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>>25293848
Covid strain is fake news there has already been multiple new strains everyone is just reporting because of vaccine which isnt affecting by new strains

>>25293848
I have a strain of your nan pusset

we are hopeless

tired of caring for maskless retards and sick fatasses in the icu, get your shot when available.

>>25293848
it's fake and gay just like the first covid strain. you npcs need to quit falling for this shit.

inb4 muh cousin's 106 year old obese diabetic grandpa died of teh pandemic!

>>25293909
excess deaths debunks all covid conspiracies stfu already

>>25293888
Checked but I am gladly taking my chances like I have the last year, as a maskless fatass. See, is it that hard to leave people alone?

>>25293944
whatever you say, ari

>>25293888
>https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19
what does it say?

This is their plan for when the vaccine does nothing. The vaccine not working is going to be blamed on the strain that mysteriously appeared when the vaccine started being distributed.
Screenshot this

>>25293848
Hope it's lethal

>>25294006
retard. do you not understand the concept of excess deaths? it immediately debunks the implications you're drawing from that headline.

>>25294006

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

There you go

>>25293888
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
What does it say?

>>25294096
>BUT SNOPES DEBUNKED THISS!!!!!!! IT'S BEEN DEEEEBUNKED!!!!
kek, whatever you say schlomi.

>>25294115
get your anus checked

>>25293848
breaking news: shut it down

>>25294114
Covid originally thought to be highly contagious airborne virus is actually primarily transmitted via droplets. Masks do work, just as they do with the flu.

>>25294115
go be fat somewhere else

>>25294195
>go be fat somewhere else
kek, im 6'1" 170 pounds. basically a bean pole, faggot.

Oh gosh
I guess the only cure owning nothing and eating the bugs

>>25294115
>“it’s pretty rare that someone wouldn’t have at least one issue caused by coronavirus prior to their death, and all it means is that in 94% of cases people who had COVID-19 also developed other issues, or had other problems at the same time.”
Straight from the CDC. I also dont agree with the factcheck bullshit but it seems pretty fucking retarded not to get that a covid-19 symptom wouldnt show up before they died.

>>25294195
next time open hyperlink and read provided studies

>>25294115
>m-my internet evidence is true, yours is false reeeeeeee

>>25294272
they had other covid symptoms, such as gunshots?

just admit this is fake and you fell for a scam

>>25294298
>>Not denying the slur
Case closed for me

>>25294298
its just the flu

>>25294313
Alright so if I shoot myself in the foot then end up in the ER. Then as I am there die from covid. Does that mean I died from a gunshot? Also you believe that one source is right over the other why? Is it because you want a specific out come a bias already? Seriously, this anticovid shit is retarded as fuck.

>>25293848
>new covid strain
Didn't the Canadian leaks literally predict this a few months ago, they even predicted the time as the beginning of 2021
How are people not talking about this?

>>25294313
You obviously can't read.

>We have about five deaths, less than five deaths, that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds.”

>The DOH says there are about 100 cases where someone is listed as dying from coronavirus (or “probable” from coronavirus), but they can’t trace how the individual got the coronavirus. They can’t, then, definitively rule these cases as coronavirus deaths, though they’re being treated that way.

Now here's the important part:

>The state also has about 3,000 death certificates in their system that have deaths relating to symptoms of coronavirus. These are not counted in the death numbers because they have not been investigated fully yet.

So, in a state with over 2000 recorded COVID-related deaths, you have up to 105 cases that are potentially overcounted, but up to 3000 cases that are potentially undercounted. The number of deaths being overcounted pale in comparison to the number of deaths being undercounted.

>>25294195
>masks do work
So why doesn't the data agree with you? I thought you guys were all about #believingScience, but I guess that's only for when the science is presented in the form of a snarky buzzfeed-tier article. Also, if it's just transmitted via droplets anyway then why not just stand further than 2 inches away from the other person's face while you're talking?

>>25293888
Don't you have a dancing tik tok to make?

kek, if this is virus is anything more than a meme, its really shitty at being destructive
>have taken zero precautions to avoid getting it
>sometimes go days without washing my hands
>constantly rubbing my eyes and nose
niggers that are afraid of this were destined for failure anyways, so no real harm was done

How the fuck did it get to Colorado?

If people wake up and see it’s a planned hoax then not very. If they are still controlled by the fear narrative, yes , fucked.

>>25294415
This is also retarded for you faggots it either has to be on or off. There are only ever two options for wearing a mask one is you wont get it because it protects completely or two it doesnt do anything at all. Everyone already knows that masks dont protect but what is known is that the viral load is what does. If two people are using masks they sneeze some of it will be stopped by the mask then bigger dust particles that have covid attached to it or large droplets will get blocked. Then the other person wearing a mask will also block it while staying 6ft away from each other. Its not complete prevention its trying to get LESS of the viral load. That larger the viral load the worse the covid symptoms are going to be.

>>25293848
We have had millions naturally infected and recovered (natural immunity), and 2 vaccines EUA approved, also know that vital amine D cuts COVID mortality by 89%, and fucking horse dewormer works to prevent and cure it, so who fucking cares.

>>25294095
We were at 2.84 million deaths in 2018. Deaths this year are expected just above 3 million.

And this is with the largest generation in modern history preheating into their mid 70s (oldest boomers turned 74 in 2020).

Covid is a psyop for the purposes of the great reset

>>25294482
If you are just inside you won't get it most likely. Even if you get packages every day the virus load on the boxes will be extremely minor or not even existent.

>>25293848
coronavirus is fake and gay, and "muh new super deadly strain" is (fake and gay)^2

>>25294499
International airport probably.

>>25293888
Fuck you my dad died of it asshole

>>25294521
neoliberalism has no reason for a covid hoax. The only people that profit from this covid shit are people like Bannon who want manufacturing shifted from Chinks to street shitters.

>>25293872
There are no strains because you cannot get a virus from air or saliva.

>>25293848
wait i thought you guys were just memeing. you really think theres a virus? lmao

>>25293848
>the media has caused me concern
They have done their jobs.
There are over 100,000 known strains of cov2 and it seems they are counting any mutation as a strain, which is kind of puffy.
There is a very high probability of existing vaccines remaining effective against the strain in question as they are all genetically similar, nearly identical to each other.
>>25294568
>vital amine

>>25294539
why would the exact viral load matter if someone gets spit particles in your mouth by accident? This scenario where a cloth mask blocks spit from entering a person's mouth obviously isn't prevalent enough to affect the data.

>>25294226
GET IN ZE POD NOW

>>25294734
The vaccines aren't even inoculation vaccines so that's a moot point. The rna vaccines trigger the same spike proteins that are triggered by covid to fight the infection

>>25294716
I don't get the conspiracy theories that state the virus is completely fake, and the governments are using this fake virus to do bad things.

If the governments are so evil, then why would they care if they make an actual virus or not? Why would they care if they kill a whole bunch of people? They suddenly care about our peasant lives now?

It's just like the stupid fucking theories such as "mass shootings are all staged fakes with actors." Isn't it 100000000000000% easier to just actually kill innocent people? Since when did the evil government actually faked shootings because they didn't want to kill innocent people?

The mental gymnastics of conspiracy theorists are amazing.

>>25294762
>viral load matter if someone gets spit particles in your mouth by accident?
Are you retarded? The larger the viral load the harsher your symptoms will be. The virus attaches itself to spit. The mask blocks large LOADS of virus in your mask. It works even better when there are two people wearing.

>>25294872
Also I reddit spaced so you slow mouth breathing retards can read easier. You're welcome

>>25294583
Excess deaths in the US are ~350k, so 3.2 million sounds right. Usually, deaths rise by max ~50k year on year, not hundreds of thousands.

>>25294872
Your meme image is shit but I agree with your post. Your image is forgetting that Germany is a neoliberal shithole that changes whatever is within it into some globohomo shit. There are already muslim faggots muslim marrying homos and other weird shit.

>>25294499
Direct flights from Denver to London.

>>25293848
>virus
>"new strain"
Stop falling for this bullshit fud

>>25294611
>>25295067
But I thought Trump stopped flights between US and Europe?

>>25294872

>>25294971
Except the news stories say deaths to rise to just over 3m, not 3.2m.

And maybe the fact that a million more people were born per year from 1940 to 1950, i.e. a million more people reaching their 70s and associated end of life right now, might play a role in expected deaths should not be rising some nominal 50k but something substantially higher.

https://www.infoplease.com/us/population/live-births-and-birth-rates-year

>>25293848
its a fucking flu you retard
remember the flu you had all those years?
remember all your schoolmates with the flu all those years?
remember all your family members with the flu all those years?

now remember how 100% of those people ended up being completely fine, because alas it was just a fucking flu where you cough and sneeze for a couple weeks and then its over with?

this a new strain of another flu

How in the fuck you retards are even discussing this scam FUD ‘virus’ is beyond my comprehension don’t you fucking idiots know when you’re being sold a fugazi?

>>25293848
>Oh no another strain of the virus that over 99.9% of people recover completely from within 2 weeks, surely this will cause the country to collapse

I'm just going to buy $MMM and $PG, ride the fear spike, and sell as soon as people start to realize (again) that it's not that big a deal. Same as last time, it isn't hard

>>25294685
Neoliberalists no, but socialists, yes.

>>25295118
I am not debunking anything. I am not showing any evidence to the contrary.

All I am posting is a priori reasoning.

>>25293875
kek

>>25295117
The person that tested positive didn't travel, it's probably been here for a bit and was before that.

>>25295187
they are neolibs m8 and its why everything that comes into the country gets turned into weird mutations of itself. They know if they wipe germans off the map muds will be fine with neoliberal consooomer culture

>>25293848
Bong here. y'all Burgers be dead before the morn.
>unless you drink moar tea

>>25293848
I hope you're ready for round 2.

>>25295170
You clearly have not had rona. It doesn’t feel like a flu. Something about it is completely off. It absolutely destroys you even if you’re healthy young man like me.

>>25293848
What new strain?
I doubt if there was even an old strain
>grandpa is terrorised by the news and gets a cold
>oh God I can't breathe I have covid
>brought to the hospital and tested
>utterly bogus useless test gives a false positive
>stupid fucking nurses and doctors love the drama it's another case
>grandpa is stuck on a ventilator and is killed by the procedure
>oh my God another victim of the greatest plague since 1350AD
>tears applause we're frontline heroes it's like the Vietnam war all over again
I swear to god the media and medical staff and politicians perpetrating this hysterical hoax should all be shot and throw into pits the fucking idiots and globalism traitors
This is the greatest hoax in the last 3000 years of world history

>>25294096
Umm sorry sweaty but this has been rebunked by Snopes :)

>>25295020
It feels like the "virus is fake" theories are being artificially spread to distract people from actual conspiracies

>>25294872
>>25294872
This is so bluepilled it hurts. There are NO SUCH THING AS VIRUS RETARD. THE GERM THEORY OF DISEASE IS 100% BULLSHIT THAT HAS BEEN DISPROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN

>>25295185
topKEK. that meme is the literal embodiment of reddit the past few months. the basement dwellers have finally given a purpose in life, and they will ride that wave till the very end

>>25295258
Crazy how they stopped putting every single positive testing patient on ventilators and the mortality rate plummeted afterwards, your grandpa is a casualty of Orwellian groupthink. I hope your family gets their day in court against the hospital anon

>>25293848
Not fucked at all because covid is fake
Also totally fucked because everyone is an NPC and doesn’t know that

>>25294096
>get stabbed by a nigger
>blue haired hambeast creates an article saying "umm no sweaty, the nigger did not actually stab you"
>tfw

>>25295314
How do people get sick? From smelling foul odors? Bad humour? Damaged spirits?

>>25294096
>>25295280

Literally rebunked by the CDC in fact, maskfags seething lmao

>https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

>>25294499
There was some pozzed faggot or kike there who was willing to lie about it for the news story

It literally says on the cdc website that a positive test could mean your testing positive for the common cold. Only boomers should be stupid enough to fall for news programming, if you’re not a boomer and you believe in covid you should fucking kys

Yes, it is a scam. 99.95% survival rate for people that are not old and obese.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8843927/Just-0-05-healthy-70s-Covid-19-die-disease-study-claims.html

>>25294064
The war is not meant to be won. The war is meant to be continuous.

>>25295366
Shut up you condescending shit. Disease is caused by two main factors:
>poor diet
>malevolent spirits
People have known this for millennia, but the kikes have so utterly infested all fascets of western civilization that people no longer believe what's right in front of them. Now everybody supports GMO crops, rejects God and wonders why there is a global pandemic kek

Not a day goes by where I don't think about how ridiculous this all is... they seriously shut down the economies of the world, killed small businesses, took away middle class jobs and used a new strain of flu as the reasoning behind doing it. And somehow there are people who seriously look at this and think that this is all ok or this is what was necessary to get through this. Covid is seriously the most blatant world wide propaganda I've ever seen used before, the only positive of this whole thing is that it makes gullible and msm worshipping people out themselves alot easier than before, so now I know who to avoid and who I can interact with. The stupidest people are those who hit me with the "My grandma had diabetes, aids, herpes, one leg and one arm... and then she DIED OF COVID!!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me3eoFvMCqM

Read the title of this video and watch it and tell me this isn't all fear mongering being perpetuated by the MSM and world governments

I bought the dip on some US stocks, as did I when this same strain was confirmed in mainland Europe

Quite comfy, please pump moar of these nothingburger strains

>>25295129
>the news stories say deaths to rise to just over 3m
give me a precise figure and where the news stories are getting them from.
excess deaths are from the cdc, just like total deaths.

>should not be rising some nominal 50k but something substantially higher
50k is at the far end of the range of 20k-50k that it rises by yearly. 2018 to 2019 was only 16k

>1940 to 1950
with a ten year range you would expect a gradual if rapid increase, not a one off 7x rise over the highest expected rise. if this was a major factor it would have had some impact in the last few years, not instantly in one year. as previously noted 2018 to 2019 was only 16k. 2019 to 2020 is a 22x rise over that, it's the fucking pandemic.

german anon somewhere up in this thread was on point about the mental gymnastics.

>>25295598
We'll never convince each other so I'm going to agree to disagree.

>>25295258
>>25295337
>Crazy how they stopped putting every single positive testing patient on ventilators
Literally never happened retard, also you would be the first to cry for help when gramp is desaturating and grasping for air despite being on O2.

>>25295642
>>25295129
in fact i just checked the news stories myself and they back up what i'm saying.

>United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019.
https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

>>25295598
based schizo

>>25294872
People saying there's no virus are trolls. It's infinitely easier to create a virus than to convince the world there is a nonexistent one going around. Even the genomic sequence is known. The most believable "covid is a hoax" argument is that the virus exists but it's being blown out of proportion so governments worldwide can amass unprecedented power.

>>25293888
>wants a rushed experimental drug for a flu with a 99.9% survival rate
>calling people people retarded

>>25295708
You'll convince me if you can provide evidence that isn't some BS MSM/CNN 'wear the muzzle goy' news report

>>25294925
The gaping wound where your penis used to be will never make you a woman

>>25295642
>implying the excess deaths are necessarily the 6% of COVID deaths without comorbidity causes and not the thousands of people who didn't get a x-ray this year that led to an early-enough cancer diagnosis / thousands of increasing OD deaths arising from worsening economic conditions and an unbridled addiction issue ravaging the west

>https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/04/new-cancer-diagnoses-fell-sharply-after-coronavirus/
>https://www.foxnews.com/health/drug-overdose-deaths-top-record-cdc-coronavirus

Either coronavirus is causing excess deaths because of people not getting that lump checked out since the media keeps telling them they're literally going to die if they go outside, or the virus has cured cancer. The mental gymnastics are indeed crazy.

>>25295816
>The most believable "covid is a hoax" argument is that the virus exists but it's being blown out of proportion
Even this is easy to dismiss, deaths are actually undercounted.

>so governments worldwide can amass unprecedented power.
this is sort of seperate, of course there will be cynical opportunists in any crisis.

>>25295816
>The most believable "covid is a hoax" argument is that the virus exists but it's being blown out of proportion so governments worldwide can amass unprecedented power.
thats what everyone means when they say there no virus you retard. it doesnt even make a difference because the output is the same in either case

Imagine if Trump and his row of vacuum skull duckling republican congressmen indirectly caused the collapse of their beloved USA because they were careless and failed to set a good public health example.

the simple fact that we're this far into it and this thread is still swarming with deniers is a testament to how close they already are to accomplishing this.

>>25293848
Its not the fake virus you should worry about

>>25295598
Illuminated mideval doctors like Paracelsus said there was 5 causes of illness
Ens espirituale - spiritual, psychological causes
Ens nature - natural causes like food, also spirits from nature. Because gmo food does not have a natural soul, it causes illness
Ens astrale - astral beings
Ens veneri- misuse of sexual energy
Ens dei - illness directly from God or karma

So what you said. No mention of evil molecules floating around, this is an idea from the materialistic Kali Yuga when spiritual perception decreased near zero

>>25295745
>Literally never happened

>https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/04/22/2035254/researchers-to-doctors-stop-putting-covid-19-patients-on-invasive-ventilators
>https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/20/925441975/studies-point-to-big-drop-in-covid-19-death-rates

Eat more bugs

>>25295816
>The most believable "covid is a hoax" argument is that the virus exists but it's being blown out of proportion so governments worldwide can amass unprecedented power.
That is whats going on

>>25293848
oh no fat people that were a drain on society and those who were inches away from death already are in fact now dying, how’s that bad for the economy?

>>25295816
Except the virus has never been isolated

>>25295816
The governments worlwide are getting rekt by it, would you like being a president/prime minister when the economy is going to the shitter and millions of people are losing their jobs? Not really comfy.

In the meantime chinks have released a man made virus from their lab which has considerably destabilized an unprepared West and noone bats an eye. They're literally waging biological warfare on us.

>>25295839
you'll never be a women

>>25295907
>failed to set a good public health example
>US ranks 76th in the world for case fatality rate, behind Belgium, Italy, Mexico, the UK, France, Sweden, Canada, and many other developed nations

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

How fucking retarded can you get?

>>25296049
Kek Canada has literally had like 100 people “die from goyvid” that were in an old folks home

>>25294225
Cool dude

>>25293909
It's not that far removed anymore. My spouse's dad had it. My uncle has it currently. I'm in bum fuck nowhere.

>>25294872
>19,400,0000 cases in the US (CONFIRMED ONLY)
>336,000 "deaths"
>1.7% mortality rate MAX
>Remove deaths from old age, heart attack, cancer, ETC (about 6%
>Add unreported cases (CDC estimates 40% of cases are asymptomatic)
>"I don't get the conspiracy theories"
That's because you're an idiot.

>>25295244
You're thinking about the cold. Flu will "destroy" you for a few days to a few weeks.

>>25296126
*about 6% of reported deaths are from corona alone

>>25296087
If you factor out the number of people in New York that died from the virus because Cuomo ordered in March that nursing homes had to admit people with coronavirus, the US ranks in the bottom 20 for case fatality rate. No fucking clue why New Yorkers haven't recalled him yet.

>>25296103
I've had it and my whole family has had it, we're all fine

>>25295818
kek

>>25295244
If you show symptoms you weren't healthy to begin with, or you had a stronger strain of the flu and not corona.

The virgin covid basement dweller:
>spends all day on reddit reading about case numbers and vaccines
>accepts that they have no control over their own lives
>doesn't do anything in fear of dying from covid yet:
>never exercises and binge eats junk food into obesity, not realizing that is in fact whats killing them
checked and rekt

>>25296174
Glad for you, anon. Not true for everyone, especially not true if it mutates.

>>25295943
You've never even entered an ICU brainlet, you put people on ventilators as the last resort when they enter respiratory failure and their blood oxygen is so low that they will be brain damaged in few hours and do a cardiac arrest if you do nothing.

"putting every single positive testing patient on ventilators" literally never ever happened, now kys.

>>25296258
The mutation will also have fake death numbers

>>25295888
>of course there will be cynical opportunists in any crisis

Largest transfer of wealth in human history and you think this isn't a conspiracy.

>>25294583
flu deaths have been climbing with rising average in westerl world linear all 20 century and before this year the average flu season death was accelerating

is the vaccine supposed to work for the "new strain?" if not, then nobody should take the
vaccine. it is starting to sound like a complete bullshit. there have never been such flu in history, flus and sars come and go by nature they dont evolve to endless new "strains"

>>25293848
> thinks america is not already collapsing
USA is nothing but a third world country with a select few rich people

>>25295849
This factors are puny in comparison to covid anon.

>falling cancer diagnoses
delayed cancer screenings and treatment due to lockdowns/hospitals overrun by covid is expected to cause about 10k more colorectal and breast cancer deaths. add the other cancers into the mix, especially lung which kills the most, and the figure rises to about 50k (based on relative death rate). And this is expected over the next DECADE, not in 2020 alone.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/368/6497/1290

>thousands of increasing OD deaths
Drug overdoses have increased in 2020 by 13% on average over last year. That accounts for roughly 10k excess deaths.

>>25295244
I had it, felt weak and out of breath for a week. Brother had it, no symptoms. Trump had it, was sick for 1 day. It's bullshit.

>>25296220
Case numbers here are at a record high despite a recent national lockdown and extremely high restrictions all around. The new strain is being blamed. We are at 50k per day where as throughout this we've been 10-20k per day at the peaks even when things were relatively open and free. I thought as soon as I saw the news that america will be fucked when it hits there. You've had double the number of cases/million throughout already.

You don't want covid if you can help it. I knew nobody who had it at first, but as it has gone on I've known more and more people. Two have died and several others have pretty bad long term issues, loss of sense of taste and smell, loss of lung function, loss of sensation in toes and fingers.

>>25296258
True for 99.997% of Americans aged 19 and under, 99.98% of Americans aged 20-49, 99.5% of Americans aged 50-69, and 94.6% of Americans aged over 70. The loss of a single life is tragic and I do feel terrible for everyone who loses a loved one for this or any reason, but I've seen firsthand what the lockdowns are doing to hundreds of millions of the poorest people around the world that don't live in luxurious enough countries to be able to afford a year-long slow down in the global economy without it putting their very survival at risk. I think governments were completely rational to start shutting things down in March when we didn't know a lot about this virus. Since then, we've learned a ton and case fatality rates are falling across Europe and the Americas, along with most of Asia and a good bit of Africa. At some point the cost of the shut downs is doing a lot more damage to a lot more people (via starvation, condemnation to lifelong poverty, drug overdose, suicide, and the worst: marriage) than the actual virus. I'm not getting the vaccine since I've already had it, probably wouldn't get it anyways since I'm not an at-risk demographic, but if it finally gets western elitists to stop shitting themselves at the expense of the lives of the poorest people in the world then I'm all for the vaccine.

>>25296290
>what is hyperbole?
Proportion of ICU patients being put on ventilators in the US, and most of Europe, has dropped substantially since May. An hero faggot

>>25296526
Nice, now factor in heart disease too and you're already at over half of the currently expected excess deaths. Now account for the fact that 94% of reported COVID deaths had fatal comorbidity factors and ask yourself why you still watch CNN

>>25296577
>Two have died and several others have pretty bad long term issues
>implying people on 4chan know more than 10-20 people
quit larping you faggot

>>25293909
this and /thread

>>25293848
>he doesn’t know collapse was the plan all along

>>25294708
Spotted the retard

Fake strain for a fake virus, so that the fake pandemic can crash the real economy and CRUSH idiots like the OP.

>>25296637
>Nice, now factor in heart disease too and you're already at over half of the currently expected excess deaths
KEK you're nowhere fucking close to a quarter let alone half.
Excess cancer and drug ODs only account for, combined, 15k excess deaths out of 350k-400k (50k figure for cancer is projected over 10 years, not for 2020 alone). heart disease doesn't kill much more than cancer yearly so can't imagine the projected excess deaths for it are much higher. even if we double the cancer figure that takes total excess death from cancer, heart disease and ODs to about 25k.

>>25293848
We are going to collapse. We were going to collapse. This scamdemic was the psyop for the controlled demolition of our economy, slowing money velocity and killing small businesses in favor of corporations. Its a clown world. They knew the little ice age was coming back. Thirty years of global warming propaganda and it is getting fucking cooler. The new eddy minimum will bring changing grow zones, shrinking grow zones, extreme weather and all manner of other crazy shit.

>>25296784
The projections are based off "models" that aren't incorporating any data about excess cancer deaths or significantly decreased diagnosis rates. I would not wipe my dog's ass with such models.

Additionally, but unrelated,
>t. sciencemag.org

>https://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2020/12/time-reckoning-how-scientists-confronted-anti-black-racism-and-built-community-2020

Kek'd irl

>>25293909
when did covid began? i remember last december they reported that flu season was historically low due to warm winter. that was before covid. before 2019 winters flu season
deaths have been steadily climbing for years due to aging population however

>>25296637
>94% of reported COVID deaths had fatal comorbidity factors
also dumb argument
Literally the vast majority of americans have comorbidity factors, they aren't literally on death's door it includes obesity, diabetes, asthma, hypertension etc. which are extremely common. if a fat fuck dies of cancer the fact that he's obese (a comorbidity factor) doesn't mean he didn't die of cancer.

>>25295936
lol you are so gay

>>25293848
well normies get scared by anything
financially they could dump the stocks and btc if there would be another declared bs pandemic

>>25296290
Neither have you. Hospitals were encouraging early intubation with respiratory distress (s/sx tachypnea) even with normal o2 readings due to comorbidities like obesity and elderly and cardiac disease. Then these people started dying.

I am an emt. Hospitals aren't packed (they are dead) and people are t dying from covid. Even my fellow co workers are too brainwashed to even realize this. They love the hero status everyone gives us so they just roll with it. This whole thing is a joke and a meme. Im not even political just facts.

>>25296944
>This disease that only kills 0.02% - 0.5% of anybody in the working age population means we need to shut down the entire world until it's completely cured, also fuck all the poor people because we know better than they do what's good for them

Wew lad

It's an over reaction an the WEF is going to use it to enslave us.

And fyi, elderly nurse got 1/2 covid vaccine. Her arm is all fucked up. She can barely move it and says literal pain is shooting up and down her shoulders despite already being on arthritis medicine, steroid pills. She is in misery so the wife did all her tasks for her so all this rn had to do was chart and keep a heating pad on her shoulder.

>>25296637
based

I'm not scared of a flu lol

>>25295624
What dip, everything is still ATH

>>25297014
My cousin is married to an anesthesiologist. His fb page literally has a Superman s drawn into his chest cuz he’s such a fag.

>>25294096
>factcheck.org
kek

>>25297111
Checked. Every anesthesiologist I've met is either insanely chill or is a painfully obvious redditor. No in between.

>>25296944
It means he’s already predisposed to being a faggot. Covid just made him turn full faggot.

>>25297025
Never said anything about lockdowns or what our response to the virus should be you utter buffoon. The point I am making is related to the number of people it kills. I personally am against lockdowns.

getting back to OPs point, they (Govt, etc) do seem to be shitting themselves from this 'UK variant', some reason. The whole thing had died down otherwise, was all 'be back to normal in Jan' and so on. Now? - 2021, or at least the first half of it, being written off as well. The projections cannot be good, and when coronachan can throw up New Improved 70% More Catchy! variants in this timeframe, we maybe indeed all fucked anyway.

>>25296935
>significantly decreased diagnosis rates
that is precisely what it is modeled on, as well as reduced treatment.

>excess cancer deaths
show me the data.
You do realise that in the vast majority of cases cancer, even if left untreated, is something that won't kill someone until years after diagnosis? Meaning the vast majority of excess cancer deaths would have no impact of the excess death figures in 2020...

>>25296938
After chinese were vaxxed for flu in December 2019.

>>25296443
>flus and sars come and go by nature they dont evolve to endless new "strains"
why do you think there's a new flu shot every year, retard?

>thinking governments are good and not just looking for any excuse to expand their powers

>>25297111
You have no idea how bad it is. My co workers are satire tier normies. I am thinking of quiting. I can't hide my power level anymore and everyone hates me.

>>25293968
yes, because you're too fucking arrogant and retarded to not subject people that would rather not succumb to the bioweapon when literally all you have to do is wear some cloth over your face and nose when you go outside.

>>25297232
>>25297388
And you're unable to defend your point without bringing in dubious models from what amounts to a medicine tabloid publication that writes pieces celebrating black people in the ocean.

>show me the data.
Already posted the link but here you go
>https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/04/new-cancer-diagnoses-fell-sharply-after-coronavirus/
>Compared to Quest’s baseline period from January 2019 through February 2020, during the seven weeks from March 1 through April 18, the mean weekly number of newly diagnosed cancer patients plunged 46.4% for all six types: breast, colorectal, lung, gastric, pancreatic, and esophageal. The biggest drop was 51.8% in breast cancer and the smallest decrease was 24.7% in pancreatic cancer.
>In the spring, Epic reported that screening appointments for cancers of the cervix, colon, and breast plummeted between 86% and 94% in March. In July, screenings were still down but by far less, from 29% to 36% in these three cancers.

Dismissed

>>25295816
There is a virus.
Its the common cold virus, which we know already for millennia.
Its infinitely easier to fake a pandemic over a existing virus, than to create a new one.

Didnt know so many doctors and politicians browsed /biz/ wow

>>25296501
no it isn't, shut the fuck up and go back

>>25297563
Gotta find something to do while all the nurses are twerking in the parking lot for their tik tok videos

>>25294096
>www.factcheck.org

>>25297491
explain anon, I love hearing about the cuckery of normans

>>25294096
>https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/
This particular fact may be true but you still are a basedfaggot for bringing up this bullshit site.
>>25297563
I trust BIZ more then a random doctor and you should too.

>>25297443
...are you just fucking retarded on purpose?

>>25297550
>unable to defend your point
You're unable to even construct a point, you're literally just speculating that lower diagnoses accounts for hundreds of thousands of excess deaths which makes zero fucking sense on multiple levels, most of all because " in the vast majority of cases cancer, even if left untreated, is something that won't kill someone until years after diagnosis. Meaning the vast majority of excess cancer deaths would have no impact on the excess death figures in 2020..."

>Already posted
dumbass i already know the diagnosis data which is accounted for in that model. The data I'm asking for is one excess deaths from cancer. You have none, just baseless speculation.

>>25297533
Utterly retarded. They don't do anything except give you pneumonia.

>>25297443
>>25297751

wrong thread

>>25293848
How do we short the US dollar?

>>25295816
Read Dr. Stefan Lanka, faggoy.

>>25297765
>They don't do anything except give you pneumonia
Actual down's syndrome.

If you drink your urine you have nothing to worry about. Remember anons, urine is not waste like we’ve been lied to it’s ultra filtered blood plasma that has all the critical antibodies, stem cells, minerals, volatile salts, enzymes, proteins, vitamins, hormones and amino acids to heal yourself from any sickness.

Urine is your own personal vaccine and a holographic imprint of who you are.

>>25296787
The planet is getting colder because the sun is moving away from the other stars.
Recently ice caps had appearead in Mercury, which is planet closest to the sun and very hot.
By 2030 the temperate areas will frozen up, and thats why the elite have a giant bunker in the arctic.
You can also notice the plandemic propaganda is not as pronounced in tropical countries as it is in temperate countries (Australia being a exception). Tropical countries will have a temperate climate by 2030, and will still be habitable.

>>25293848
with the election fiasco, growing political and economic divide, racial tensions, msm, the economy, rise of china, censorship, monopolies, the resentment of people, anons- you are witnessing a chapter in US history that is about to be interesting for future generations

>>25297875
To add to this, your body is like juicer, the bad stuff comes out the back and the good stuff comes out the front.

>>25297555
Dude is everything OK with you? We already know that some common cold viruses are coronaviruses, but it doesn't mean that covid-19 is the common cold. What might be an issue is if different types of testing will misidentify covid-19, but PCR doesn't and I'm pretty convinced that antigen testing doesn't either. Don't know about any others because the media here rarely get any more detailed than "a new form of test".

>>25297883
Just to clarify things up: if the sun moves away from other stars, it will need more em energy to move, hence decreasing its emf. This means it will heat less than before, causing a ice age.

>>25297760
>>25297802
Excess deaths is a total bullshit and fake concept.
The baseline is theoretical and this way there are "excess deaths" every year especially in winter.https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps Here in the first graph you can see the theoretical grey line and then the "excess deaths" every year. You can see the spike in deaths from the lockdown where they shut down everything and elders were isolated like never before and died of that. Then the recent (for winter pretty) increase which is much lower then in spring proofes the spring increase didint come from Corona since now are much more cases. Corona is a middle bad flu like 2018.
In Countries like Germany where we dont have the fake "excess death" scam this year almost the same amount of people died then normal.

>>25294114
All of those studies study either cloth masks or some shitty surgical masks. Of course they wont protect the wearer well.

You need to use actual N95/99 respirators that are fit-tested to your face (no beard or even stubble can be present). When will you retards understand this. Shitty cloth masks only stop droplets well if the wearer is infected

>>25297978
>In Countries like Germany
You mean a country that has drastically lower covid deaths per capita than the US has drastically lower excess deaths?
No shit

>>25298126
Hahahaha I don’t wanna live this way nigga. I mean shit, I could understand maybe thru mid summer. Fuck this all... it’s all bullshit. I’m walking around a pretty busy town today in the south and 80% of these faggots are wearing masks outside. It is all fucking over at this point. ITS FUCKING OVER. I don’t even care about my shitcoins anymore. The world is irrevocably fucked beyond repair.

When the food shortages hit by mid year I’m going to be so happy. I’m going to be laughing in all the normies faces who allowed the govt to lock everything down, which enabled the govt to tear down this nation and force them into starvation. My family, friends... going to be laughing at them all. Cuz the govt could have never gotten away with their fascist tactics without millions of these idiots.

>>25298126
Why do i want to "protect" myself from something?
From this >>25297978 ?
Anyway i found a way to squeeze my mask in a way so that there is a canal below my mouth and i can breathe free. And people dont even see it. Because the damage the high CO2 i inhale with masks is greater then 10 Covid 19 infections.

If this thread is any indication then I supposed coronavirus is here to stay in the US because of mouthbreathing retards refusing to wear a mask. Congrats morons, we will have a neverending lockdown because of you. All the while China will pull ahead because their citizens actually give a damn about stopping the virus and are having pool parties while officer niggerkiller will jail you for not wearing a mask on the street.

If it were possible I would kill every covid-denying Trump supporter in America.

>>25298282
Shut the fuck up faggot. Like your face diaper is some magically shield. Kill yourself twice

>>25298282
No you fucking retard it’s because China stopped giving a fuck about it

It’s a massive scam that 99.99% of people recover from

>>25298193
The concept is STILL fake and i bet 2020 not substancially more people then normal died, and the more people are because of the lockdowns.

>>25297259
Drink your urine

>>25298282
>Ccp forces their citizens back to work
>Virus no longer exists
Stand in traffic please

>>25297853
Imagine believing this whilst owning a computer lmao

>>25298193
>excess deaths?
And again you faggot are just ignoring my point about "excess deaths" beeing a bullshit concept.

>>25298282

Isn’t this what everyone on 4chan wanted? Chaos? Everything was so pozzed anyway. It was all so degenerate. I love the thought of soiboi bartenders and former DJ’s stocking shelves at Walmart now.

>>25298312
>>25298354
>>25298379
>>25298395
I see I triggered the trumpies. This is your legacy- I'm so glad you Made America Great Again!

>>25298395
These don't even make sense.

>>25298282
What the fuck is going on, where are these people coming from? You are so stupid it hurts. Masks cant stop this, THE GOVERNMENT is the reason for the lockdown, they did it. Not the virus and least of all people who dont care, they got the virus anyway long ago and are immune by now. Evene if everyone would always follow these "rules" the virus would not go away. The government started this tyranny.

>>25298470
Seems like government action works!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4LwLDiRHE
Oh wait, you'd need a competent government instead of the Trump administration to oversee a pandemic.

>>25298443
This has nothing to do with Trump you fucking retard.

Your destroying a functional economy because your scared a fat 90yr old will die from the flu.

>>25298443
Im not even american, but you should eighter educate yourself or go back to plebbit

>>25298497
>Joe senile pedophile China Biden
>Kamala fake nigger blowjob Queen Harris
>competent government

>>25298497
They stopped testing and now its the flu again like it always was. And im german, you guys say "we are doing better then the US" always but if the virus starts getting out of control once it never can get eradicated, thats a fact. But you can stop caring, its nothing anyway>>25297978

>>25298513
>Im not even american
Then your opinion is worthless.
>>25298540
The damage is already done.

me, to my normie coworker a few weeks ago:
>hey anon, what if the world leaders and scientists came out and said covid was all a hoax to test humanity and see how much power they can exert over the masses?
>id say they were full of shit to make people feel safe again
its unironically all over lads

>>25298247
>It is all fucking over at this point. ITS FUCKING OVER. I don’t even care about my shitcoins anymore. The world is irrevocably fucked beyond repair.
I agree, it fucking sucks so hard even for a shut-in neet like myself. But I think it will be over by summer.

>>25298263
Yeah I don't even know what to say to you anon. Even if you don't care about protecting yourself you can at least avoid spreading it to others so that we don't have to deal with this bullshit any longer than necessary.

>>25298443
Fuck you and that orange mongoloid. Your mask won't protect you from what will happen soon

>>25298282
Based

>>25298470
>THE GOVERNMENT is the reason for the lockdown, they did it.
Yes, almost every government in every country just did it for fun

Imagine actually paying attention to what (((journalists))) say.

>>25298282
Based

Dumb basement dwelling conspiracy theorists

>wear the mask
>eat the bugs
>don’t have kids
>climate change world gonna end
>watch the porn
>take the pill
>watch Netflix
>so brave
>BLM
>clap for front line workers
>stay inside and have those joke of $600 while we give all the business to mega corps abs slaughter middle class
>love is love fuck your dog bro
>immigrants make us better
>diversity is strength

FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

>>25296427
its just a conspiracy because you arent benefiting, or it would just be called the plan

>>25297703
Co worker constantly saying this script that he is actually secretly happy about the virus because people now understand "the vital role we play that is so often overlooked" as he has cheese on his face from the firehouse sub his fat ass is eating because we have nothing to do. he is saying all of this "heroes" shit on a day we have literally done NOTHING at all. It is practically paid vacation. The nurse meme is not a meme everyone is on tik tok all day trying to go viral. I have heard the word viral more in this year referencing their shitty retard videos than I have about the actual virus.

Every day these people talk about how swamped we are and how strong and great. They have been buying us expensive catering food every single day and I'm sure its off the gov dime somehow.

There is one guy that I thought I could trust and I sort of asked him what he actually thinks about all this I confided in him that I saw through the bs and he agrees. Next day everyone asking me why I think it is fake and want me to show then the studies for my beliefs.

Am I in a dream? Is everyone in some sort of mass trance? Do people really just coast along with everything if it makes them look good?

I am about to quit. I'll get paid less but I'd rather be like a mailman or something.

>>25294521
imagine actually believing a word of this

>>25298662
>Yes, almost every government in every country just did it for fun
For fun, well what government doesnt like to stop protests by decrede, control peoples life, control with whom they can meet, control when they are allowed to leave their house, make them dependant of the government, etc etc
>>25298598
>we don't have to deal with this bullshit any longer than necessary.
Well if i know i have it i actually will care a bit. But this concept of you have an obligation to subjecting your entire life not spread a flu to others is bullshit. Total bullshit.Even if Covid 19 would be a really deadly disease it would be bullshit. If somebody would be afraid he can stay home. But poeple who want to party still should always be allowed to do so and by that create herd immunity. If there were no measures Covid 19 would have ended in May. The people who care are the one who make it last longer.

>>25298680
They exist and exert influence. You might not agree with the concept or with everything that is said, but to ignore it is to limit yourself for no reason except stubbornness. Others will pay attention and society as a whole will make decisions which will impact upon you.

>>25298498
Without restrictions everybody will catch covid at some point. It'll kill lots more people than currently die to comparable illnesses like the flu and we'll be living with it forever. There is a high likelihood that it'll mutate at some point. There are many good reasons to control it while we figure it out.

OOC but americans have this insane commitment to 'the economy' where preserving 'the economy' goes above and beyond preserving humans and human activity. It was working (was it?), it was the best thing ever (was it?) destroying it will be the end of everything (will it?). Surely anybody with an understanding of markets will understand there is opportunity in volatility. I don't know why so many seemingly live on the bread line with starvation/destitution close at hand if they can't get out and work business as usual.

>>25295959
or people that admittedly don't know shit try to err on the side of caution.

>>25294872
oh hes just retarded

>>25298859
damn. society's cuckery unironically makes me wanna kms sometimes. on the bright side its made me apathetic towards pretty much everything, allowing me to go all in on crypto without giving a single shit whether I lose everything

>>25298959
I literally don’t care if I die or anyone else dies from Covid. Go to church and pray bitch if your scared.

The shutdowns are unconstitutional and destroying the entire country. Killing the economy will indirectly kill way more people. For every percentage point of unemployment you get thousands of suicides. Doesn’t even take into account drug overdoses abs marital abuse problem

Your a bitch fuck you

>>25298598
>it fucking sucks so hard even for a shut-in neet like myself.
I mean i feel with you and you sound like a nice guy, in contrast to the other believers.
But stop this victim blaming the government started, blmae the ones who started this lockdown.

>>25299120
Then start wearing a mask you fucking scumbag. Typical screeching trumpnigger... you ARE the problem. You probably hate jews too but voted the most pro-israel president into power. When this country collapses I will be coming for you. Your daughters and wives will be my slaves.

>>25295244
I know ppl age of 55-65 that just lost their sense of smell. Literally a nothing burger.

>>25299189
ALLAHLALALALALLALALALAL go fuck a goat

>>25299099
I'm with you there anon I'm all in too but guys like us aren't gonna make it in the new norm... all the money in the world won't save us.

>>25299120
You don't care if you or anyone else dies? Good for you bro. I've got family with health problems like cancer and friends with immune disorders. I've got children too so I'm always mindful of my role in supporting others.

Shutdowns are unconstitutional, but I'm not from a country with muh constitution so whatever. I don't think that wearing a mask and observing social distancing is a big fucking deal and practically nothing is closed here anyway. The collapse in demand is because of the pandemic more than because of the measures to control the pandemic.

Also economic suicides/drug overdoses/marital abuse to be honest while I'm usually pretty empathic I don't give a shit about scum bags and losers. Maybe minimum wage will go up and some of them can finally buy property and stop shitting the place up. Maybe instead of killing themselves they should do something about it.

>>25293848
they trying to get my linkies for cheap again?! lol never selling

>>25299189
Again, fucking based. These dumb basement dwelling hillbilly faggots that voted trump are cancer.

Yes all governments and the democrats decided to lock everything down to exert control. It’s all part of “the plan”, right?

The “new world order” Destroy the economy and inflate the dollar because it’s just a flu bro.

Yep everyone is ignorant but you basement dwellers who haven’t left your house got it all figured out

Other countries easily got through this, but the US still has trouble because of you stupid conspiracy faggots

>>25299189
I wear one everywhere I just understand it won’t do shit. I don’t want to make faggots like you cry.

>>25299333
If you have cancer or are worried about dying stay inside and let everyone else go back to work

>>25299501
can you make it more painfully obvious that you came from reddit? fuck off nigger, back to where you came. over there you can continue to jerk each other off for being covid heroes

>>25299333
>I've got family with health problems like cancer and friends with immune disorders
>I don't give a shit about scum bags and losers.
But you're family and friends are losers of genetics

>>25299632
kek. I'd love to rip open his dad's face mask and breathe right on his faggot fucking face.

>>252996333
>lifetime risk of cancer now 2/3.
>immune disorder like crohn's

>>25299579
I think the point is that while having cancer is a very specific situation from the perspective of the person with cancer for society it is a constantly renewing pool of people with cancer which is difficult to manage.

>>25299632
topkek. also find it hilarious how all the niggers defending lockdowns and mask wearing are using plebbit spacing

>>25299745
If you have cancer stay home. If you are an obese faggot stay home. If you are scared little bitch stay home.

Problem solved reopen the economy. Get a vaccine if you want. Wear a mask if you want.

Nuke China

Problem solved

>>25299698
He is a homophobic nutjob who doesn't leave the house and lives in the middle of nowhere so ... don't see that working out for you champ.

>>25299750
Reddit took "reddit spacing" from 4chan you retard. Only newfags and redditors whine about reddit spacing. It's like calling pepe. "reddit frog".

>>25294708
These are the people giving you investing advice.

>>25294762
This is why people can fuck an hiv positive person and not get hiv. But if you keep doing it the odds of getting it approach 100%. All because of viral load.

>>25293848

Remember all the shit that went out of stock in the store last time? BUY!

If civilization is gonna crumble, I want to get a good house out of it.

>>25293848
>he still thinks COVID is a real threat and wasn’t a banker scam
exactly how new are you?

cum cum cum cum cum

>>25293848
covid is fake, the pandemic and race riots are the desperation play to buy time and erect defensive positions before the dollar copllapses

>>25294678
Sure he did.

>>25295244
I had i had it once and i died. Im living proof that covid 19 can kill you. Im lucky to have survived.

>>25293848
I see there are alot of NPCs on biz right now. The solution to covid is simple: stop watching the news. Niggerbrains think there's some virus to control. The only thing that's going to be controlled is *you*. Don't think about *if* the new strain hits the US, think about who gains from a federally mandated government shutdown.

jesus christ the amount of liberal retards on biz right now. fucking sell signal

>>25294095
keep repeating the same thing and maybe it will come true
>>25295642
imagine being this much of a retarded faggot that you'll go to any lengths to defend burger CDC propaganda, even after all the statistical evidence anon has given you and you just piss it away because cognitive dissonance. literally off yourself tranny, COVID is a flu, masks dont work, you beg for the kikes the enslave you.

>>25301379
this x6 gorillion fren, I already did

>>25296526
>cancer screenings drop because hospitals overrun
the hospitals in almost all of the country have been empty since March you dumb fuck
>>25296944
>obesity
>"not on deaths door"
same thing faggot
>>25298193
kys tonight

>360k Americans are already dies from Covid
>Every days many more are dying
>Projected at least 560k until spring
Dude, it is just a hoax.

What exactly should happen you faggot believe, this is not a meme and real. Fuck you stupid brainwashed idiots.

>>25298859
What do you think is fake exactly? You can't deny that there's a virus killing a lot of people.