/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23166752
I have a bunch of 1st editions, what do?

>>23166764
Do some research and check the current market, logan paul is making them trend currently so good time to sell lower cards and preserve the rarer ones because they are only going up in value

Go and find that cunt and break his legs one night.

I had Charizard and Blastoise and about 100 other shitty ones. no idea where they went.

>>23166752
I have a couple binders of them laying around.
Never did get a charizard though.

I gave it away for free about 10 years ago.
Probably worth a couple of mills by now

Like others I gave mine away. Kept a few Yugioh cards though. Sports cards are money now too. Almost All collectibles are rising in value.

nobody is paying anything more than 50 bucks for a single card
just because i put a "1st edition" sticker on my freshly squeezed out shit and list it on ebay as a "ONE IN A LIFETIME UNIQUE" doesnt make it worth 100k
kill yourselves

>>23167756
You could have just gone to ebay and seen you were wrong in like ten seconds but instead you had to post here like a retard.

>>23167756
what the fuck is this post lmao imagine being this retarded

>>23167756
based

>parents gave away my cards to the neighbour's kid years ago
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>23166752
I had this exact card. My parents gave it to me for cleaning the boat one year when I was a kid. They bought it from a card shop for $110. It was sealed in a plastic case so even a curious kid couldn’t take it out and ruin the mint. It was in Japanese. It is a quarter of a million dollars now? I have a sick feeling in my stomach right now

>>23167756
pokecels absolutely BTFO

I have a mint condition holo charizard but it's not first edition, is that worth anything?

>>23167756
This. 50 bux max.

>>23168074
$1500

I doubt it's mint though. They never are.

Interesting, ch3cking this out today

>>23167992
Japanese version is worth less than English

Is this worth anything? its from the year 2000 apparently

>>23167756
>>23167925
yeah these pokemon retards are aboslute faggots. you can list shit on ebay for whatever price you want but nobody is paying for that. do you honestly think any transaction has gone thru for 250k for a fucking charizard? faggot retards

>>23166752
I remember all those years ago, my dad took me to the store to buy my first pokemans booster pack, i couldn't have been more then like 8 at the time. He came back to the car and i opened it anxious to see what id got, at the bottom of that deck- in the first pack i ever got, there it was "i got a charazard" i exclaimed happily, his eyes light up and he smiled cuz he knew that i was excited over it... to this day i still have that card, a bit beaten and played but decent condition and after alllllll these years and when i grew out of the game i told him to keep these safe for me, and they still sit there in his safe till today

Now i dont know how much they might be worth, but its a entire set of holoGs from the day of release booster packs- i think its nearly every card. Im gonna go see my old man soon, and well sit down and just look em over for old tines sake.

>>23168185
trading cards sell for thousands of dollars every day lmao just because one is extremely overpriced doesn't mean they're magically somehow only (insert random dumb number here). top kek, you think rolex watches should only be $50 too, huh?

>>23166752

Literally beanie babies

>>23168294
>beanie babies were popular for a few months and had nothing else related to them
>pokemon has been around for 20+ years and has video games, tv shows, and a fuckload of other merchandise
ok I'm done explaining pokemon or collectibles to boomers, have fun guys

>tfw mom goodwill'd or threw away your binders of multiple charizards, a couple prerelease holos you won at toys r us pokemon duels, and other rare gen 1 stuff

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>23168319

Not saying as short lived. Im saying its a bubble and nothing but a bubble. Even BTC has more function than cards.

This happened to baseballs cards in the 89s/90s now look at them after all geriatrics died or lost interest

>>23168294

this

>>23168434
baseball cards are back in style now selling for absurd amounts...beanie babies will never be popular again

it is still a bubble though, you're right about that

When people who have no clue about a certain market are trying to get involved with it, the bubble is already popping

>>23168580
Its mainly like me and a few of the first posters that were into it big when they were young and now want to get back into it. Its fueled by pure nostalgia and childhood memories.

>>23167756
This, if OP wasn't a huge faggot kike he would have screencapped "sold items + completed listing" on ebay instead of a pic of a meme nigger putting a ridiculous price.
I too can put a $80000000 price tag for a worthless common and call it a deal.

>>23168294
Pokemon has lasted multiply generations at this point it's dishonest argument to compare them to beanie babies. It would be like comparing Disney to beanie babies.

>>23166752
What gets a sensible chuckle from me is that he's wanting 250k for a card, which he will charge YOU $10 to ship. For that price he should fly in with it in a briefcase.

>>23169056
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue.

But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.

You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>23166752
I fell for the Pokemon and bought a few packs

>>23169311
Me too anon, plan is to flip these ETB's

>>23166752
Remember that guy who spent months digging through a landfill to try to find a hard drive with 20,000 bitcoin on it?
How many of you are that guy, but instead of bitcoin you're looking for little coloured pieces of cardboard?

>>23169555
well, did he find it?

B E A N I E
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>>23168237
>comparing rolex watches with half a pound of gold to fucking pokemon cards
cardtards are truly mentally ill

>>23166752
Stop tricking people into buying your worthless shit.
Go back to YouTube and don't come back.

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>>23169077
>>23169056
>>23168185
>>23167756
https://www.iconicauctions.com/Pokemon_s_Crown_Jewel__Charizard_First_Edition_199-LOT108868.aspx

good job outing yourselves as faggots

>>23166752
this is an illiquid market and when recesion hit the price tanks

>>23166789
>rarer ones
How the fuck do you understad they are rare?

>>23167567
>Yugioh carda
shit

>>23168095
>it's mint
what's the definition of ''mint'' ?

>>23168434
>baseballs cards in the 89s/90s
Aren't they valuable now?

>>23167756
You're like that fucking faggot who'd pay me 500$ because he couldn't get in on the charizard craze but you'd be willing to pay 500$ for just a piece of cardboard and plastic.

>>23170814
Check the psa registry.

>>23168331
C'mon anon if this wasn't a clown market ruled by 90s kids these charizards would be as worthless as those basketball cards.
Only the baseball cards managed to retain their price along the ages.

What's a mint e3 pikachu worth?
What resources are you all using to determine the value of these cards?

>>23166752
I still have all my Pokemon cards. I even have them in a safe. Never selling.
>>23169077
Checked
>For that price he should fly in with it in a briefcase.
I would actually do this.

>>23170903
Fresh out of the pack with no whitening on the edges/corners or holo scratches.

Being too off centered/print lines can also bump a pack fresh card to near mint.

>>23166752
Collectibles in general have seen a big surge in prices.
t. Collects comic books

>>23171394
22% of all usd was created this year alone
Inflation will wreak havoc end of '21 to 2022

>>23166752
I looked on eBay the other day nothing had bids on them. Don’t really think it’s real. I’ve got a few ones they say are rare but they also go for 10 bucks on eBay as well as 1k. I don’t think it’s real

>>23171693
PSA 10 1st Edition Charizard sold three times this week for 170,000$+. They sell on actual auction sites and not eBay

But yes an unlimited edition Charizard in shit condition will go for 10$.

How much for my holograpghic mewto?

>>23171834
Post a hd picture of the front and back and I can tell you an estimate grade on condition and the price you could get

>>23166764
Same. Aside from Charizard, I've got a full 1st Edition. Shadowless even. Where's a place to find a good buyer?

>>23171748
Are base set holo "lightly played" cards, ie. some scratches or spots, worth anything? How to be a seller on ebay without getting scammed or fucked over?

>>23166752
for someone knowledgeable about the scene
at these prices how do you conform authenticity
for in the end its just shitty ink on shitty cardboard, making a convincing replica should be that hard

>>23172141
How do you know what edition they are? I have a full book of shiny ones from when I was a kid in mint condition

>>23171394
>t. Collects comic books
Is this worth doing?
Which ones?

Just sniped a 1st Edition Dark Charizard for $80 (Potentially a PSA 7+), did I do good?

>>23167992

Lol, same, but I sold mine on eBay only 4 years ago or so for about 50 bucks. WHAT THE FUCK.

>>23169349
How much did these cost in total?

>>23168580
This guy knows

bro i remember being so into pokemon cards. my dad would go to the marshalls creek flea market every couple of weeks and buy the big box of packs. he would give me a pack as a reward for doing chores or whatever. id been trying to get a charizard for a while and when i finally opened a pack and saw it there mixed in with bullshit cards, i lost my fucking mind. i was so hyped. now? im not sure ill ever feel that same joy again.

>>23166752
I had a binder of cards when I was, like, 11 or 12 and I think some nigger swiped it from the gym locker room one day. Never found them again. Pisses me off.

>>23171149
>not selling ATH
ngmi

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>>23172447
>>23172141
>>23171834
>>23170985
>>23170903
>>23170814

https://youtu.be/509V3RSOwGA

>>23172543
Because I bought boxes of them the day they first came out in America? It's funny that I just though "Oh wow! I got Charizard! He looks so cool!" Traded that one back in HS for some MTG cards.

How do you know if you have are original? I'm 100% certain my cards were counterfeits made by koreans, chinese, hungarians, polish considering I'm from eastern europe. For me cards made in Germany was already high grade stuff.

I had tons of Pokemon cards along with Duel Masters cards but they each were of differing sizes, made of different quality cardboard and plastic, some weird enough to have alternate colors like the black was grey instead of black.

>>23170364
Money laundering transaction just like expensive "modern art".

Why is Charizard the most expensive? You'd think Mewtwo, Mew, HO-OH would be the most expensive.

>>23170826
You’re in here asking the definition of ‘mint’ trying to speak on which cards are shit and which aren’t. Dark Duel Stories Blue Eyes White Dragons are $4k each and I have a friend who has enough YuGiOh cards in his binder to put a down payment on a house. Don’t speak on shit you don’t know about

>>23175097
$3k*

>>23173910
Around 400 euro.

>>23173643
well done anon

>>23174878
Errors on the card, color differences, thin black foil betweeen the cardboard, the feel of the card, but usually the easiest way is to check the back, i'll post a pic a few mins later

>>23175082
Fire dragon, just iconic, red gameboy version, charizard from the protag in the anime, most people love charizard above the other starters

>>23174947
That's actually a good idea. In the future i'll be looking to buy expensive cards with btc without cashing out

>>23166752
Omfg STOP POSTING THIS EVERY FUCKING DAY

YOU’RE NOT MAKING MONEY AUTISTIC MAN CHILDREN

>>23175201
>Around 400 euro.
wtf
>>23174577
i ain't playing that shit

>>23166764
Fuck me. I had shadowless cards and I fucking sold them. FML.

>>23171851
You need to create an app like that and charge for that service

>>23175201
>Fire dragon, just iconic, red gameboy version, charizard from the protag in the anime, most people love charizard above the other starters
But it's practically common compared to the legendaries. Or were the legendaries not rare cards to begin with and anyone and their mother had a Mewtwo?

>>23174577
Yep. The only reason they have money is all these rich millennial manchildren YouTube/twitch streamers and crypto neets

Buy stocks retards. You only can get rich off Pokémon if you went through garage sales 20 years ago every year with a bunch of money or study the prices for years and check eBay day and night. Even then you will outbid 99% of the time and everyone knows their value and researched them before they list them.

The days of grandmas and stupid moms digging up 1999 cards and selling them in giant boxes is done.

>>23175527

You can still make money you just have to buy the stuff that’s underpriced relative to the market. Get the cards that haven’t mooned yet

>>23175568
There is zero point waiting 10 years for $200

>>23173571
Started out in '16, focusing in on Amazing Spider-Man. Since then a bunch of books have x5 in value. Was a perfectionist collector so high grade stuff only.
Starting out today would require lots of patience and free capital because the supply of high grade books just isn't there so you'll have to fight it out on the auction sites, which mean buyers premium, tax and shipping. Obviously you could collect lower grade stuff but the invest potential there is much lower

>>23175527
Retard

>>23175452
Charizard is popular in the whole franchise, not just the tcg. I think one of the biggest reasons is because it was most peoples starter pokemon in the games and it looks cool

>>23174878
Pic related. Left is new 2020 card, middle is fake, right is base set card. Looks for the little dark blue spot in the light blue area top right of the pokeball

>>23175726
Alright then retarded man child have fun trying to cash out $1000 in 20 years

>>23166752
HOLY SHIT

Same shit happened to me when I was like 8 or 10. First time buying cards with my mom and the guy swindles me into trading a holo first edition Blasoise for 3 more card packs

Are these card seller shop guys all swindlers?

>>23175726
Who doesn’t want a fire freaking dragon. Who would want some electric Jew?

>>23175618
Stay being a no-vision having drone

This shit sold for $198,000 at auction a month ago

>>23175841
Kek, nice one

>>23175890
I HATE YOU AUTISTIC MAN CHILDREN

This shit ain’t worth much right? Doubt any would grade higher than a psa7 since I played with them

>>23175928
As far as I can tell, the only yugioh cards worth big bucks are one-off tournament special rewards

>>23176013
These are worthless too right? I believe my brother and I collected them from burger king early in the 2000s

>>23175837
You and me are the niggers of the card trading world, we blew it. Our forefathers (mothers) never knew how vulnerable we were at that stage of our development. We needed to be trained to be conqorerers right then and there, not little (((nigga's))) getting trained to swindled by the hairy back card game trading jew. No one knew the potential worth of these pure beauties, the nostalgia, the school friends, the folders we would carry all day, the trades we would make, the morning cartoons! WE WILL RISE AGAIN, WE WILL TAKE BACK OUR CHILDHOODS AND MASTER THE JEW MENTALLY WITH PURE WHITE HOT HATRED

>>23175913
Suck a dick and go back to fudding STA or Tesla.

>>23175726
Nice I had the darker blue ones along with the lighter blue ones. I had all sorts of mix and matches. I wish I kept onto them.
What's utterly terrible but understandable about putting so much value into these is that they were never meant to be real collectables, even metal degrades easily so having a bunch of cardboard and plastic attempting to be sold for 1M is painful.
Imagine if a sticker was worth 200k, but I put that sticker on my door, imagine selling my door together with the sticker, that'd be one expensive door just like the sticker. Almost like Nintendo World Championships, I should probably buy those before Nintendo gets popular and they start selling for 2.2M or something.

>>23175897
Where can I see a chart for the prices? I know this thing 2 years ago was merely 15k. Pokemon GO really pushed its popularity hard, collectors should had seen it coming. Thank you Google maps for letting that 1 shit company make a below-decency "game" which doesn't even have combat in order to let us raise the price on these porkyman cards. Imagine buying these cards back in 2007-2010. This last decade flew quick as hell for me because there was nothing interesting happening in it beyond millennials inheriting money and putting it all into Kickstarter.
Anyway what are we realistically looking at for these cards? How do the Charizards' rareness compare to Marvel & DC's comic books rareness? Can a Charizard reach 1M or it's already too much?

Also there's tons of millionaires, but not many billionaires and trillionaires already do not mess around with collectibles and trillionaires don't even have the liquid money for this.
73 trillion is about the whole active liquidity, maybe 210 trillion if we really really push hard.

>>23176062
lel I have those too. They got the value of carboard.

>>23176139
>Where can I see a chart for the prices?
Don't know, but that sealed booster box was sold on Heritage Auctions

Wow so valuable

>>23166752
>biz now buying high selling low pokemon cards

>>23176186
Lol figured. And of course I gave zero clue what ever happened to my og Pokémon cards

>>23176209
Kek I read that as 1000 euros

>>23176217
The prices are spiking too fast for comfort, Pokemon cards might suffer a 2018 bitcoin-like crash. Or maybe this is just the beginning where bitcoin went from 300$ to 1000$ and it just kept climbing up like an asshole to 20k.
Imagine going futures 125x at 500$ in October 2016.

never tried to invest in this shit but i have one of these. should i sell it?

>>23176139
>they were never meant to be real collectables
Did any of you actually play the card game?

Back in 3rd grade we played like this:
>Draw a card
>Flip the coin
>If heads, your Pokemon does its move against the other
>Subtract HP until dead
>Winner takes the losers card!

This is another reason why Charizard was based. 150 hp and his attack is 100. It was basically unbeatable and only other cards in the base set that could possibly compete were maybe Arcanine or absolute faggotface abomination Chansey and maybe Magneton in the Fossil pack

>>23176351
Sell now and make P, sell in a few years and make stacks, you're time with come.

>>23176515
Considering that they never ever came with an instruction manual, no.
I had a tiny instruction book for Duel Masters which barely explained the rules properly in plain English. It was hard to understand even for me as an adult now, too many pages too many words just to say some simple things. Little 8 year old me could not understand jackshit.

>>23176515
Do you faggots have any stories for that 1 kid who played Mewtwo or Mew? I imagine he thought that was the most rare and kept it close to himself.
Till everyone ended up going for the dragon dick.

>>23176564
I believe theme decks came with a little manual

>parents heard something on TV about buying collectibles
>dad went out and bought fucking BOXES OF CEREAL
>if he bought packs of pokemon cards instead they would be worth thousands and thousands

>>23176821
>Tfw mom collects face masks and toilet paper

>>23176933
>face masks
You must have been really prepped for the pandemic

>>23166752
You're fucking kidding me.

I sold one of those on eBay about 12 years ago for under $100.
I sold five other holofoil cards with it.

>>23170814
Charizard anything is rare

>>23176976
Fuck you just made me remember the prices from 2012-2014. I am pretty sure a Charizard grade 9 was not worth more than 1000$

>tfw dad spent a small fortune collecting pic related
>only a handful of big collectors nation wide
Sadly nobody gives a fuck about the property anymore

How much for a charizard not mint that i just had as a kid? Friend whose way into this said $200-$300

>>23177688
https://youtu.be/509V3RSOwGA

>>23175897
This ended up going to
>>23177830
Aw hell

>>23166752
is it worth it to buy current pokemon card packs? or is everything after 2001 zoomer nonsense

>>23177830
Thanks m'sir

>>23178196
Only certain ones. Champion's path just released and the boxes that sell for $50 MSRP are $100 on eBay. There's 2 Charizards in the set that are going for $500 currently. Pokemon always has "holiday sets" that release in the fall that are stupidly underpriced relative to the contents so its scalper galore

this has got to be fake and paid for by people who are sitting on a lot of pokemon cards to jeet scam their bags into mooning

i was willing to believe this was a real manchild with no understanding of money
untill the part where his 'girlfriend' who is totally not a paid actress randomly drew 2 charizards from the card packs
no way that is real, it just stinks of the equivalent of a pajeet scam on here where they try to trick normies into buying this packs so they too can be a winner while they are really worthless

very good paid publicity and exellent use of celebrity influencers tho

>>23178503
meant to reply to
>>23177830

>tfw had a holo charizard
>mom accidentally sent it into the washing mashine with my clothes some 15 years ago
lmao
wish i could remember if it was a first edition

>>23178503
Mate, have a look at the facts. Pokemon was huge in the 00's and its the biggest franchise ever. The first edition cards are now over 20 years old and people who are now turning 30 or over find them highly nostalgic. Its also coinciding with the pandemic mentality and people reverting back to childhood memories for comfort. Logan Paul has been subscribed to pokemon youtubers for years and has been a fan like most/some others his age. Its also a way to get another type of people interested in investing, not everyone wants or can be interested or motivated by stocks.

>>23178531
>wish i could remember if it was a first edition
Probably dont want to recall that. Would make your stomach hurt knowing you lost 250k. I had that happen though with a yugioh dark magician. I liked him a lot too because he was in the show. Forgot to take it out of my pocket though.

>>23166752
Is there a chart for something like this?

>>23179822
Dude watch logan pauls or leonharts channel https://youtu.be/509V3RSOwGA

>>23176351
the fossil packs like this go for hundreds each.

Fuck I remember collecting these cards as a kid. I bought a first edition charizard when it first came out. My “friend“ wanted to borrow it and then returned it 3 days later all scratched up.

WRONG BOARD FAGGOT

>>23175416
Best idea here

>>23180544
to be fair if you didnt put it in a case the second you opened it its garbage anyways. would of probably been worth $200

>>23179994
>video shilling
so we're in the complete dark, just sell it to anyone willing to pay.

>>23179994
Logan Paul is a tool who doesn’t know anything about cards, just has the money to buy them. On stream last night he was saying badly centered cards would 10 and he was pulling them by their corners. That channel is only good on Mute to see the pulls.

>>23176013
easiest way to tell is the base sets that were released during the original yugioh run are the ones worth a damn. so anything after yugis plotline is almost worthless except cards like you mentioned. they're not that worthless but usually they're like 500$ tops

>>23181958
>>23180599

I cant make you happy, i dont know your personal intricacies enough to get that kind of reciprocal engagement, what i can say though is just be yourself and shine like a diamond and try to happy.

>>23176062
Mother fucker stop selling our cards bro! Half of those are mine you faggot

>>23176209
That card looks like it's been through hell anon. A near-mint 1st ed Charizard will easily pull 5 figures

I had these in kindergarten back in 1999 and 2000. I don’t think I ever had any decent cards though. Not sure where it even is. Is this worth looking into? They’ve all been touched.

>tfw I was buying unopened fossil/jungle packs ~10 years ago just for the nostalgia
>now that shit is too expensive to do because of retarded zoomers and zoomtubers

The market for MTG is so much healthier. There's actual liquid markets for the cards because people actually play the game. The actual Pokemon tcg is unplayable.

>>23182204
I seen some magic gathering cards go for top dollar. What decade were they popular?

>>23182204
Except MTG is exclusively played by virgin faggots and Pokemon is literally the highest earning franchise ever created and literally everyone loves it
In 50 years no one will know/care what Magic was but pokemon will still be a cultural icon like Mickey Mouse

>>23166752
they are not getting 250,000$ , trust me danny.

>>23182290
lmao cope, MTG is loved by high IQ players and Pokemon is played by 10 year old autists and only valuable as a collectible

>>23182339
I thought we were discussing the value of the cards, not the mechanics of the game. I play neither because I’m not a Virgin.
Which card game do you think has a higher player base and sales? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not the one played by Virgin NEETS in their mothers’ basements.

>>23170814
Looks for printing errors, especially on first editions. Mispelled words, incomplete graphics, shadowless boxes , etc. Basically, you have to know what the card should look like.

>>23175928
Get them out of the ringed binder and get one without rings. That or put them in toploaders.

>>23169077
Checked

>>23169652
Nope

>>23171533
>22% of all usd was created this year alone

>>23174190
That's awful, anon.

>>23182290
nothing wrong with diversifying. the mtg and pokemon cards will have their audiences and niche collectors.
Imo mtg players will be more knowledgable about price where pokemon ypu could probably get away with selling to people who think certain cards are valuable. everyone looking to sell should be open minded for max profit

>>23176062
Yeah those are worthless.

>>23178531
>blames his mother for his retarded self leaving shit in laundry

>>23182938
Actually people with too much time and money and an obsession with Pokemon will easily pay 30-40 each graded in 9/10 condition

>>23183188
I don't think it's fair to call that type of being a "person."

>>23179047
Anyways if everyone kept their cards in mint condition then prices would be a fraction of what they are today so it's not worth dwelling on lost cards

>>23182484
That’ll go for like 3 mill on reddit

>dad and I bought a bunch of 1st edition Pokemon cards back when I was a kid
>kept them in a binder specifically to save
>I know where this binder is and could access it but since my dad bought the cards he would be entitled to auction sales
>my dad is awful with money and any serious profits would be frittered away almost instantly
Fuck me.

can people stop fucking ask IS THIS X THING WORTH MONEY

if you did not instantly put it in a case its worthless. look it up on ebay.

I have this signed baseball card. Looks really old. Got a fat white guy. Looks like it says Baby Ruthy or something? Was that the guys girlfriend?

>>23185964
THE GREAT BAMBINOOOO

>>23167756
>just because i put a "1st edition" sticker on my freshly squeezed out shit and list it on ebay as a "ONE IN A LIFETIME UNIQUE" doesnt make it worth 100k
Well, that was your first mistake, you should have tried selling your bath water.

Just found my binder. Is this junk worth anything? The Machamp is holo and a first edition if that matters.

>>23185964
>girlfreind
your killing me smalls

>>23186317
the market is honestly at an ATH do not wast time get it graded and sell now

>>23166752
Woah I have this exact card, in this exact case. Where do I sell?

OMG FUCKING POKEMON CARDS BUY BUY BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>23166752
>imagine owning some of the first minted VRA in 2069

>>23186343
>get it graded and sell now
How would I go about this? Do I just go to the nearest comicbook store or is there something a little more "official"?

Pic related is also from my binder.

>>23186552
im not sure anon but im pretty sure you can just google psa and their site should have a "how to" and maybe some safety/precautions you should take before sending. you have potentially multiple thousand dollar cards on your hands so take care of them

>>23168331
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Mew-Pokemon-Card-2000-Movie-Promo-Sealed-Unopened/164437374528?hash=item26493b3640:g:FSMAAOSwp5ZfdnFQ

Only first edition holographic pokemon cards from the first set are worth anything. Almost no one got a first edition pack since barely any were made in the first printing and they sold out within a month.

>>23186552
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ancient-Mew-Pokemon-Card-2000-Movie-Promo-Sealed-Unopened/164437374528?hash=item26493b3640:g:FSMAAOSwp5ZfdnFQ
It is in first edition so definitely worth something. all the other cards are in unlimited edition so they are almost worthless

>>23186691
>im not sure anon but im pretty sure you can just google psa and their site should have a "how to" and maybe some safety/precautions you should take before sending.
I will take a look into this, especially considering that a great many of the listings on ebay seem to have had their cards graded by this company.
>you have potentially multiple thousand dollar cards on your hands so take care of them
I will, but sadly I only have a handful of the holo first editions and they are all in "played condition", but maybe they're worth something. However their value seems to fluctuate a great deal. (pic related)

It's funny, when I moved out of my parents house I threw away all of the stuff I had as a kid, but I couldn't bring myself to throw away the pokemon cards or the legos. I guess it's good I didn't.

I'm a day 1 Pokemon/Yugioh player who never stopped, I can 100% tell you it's all a big scam. The entire collectors market is controlled by the 1% of players who have been buying up all the shit for the past 10 years then pushing the idea that they are worth 1000s of dollars. No one actually paid them any attention but then you get some big YouTuber tricked into paying the "retard" prices since he doesn't know any better and now everyone thinks that's the value. I don't know if it'll ever go down now that's it's all said and done but as a player it's honestly ruining the game, everything is so expensive now when all me and my friends want to do is play children card games with shiny cardboard.

>>23186552
It is in first edition so definitely worth something. all the other cards shown in your binder are in unlimited edition so they are almost worthless.

>>23186808
You need to find its lowest buy it now price to get an accurate valuation.

>>23186818
That's not how markets work. the hoarders don't set the price. only sellers and buyers can move the price. the prices are high because no one is selling. They aren't selling because they believe the price will go higher.

What do u think of my ol collection /biz/?

>>23166752
How does something as floppy as a pokeman card get to be worth so much? Just because of ego? Did pogs ever sell for as much?

>>23186552
PSA or BSA are the 2 grading systems for cards, you send it to them, they evaluate it and put it in a hard case with the score it recieves.
First before sending it check if its valuable.
Dies it have first gen mark on bottom left of picture square, is it shadowless or does it have a shadow dow right side of picture square.
Check the corners for whitening, check the edges, check the centering of back and front. Check the condition of the surface of the back and front.

Send it to either, pay the fee, they grade it send it back

>>23186877
none are first edition so they're basically worthless.

>>23186887
Bah. So first edition or nothing huh

>>23166752
>imagine paying a quarter of a million for a beta manlet
the absolute state of pokecucks

>>23186823
I have a first edition blastoise, but its in german or something, whats that go for? Also, what's this "shadowless" stuff about?
>>23186868
>That's not how markets work. the hoarders don't set the price.
What about diamonds tho?
>>23186883
>How does something as floppy as a pokeman card get to be worth so much? Just because of ego? Did pogs ever sell for as much?
It's like fiat money but with cartoon animals.

>>23186899
Yup. I think unlimited edition Charizards are like $20. The whole market is ridiculous. The only reason the prices are astronomical is because the first printing was kept to a low supply because nintendo didn't know how well the cards would sell here. They sold out very quickly and most states didn't get them. most people had to buy these off the second-hand market to begin with since stores mostly just had the unlimited edition packs. Everyone gets excited to look through their old cards thinking they have a goldmine but unless you specifically sought out the first edition cards which you wouldn't do unless you were a collector you wouldn't have these.

>>23186899
Pretty much. That's not to say standard foils aren't worth much, they "just" need to be PSA graded 9 or 10(expensive and practically impossible outside of freshly opened cards). That said, it looks like you have a varied collection- see if you have any "shining" cards, cards with 3 stars, or a white star in the bottom right, those are special and still worth a bit even if ungraded.

>>23186868
>the prices are high because no one is selling.
That's because the the fucking hoarders bought them all while they we're cheap. Now the only sellers are the hoaders who have 100s of copys who ask for crazy prices and some random dude who found a copy in his basement after seeing threads like this.
>Only buyers set the price
Aka the retarded YouTubers who make people think the price is real.

>>23186924
What about diamonds. Well that's a little different since one player owns like 95% of the supply and they literally made diamonds part of American culture with their ad campaign. But the price of diamonds are still governed by the laws of supply and demand. A small amout were ever circulated and demand was kept high so prices will remain high unless people stop getting married or De Beers unloads their stored lot. It's also difficult so sell your diamonds on the second-hand market. You have to use the equivalent of car dealers who will try to buy at the lowest possible price. With yugioh cards a lot of different people own the cards so the market is more fair.

>>23187050
Noone has a monopoly on yugioh cards. if you want to make deck there are plenty of common or rare version/reprinted cheap copies of the cards you are after. You can also sell the cards after you are done playing with them so that doesn't even matter. You can't stop people from investing their money the way they want to.

>>23187050
I said only buyers and sellers set the price. the current price is the last sale price. you as a potential buyers don't have to buy if you don't like the price. Any sale made is consensual and moral.

When should you go get them graded? I have a bunch of 1st editions

>>23187049
Thanks. Kinda cool how some of these became valuable

>>23187229
You can send them to PSA to get them graded but a grading isn't worth it unless the card is worth alot already.

I don't trust pokemon cards, vintage comic books are really that only collectibles that I like to speculate on.

>>23187469
Why are comics more trustworthy than Pokemon? Both franchises operate at the global level.

>>23186877
Ungraded that page alone is ~1000$

>>23186965
>>23187049
I grade and buy/sell Pokemon cards.

PSA 10 1st edition - 220,000
PSA 9 1st edition - 50,000
PSA 10 No Rarity Japanese - 100000
PSA 9 No Rarity Japanese - 30000
PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard - 30000
PSA 9 Shadowless Charizard - 10000
PSA 10 Unlimited UK - 15000
PSA 9 Unlimited UK - 3000
PSA 10 Unlimited - 9000
PSA 9 Unlimited - 1700
PSA 10 Japanese - 3500
PSA 9 Japanese - 1000

You also have Korean/Chinese/German/French/Spanish/Portuguese/Dutch/Italian in both Unlimited and 1st edition but I'm to lazy to get values for these

>>23188462
Oh and I forgot to mention but Pokemon evolutions, legendary collections, and base set 2 are all remakes with the same art
>pic related is a remake from 2016 and these cards aren't worth nearly as much so if you see low ebay prices you might be looking at remakes

If this was a dad it would have died years ago. This is literally an American Staple

The economy is such a massive bubble that even pokemon cards can make you a millionaire.
The fiat scam must be over if pieces of cardboard are worth more than pieces of paper.

>>23188462
what is a full 1st gen deck worth?

>>23186818
This guy's onto something. I know a manlet who's into this shit and talks about how him and a faggot (literally) friend of his corner the market basically by buying up certain cards and later jacking up the prices. Sounds retarded but they're fucking cards so idk really

>>23186818
You are such a fucking troll under the bridge of this thread, litterally sent here from demon vampire spawn to suck the living daylights out of our fun. Im fucking sick to death of this demoralized crew of rejects whining. Have a look at your cards, what the fuck is those? Simple ass nig, collecting the colour purple like a whooping goldberg fan. They aint worth shit, nobody wants those cards. That aint shit. Yo ass aint shit. Fuck yo shit, nigga boi. Peace

I still got a few thousand pokemon cards, and atleast 5 charizards but they arent mint.. still worth anything ?

>>23188622
Not much really. 100-300$. No decks are 1st edition and on top of that the decks don't have charizard tier holo. That being said decks will likely go up in price because they're full of mint cards that you can grade and sell 15-20$ a pop so ~10$ profit per card after grading fees

>>23171693
did you miss the link above of a closed auction where the charizard went for $220k? you think that was a fake auction or something?

>>23174947
i agree about modern art, but honestly if i was rich i could imagine myself buying something this stupid kek. i mean, you could probably sell it later if you needed to, right? nostalgia is a powerful thing.

>>23175082
cause he’s a dragon. remember the original opening to the show? charizard was just the coolest. i was into magic the gathering but i remember all the pokemon players always talking about "holofoil charizard" like it was the coolest thing ever.

>>23172141
offer up and craaigslist. youll get tons of low ballers but a few collectors will offer a decent price

>>23166752
Safex mining is a safer bet. Besides, this is too much work, and my SFX miners keep me warm literally.

you guys who say you "wish you never got rid of it" are idiots. These are only worth anything because of the PSA10 rating. Basically the card has never been touched before and is in perfect condition. The ones you had that got chewed on by ur dog are worthless

>>23186886
>>23187350
What do you think anon? I dug up my old folder from childhood, I kept all my cards in here. I have a bunch of 1st edition cards. Here is my venusaur. Should i get it graded?

>>23187350
>>23186886
Here is the back. I can see slight white on the edges in some places. Otherwise looks ok?

Are these cards counterfeit? They're not first edition, but I'm thinking even non first edition are worth 500-2000$ if you grade them. I feel weird seeing all those charizards fetch such insane prices when I'm 100% sure every kid in my class had like 20 charizards.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000398790324.html

>>23182188
I bought like 10-12 packs to put in my christmas tree back in 2007-2009 , they were far far prettier than the first edition garbage that looked primitive by comparison.
I don't understand people buying 11 card packs though, in my country they were expensive as shit to begin with.
You were far far better off paying 10$ for 2 decks of cards which had like 120 cards in them, compared to buying packs for 2-3$ each containing only 11 cards.
Same deal with Duel Masters.

>>23189862
>AliExpress
>Are these counterfeit?

Got a whole binder full of OG cards. Should I try to determine the value by evaluating the card and condition then see what it's selling for on ebay?

>>23189773
>>23189764
Thats a 1st edition shadowless, great card looks in good cond of front, back is a little chewed out. It will prob get a PSA 8 and is only going up in value

I only have from x and y onward, I was a very late bloomer with pokemon.
I did manage to pull that rainbow rare gx charizard that was all the rage couple years back. Some asshole on ebay said it wasn't mint enough and sent mine back but I'm starting to wonder if he swapped a shitty one he had on hand with mine.

So the easier something is to destroy the more money it will be worth in the future?
Because Pokemon cards aren't resistant at all, they're even crappier than YuGiOh and DuelMasters cards.
I remember how thin the cards were and how they'd always get whites around the corner and it was easy as fuck to get the corners curved even with my 8 year old fingers. The people who shipped them definitely didn't give a shit about keeping them in mint condition so why would anyone.

Soon we're going to see food-based cards collectables made out of sugar and the whole challenge will be keeping them not only looking good but also smelling good.
Imagine collectables which were meant to be eaten/burned/deflationary.

>>23176821
kek

>>23166752
> Keep a MTG card Mirage edition was worth $70 in 90s
> Wait 30 years.
> Now it's worth $1.5
> Thanks reedition.

>>23166752
shit
I have no idea where my fucking childhood cards went
I know I had good shit too

>>23167980
based

I remember having this exact thread 3 years ago when Charizard cards were worth 5k-15k and 7-10 years ago when they were worth no more than 1k-1.5k

>>23191298
just wait
>2035
>Charizard is 10,000,000,000 USD

Am I missing something or is this booster box is way overpriced?

>>23191330
The fudder inside me is hoping that when people wake up to the charizard gold rush then the market will stabailize and even dump because more people will end up discovering first edition Charizard cards.
Most people were not looking out for them, even I back 3 years ago still didn't bother looking for one.
But when paid youtubers start with retarded sories like "I just found this 20 year old booster pack at Target under the shelves."
When groups and companies will outright start looking in redneck areas and even go to Japan redneck areas asking people in their houses to inspect their attic and basements for porkyman cards.
Then that's when the absolute mania will strike and the bubble will burst.

10,000 cards each printed and so far only 600-900 have been discovered.

Buy me on opensea.io

>>23166752
Wow, just read this thread and looked in my attic. Found my old binder of mint condition 1st editions. Thanks for the $500k faggots.

>>23191908
Larp

>>23190102
>that back will get an 8
Do you own PSA cards?
That's a 6 at best but probably a 5

>>23192123
Now even 5s for 1st edition starters are worth a few thousand so it's not a loss

All in DBZ cards

>>23191397
Ye the last 1st edition fossil (this month) sold for 11k

I got back into the game about 4-5 months ago. I've pulled some HEAT from the new content and I have an autistic buddy who has just about everything you could imagine in terms of vintage.

AMA if you have questions.

>>23191585
I'm just waiting for one of these retards to do the same thing to bitcoin

>>23192239
Post heat

>>23166752
Logic spent 250k on a Pokémon card instead of using that money to buy Chainlink, ngmi. Shit music shit with money

>>23188352
For real? Looks like most of them go 20+30$

I have full Japanese Jungle set, pretty much all in mint condition. How many shekels would that go for?

>>23193623
The two english unlimited charizards alone are 700$ unless the backs are reallllyyy bad.

>>23193631
If it's actual mint condition (mint is pack fresh with maybe one white spot) then around 700$. The most expensive Jungle card is Snorlax/eeveelutions. Jungle isn't in demand and Japanese is always less than English except in some specific cases.

buy CLF

>>23195285
>buying modern

>>23167567
I always thought any sports card made after like 1980 is worthless because they are all overprinted. That said I have several thousand dollars worth of baseball cards from the 60s and earlier my dad left me. Maybe I'll appraise them again

>>23191728
What game is this a part of?

I've just looked at the prices along the years. It seems like if you owned a Mewtwo you could have 30x'd your investment. Haven't checked on Mew yet.

>>23189773
Pokemon cards piss me off compared to sports cards. Especially shitty 1998-2002 cards.
They were exceptionally easy to damage. I remember creating a few white scratches on the edges and even creating bending scratches on the card outright simply by not unpacking them correctly.
Those edges because of how thin and cheaply they were made were exceptionally easy to damage from any kind of impact, even outright scratching it against the fucking plastic package. You can imagine how easy it is to destroy the edges from shuffling the cards in your card.

Pisses me off how this cheaply produced bullshit is worth so much when they could outright get damaged and get imperfections during the fabrication and shipping. Makes me want to counterfeit them all with a superior plastic and cardboard.

>>23166752
Friendly reminder that these threads are created by the YouTube fagot Gary lee in order to dump his bags on you.

>>23182339
MTG is a gay card game that isn't even going last another decade because WOTC is trying to kill it with leftism. More over, its a game only played by neurotic whites who think BLM despite the fact only white people play it. a dying demograph

>>23196174
so no different than any other thread on this board. got it

This collector market is just a scam, essentially, its become like crypto, where nobody actually buys it because they care about it, but buying them with the hopes that they can one day sell it off to someone else and make a profit. Its become a investment/money laundering scheme. There is even something similar happening with video games, where they have sealed video games and then try to grade them, which is even more retarded.

The only good thing is that PSA segregates this market from collectors who just want the card, but this is also why the majority of people's pokemon card collections are mostly worthless because none of them would have PSA grade of 9-10 rare cards.

Also, thanks to the influx, I think they halted PSAing new cards.

>>23166752
>buying up all the shit for the past 10 years then pushing the idea that they are worth 1000s of dollars. No one actually paid them any attention but then you get some big YouTuber tricked into paying the "retard" prices since he doesn't know any better and now everyone thinks that's the value. I don't know if it'll ever go down now that's it's all said and done but as a player it's honestly ruining the game, everything is so expensive now when all me and my friends want to do is play children card games with

It's all about physical NFTs these days + defi, pic related

>>23182188
>NOOOOOOO MY NOSTALGIA BASED MINDLESS CONSUMERISM

>>23196604
lmao theres actually an ebay store I stumbled onto that grades random games and marks them high. People actually buy them tho and they arent even rare ones like Kuon for PS1.
Also it's sad that scalping has caught on becasue now regular card players cant even buy them at retail prices for their hobby.

>>23198893
>regular card players cant even buy them at retail prices for their hobby.
Don't tournaments allow counterfeits? or don't tournaments use their in house cards to allow players to build their own decks to play anything they want?