/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>24924854
I saw it coming but I had no money to invest

>>24924963
how did you see it coming, exactly? what were you seeing?

If you ain't loading up on puts you're a coward.

>>24926019
they announced tesla was going to be added to the s&p 500 back in early novembertesla i think when tesla was in the low $400 range.. easy money

>>24924854
tesla's mcap is roughly same as 10 of the worlds largest automotive manufacturers combined. elon cult to the max baby.

>>24924854
Clown economy.

>>24926274
>after the split
You didn't see nothing nigga. The real gains were made during the covid crash

"Hey, what if we built tunnels underground for cars to zoom along."

It's called a fucking subway, and it's more effecient than your dumbass hyperloop

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>Bubble

>>24926062
not touching anything to do with this clown world stock

>>24924854
TSLA is a better store of value and medium of exchange than BTC

>>24924854
>P/E ratio: 1,310.27

>>24927015
still better than buying bitcoin

>>24926445
It’s not really an auto company, there’s only a handful of companies that will lead us into space and human augmentation and Tesla is one of them

>>24927187
Does tesla own space x? Or are they doing their own space shit as well?

Also I get that tesla is into solar and batteries stations and all that. So they're not "just an auto company", but it does seem like that company is in a bubble, even if just in the short term.

>>24927187
>its not really a _____ company

lads gather around. whenever you hear people justify the price of a stock by changing the goalposts and claiming the company is actually in some other obscure industry or something ABORT THE FUCK OUT. PEAK HYSTERIA. ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT

>>24926698
kek

>>24927371
they’ve been saying this since $400 presplit

>>24927275
Tesla and SpaceX are both owned by Elon Musk, as well as Neuralink which most people are sleeping on

>>24927371
Bitcoin is _______ !

- a way to say fuck the banks
- the best alternative currency to fiat
- digital gold
- not a currency, but a store of value
- a way to make money together with the banks
- irreplacable
- a successful experiment that proves we can truly free ourselves from scammers and centralised pump and dump schemes
- not dependent on usdt

>>24927371
Try shorting the future and progress, see how that works out for you. Remove your own biases against “muh Tesla is expensive”. Amazon has been extremely expensive too forever, you can stop shopping at Amazon anytime. You can opt out of Neuralink or stay on Earth to fight off the raging hordes of poor people as well

>>24927539
This. If you're smart, TSLA and bitcoin are the only two things you'll hold.

>>24926445
Well that’s because it’s more than just a car company. It interfaces with his other companies. You can only buy SpaceX stock if you work there, so buying tesla is the next best thing

>>24924854
Did they retroactively change the chart to reflect the stock split for the preceding years?

>>24926972
That’s a sell signal if I ever saw one

>>24927539
delusion. now tell me what is TSLA P/E? its over 1,300. that is massively worse than dotcom bubble levels. imagine buying a massively overpriced stock from a company with a 1% profit margin who only recently started making small amounts of profit in 2019. you literally cant make this up. the stock is peak hysteria and has nothing to do with reality.

>>24927581
imagine thinking going into space is profitable. do you retards even remember NASA and how much of a waste of money it was?

>>24927845
P/E is a meme metric. My company's stock is $100 and my EPS is $0.01 so my P/E is 10,000 (muh overvalued). Many such cases in the past 10 years that have turned out to be mammoths of industry.

>>24924854
added to the sp500 at the top

great......

>>24926445
its a store of value not a traditional company

>>24926972
that guy is a retard.

>>24927187
tesla isnt leading you into space

>>24924854
lmao @ clowns who ridicule TSLA but buy magic internet money with open arms. I trade both, nothing matters in this FED driven markets, P/E only matters for commodity producers/value stocks,for tech the sky is the limit, all that matters is the charts+flows

>>24926972
Normally I hate bears, but I can't help but feel a lot of people are going to get dumped on hard.
On the other hand, this guy could be right, and in a world of .5% bond rates and people losing confidence in the dollar, TSLA could just be a vehicle to store wealth, because nothing else is providing returns outside of crypto and RE.

>>24924854
Please someone tell me if im being an idiot deeply researching companies and cryptos to only invest in the very best, when it seems i could just buy tsla and make 700% in a year cause markets are just a popularity contest now.

Will this last forever? Seems like investing on sheer popularity has worked pretty well for the past 10 years.. please tell me these people are gonna lose all their money somehow

>>24928060
Exactly, it's a clown market and I can understand why it's frustrating to rational actors who only know the "old" system. But you adapt or die.

>>24927684
Yes. AAPL has split twice since 2008 also, it's chart makes it look like it cost $15 when it was really $85-90

>>24928158
SP500 would be a better store of wealth then. That guy is just financially illiterate, mad a ton of money on TSLA, and thinks he's a genius.

>>24928306
Christ, TSLA is on a fucking tear.

>>24928519
TSLA did a 5-1 split so in pre split terms it's worth ~$3,337 dollars right now. Not bad considering it was like $200 a couple years ago.

>>24926019
>al gore says if you invest now in green energy you will be a millionaire
>you had 10 years

>>24928587
I used to watch a bunch of videos on richfags, bankers, investors, asset managers, ... who kept shorting tesla for years, they gotta be pissing and shitting themselves and their entire families.
Fucking leeches.

One of them pretended that you could simply hold a short "indefinitely"; pretending he didn't have to keep adding more and more to his exposure to keep from liquidating lmao.

>>24926445
>Tesla isn’t going up. Usd is going down

>Why yes, I invested $10,000 in Tesla in 2010 and now I have $1.3 million, how could you tell?

>>24927845
I remember Amazon being over 1,000 P/E years ago, I guess it was a terrible buy

>>24926972
>STONK Guru

>>24926496
This. Bought in Sept19, turned 7k into 77k and still holding

Sold this shit last year because of his autistic rants on Twitter. Fml

>>24928494
True, but people are getting greedy and want the highest returns possible.

>>24928877
was it 700B market cap and a car manufacturer?

>>24929417
boomers are dying retard

>>24926509
Have fun riding with disgusting negros in your little cuck train you faggot

>>24927488
I bought $20k of BPTRX to get in on spacex.. but its only like 2% of their holdings.

>>24929672
Fortunately I've accomplished shit in my life other than being born white, so I'm not a racist piece of shit.

>>24929698
Ahahaha cosmopolitan faggots like you are gonna be fun target practice, no matter what color your skin is. Dumb fucking city boy enjoy your precious niggers

>>24927531
You forgot highly volatile

AI is the future
Tesla has the AI
Midwits can’t see this and will seethe as tsla moons to $2000 next year

>>24929804
If AI in general is your bet wouldn't you want NVDA?

>>24929804
Tesla has the best* AI

>tHeYRE nOt OnLy a CaR COmpAnY THeYRe a TeCh cOMpaNY

>>24929748
Bet my aim is better, basura blanca

>>24929815
They’re not bad imo but tsla is better
Look into it
Look into how their self driving tech is radically different than all others
They are creating a brain that knows the difference between a plastic bag and a rock intrinsically, their competitors are just making super good radar

>>24929900
Look into how uber just gave up trying to compete with Tesla in the coming robo taxi wars

TSLA will be part of the S&P 500 starting Monday. Does that mean we hold through the weekend or do we sell today?

>>24929862
Hahaha aand it’s a greasy spic
I should’ve known since there’s at least 80 million of you nasty cockroaches infesting this country

>>24927015
still better p/e ratio than doordash, airbnb, nio
tesla is just the top of a massive iceberg of normie retardation than has hit the stock market
being a gold bull makes it scary becauses im actually starting to believe that people are so fucking retarded that they might put their money into bitcoin instead when fiat crashes

>>24929470
>he thinks Amazon makes its profits from eCommerce/retail
oh boy

>>24929804
>he thinks some driving AI is the best AI
>he’s not investing in $AI

Can I trade my shitcoins for Tesla stock yet?

>>24926509
I'm sure you're knowledgeable on city infrastructure to be able to make such an abhorrent statement with confidence.

>>24927869
>epic cyborg brainwearables
>muh space colonization
>muh space tourism
>we gonna liva on mars
>fancy pantsy electric self driving cars
I'm not investing because spaceshitis profitable but because numale millenial obsession with this shit is

>>24930176
Smart take. It's the same mindset film studios and successful game developers use.

>>24930009
show me where i said that

>>24924854
I hate that my sole reason for not going long was that Elon's dating an ugly girl obsessed with demons. Fuck you Grimes I could have been rich

>>24930176
all of those examples are completely absurd. space travel is not economical and no one but millionaires or higher would use it. the cyborg link is just theranos 2.0 all over again.

>>24928877
ok and now it has a p/e of 90ish. what is your point? you think tsla selling electric cars is all the sudden going to sell 1 billion of them? where is the profit coming from tsla? the company doesnt do anything besides make car batteries and luxury numale electric cars whereby only rich ppl buy them as their new soiboi toy

>>24930904
Their batteries are the big deal as is their data collection and management. The new car hype every other year is just another bonus to keep the normies interested and provide a cash boost in the form of pre-orders every so often.

>>24930904
Who gives a fuck what a company earns or not. If it doesn't pay dividends then the stock is toilet paper. The only question is whether people think one particular toilet paper is cooler than another at any given moment

>>24930843
The whole space tourism thing is going end up like flying cars.

>>24927845
>>24930904
You sound like a basic bitch high school economics textbook. Your smoothbrained hot takes have provided me with my answer. I'm holding TSLA through the weekend because nothing is more important than doing the exact opposite of what a retarded gorilla nigger monkey like you says.

I sold. Will be buying back on Monday when it drop again. Tesla is a pump and dump stock.

>>24926274
does every company continue to do well after S&P 500 inclusion?
>look at yahoo
Tesla could follow the same fate.

>>24927187
>It’s not really an auto company
>>24927581
>Well that’s because it’s more than just a car company.
I keep seeing this over and over from Tesla faggots. 98% of their revenue is from selling cars. So what the fuck are they, if not a car company? I don't care if they deal with cocaine and heroin - if it doesn't affect their profit/revenue, then it may as well not exist.

>>24926972
>re-defining what a stock is for one single company to explain absurdities
you fucking niggers are really gonna make me drop 10k on a far out put arent you?

>>24929951
>still better p/e ratio than doordash, airbnb, nio
Our garbage is better than this garbage!
???? is this the best argument you have for their valuation? other companies are equally illogical so therefore it is fine? jesus christ, we really are in clown economy

>>24927572
Only things I hold:
>Left hand, left nut
>Right hand, right nut
Your mom holds my dick tho

>>24927869
you're doing what you're doing today, right now... because of the space program.

>>24927972
They fear the chad south african entrepreneur

>>24926972
He's got to be trolling, right?

>>24929862
Why is it that non-whites focus so hard on skin color? Are they upset they aren't white?

btw if TSLA closes at 666 today due to Elon gaming his own stock with his love of meme numbers as he's done before, then you're all required to suck my dick

>>24926019
The manipulation? Everybody was screeming buy at 170 when every single article about elon and tsla was fud after fud while company in reality was exploding with brand new tech development and creativity from the inside.

Same reason you cunts sell when you hear fud on biz. Because you are too stupid to dyor and have no clue what the fuck you are buying or selling. So you overreact to everything.

Love TSLA shorts because you dumb faggots get more red in the face every dollar it goes up. In 3 years TSLA will be king of the battery market and you dumb fucks will still be saying it isn’t worth anything.

Reminder every boomer in America is going to have their portfolios sold off for 700$ tesla stock on monday

>>24932878
more like 555 bro

>>24931877
>Who gives a fuck what a company earns or not

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

breaths in

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahha holy shit. these are your typical tsla investors. not even concerned with if the company is valued properly based off its profit. absolute idiot. the economy and stock market is so fucked

>>24924854
Extremely over valued

>>24931907
musk literally and unironically goes on shows and says "hahahahah lets go to mars wouldnt that be cool" and all the mouthbreathing soibois ejaculate all over themselves and clap. its hilarious. absolute idiots

>>24932742
ok sure so then whats the point of going back up there?

>>24932637
dude its not about the company or financials or real things. tsla is entirely a religion do you believe or not. if you look at the financials and ev market this company is irrelevant and maybe like $10 a share or $20 a share max. tsla has become a special magical happening and people think elon musk is their savior and we will have ai cars and planes and wires connected to our brains and super batteries powering everything. its a fucking soiboi mouthbreathing reddit wet dream lmao kek.

>>24933433
What is Duracell and Energizer valued at?

Tesla is a fad.

>>24933896
doesnt matter, tsla soibois just shift the goalposts and bring up muh spacetravel or muh ai or muh brainlink.

>>24933883
>dude its not about the company or financials or real things. tsla is entirely a religion do you believe or not. if you look at the financials and ev market this company is irrelevant and maybe like $10 a share or $20 a share max. tsla has become a special magical happening and people think elon musk is their savior and we will have ai cars and planes and wires connected to our brains and super batteries powering everything. its a fucking soiboi mouthbreathing reddit wet dream lmao kek.
okay, cool, so it will pop eventually then....infinite growth models can't last with finite resources/interest

>>24933667
Sentinel is making my blockfolio happy

>>24932995
Fucking financial """advisors""" told me that Tesla was overvalued and that you shouldn't buy Tesla and if Tesla fail to go into S&P Nikola will instead go in and you should buy Nikola instead. Fuck these jew cunts fuck fuck fuck them ahhh I could have already made it

>>24932995
>>24934265
FYI this is what the Nikola stock looks like
Fucking jew fuck cunt I'm gonna exterminate them all one day in minecraft

>>24934265
>>24934334
To THIS DAY these fuckers tell you to buy Nikola instead of Tesla. Fuck this cunts I am this fucking close actually go on a fucking rampage

>>24924854
>knew about Tesla at $60 (before stock split)
>knew about ETH at $10
>knew about LINK at 20 cents
>-27k networth at 25
some of us just aren't going to make it.

It's not a bad company, but you are completely delusional if you think its current share price is an accurate picture of the company's value.

>>24934420
>being this stupid
Tesla haters will never understand how popular Elon is. I don't even like the product but I know it makes money.

>>24934265
imagine paying someone to guess for you

>>24928823
who is that?

>>24934511
why yes. it's worth MORE than 1300 times PE

>>24932684
There are more of them than you

>that dip today at 3:45 PM
fuck me I panic sold

Within five years Tesla will have a fully autonomous taxi fleet. If you don't get in now you are literally passing up free money.

>>24924963
I had money to invest, but I didn't because I listened to motherfucking Andrew Left.

How the fuck did Musk benefit so much off this crisis? Who's buying Teslas? I don't understand

>>24929804
you never opened a lisp program in your life

>>24928208
Nah you're being rational anon. Most stocks and many cryptos are still following logical models, we've just entered clown world. I regret missing out on cheap tesla stock like I regret not winning the lottery. It's a game of luck at that point so don't kick yourself for missing it.

>>24936046
it's a bet on Musk more than on the car. You have no idea how much Silicon Valley worships this guy.

>made 22k off it after the split
Im holding until Monday. I'll take my $72k and invest it in something else

>>24936365
>take profit
there is no better investment, keep DCAing into TSLA and bitcoin.