend the knee to the banks without even a protest. Our genrations will go down in history as the voluntary slaves, the true cucks of them all

>> No.22935215
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22935215

>>22935198
>Witnessed and screenshotted, this is amazing
Cope.

>> No.22935220

>>22935198
Unlike us* jesus phone posting is cancerous

>> No.22935244

>>22935215
>County of flanders (9th century)

See my post about humans and monkeys

>> No.22935339

>>22935244
That area was known as "Flanders" since the 6th century.
Start coping any time.

>> No.22935399

>>22935339
Don't worry I'm not coping. If you want to go down that road, Pépin II was born in Herstal, near Liège, thus Charlemagne is a Wallonian. See how stupid that statement is ?

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22935412

>>22935198
>Unlikrbuss, who bend the knee to the banks without even a protest. Our genrations will go down in history as the voluntary slaves, the true cucks of them all
it's not over yet

>> No.22935436

>>22935412
I'm pretty blackpilled friends. They won this round.

Look at this thread : neighbours against neighbours, north against south, poor against rich, east against west, black against white, and the banks left unchallenged.

>> No.22935451

>>22934800
>you just need to prove you don't speculate
Ha. Hahaha.
Yes, I'm holding these extremely volatile assets because I think they'll be long-term investments.
But for real, there's no time frame on this, like the one-year limit in Germany, right? I don't need to hold off on selling at a high point just because I've only been holding that coin for a short time?

>> No.22935456

>>22935399
>If you want to go down that road, Pépin II was born in Herstal, near Liège, thus Charlemagne is a Wallonian
No, because Pepin II was born in the Frankish empire.
While Clovis I was born in a small area that roughly retained its shape for over a millennium.

And the language of this area developed into modern Flemish (more specifically West-Flemish).

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Are they seriously using corona as an excuse for even MORE taxes?
Fucking hell.

>> No.22935485
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22935485

>>22935436
meh, it's always been like this. When shit gets real we will pull through. Until then we wait.

>> No.22935525

>>22935456
Flemish relevance in history is due to you rebelling against bigger foe than you were all throught the end of the middle ages to 1830, and only because you didn't like tax. This is who you are, what people respect you for. Yet you bickers about claming relevance two millenias ago, but for what reasons ? Oh, I know : because now you don't dare to rebel against the taxes anymore, so you invent yourselr a new identity who let you fight easiers foes, like my wallonian tribesman.

Embrace who you are, there's a lot to be proud of

>> No.22935546

>>22935525
>Yet you bickers about claming relevance two millenias ago
I'm simply saying the language spoken by Clovis I was the direct ancestor to modern (West-) Flemish.

>> No.22935579

>>22935525
And, who profits from flemish hating walloons ?

>We went from 13 ministers to 67 in 3 generations
>Standards of living decreasing in 3 generations

>"Let's listen to our wise politicians and financial advisors and blame the walloons !"

>> No.22935590

>>22934361
The currency you bought it with is not a factor, its which country you are domiciled in for tax purposes when you cash your gains. Sounds like the UK.

>> No.22935604

>>22935546
Replace flemish with german and you have my full support dear sir

>> No.22935625

>>22935579
The way the country is set up now allows for such atrocities as our governmental system (3 fully-fledged governments ffs), and Walloon leaching.
We need to split up.

>>22935604
>Replace flemish with german
This is cope. A result of being raised among a people haboring a completely deluded anti-Flemish sentiment.

>> No.22935630

>>22935525
buddy, part of the reason the tax is so high is to support this walloonian tribesman
but don't worry we know who the real enemy is.

>> No.22935689

>>22935630
>>22935625
Trust me, all the problems come from people who profits from this divide.

"It's all the walloonian faults " - t.flemish politicus
"All the flemish are nazys" - t.walloon politicus

"Let's open more jobs for oursel... I mean, for a fair representation of the people" t.the true leeches, the politicus

>> No.22935735

>>22935689
>"It's all the walloonian faults " - t.flemish politicus
Well to be fair the Walloons keep voting to maintain this horrendous situation.

But regardless of who is actually to blame for the current situation, it is time to end it.
Thankfully this sort of thing eventually resolves itself, and blocking out nearly 50% of Flemish voters with this Vivaldi shit likely just sealed the deal.

>> No.22935739

>>22935689
"We'll give you loans to finance all those social programms, make sure to tax them enough so they never get enough money to not work for us... I mean, participate in this wise societal system !"

>> No.22935794

>>22935735
Even bigger laugh than Charlemagne being related to the modern flemish man, is ti believe your situation will improve when we split (i have no opinion about the split btw).

>Father, before you die, tell me... how come our two salaries cannot even afford a one bedroom appartement anymore ? Why didn't you do anything ?
>Son, at least the Walloons don't leach us no more......*Beeeeeeeeeeeep*

>> No.22935856

>>22932756
>Capital gains tax is coming
I have only crypto and crypto according to my accountant is not a “good father” investment so it was already taxed for large sums and huge gains
Anyway, 2022 I’m out of this socialist shithole

>> No.22935928

>>22935630
I'll tell you why we leach btw, because I was guilty of it :

>Study hard as balls stem degree, get bachelor + masters
>Work 50h weeks
>1950€ after tax but before Jizyah
>Get fired because you're expandable
>Unemployement comes
>1780€ every month to do whatever the fuck you want

But it's true, we are a devilish people

>> No.22935957

>>22935856
To where?
I think I'm gonna do the same.
Baltics seem nice.

>> No.22936050

>>22935957
somewhere sunny with a nice beach
I had enough rain

>> No.22936115

>>22936050
I was thinking of moving to Spain, even had a gf there but with Corona and long distance we split up. Now I don't know anymore, I might just stay in UK. The situation in Spain seems equally bad desu, half the youth in that country is commies and half is francists.

>> No.22936118

>>22935042
>Clovis I was a proto-Fleming.
>His dominion was proto-Flanders.
>His language was proto-Flemish.
Clovis was born in Tournai, Wallonia.

>> No.22936124

>>22935856
How did you get fucked by Belgian taxes?

>> No.22936165

>>22936118
>Tournai, Wallonia
lmao, Doornik was part of the county of Flanders for centuries.
Clovis I was a Frank, a Germanic tribal leader.

>> No.22936178

>>22936115
You're the flemish guy in Wales with the erasmus spanish gf ? Shit I've read you before on a "where to go after you make it" topic

I was thinking moving to Scandinavia, middle sized city, get a huge ass house in the wood and never come back in the world again

>> No.22936214

>>22936165
>Replying to bait about bickers

>Not replying to my strong points about your situation being fucked with or without us

Yep, I'm thinking you're a typical VB voter

>> No.22936239

>>22936214
>Flanders
>fucked without Wallonia
Because of mudslimes, sure.

>> No.22936344

>>22936239
>Antwerppen in flames
>Poverty reaches 99%

WE WUZ CHARLEMAGNE N SHIIIET

>> No.22936415

>>22933043
>he held when it hit 19
I'm so sorry brew.

>> No.22936489

>>22936344
Even worse is Charlemagne's grandfather, Charles Martel.
He single-handedly saved Europe from Islam (except Spain), and now we're just letting them take over.

>> No.22936547

>>22936489
You don't get it.

It's not about us or them, it's about people who profit from this.

The brainlet answer is the politicians. The enlighted answer is the banks.

And before anyone does a muh jews on me, they're not all jews, Isaac your local grocery shop owner isn't responsible for it

>> No.22936593

>>22936547
Usury is illegal in Islam though, as are Jews.

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22936754

>>22936593
Who opened the gates Moishe?

>> No.22936907

>>22936165
>WEWUZ FRANKISH KANGZ N SHIET
I swear Flemish identitarians sound like afrocentrists

>> No.22936956

>>22936907
It's a simple fact that Clovis I spoke proto-Flemish, and that his original base of power soon after became known as Flanders.

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>>22932756
>Belgium
>It's over
God is real after all!

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>>22936754

>> No.22936989
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>>22936979

>> No.22937029

>>22932756
From what I understood from other posts you guys didn't have CG taxes so if I held my linkies I could pay 0% taxes if I move to Belgium? I'm French so it's a train ride from here.

>> No.22937054

>>22937029
You're taxed where you live so you need your main residence to be in Be

>>22936979
Haha nice one

>> No.22937096

>>22937054
>You're taxed where you live so you need your main residence to be in Be
Yes I meant moving to Belgium, shit if I don't pay the 3x% taxes I could buy an appartment in Brussels with only what I would pay in taxes here.

>> No.22937114

>>22937096
Good luck with the 13% tax on buying a property tho, and good luck with the land tax, and the...

>> No.22937154

>>22937114
kek for a moment there I thought I could escape the long nose man.
Well I still need an alternative, maybe I'll go cash out in Portugal, there is 0 chance I'm giving my link gains to the jews to pay for some nigger's welfare... I'd rather not sell at all even at 1000$ if it's just to pay taxes, even willing to move to Hong Kong or Singapore for that.

>> No.22937218

>>22932756
I thought you wurstcucks even had non-realized gains taxed

>> No.22937295

>>22937154
Most ppl say ill just go here or there. You can't. The only way is find a job in said country or Mary a girl there. And then it will still take years until you are considered like a citizen and can pay all your taxes and stuff there.

Best if you want to avoid is find some experienced banker from Luxembourg or something that can open an account for you abroad with a shell company

>> No.22937352

>>22937154
Figure out asap how to cash your crypto out. You're guilty of lazyness if you don't know it yet; the exit should be he first thing to think about. Do it my baguette french and really fast.

>> No.22937663

>>22937352
hey jean-pierre van de waal, how do you see the future of wallonia and how do you think it should be ideally?

>> No.22937893

>>22932756
good now im less jelly for tintins

>> No.22938511

>>22937295
Yeah I know you pay the taxes on the country you're in, but normally if you just go to Portugal and cash out then they'll probably inform the tax authorities in France, but if I just refuse to pay the taxes in France then I can just stay in Belgium and spend my money. Will they send Interpol and mimie mathy after me?
Also when it's time to cash out I'll just sell for usdt then figure out how to cash out to eur in calm.
My opinion is that you guys think about this too hard, there was a britbong here a few months ago who said he just moved to Portugal and cashed out, plus portugal and belgium have investment visas there, in portugal you can buy a house for 500k eur and get citizenship after 5 years, in belgium you have to invest 500k eur in some Belge company (just buy the safest stonks) and get citizenship after 5 years.
Plus there are the carribbean countries selling citizenships for 100k$, I think dominica and saint kitts and nevis do this, I doubt they'll jew you to your original country if you cash out there, plus you get to live on some dominican beach and fuck the local black pussy, probably get a new name with the new passport, then come back to France and buy a house with the new name or some James Bond scheme.

>> No.22938597

Ruling opgemaakt en opgestuurd naar dienst voorafgaande beslissingen. In 2017 tot 19 link gekocht en staan nu 600 dagen op een cold wallet. Boekhouder zegt belastingsvrij. Ik houdt jullie op de hoogte.

>> No.22938647

>>22938597
Is Flamand just Dutch? too lazy to google it but it sounds like dutch, but I don't speak dutch so I don't know, they just have the same retarded way about them.

>> No.22938687

Venez en France les wallons, pour l'instant les taxes cryptos sont pas si mal

>> No.22939366

>>22938687
30% c'est pas si mal ? Garde ta baguette

>> No.22939706

>>22938597
19k bedoel je?

>> No.22939755

>>22938647
Yup.

>>22939706
Neen, tot 2019. Heb mijn link gesplitst in 2 wallets en 1 daarvan aangegeven en een ruling voor gevraagd. Gaat over 12k link ongeveer

>> No.22940076

>>22939755
ok had verkeerd gelezen, welke boekhouder was het? iemand die je gemakkelijk vindt via het internet? (fiscaal advocaat en dergelijke). Hoeveel moet je betalen om een ruling in te dienen?

>> No.22940985

>>22940076
Toeval wil dat een vriendin van mij werkt op een erg goed boekhoudkantoor en haar baas regelmatig overlegt met die dienst. Kost weet ik nog niet. Maar niet zo veel uit als het om zoveel geld draait

>> No.22941853

>>22937663
Grim, not because of the people but because of the politicians.

Getting rid of this multi level political system non sense and getting back to a a single list nation-wise. You have to speak both french and flemish in order to access higher education and to work as a state worker. That would be my ideal world

>> No.22942380

>>22940985
waarom wacht je niet op staking bro?

>> No.22942451

>>22942380
godverdomme ik heb het al tot hier met die stakingen van de treinen en nu vertel je me dat Sergey ook gaat staken?

>> No.22942645
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22942645

>>22942380
Denken dat een coin beveiligd wordt door 'staking', waarbij een hoop internetdweebs op een lage prijs hebben ingekocht, maar voor de rest weinig extra risico namen. Tegenover het gigantische risico van honderden miljoenen pompen in mining om je coin te beveiligen, wat bovendien danig meer bewijst dat je naast financiële ook intellectuele inspanningen hebt verricht. Onzichtbare verantwoordelijken bij staking, wat totaal geen vertrouwen opwekt bij buitenstaanders, versus publieke mining figuren, wat vertrouwen opwekt wegens een gezicht erop kunnen plakken en meer riskante financiële verbindingen. "Hur dur laat ik dit communistische model genaamd staking vertrouwen in een wereld die jaar na jaar meer richting hypercapitalisme groeit."
>Gaat Het Nooit Halen

>> No.22942670

>>22942451
haha

>> No.22942704
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22942704

>>22942645
ik ga all in xmr. staking is voor plebs.

>> No.22942853

>>22942645
>hij snapt niet dat mining nu basically China is
>muh electriciteit (hint: das gewoon een andere vorm van geld)
>muh publieke mining figuren
>hij gelooft nog altijd in merk-gebaseerde garanties
Leeman brothers had ook een gezicht erop geplakt

Maar het grappigste is dat je denkt dat de waarde van LINK berust op het risico dat je ervoor nam om het te kopen, of dat de moeite voor een coin het waarde geeft (veel BTC idioten maken deze fout)

Waarde heeft niks met moeite te maken, anders zouden kind-arbeiders die 24/7 werken in Afrika meer betaald krijgen.

De waarde van LINK komt van het feit dat de oracles u geen data geven tenzij ge hen met LINK betaalt, idioot.

>> No.22942860

>>22941853
I agree that the overburdened bureaucracy/system should be control-demolished in Wallonia.
I don't agree with the mandatory bilinguism, but I would impose a second language very early in the education.

>> No.22943028

>>22942853
link is overpriced en dom.

sergey heeft 650 miljoen LINK.

enjoy de dump.

plebian.

>> No.22943178

>>22942380
Doe ik, ik wil gewoon een deel vrij hebben om rond 50€ te stoppen met werken en de rest staken. 15k staken en 3 LP moet wel voldoende zijn denk ik.

>> No.22943180
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22943180

>>22942704
Zit ook vol flaws. Bottom line is dat mensen met een ruggegraat XMR niet gaan aanvaarden en dat is nu eenmaal voor de voorzienbare toekomst de samenstelling van de Westerse wereld. Ge moet u nekeer de vraag stellen welk specifiek aspect van BSV voor u persoonlijk niet acceptabel is. Ik heb al gemerkt dat alleen echt criminele figuren nood hebben aan de verduisteringsmethoden van XMR. Het licht dat de transparante blockchain van BSV beschijnt, werkt in beiden richtingen. Dus ook richting parasitaire overheden. Echter, als ge het eindscenario bekijkt, en de tussenoplossingen als de noodzakelijke groeipijnen beschouwt die ze werkelijk zijn, dan eindigt elke logische eindconclusie in het kamp van BSV. Tenzij ge een crimineel bent natuurlijk, maar ik weiger te geloven dat iedere 'investeerder' in alternatieven voor BitCoin dat is. Een groot percentage van hen is naïef of slecht ingelicht.
Investeren volgens het exclusionaire aspect is zeer efficiënt: zoek uit welke flaw een coin heeft om hem te excluden, zo kunt ge snel veel grond bestrijken. Eén major flaw is genoeg. Was onlangs nog in een podcast van nieuwe BSV-proponent John Pitts, die investeert ook volgens dat principe. Ik deed dat ook al, maar plakte voordien op die methode geen naam. BSV heeft geen zwakke plekken als protocol: zero. Easy choice. Volgende bullrun gaat alles omhoog, dus incompetentie wordt mogelijk nog niet immens bestraft. Maar intern kan het maken van verkeerde keuzes in tussentijd wel het groeien van een tumor stimuleren.

>> No.22943374

>>22943180
Nederlandse BSVJEET pls go.

Faketoshi is een een leugenaar and CraigVisionMunt is kut. Je word geneukd door Calvin en de BSVscamjeets

>> No.22943400
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22943400

>>22943180
>het was een BSV shill

>> No.22943451

>>22943400
hahahaha een BSVjeet :D

>> No.22943526
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22943526

>>22942853
Orakelbedrijven die met tokens werken, zijn er weldra ook op BSV. Niks van wat Link doet is uniek. Het is allemaal gemakkelijk kopieerbaar en dan toe te passen als simpel generisch token op een goedkoper en beter protocol zoals bvb. BSV. De waarde van Link komt nog altijd van het onderliggende beveiligingsmodel van het basisprotocol. As dat een reus op lemen voeten is, dan is uw bovenliggend protocol heel fragiel. Principe van de zwakste schakel. En als zeer prominente orakelbedrijven in de komende decennia kiezen voor Link, dan wordt hun gedeelde waarde ook vertegenwoordigd in het Link token. Maar ook dat gaat niet gebeuren. En als het gebeurt, zal het niet voor lang zijn. Wegens de zwaktes in het onderliggende protocol.
En wat betreft uw andere poging tot argument, natuurlijk kunnen individuele PoW-miners nog failliet gaan, ook al zijn ze publieke figuren.
>Denken dat alle banken wereldwijd failliet zijn gegaan omdat Leeman brothers failliet ging en die logica dus verder trekken om proberen proof of work in zijn geheel trachten te discrediteren.
Zo'n ongelooflijke fouten tegen de logica maken en MIJ dan dom noemen? Haha, ik zat er niet ver naast toen ik Link stakers dweebs noemde.
Het is in feite onmogelijk om van mijn argumenten te winning, omdat ik de eigenschappen van BSV vertegenwoordig. Die shit is perfect. Hodl gerust uw shitcoin, maar probeer zelfs niet. Het is tijdsverspilling voor iedereen.

>> No.22943578

>>22943526
>> hij viel voor de BSVJEET shills.

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22943658

>>22943578
>>22943374
>>22943400
Ik ben de oppershil. Hoe nieuw zijn jullie?
>Ze denken dat Pajeets geen blanke baas hebben.

>> No.22943668

>>22943526
Probeer sgx maar te kopiëren, of deco. Probeer Ari Juels maar eens te kopiëren of fang zhang.

>> No.22943756

>>22942860
The thing is, it's not mandatory. It should be a motivational/smartness test if you want to be further educated here, or if you're going to receive gibs you should at least have the will to learn a second language. Bonus : no immigrants in the state workers/politics due to the double language barrier.
Since the XIII century speaking latin and greek was mandatory to be university teacher. Greek was removed in the 19th, then latin in the 20th. Stupid fucking mistake man; not because muh tradition or muh it's useful, but because it was a huge pleb filter for the teachers. Now all the university teachers are glorified state workers, doing less work than a HS teacher while having the ego of a minister