/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24616330
How much are you getting paid for this?

>>24616443
67k a year GBP

Email on one screen YouTube on the other it’s gonna be a nice day

>>24616452
based

Assigned my junior a whole bunch of work to do this weekend so that I could relax today. Cheers, comfy kings.

>>24616443
I make $85K USD in the Midwest (purchasing power of $150k in a big city) to do basically nothing

>>24616470
>email
>jewtube
>binance
>/biz/

My company compensated me for the 2 additional screens "because working from is difficult and I am so used to 2 screens in office"

HOW DO I GET THE FUCKING MICROSOFT TEAMS APP TO STOP MARKING ME AWAY AFTER 5 FUCKING MIN?!?!

>>24616570
Based fellow nirvana bro

>>24616570
Teach me your ways, what kind of job is it?

>>24616616
>8 months WFH
>he still doesnt know the notepad trick

Go back to office

>>24616616
Caffeine.exe

>>24616655
I am newly WFH, was furloughed. please teach me senpai

>>24616640
Im technically a developer. I work in automation and big data which is a fancy way of saying i write SQL scripts. I work in aerospace, and the code is simple, while understanding the systems you pull data from are not simple at all. So I am protected due to I have that knowledge and not easily replaceable as it’s so complicated. Which means so long as my SQL scripts get ran and are successful (completely automated) I am done for the day. I’m 25

It is hard to find a good platform with crypto solutions to invest in.

Came across on DuckDAO, read twi posts of crypto experts. Seems like it is a transparent platform with an investment system. Have you read/found anything about it?

>>24616443
85k freedom dollars

>>24616714
>open notepad
>put a coffee mug on keyboard
>go for coffee date with qt

>>24616330
Incredibly based anon. I think today I'll reward myself with a nice fat joint rip after my morning duties.

>>24616330
>Not neet
>Not in wagie cage

What daring synthesis is this?

>>24616718
Sounds pretty sweet

>>24616718
What’s your background/education? This sounds fucking ideal. I work in aerospace manufacturing and it sucks. Thinking about teaching myself data science stuff and maybe programming and getting the fuck out of engineering entirely

>morning meeting
>get called on
>say I have nothing to report
>nobody cares
That was the only thing on my schedule today. They don't monitor my computer activity either so as long as I answer emails by COB today I'm FREE. I think today I will watch some anime and go to the gym early, perhaps I'll read a book and take a walk if the sun comes out.

>>24616934
It is anon, it is
>>24616936
I have an analytics degree and taught myself python in school and had some sample projects that I showed my current employer which had lots of buzzwords. Bachelors degree only and technically it’s a business degree too. They only cared about the fact I was learning to code on my own without school telling me to do it and was hired because I looked like a real go getter to them if that makes sense.

>>24616452
damn what do you do?
I'm on £22k/year...
:(

>>24616616
>>24616714
Download 'Move Mouse'

digits and IDEX >$4 by 12/18

>>24616718

Which coding language is the most valuable to you

About to dial into a meeting and then watch Star Trek all day

>mfw i don't even pay rent so i can just stack indefinitely

>>24616718
Absoluteely Sick. Im waiting to hear back about a automation engineer job right now. I fucking LOVE making montonous, manual processes slick and automatic. Remove the weak humans! Wish me luck anon

give me a good boomer etf/mutual fund to buy and hold in my roth

>>24617486
AVP of data science

>>24616718
Do you have a master's? I work at a defense contractor and everyone has a master's or is working on it. I see no reason to slave classes and work at the same time.

>>24616570
Lol, mentioning purchasing power
Cope more, your salary sucks

>>24616330
>10 oclock meeting moved to 930
its over for me bros...

anyone else day drinking?

>>24618395
I don't drink until after lunch.

>>24616769
Hahahahahaha never thought of this. Been WFH all of 2020. No one seems to care that I'm away quite a bit because "I have two kids at home and sometimes they need carrot sticks or a diaper change or some shit" but I will start doing this.

>>24618778
Lmao. I go on zoom meetings everyday and there is this one guy who always has a baby screaming on the background. I can't imagine trying to work like that. I sometimes wonder if he lets it scream on purpose.

*cucks your employers*

>>24618818
I mean, honestly I'm able to do more in three hours working from home than I am in 8 in an office. I hope we never go back. Making 150k and never putting on real pants is fucking dope, even if I have to scoop shit or make grilled cheese or something. Their mother or my mother-in-law does 95% of it during the week, but that doesn't stop me from throwing a "dad duty" status in slack and then fucking off for an hour or two in the afternoon.

>>24619060
>I mean, honestly I'm able to do more in three hours working from home than I am in 8 in an office.

I wish more employers understood this. So much time is wasted in the office, I probably sit at my desk for 5-7 hours a day reading articles or shitposting on my phone. Not to mention how much time is taken out of the day gossiping, chatting or just doing mundane office crap.

>>24618395
I was pretty lucky to quit drinking right before all this work from home bullshit started, otherwise I'd be a hopeless alcoholic with all the free time I've had. Instead I played a lot of video games and read a lot of books over the last year, much more productive.

Finally making my money back on LGVW after I buy high-ish then it dropped
I'm getting the fuck out

>>24618959
main negger
Move.Mouse
I use it every day

>>24616330
another day shitposting from my wage cage

>>24618959
>>24619146
My boss doesnt even give a shit as long as I'm responding to emails and completing my tickets. Feel sorry for you anons.

>>24616718
How do I break into an industry like this?
>t. bachelor's in math/stats with SQL/R experience

>>24619172
Eh mine is okay but likes to get in my shit to cover the fact she doesn't actually have a role

>>24616769
Shit strat. Just put something on the ctrl key. Easier.

>company has done layoffs every months since sept with no signs of stopping
>manager finally realized that I haven’t done shit on the thing I’ve been “working on” for two months
>is mad
>meanwhile after multiple interview rounds the only thing standing between me and a much higher-level job is a 45-min intro call with the new team
Ooooooh I’m dancing on the knife’s edge lads

Bros I'm going to post this every day in this stupid thread till I finally escape.

I have a bachelors in Mechanical Engineering. Let me be a warning to u frens, don't fall for this meme. I'm a CAD monkey, I draw lines and circles. My job could easily be done from home but the field is infested with boomers and they don't allow it. If any one has advice on how to escape this hell, please help. I'm currently saving up money to go to a coding bootcamp, mostly for the networking.

Last thing for me today was a meeting at 2. It just got moved to Wednesday because my boss said they are not feeling well.
>boss is sick
Yeah, I think I'm done for the day.

>>24619519
coding bootcamp will be good if you'd rather be a code monkey. otherwise get an mba and be a manager at a software company. don't have to do anything, they just need non-autistic people to talk to clients since all the programmers are useless at presenting things

>>24619519
I can’t express how much you don’t need a coding bootcamp unless it’s one of the 1-3 semi-famous ones. Unless you have absolutely zero internal motivation it’s a waste of money.

>>24619589
>>24619519
I said the same thing in a previous thread. MBA is the way to go.

>>24619519
>>24619594 is right. everything in a bootcamp can be selftaught

what have you done to help your situation? just start, it's the only way to learn. pick ANY random project that sounds cool and start building it. once you have a few projects then you can start applying and networking

t. bootcamper

>>24616452
Based. What's your role and how many years of experience?

>>24619712
This is true. The best way to learn is by doing.

>>24617678
You sound like a redditor. Go back

>>24616330
$108K sysadm here. I will try to do about 10-15 minutes of actual WFH work today.

>>24619594
>>24619712
Can you suggest any projects? Also when people mention working on projects, is it just working along some sort of tutorial?

>>24619589
>>24619662
I don't think I can handle waging and education at the same time, plus all the money.

>>24617678

>>24619662
Seconding the MBA. Lots of good programs online that aren't insanely overpriced. I did mine at the University of Wisconsin for like 30k over 2.5 years. Laughably easy (orders of magnitude easier than some of the data science programs I was looking at) and it paid for itself within like 14 months.

>>24619896
not tutorials, you learn nothing by copy+pasting. pick literally anything. i made a stats site for a popular game and a platformer. maybe do a crypto platform with charts and hook it up to coinabse

>>24618959
That is some smug looking mouse motherfucker

>>24616330
got a damned meeting in the afternoon.

>>24616330
I got the day off today so im jacking off to BOOBA porn, eating chicken wings, drinking, and taking a comfy nap. Gonna wake up and see the moon and tell work I'm not coming in tomorrow as I'm now rich. Later poorfags

>>24616452
nice. i get paid 107k USD. i do have to do some work, though usually i get away with doing nothing most days

>>24619519

bootcamp is only useful if you dont have a degree or have no drive whatsoever. you already have a useful bachelors, just teach yourself. main thing is to have something to show for it, so find things you can code that are actually useful

>>24617578
He said he uses python in another post here but I am in a similar situation and python is the way to go to learn the basics. Go to w3schools and learn sql and python. If you have any sort of office experience, make up shit you did that involved running sql queries or find a way to get invoked with a project like that at work. I worked in customer support for a tech company and just inserted myself into projects. People don't mind helping out in my experience.

>>24617808
>Lol, mentioning purchasing power
when rent is a third of that in a large city it's kind of relevant yeah

>>24619112
It's mostly boomers. At my work thankfully they're retiring, younger Gen-X and Millennials are pushing a telework pilot program starting on January 4th, so I'll get to telework 2 days a week initially for a 6 month period while testing long-term viability. I work in the DoD as an engineer so things are slow. But I wouldn't be able to permanently telework 5 days a week anyways, since I have to test equipment and hardware in the lab which is top secret.

Unless of course they changed our workload so that some people are solely in-person testers, and others perform solely remote work...

One can dream.

>>24620835
>I work in the DoD
>younger Gen-X and Millennials are pushing a telework pilot program starting on January 4th
Uh, what? DOD commands/activities are required to have a telework program in place, it's a DOD directive. There's no need for a pilot program, you just sign a telework agreement with your supervisor and file it with HR and then you work from home on whatever it is you do. If you're in the DC area, they're required for everyone for snow days. Yeah, you can't do classified work at home, but everything else you can. This has been the case for years now.

t. wrote the telework policy for my command two years ago

>>24616330
>doing absolutely nothing
wageslaving sucks but that doesn't exactly sound great either.

>>24620948
>tfw the government is legitimately ahead of the private sector on telework

>>24619860
How did you get there? Degree? Certs?

>>24619966
What was it like going from MBA -> getting paid for having an MBA? I’m considering it but I don’t see how useful it could be considering the menial bullshit I do at my job (manufacturing engineer)

>>24621004
I read books, watch documentaries/tv/movies, sell shares
It's comfy

>>24621097
Yeah, they passed a law about it back in the 2000s, I used to be able to rattle all this off the top of my head but it's been a while. I became pretty well liked after I wrote our policy because our command had been using it as a favor for one employee and made it seem like not an option to anyone else, but after I wrote the policy and provided training a bunch of people started using it to telework a couple days a week/payperiod and it really helped them out avoiding the commute. Productivity also increased in my department because people had quiet time to focus on knocking out paperwork rather than dealing with office wanderers who wanted to chat.

The problem is that there's no real accountability for activities, at least in the DoD, that are out of compliance with directives and the law and don't have their own telework policies implemented. Basically unless someone like me sets it up on their own initiative, it'll take an employee making the request, getting denied, and then filing a grievance with HR to get the ball rolling. It's kinda stupid but it's the government bureaucracy, can't be helped.

Also as far as I know the government doesn't have tracking software on their laptops/machines to make sure you're working. I think it's a privacy breach. They do monitor network usage though so obviously don't be looking at naughty websites on their machine, but I've never heard of a govie having to use the coffee cup trick.

>>24616330
>wake up 7
>make some breakfast, shower
>turn on work laptop at 8 am
>do my days worth of work in 1 hr
>chillin playing vidya by 9 am

Feels good, doing nothing and getting paid for it feels even better when I've gotten all my work done for the day. Just have 1 meeting to attend at 1pm where I'll play mediator for boomers debating my project. Cheers bros

>>24620835
>It's mostly boomers.
i hate them so much. been working remote since april and the boomer executives keep stringing us along by extended the "back to the office" date 2 months at a time. someone asked our CFO point blank if we could introduce a formal wfh policy since we've been 100% remote for fucking 8 months.
>blah blah blah company culture blah blah blah faces to names blah blah blah (implicitly the answer is no)
meanwhile we live in one of the most densely populated states in the country (NJ) with soul-crushing traffic and exorbitant cost of living.
>IT'S NOT AN HONEST DAY'S WORK IF YOU DON'T SPEND 90 MINUTES IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC AND SPEND 30% OF YOUR TAKE-HOME WAGEPITTANCE ON MR. SHEKELBERG'S RENTS
>CHOP CHOP, WAGIE. BACK TO THE OFFICE IN 2 MONTHS!

I work from home but I actually have to work and it sucks balls.

>>24621624
Polish your resume and start applying to other jobs anon. When they finally order everyone back into the office sometime next summer tell them you want to keep WFH indefinitely and that you'll quit if they don't let you.

WFH is literally the future, it's not going away. Companies that don't adopt it are just throwing money away on infrastructure costs they could easily be passing onto their own employees. They'll be left in the dust and eventually collapse under the weight of their own water coolers and coffee machines.

>>24621624
The weeks and months ahead will be the most important battle the middle class has faced in generations. We all need to stand firm and insist that were not dragged back into the office. If enough people stand up and say no they will have to concede.

>>24617808
>thinking higher salary = more purchasing power
ngmi

>>24622229
Higher salary is way better. Put it in stonks, watch it grow, then move to a poor place and displace the locals

>>24616718
I feel the same anon, but I write sql queries for telecommunications and spend most time on understanding how different retarded sap tables were put together by indians 30 years ago.

Usually work 1-2 hours a day from home, had to come to office today, it's been 10 hours and I am still here. Fuck this shit, I am finding a permanent work from home position even if I have to change my career while trying to make it.

>>24620948
I'm that same anon you replied to in-case my ID changes.

Yes, we have a program in-place. Without going into much detail my unit is a bit specialized so there's been some red tape associated with us. For our intended purposes the current directive wouldn't completely work.

I'm not an expert, I just know I can't telework until January 4th, and it'll be twice a week for the first 6 months.

>>24621342
Pretty interesting read. Sadly I smoke weed and the gov pays less in my sector than private (IT) so I dont give them much of a look.

>>24620948
DHS here, leadership is working on a permanent wfh policy. I hope it applies to my position (software dev)

https://4chanarchives.com/board/biz/thread/1332463.. (skip down to hr anon)
Can anyone that works in or works personally with middle management tell me how their going to change in the future of working from home

>>24616443
7-8k usd per month

>>24616330

>>24616443
70kyr

>>24622429
>Fuck this shit, I am finding a permanent work from home position even if I have to change my career while trying to make it.
This is exactly how I am going to be going about it.

Work from home [anything] > not wfh, as long as comp is at least like $30k/year. Current comp 170k

>>24616330
>WFH
>do nothing
>work on MBA while getting paid
>meanwhile single mom waitresses are bitching on fb about their restaurants being closed

>>24622306
Are you memeing or just dumb? Let's say I make 100k a year and pay 75k in taxes, rent/mortgage/ utilities, etc. I now have 25k. Let's say I make 85k and 55k in taxes, rent mortgage, etc. I now have 30k left over.

There's a reason why 90k a year is nothing in NYC, but pretty decent in some place like Madison, Wis.

>>24617808
seriously, what a fucking hick thing to do

Signing the papers later today on my first WFH position, pays only like 30k but it's my first job in my field (IT). Been working at a warehouse for the last two years wanting to kms thinking I wouldn't be able to find a WFH job anytime soon because of the level of unemployment and having no experience. Thanks for the motivation /biz/

>>24623738
For the government it won't change much (partially because there's so much waste and people not doing work anyway, working from home doesn't change anything). For businesses supervisors will just have to become more accountable for work that does or does not get accomplished, and I expect eventually supervisors will be rewarded based on how much output they can get with as few WFH employees as possible. Bad supervisors will be unable to keep output and retention up at the same time and will probably be fired and overall I expect bureaucracy to shrink a little bit. Really computers and automation had a much bigger impact on middle management than WFH will.

>>24625168
Congrats fren. Never settle. Put that job on your resume the day you start and get ready to move on up baby

>>24618497
don't post pictures of my wife, thanks

>>24625168
Congrats man. Rejoice, you joined the elite

>>24616616
i setup a macro on my mouse to scroll up and down repeatedly on my

>>24616769
thanks lmao

>>24616443
110k usd

>>24626861
I downloaded a massage app which makes my company phone vibrate. I put my mouse on the phone and went back to bed this morning. For the rest of the day enjoy trading, researching and doing whatever the fuck you want

>newest hiree at work, so lowest on the totem pole
>usually get away with doing almost nothing wfh
>literal jew that has been there a year longer than me has coyly started slipping me some of his tasks to do (anon, send an email to X... anon, research Y and report back)
>outright ignore him because he's not even my boss
>he's starting to get mad
>secretly been recording him over the past couple months talking about smoking weed and doing nothing, and shit-talking other employees
>comfy knowing that if he tries to do something I can just drop the nuke and get him fired

>>24627407
Good job anon, never accept tasking from anyone who's not your boss.

>>24627407

>>24625168
Congratulations anon, never settle and don't stop learning. We are all going to make it.