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Ford BTC

>>24834615
ferraris

Honda s2000

>>24834615
pretty much any car that's 20+ years old and has a community of fans... my piece of shit Ford Expedition has been going up in value for several years now

>>24834678
>Ford expedition

Bullshit

>>24834615
Toyota Hillux

>>24834615
Chevy C2

any 15+ yr old supercar with a manual transmission, or a hyper car that was over a mil msrp

>>24834615
Alpine A110
Ferrari with V12
Lamborghini with V12
IMO the BMW M140i but I’m not quite convinced myself, just thought as it was the last turbocharged 6 cylinder RWD 1 series and very tuneable.

European hot hatches from the 90s - Clio Williams, 106 GTi/Rallye, even a Saxo VTS is a good buy now.

They're not going to make your hundreds of thousands like a supercar of the same era, but they're not going to lose you any money either.

>>24834913
The 1M will be worth a lot in the future.

>>24834615
Honda NSX NA1

porsche 993 or older. 996 might prove to be an investment in time, CS2 is the one you want - avoid the targa, girls dont collect cars

About 10 years ago, this was the most undesirable and cheapest VW bus. Look it anon. You see its appeal, don't you? It will gain value each year if you look after it, and you get to enjoy it on weekends.

I'm amazed how well the GTR's are holding up. Im looking to buy one(2017facelift+) with my gains and see 3 year old modelsgoing for what was essentially their MSRP. When you factor in the increasing cost every year I might as well buy a new model cause going used isn't really saving any money.

I can only imagine how much they'll appreciate once production stops and we go to the R36

The one and only

I've always loved old VWs. Few appreciate though.

last M bimmer worth a shit

>>24834615
old Mercedes SL 500s

gtr is a souped up nigger tier altima, you buy them with payday loans

>>24834615
- ap1 s2000 color doesnt matter as much for the s2k, dont get the light blue with blue interior though
- na1 nsx, black or red
- 911 964 rear wheel drive coupe in black
- r32/34 gtr grey, black, blue, midnight purple

>>24834615
Here's some "cheap" cars that will either hold or increase in value.

Ferrari F355
Acura NA1 NSX
Honda S2000
BMW E30 M3
BMW E36 M3
Porsche 997 Turbo S
Porsche 987 Cayman S
Acura/Honda Integra Type R
Mazda RX7
Volvo V70R
Celica GT-Four
R32 or R34 Skyline GTR (bonus for Nismo)

Notice they're all really good drivers cars, manual and from a time right before computers started taking over and ruining the driving spririt.

>>24836352
Throw some aircooled 911s in there too, SC, 930, 964, 993.

>>24834615
The GTR? I guess it has a cult following and stuff. But if I were to buy a car for investment, it would be some old American classic from the 60's like the Camaro or Corvette.

>>24836494
boomers are dying be careful with that. you want to captivate the feelings and nostalgia from the 80's to early 2000's. The young cunts will buy your "bags" when they make it. They will pay pretty penny too.

I have not had any car and want to buy my gains. I assume, I should with CPO option (?), but which brand and model, I need to aim for 10k-20k?

>>24834678
>Ford Expedition has been going up in value for several years
LOL

>>24836352
just search for "hagerty best cars of the 80s/90s" or hagerty best suv/sedan/convertible/truck for 80s/90s information isn't a seceret. hagerty has good intel on cars that go up

if you are buying cars as an investment you're already too far gone. you're going to be dying of aids in a gutter in 10 years time

>>24834758
Those did go up idiot

>>24834615
Kek!
Car guys are the most cringe brainlets, worse than weebs and marvel fans kekekekekekek

>>24834781
>hilux

>>24834615
Old rally Lancias.

Ive seen deltas being sold for £100k
037s for a million
stratos havent looked but must be above the 1 mil mark

>>24835177
this or a Lancia Delta Integrale Evo 2 for me.

chevy ss
415hp sleeper
merican muscle

>>24837066
some car guy stole your girl admit it anon

They are definitely not investments. Only Boomers care about cars and they will be dead in 10 years.

invest in miata hardtops trust me. its quadrupled in value in 20 yrs. now even miatas themselves are finally beginning to get a little more expensive. the hardtops wll fcuking MOON

>>24834615
>>24834615
you cant go wrong with a Maserati

Datsuns have exploded in value within the last decade. A clean 240Z or 510 used to be $3-8k on Craigslist, are now going for $10-15k+

Vintage Japanese cars in general seem to be appreciating very well right now. In a few more years, we will probably see the 1980’s 300zx and supras gaining a lot of value as they become rarer and harder to find

>t. own a datsun 510, 240z, supra, miata, hilux, cj5, samurai, and a half dozen motorcycles

in 20 years you wont be able to drive your own car

>>24834615
CurioInvest knows

>>24837629
maseratis are actually the worst

>>24837668
that must be why i see niggers and white trash driving them

>>24834658
except the california

>>24837668
You cant go wrong with one though.

>>24836352
nsx and GTR isnt cheap lol, and RX7 is getting up there too

>>24837645
>$10-15k
Meant to say $10-30k+

>>24837568
No kek!!!
I steal your girls because they don't want grease in their pussy when you finger them.
I'm also just smarter, taller, more handsome and intelligent, plus I'm funny. GG WP

>>24834615
I feel like corvettes from the 60s early 70s might not be a bad investment. Boomers dying off and they are fairly cheap but idk im not a big car guy

>>24838045
hate to say it, anon. But, you sound poor.

>>24838299
Oh yes, I'm young and poor, thankfully those are 2 things that change ;P
Plus I hold XRP and XMR, I'll be more than alright ;)

>>24838609
After the rope?

cars are only investments if you dont drive them.

>>24834678
kek
shit like that warms my heart, anon.

5th gen vipers have started going up in price already

>>24838808
it's funny to think of the vw van's history.
and then notice the symbol on the front of it was designed by adolf hitler.

>>24834686
How does that not overheat

>>24838609
plenty of us are young and rich. Also, being young changing isn't a good thing and your being poor changing could be for the worse... Not sure where the flex is.

>>24836352
Purchased pic related yesterday. Anon, am i gonna make it?

>>24838045
Real fucker never brags, no re zz

>>24839193
>great safety features
>good reliability
don't see a problem making it to the grocery store

>>24838768
yes papa uuugggghhhhhghgghhggh

>>24839020
I'm only getting better with age ;). And your (((daddy money))) flex, is kinda cringe bro. You'd have to be a brainlet to not be making money rn, I made 200% last week ;)

>>24839605
Doesnt take family money. Many of us have been in crypto, have started businesses. You just haven't done anything to brag. Earn your stripes, little guy.

>200%, still poor.
talk about cringe

>cars as investments
You are retarded

>>24834615
One of the few affordable cars that keep going up in price. I bought mine to enjoy it though not as an investment, that's just a nice perk.

>>24834686
imagine the smell

>>24839681
Kek! About to do a 10x this month as well, only need 3 of those and I'm a millionaire and can retire off 5% interest. Retired by 30 with hot redhead waifu with 4 babies. You jelly?

CLEAN low miles 1990-2000 Honda’s with no rust. Mainly the civics, Integras and preludes. Can be found cheap but they are getting harder to find and people want them now. Prices are increasing

>>24839989
I hope this is a larp lol
>2x
>needs 1,000x to make 1m still

you had $500 and youre shitting on people that like cars... You had $500.

>>24834615
Unironically NA/NB Mazda Miatas. They're already appreciating aggressively because people are beating the ever loving shit out of them and want to continue to do so.

My ford focus. Oficcially became a classic when ford stopped making them

>>24834615
Pathetic Automatic Scum

>>24836352
Add the C5 Corvette Z06 to this list.

>>24840888
Don't you know the powershit dual clutch in my focus shifts faster and therefore makes it faster than any manual car ever and that's the best argument I have for this?

Eclipse, rx7, rx8.

>>24834615
>acutal investment
>GTR
lol... you avin a laff bruv?

>>24834615
Pre 1960s in working condition or limited releases like a Bugatti

>>24836352
>cheap
check again bro those cars are all expensive as fuck

you want to pick cars that no one's buying yet but will be classics
>Ferrari 430S
>Porsche 996 turbo
>Saab 900SE

>>24840870
Your unsupported auto econobox isn't going to be worth shit in less than 10 years.

My bike is faster than all of these cars. Gets better mpg too and is cheaper to insure. Cars are gay.

>>24834615
E36 & E46 BMWs are peak collector cult, guaranteed resale value

Motorhomes and vans are good at holding some value due to rampant homelessness.

>>24841175
RX8's are everywhere, cheap, and always broken. They don't and won't have the same level of hype around them as the RX7.

>>24841513
Cry me a river chink loving faggot. Watch my focus be worth as much as a shitty 1990 jeep wrangler or more

>>24841532
No, they're gay. The only BMW chassis worth a shit are the E30 and E92

>>24841578
Unless you've got an ST or and RS I've got bad news for you.

>>24841532
>>24841610
E46 might get bought up because of NFS actually let me amend that

>>24841610
E92 is a heavy POS. E30's have already appreciated and will continue to do so.

>>24841658
>E92 is a heavy POS
Nobody gives a shit, it's the only chassis they ever made that looks good.
People buy them up even though the 4.0L V8 is dogshit, you're thinking too much, markets are driven solely by visceral gut reaction

Most E92 M3s go for mid 30K, making them second most expensive only behind the E30 M3

https://bringatrailer.com/bmw/e90-e92-m3/

I dont know if you keep up with current events because the new M3s look like dogshit because of retarded Euro safety/emissions laws which will only get tighter. Two door 335s in good condition will go for 20-30 grand ten years from now

>>24835115
The prices on nice ones have already gotten into retarded territory.

>>24841520
yeah but if you get in a wreck you fucking die

>>24841520
plus if you pick up a bitty and she sits on the back and maybe toots then you get flames from your exhaust instead of a hotboxed car.

>>24837776
People with actual money consider these cheap. A $50k NSX is nothing. But biz loses all their money so I understand why these seem expensive to you.

>>24841210
>calls my list of $20-80k cars not cheap
>suggests a $120k Ferrari 430

Also 996 turbos have already doubled in value the past ~3 years.

>>24839193
Cool car but sorry, no, won't have collector appeal like the limited R models. Still, you'll get lots of miles out of that and it'll be a worthwhile purchase.

>>24841007
Decent suggestion but I'd suggest going up to the C7 if possible. Good collector value since it's the last and ultimate version of the front engine vette.

>>24838808
you MUST drive them and maintain them to protect your investment. if you let them sit in a garage and never run them, your investment is rotting and it will not be as valuable.

>>24841520
KTM, cute. That piece of shit will burn up in two years.

>>24834615
>cars that aren't depreciating assets but an acutal investment
Rare NA Miatas in good condition

>>24842103
That's what I thought too. Only ever had japanese. I've tripled the miles it has since I bought it with no problems though. This bike power wheelies in 4th with the aftermarket airbox I put on and feels like it's going to rip my arms off. Get way more looks than my friend on his ninja everybody likes the ktm.

>>24834615
Used Pickup trucks and luxury cars

seriously, this year used car prices have gone up 16%, outperforming most indexes.

>Wholesale used vehicle prices (on a mix-, mileage-, and seasonally adjusted basis) increased 0.07% month-over-month in November. This brought the Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index to 162.0, a 16.6% increase from a year ago.

The non-seasonally adjusted monthly change was -1.2%, which was more in line with what we have been seeing in weekly price trends. The difference between the price metrics is primarily a result of the seasonal adjustment, which essentially left values unchanged from October. The last three years have averaged a 1.2% non-seasonally adjusted decline. Therefore, this November’s seasonally adjusted value was effectively unchanged.

Manheim Market Report (MMR) prices declined at a decelerating pace over the four full weeks of November, resulting in a 2.0% cumulative decline on the Three-Year-Old Index. In the last full week of November, the Three-Year-Old Index declined 0.3%, which was the smallest weekly decline in 11 weeks, and that decline was equal to the average decline for that week over the last seven years. MMR retention, which is the average difference in price relative to current MMR, averaged 99.5% for the four full weeks of November. The sales conversion rate averaged 52% over the same period, which was a decline from October and relatively low for this time of year.

On a year-over-year basis, all major market segments saw seasonally adjusted price increases in November. Luxury cars and pickup trucks outperformed the overall market, while most other major segments underperformed the overall market.

Source: https://publish.manheim.com/en/services/consulting/used-vehicle-value-index.html

>>24842011
>suggests a $120k Ferrari 430
If you think your jap four bangers will ever go for more than 10-20K you're out of your mind.
You unit bias faggots are the worst. Let me guess, you own XRP?

>>24836352
>We will never go back to manual gearbox rwd sports cars made for drivers because zoomies cant drive and want an ai computer to hold their hand

>>24841610
how on earth are you in the position to be calling anything gay with a trust-fund sodomite take like that
>t. owned an e90

you can buy some well preserved old luxury cars for 5k$ and flip them for 12k$ (like lex LS). weird market, cars that were old and outdated 3 years ago are now selling for 3x the price they were back then. I saw an older M3 listed for 10k$ and sold within 1 week. Few days later same M3 was listed by someone else for 2x that amount and it sold almost instantly.

>>24842593
Fuck zoomers they are going to cause the next huge war

>>24834615
My ranger was 3k and is my first vehicle plus I bought it with my own money. It's fun and I bang asian girls in it. Looks like this

>>24842325
>complains they aren't cheap
>complains they'll never go over $10-20k
So which is it, dipshit?
Also only 3 out of the 12 I listed are jap 4 bangers. Try again.

PS fuck XRP

>>24842593
This gives me the big sad. Maybe it's partly cause I grew up then but the 90s were a glorious time for cars.

>>24843017
digital killed the mechanical star

>>24834615
Nice car anon, was thinking about getting a GTR with my XRP gains. :)

>>24843017
Don't worry, all the zoomers are actually just destroying your glorious 90's rwd cars ripping em. Get em while you can.

>>24842728
All generations need to unite to purge the world of zoomers. I would gladly fight side by side with a boomer to destroy zoomie faggotry

>>24843212
Already have an SR20 powered 240sx and NB Miata :)

>>24834781
pretty much any 1st Gen Taco. I sold mine recently and made money on it without even trying.

>>24843243
>mfw when sold my drift s13 for pennies due to self hatred depression and personality crisis and regret it ever since

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How much is my 2001 Ford Expedition worth?

>>24843243
>Only person in this thread with cars that are actually appreciating

>>24835686
e39/e46 are both the last of an era

>>24843315
231Credit Negroid $453.21 biweekly payments to goyim

>>24843324
Not to rub it in but I've owned or currently own:
-911 SC
-987 Cayman S
-E36 M3

All of which have appreciated. It's not too hard to buy cars that hold their value, just get cool, somewhat limited shit that's already bottomed out on depreciation.

>>24843297
Sorry bro. If it makes you feel any better, they (really tuner cars in general) can be a real pain in the ass. I don't drive mine nearly as much as I'd like.

>>24837629
you absolutely can maseratis are the vehicle equivalent of RLC

>gtrr35
Nah
Real investment cars are not affordable

>>24834615
>>24834615

>>24839193
Lol no.

>>24843456
I never took it to a shop. Everything done on it was through my own blood sweat tears and hours of labor, including changing 2 clutches in my garage with only jackstands. Everytime I would break something I would limp it home and fix it. I sold it for literal pennies because I was too afraid of what society thought of me. 8 years later I have grown spiritually and see the error of my ways. It was my dream car when I got it and I let it go due to my spiritual immaturity and self loathing.

Acura nsx, vw buses, sprinter vans

>>24842770
Not a Ford guy but rangers are amazing trucks. My friend had one and that shit took us on some adventures

>>24834615