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>>26064562
We're not fat pussies like Amerimutts who require cooling stations when it's 20 degrees celsius

>>26064562
you're dumb we do this all the time. it's so easy but no one seems to notice because we don't need to struggle to get basic cold medicine in these parts.

just shut up and keep thinking your justice can be decentralized and doled out on kleros and we'll all be happier

>>26064608
You'll never be a superstate.

>>26064562

OP i think thats genius

something to consider: european houses are much older and made of more solid material (brick, limestone, shingle roof, etc) so that may add difficulty adding HVAC in comparison with american homes which are mostly new developments that add hvac right from the beginning

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>>26064608
Exactly this.
You fat sacks of shits can't stand 5 minutes of your own natural climate because your blood is 80% sugar and your wearing a lard jacket.

>>26064562
Why would you need an AC in a temperate region?
Before 2010 summers would only exceptionaly surpass 32°C.
The south is warmer but it's also profiting from the Mistral (mediteranean cool wind).
Only fragile old people need AC.

wait europeans don't have AC?
i'm travelling to italy this summer, can i bring my own AC unit? didn't realize europe was that poor, is it safe there?

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>>26064685

Seething europoors with high kwh costs

>laughs in climate controlled bliss

>>26064562
We don't need this shit, you piece of degraded genetic spillover.

>>26064740
They're at higher latitudes than Burgerland but they die in the summer when heat waves go through. It's kinda depressing honestly.

Oslo is roughly on the same latitude as Anchorage.
Munich is roughly on the same latitude as Chicago.
Southern Italy is on the same latitude as Denver.
LA on the same latitude as the fucking Sahara.
And he wants to sell ACs to Europe while being oblivious to basic geographic and climatological facts.
American education at work.

>>26064873
Like inviting loving Muslims in? How's bongland doing? Sweden?

>>26064562
Americans are big faggots so they need their ass need to be cool down

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>>26064886
The visceral reaction of the euro-serf to the American lifestyle is always gold ty guys

>>26064941

> Like inviting loving Muslims in? How's bongland doing? Sweden?

Discussing immigration policy in a thread about the economics of HVACs and ACs - you really fantasize a lot about Muslim cock, don't you? Apparently, you hardly can go for a minute without bringing them up.

>>26065065
Oof big projection ask ur Eurofag about bigger aspirations.

Hueheuhe

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>>26064608
Lol pussies that spent the bulk of the 20th century either kicking your asses or saving your asses

>>26064941

> Like inviting loving Muslims in? How's bongland doing? Sweden?

Discussing immigration policy in a thread about the economics of HVACs and ACs - you really fantasize a lot about Muslim cock, don't you? Apparently, you hardly can go for a minute without bringing them up.

>>26065184
But that will be spun on us for the CO2!

Terrible stuff plants need to breath and stuff.. nasty plants

>>26064886
Yes but what this means is that Eurpeans likely do not have a fully functioning central air conditioning system so that means heating isn't likely either. Once you get the taste of perpetual optimal and comfortable temperature 24/7, you can't go back to opening windows to cool down or staying near the fireplace. With my crypto gains I could become the HVAC mafia.

So basically, the American lifestyle is that of an enhanced private life and a disastrous public sphere. Cities are literally constructed or deconstructed in a way that harms the public sphere in beauty and daily life from city design and architectural aesthetics. In contrast the private space of an American is unparalleled anywhere else in the world from large ostentatious homes, abundant food, fancy appliances, air conditioning and a personal automobile for every household member.

>>26064562
our houses are build from bricks and not cardboard

When i visited family in Ukraine sometimes they shut down hot water for like 2 weeks to entire city blocks. The reason for this is because the soviets built central heating stations that pumps hot water through the city rather than having boiler rooms. Seems fucktarded to me

>>26064562
Europeans are allergic to wood and MUST live in brick apartments with zero modern utilities.

>>26065062
Typical lard response
>they are disgusted by me, that must mean they are jealous

>>26064659
>we don't need to struggle to get basic cold medicine in these parts
I dont quite understand what youre saying. You think cold medicine is hard to get in America? I can walk over to the pajeet store on my corner and buy tylenol for $1

>>26064886
This means nothing. LA climate is nothing like the Sahara. UK is much warmer than NY despite being at a way higher latitude

>>26064562
European houses and buildings aren't made of shitty plywoods like in America and actually have isolation so the temperature remains stable inside for days before being affected by the climate.

I lived in Southern France and Greece, air conditioning was maybe required 5-6 days a year max, otherwise you would just open the window at night during summer and the house would be nice and cool for the rest of the day.

>>26064562
Nordcucks pay so much taxes they can't afford an AC
>t. Balkanchad

>>26064562
temperatures are unbarable for max 2 weeks a year here in belgium, for the rest no need

>>26064562
as many anons have said already in north western europe you get maybe 5 to 10 actual days of heat wave a year
with houses being build out of solid bricks and thick isolation it takes a few days to warm up inside and putting HVAC installation in such houses isn't cheap or easy
so for the most part it is just not worth the hassle to install them

>>26065184
this however is the temperature inside care facilities mostly for the elder
they are build dirt cheap because for profit and the people that die of heat already had both feet in the grave anyways

>>26065279
This

>>26064562
The west can afford the AC unit but don't want it due to high upkeep.
The east can't afford the AC but could afford the upkeep.

>>26064685
Actually a high metabolism that keeps you warm is a good thing. Generally, overweight people have low metabolisms (hence the putting on weight) and are quite cold. Also you literally never need an AC in Europe. If you haven't left Europe you've never experienced hot weather.
t. Australian with air-conditioning powered by solar for those weeks that average 40 celcius

>>26064608
Bruh it's like 90F with 100% humidity for 9 months of the year here. Bitches are literally tan and in short ass shorts all the time

>>26064562
In case no one has said it yet, the reason euros don't have AC is because energy is insanely fucking expensive. They don't heat their homes in winter either because they can't afford it.

Why has no one developed shart-resistant clothing for the American market yet?

>>26064562
Lot of US is more South than Europe.

>>26064562
I live in the northeast US, where it gets really hot and humid in the summer, and air conditioning is seen a luxury here as well. Houses without any kind of HVAC system go for $500k.

>>26066363
lmao ausfailian typing out a storm in a bid to defend his convict nation

>>26066855
I'm defending the great nation of America, inventors of air conditioning and freedom. Europeans wouldn't understand, having never been brave enough to risk leaving.

>>26064562
Because it wasn’t necessary in Northern, Western and Central Europe until 5-10 years ago. Unbearable heat waves in the summer are a relatively new thing for most parts of Europe. That’s why you genius.

Britfag here. OP might actually be onto something. Houses here just have boilers for the central heating systems for the winter, no ACs. But the past 2-3 summers have been fucking unbearable, at least by our standards. Maybe he's right and the market for this is going to start to manifest over the next 5-10 years or something. You'd be up against quite the cultural barrier though. The UK is very 'green' focused at the moment and the general consensus is that AC's are terrible for the environment. I think this is unironically a lot of the reason they are so expensive and why no one has them, plus there's an inescapable irony to adding to global pollution through AC's to get away from the heat the global pollution is causing.

But OP - If you're into HVAC and you're any good at BMS there's a massive market over here for intelligent buildings and using BMS for energy efficiencies for offices and etc, a market which is barely tapped into and scarcely understood. There's only really a handful of companies in the UK that are actually worth their salt and businesses don't know shit about it. To them it's all wizardry and I've seen some very very lucrative contracts to install BMS in buildings for big clients. Most of the BMS kit in corporate buildings that already exists is legacy as fuck too, and a lot of that just plain doesn't work where companies are retarded and bring in contractors to do other shit who then rip through the wiring and kill of the LANS lol. Part of me wishes I had stayed in the BMS field longer because there's a lot of money to be made an independent or even a small team, especially if you offer businesses cost-saving type contracts where they pay an initial fee and then a % each year of what the BMS saves them in energy costs

No one in San Francisco has AC

>>26065279
i'm a yuropoor who lived in america for a couple months several times, and while i won't cope like the other faggots attacking you, i haven't really found adjusting back all that hard
you also seem to be under the misconception there's no heating. we have heating, we just don't have cooling

>>26064562
You'd go out of business after 6 months because no-one wants it. You need actual demand as well as lack of current supply.

Might become necessary for southern Europe, but probably not for northern. Personally I haven't had AC in New England for 4 years.

>>26065253
>bragging about being a slave to Jews

>>26065253
Why do Americans love giving their foreskins to Jews?

>>26064698
No, no and no. much of europe is second world tier at best.

>>26064562
Because we aren't as obese as America yet, and don't break out into sweats going up a flight of stairs.

>>26064886
latitude means nothing. The gulf of Mexico gulfstream warms all of Europe and cools the East Coast US.

>>26067731
So Jews can put the foreskins in beauty products and sell it back to them for $100 per 10g tub.

>>26067848
When it stays at 38 degrees centigrade or more for months at a time, it's not really a luxury at that point. You europoors are making yourselves look more retarded than usual, which is saying something.

>>26065367
>Europeans are allergic to wood
ITs because they dont have any. They cleared all their forests centuries ago. America has beautiful forests for centuries to come still.

Another reason why the number of residential units with AC is low is because in historic buildings in cities you are by law not allowed to shit up the aesthetics with the AC box and the only way to get AC is to build one central system hidden under the roof, that costs a lot and every unit in the building has to agree to it and pay for it and thanks to braindead "people" that usually doesn't happen. People around here are actually happy to go to work, because the office has AC kek.

>>26067932
Relax my burger friend. It's all a bit of banter between fellow anglos.

>>26064562
there's a very simple explanation for this, EU houses aren't made of cardboard

>>26068283
Brits aren't European ?

>>26066638
>bitches are literally tan
The eternal amerimutt strikes again.

>>26064562

europeans are dogs

>>26065666
wat? Not a hope. NY is like a fucking swamp in summer.

>>26065184
holy fuck 900 deaths? from something this preventable? why arent we locking down under martial law with publicly financed air conditioning? we have to flatten the curve! one death is too many!

Europeans dont get HVACs because they dont live in substandard housing

>>26068749
I see someone has taken the lockdownpill.

>>26066363
You have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to cold, do you?
It's the super skinny ones that suffer the most in -30, people with a bit more body fat are much more comfortable in extreme cold.

>>26064562
>new normal
>new normal
>new normal
sometimes i wonder about neurolinguistic programming

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>>26064562
Euroshits don't have A/C because they are literally too poor to afford both the actual units and the electricity.

>>26068772
>Europeans dont get HVACs because they dont live in substandard housing
Imagine believing the mildly insulating property of bricks is the equivalent to HVAC.

>>26069463
Also imagine that the majority of Europoors don't live in shitty commiebloc housing. I've been to London and seen that shit lmao it's grim.

>>26068363
They are. But what is Europe except a continent shared with Asia. There aren't alot things in common between Serbia and Norway. Or Scotland and Greece. The union is a mistake and should be nothing more except trade agreements.

I live in Germonay and realistically you only need AC maybe for 2 or 3 weeks in summer when it gets above 30° C for multiple days, when I was in uni and had nothing to do I'd hang out at the library/department store and pretend to be busy bc they were the only places with AC

>>26069161
-30? We're talking about warm weather. But still it's the chads with a roaring metabolism that will stay warmest. You can be hypothyroid and underweight too, it's just less common.

>>26065697
that's chipboard not plywood

every single summer I see euros complaining about the heat and it amazes me that they can't pay for the $300 it costs to get a window air conditioner, are euros really that poor? Even third world countries all have AC lmao.

>>26064562
While not HVAC/plumbing, I'm in a less skilled trade (cladding/downpipes/capflashing on commercial buildings), I did landscaping/hardscaping/masonry under this guy who was like the da Vinci of landscaping and won shitloads of awards, catalog covers, show home contracts, etc. So I would use those pictures to get jobs on the side on my own time (with his permission, I did a lot of the work on them, and he was super supportive of us starting our own companies). I could make more money in a weekend redoing someone's flower beds and making them a patio than I could in 2 weeks of doing the same backbreaking work for an hourly wage from any company.

Doing your own contract work is incredibly lucrative for anything. Whether it's soffit/fascia/downpipes, shingles, landscaping, HVAC/plumbing (if you're certified, idk if you can just be a handyman for that in north america), painting, etc. it's all work that's very high in demand. And, if you're just doing it on your own, your overhead will be way lower than any large company, so you can charge considerably less. Most large companies want guys like this to stay in business, because they don't want the small shitjobs, they want the big contracts, so most (including mine) will have a list of smaller guys they just throw the smaller jobs they don't want to do at. It keeps customers happy, and helps everyone stay profitable. Also, the big guys are smart enough to realize they kind of need competition to succeed longterm and have a large enough pool of trained/skilled employees in their given areas.

In regards to this thread, it's always baffled me that euros don't really get air conditioning units installed. Is it because their houses are 300 years old and aren't fitted with modern enough ventilation?

AC is a seen as a luxury in a lot of CA funny enough. Most of the homes worth living in here were built in a time before it was automatically included

most of yurop is kinda comparable in weather to new england except not as cold in the winter. when I lived in vermont it wasn’t worth having ac except for maybe one month out of the year. but when I lived in south carolina the ac would be blowing like 6+ months of the year. sicily gets pretty hot in the summer and instead of getting ac the people there just sleep during the day
t. have lived all over the us and have traveled all over yurop

>>26064679
the japs already solved that with split AC systems

>>26070168
if CA = california you are fucking retarded
if CA = canada then who cares, 90% of your population lives <100mi from the chinese border