/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>23928147
>You literally work your ass off to make rich people more money
Some of us work for the government anon, I guarantee I am not making anyone any money that's for sure

>>23928147
My programming instructs me to wage

>>23928147
Not everyone can live with mommy and daddy like you’ve been doing you degenerate waste of life. Some of us have been on our own since early teens and no, poor people with no connections cannot magically start their own business and get by.

>>23928147
Yeah but I'm those poor people

>>23928147
Gotta start somewhere anon. Make money to invest.

>>23928147
Why do neets think being a wagie is so bad
> we spend less time at work than you do trading shit coins
> we get paid holidays
> we get guaranteed income
> get to chat to qt's at work rather than getting caught fapping by mum

Inb4 cope. I actually think neets are the ones copeing that living at home and hearing your parents fuck is somehow based.

>>23928147
how do you pay the bills?

>>23928374
Not rly

>>23928395
cracking response, thanks for trying

GOOD MORNING WAGIE CADETS
LETS GET THIS STARTED WITH SOME BOOM BOOM CLAP
I KNOW YALL LOVE THE BOOM BOOM CLAP
THE WAGIE PUTS HIS LEFT FOOT DOWN NOW THATS ONE BOOM
HE PUTS HIS RIGHT FOOT DOWN NOW THATS A BOOM TOO
HE PUTS HIS HANDS TOGETHER NOW HE DID A CLAP
PUT IT ALL TOGETHER and do it 50 times each morning customers need to see

>>23928147
it feels good to accomplish tasks
to organize and talk to other people
you wake up tired but then you walk outside and get some fresh air, see the dawn, realize you're undertaking the same ritual as thousands of others
the relief of a days hard work ended knowing that you can relate to many others about the struggle of human experience

>>23928147
I’ve been on both sides of the fence, waging and pseudo neetdom(was in school full time but pulling pandemic unemployment). It made me realize anyone who said they have a “dream job” is an NPC robot. My dream job is to not work, simple as. I wage currently because I’m having a kid soon and I want to provide him with stability, but if I was solo? Fuck that man. Waging is the most soul sucking shit on the planet. You are selling your time for x rate so your boss can make bank. I have my disability rating returning soon, and I can promise you if I get 100% I’ll put in my two weeks and just do school.

>>23928374
>I actually think neets are the ones copeing
Of course they are. Their fragile little egos cant accept what losers they are. This is like the only place where living with your parents & not being able to provide basic necessities for yourself, as a fucking adult, is considered "acceptable"

>>23928446
Millions of people shit on the street and drink cow piss. Doesn't mean i'm going to enjoy doing that just because I relate to their struggles.

>>23928374
Both are shit desu, self employment is the only dignified thing to do
I agree wagecucking is better than being a neet

>>23928483
You are all copers, I feel offended by your generalizations. This being said:
Retired>Wagie>neet>stressed wagie

>>23928525
Yes

>>23928147
i can't/don't want to live with my parents until they die. i wasn't smart enough to invest in bitcoin back in 2015. so here i am, waging away.

>>23928534
This is true who do you think is mocking you? This board is filled with retired 20-40 age range

>>23928426

One time in the back at walmart i put this absorbant powder stuff on a bunch of hand soap that spilled in the back. It made the problem worse and the whole back (thousands of square feet) ended up coated in sticky white powder for like a month until i quit

>>23928147
My family is extremely poor, I’ve lived in nothing but rental homes since I was 6. I tried to start a business and it failed. I invested in crypto post 2017 and had to liquidate to stay afloat and eat food. I’ve worked for minimum wage the majority of my pre college days and as an hvac tech through college. I studied biochem and after I graduated thought I could get a highly paid cushy r&d job. Sadly, I never got the memo that your connections from networking are entirely more important than your 3.9 GPA. I work Anon to invest and to pay for a mortgage that I wanted ever since I was little because renting has left a bad taste in my mouth. Sure, you’ll pay taxes forever, but it helps hedge. I’m an Ag underwriter through sheer determination and I now clear 75k per year salary plus optional OT. My benefits are fantastic and I am happy with what I do to give farmers money so they can feed all of us. Being a wagie is not all bad, especially if you work for a federal position or a subsidiary of the federal ag charter.

>>23928147
They work so you don't have to.

White collars are wagies.

>>23928470
Would it not depend on the job? Like I think when people mean dream job they mean if they have to be a wagie the job they mention is the one theyll do with the least contempt. Surely most scientists have some drive to want to work in the field they picked beyond money.

>>23928648
Cope
>>23928689
Nope

>>23928575
>This board is filled with retired 20-40 age range
imagine believing this

>>23928147
>work your ass off
That's where you're wrong bucko
The only hard part is waking up in the morning
After that I do the least I can at work to get by and this is because I need money to survive. Not everyone's lucky to have parents that enable a NEET-lifestyle

>make a huge load of money from working for 15 years
>invest it all
>now my passive income earns me ~87K in dividends/interests and rent each year
how else was I supposed to achieve this?
by sitting in my mums basement all day and gambling my allowance on crypto?
not very likely + I'd probably never have a girlfriend during those 15 years

>>23928689
t. I was a scientist
I made it like, counting k-12, 25 years believing the wagie dream until i realized how much they were underpaying me and how they never gave me the roles or respect i deserved and always hired some pajeet to overlorde me. Switched companies 8 times in 9 years of working for pharma

>>23928483
>>23928374
Hit the nail on the head, this board is just degenerates coping

>>23928147
Smart wagies attain as high an income for as little time as possible and invest as much as possible. It's not about getting "rich" but about having a portfolio that can sustain your lifestyle until death.

>>23928810
This

>>23928470
Lmao no you have never been on both sides you retard, you just said yourself that you were a pseudoneet. This is basically what 99% of "neets" here is. Just college kids taking a break and calling it neetdom.
In reality being a true neet is depressing and hardly ever a choice. Especially after some time when guilt starts kicking in. I dont remember anyone on /jp/ bragging about being a neet a decade ago and that board was overrun by neets back then, probably still is. Real ones, not larpers.

>>23928726
well anyone who isnt retired that mocks a wagie deserves to get mocked right back

Wagies ITT

>>23928631
If ypu're not LARPING then conrats, that's really impressive. Now take the final step and earn financial independence. Also the part about networking is 100% true. People are monkeys and when a position opens up they don't hire on qualifications they just call whatever moron they know that will work for them.
t. moron who got a job not because he was the best but because he knew a guy.

Income taxes were the greatest trick played on the working American people in our fiscal history

>>23928147
because at the end of the day I’d rather have my own shit and be the master of my own destiny

Yes, it’s tiring to work 50 hours a week. but when I come home on Friday to a clean apartment, cute gf, gaming PC and a growing portfolio — it’s all worth it.

>>23928829
I don’t know why you have to come in so hot anon. It’s Saturday morning, drink some coffee and have a (you)

>>23928753
Im getting into the field and as much as its still waging like you said its at least more interesting than being some random offic worker. Like I actually enjoy doing shit in the lab or doing data analytics/bioinformatics. would it then not depend on which shit company you work for or even a university? For money Id rather get it via crypto or stocks.

>>23928888
>lefty/pol/ tier wall of text
What a waste of good digits.

>>23928919
No thanks, I dont drink jewish mindcontrol beverages. Im not low iq, unlike you.
And as for why - because what you do here is just wrong. You should feel bad, if you actually had a soul.

I quit working when everyone started hiring only niggers and women
Can't force me to be around them, I'm out

>>23928965
why would that be lefty/pol/ tier? im no leftie

>>23928944
The type of work helped. It helped i wasnt forced into meetings or to sit at my desk all day or micromanaged day to day. I justified my wagie ragie as >well at least im helping cancer patients, as i always tried to work at cancer pharma companies. But in the end those companies never gave me the role i deserved for the work i did and just determined role by degree, me being a masters while my pajeet overlordes being phds. And i was always only as good as my thumb can pipette, any lower performance and its like my resume means shit all because i have pajeeto yelling at me for an invalid assay. All i can say is dont be afraid to negotiate for higher pay going into any role because theyll work you down to a husk

Zero alternatives. Living with my parents was barely an option as a kid, let alone past 16. My Dad had his own business and it seemed shit; working all hours, getting screamed at and scammed by shitty clients, trapped in a mountain of debt and contracts. At least as a wagie if your job gets too shitty you can leave (many don't but that's another story).

As a wagie, who in the honest fuck would want to be forced to wake up and go to a job and do redundant shit? You’re just human capital, renting your body and soul to make a jew rich

I feel rented and used as a wagie. I would do anything to get out of it but the only way is win at crypto, have your rich parents die or save enough to have dividends and rent coming to you

>>23928888
>i can do anything i want
>mommy buy me a guitar
>mommy buy me weights
>mommy buy me vidya
>mommy buy me paint
>friends buy my ticket
>friends buy my drinks
>mommy feed me
>mommy shelter me
Pretty cool bruh

>>23928575
39 and retired checking in.

>>23928147
my work day is no different than being a neet, with the only difference that i have to make some banners on photoshop.
I get a guaranteed income out of it, 2x the usual salary for my town + food stamps + free jiu jitsu classes card.

What do you do meanwhile? click on your phone to make "PI"?
Serve with brave to make BAT?
When are you going to cash out your 5$ in BAT and PI to give mommy money back for the tendies?

a nigger is more useful for society than you. At least they steal and trade drugs. At least they make money.

>>23929523
ooho yes the cope is here full force
>No different except i have to have 23 quobbles and 3 quibbles every midterm report and wake up at 6 am for our morning meeting where they make sure the banners get finished. And im so confident in this wagie work i wont save a dime because i could do this forever

>>23928982
(((Drink))) to that!

>>23929596
Are you actually retarded?
You do realize competent people dont have to do most of this. I WFH with flex hours (don't start before 9) and I save about 80% of my salary (goes in investments mostly).
What you describe is your life after mommy kicks you out. Except the only meetings you will have are going to be BOOM BOOM CLAP, or daily menu review meetings at mcdonalds. This is your future.

>>23929030
This is what people don’t get about self employment. I owned a small business and it’s like being married with a never-ending to do list. Everyone is trying to fuck your over: your customers, your vendors, your business partners, your employees. Anytime you think you can rest, you know you shouldn’t because you could be selling more or getting more shit done. Everyone is relying on you to keep this place profitable or to increase profitability. You can’t quit because so much of what you’ve earned as the owner is built into the equity of the business, so quitting is like getting a divorce. It’s a nightmare. I did make a lot of money though and retired in my 30’s.

>>23928982
jew juice refers to alcohol, not coffee. Coffee is unironically based except the argument could be made if you buy it from a restaurant they use tap water which has fluoride in it

>>23929701
im retired retard. Enjoy your 9 am start time i hope they pay you for your poops or do you deduct those minutes?

>>23929755
>929755▶
>>>23929701
how much for poop

>>23928374
Not all of us are day traders, some of us just hold and shitpost all day.

>>23929792
And your starting capital appears from thin air? You are not going to get rich from investing if you have nothing to invest.
No one gets rich casino swinging shitcoins (besides house).

>>23929755
You sound majorly buttblasted. I expected retired people to be comfier, it's almost like you are mentally ill and larping.

>>23929861
deflecting and projecting are signs of manipulation. Im simply calling out your comfyspeak when we all know wagies are forced into the cagies until they get the ragies

>>23929792
this. t. RSR holder .

I'm hoping to retire in the next 5 years through investments. Waging is pretty shit, but working from home has made my quality of life amazing. Working is a breeze, mostly just fuck around on my phone. I've made more money on crypto this year than my actual job though, which reminds me how futile working is.
If I ever manage to retire from crypto I feel that people wouldn't respect me though. With my job my family respects me more than they ever have before, but they still think crypto is a joke. So if I ever made it and retired at such a young age they would probably think I'm being irresponsible and lazy.
How has life been after retiring at a young age, anons? Is your family proud of you, or do they not like you anymore?

>>23929911
it was my biggest holdup also was disappointing my father. But ultimately my parents are based and dont want me waging as long as i have salary, which i achieve with passive income investments. As soon as i have enough money to start a business i will, but its going to be $50-60k startup cost so we will see what crypto does

>>23929885
What comfyspeak? I don't consider waging comfy, just not as bad as mentally ill larpers like you are trying to make it sound.
I wage for money so I can retire. That's all there is to it. It's the only reliable way, and I managed to climb my way to where being a wagecuck isn't half bad. If I could not work, I would. But I don't want to be a poorfag for life.

>>23929899
LINK, OCEAN, RSR for me anon.

>>23929792
I get that, but not all wagies are forced into menial labour and hate their jobs which is the retarded assumption these basement dwelling neets seem to have.
I genuinely love my job, I get paid great to do something I actually like, I run my own team so get to surround myself with people I like and do very little actual work. Its based af.
Inb4 new cuck etc etc

>>23928575
Can confirm 41 retired here, & that's before I've cashed out a single link form my 140k stack

>>23929711
I'd rather take 10-20 years of stress and hell than 40-50 years of slightly better stress and hell.

>>23928908
>gaymer rentcuck
Lel

how do you get money anon? i doubt you've made it on crypto/stocks

bump

>>23928575
33 and retired, checking in.

>>23928470
Harvest the power of Dave Ramsey. Get out of consumer debt. Never borrow a dollar again unless it’s going to create two dollars in return. It’s your only chance. I started 3 years ago in a position like you with zero. 50kyr income I have reached 6 figure net worth in 3 years, a kid, mortgage, and wife.
The true secret to getting wealthy is getting your significant other on-board. It’s very hard to convince women that saving is better than spending.

>>23928575
31 and hoping to be retired next bullrun
until then i've got enough to neet for 30 years

>The true secret to getting wealthy is getting your significant other on-board.

>>23928908
>50 hours a week
>apartment
>gf (with nasty whore tattoos)
>gaming PC
wagies are fucking retarded lmao

>>23928908
You're a huge dayyuth for posting it but nice fertile bottom, be sure to pump a child or three into it soon enough anon

>>23928239
Came to say this. The entire job is just pretending I'm valuable.

>>23928147
Well what's the alternative? I need to work so I have enough money invest. Once I have enough money from investments to retire early, that's what I'll do.

>>23928374

>>23928888
This is THE biggest cope I've ever read. Imagine being so inept you wouldn't survive on your own. Even if you do use your time to learn languages, instruments, read books lifting weights (you're probably just fapping, aren't you?) it's mostly just useless information. I've been there, and after a while, doing what is essentially nothing is fucking debilitating. At lest wagies get paid for for their 'nothing' and it at least somewhat effects other people.

>>23928147

The worst part is wagies are actually PROUD of slaving and paying 52% income tax that goes to feeding niggers and muslims immigrants LOL (Netherlands). Wow I work in the financial district making 50k gross a year I have made it !!!! You are a loser anon because you focus on crypto (1 mill, little do they know KEK).

I can't stomach the idea of waging for another six months. I've pooled all savings and disposable income I can into eth and link but making it now seems impossible and I'm tempted by the get-rich-quick schemes of PnD pajeet shitcoins.

I'm about to drop another $2.7k in out of sheer desperation.

>>23928311
massive cope

>>23933661
No lifting weight is based and very useful, but I agree with the rest.
I think neeting is good if you use your time to get a marketable skill, then you can be self employed

>>23933746
I honestly the best medicine for being depressed is to lift 4-6 times/week, have sex 2+ times/week (buy a pro), cut screen time down to 2hrs. Do this for a month and you will be cured

>>23928147
So I can funnel my money into ORBIv2
not joking, I am the developer and I've never sold a single token
NEVER SELLING

>>23933931
FR shits on your project

get fucked

>>23933946
>FR
>nobody knows what that even stands for
I bet your token wasn't even made by a white person.

>>23929861
>And your starting capital appears from thin air? You are not going to get rich from investing if you have nothing to invest.
>No one gets rich casino swinging shitcoins (besides house).
the real cope of the thread emerges

>>23934005
Are you butthurt after hearing truth and realizing your only future is to rope or become abused wagie in service industry?
Mommy wont support you your entire life.

>>23933746
>No lifting weight is based and very useful
a broken clock's right twice a day

>>23928147
Because if they don't, they won't be able to sustain their life and work toward their dreams if any. Society would dissolve into a chaotic mess if everyone just decided to not go to work because "wHy dO tHeY WAgiE U wAstin TiEm U cuD CuM to AnimE All daY", you fucking retard. You think everyone is capable of finding their own purpose? if we had better education, I think so, but does it look like government gives the slightest fuck about that? You muster up all the power in your small little retarded mind and think about that. Coping with retards.

>>23934273
>get a couple thousand from the government
>bought 100k link stack in early days
>soon to be worth 100m

>>23928147
>Low risk
>low reward with possibility of medium reward further down the road
>Most people like to be told what to do
>no perceived judgement that a business they start might fail
>most people wage slave, and most people want to be part of the crowd, not rock the boat

That's why most people are happy to wage for their life and never try to strike out on their own

>>23934808
Oh shit, I just realized OP was talking about being a NEET, not about starting a business. In which case, I fully agree with >>23928483

>>23933883
>have sex 2+ times/week (buy a pro)
That'd be pretty expensive my dude.

>>23928147
What the fuck else am I supposed to do? If I dont work, i become homeless. Not everyone can just leech off their mommy and daddy, fuckface.

>>23928239
When people say government job what do they mean? Like you work for the CIA or something?

>>23935305
The government of my country is very big and interventionist, millions of people are effectively working for the government from soldiers to teachers to doctors to postmens to bus drivers to swimming-pool employees