/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>28099500
I sold all my xmr for 0xmr.

>>28099500
Bumping for discussion I'm on the fence to buy into monero.

>>28099500
/biz/ has been FUDing Monero a lot lately, you already know what will happen soon.

>>28099500
>booming dark net adoption
>wallet apps like cake doubling in installs each month
>government openly asking for anyone to be able to crack it
>blatant market manipulation to suppress price
>the cypherpunk vibe that early bitcoin had
>thinking monero is dead
Nigger, XMR is in a great position. It’s undervalued but because you only buy high and sell low, you haven’t accumulated any yet.

>>28099789
Monero is technically superior than most cryptocurrency. It's just 10 years late.

Everything in this world has its time and place. Monero got caught in a bad timing.

Monerofags don't speculate with the coin, they trade it for goods.

>>28099899
There's another FUD thread up right now: >>28099016

>>28100020
>>booming dark net adoption
Any stats and proof of this?
Also is darknet commerce itself still growing?

>>28100020
I hope you are right, im so close to dumping this shitcoin
Half my portfolio is XMR and I’m missing out on the bullrun holding this piece of shit

>privacy is slowing dying

Monero isnt for making money, its a utility coin for buying drugs man

>>28100346
I know it’s anecdotal, but as a minecraft player it’s fast becoming the ONLY way to buy drugs online.
Every market has adopted it and the largest market at the moment White House Market is Monero only. Bitcoin is getting completely phased out.

Monero is literally a USD stable coin at the moment. Either this means that it is primarily being used as a means of exchange (dollar in -> xmr -> dollar out) or there is some degree of coordinated selling/whale activity. Who knows at this point.

Total shitcoins with no following are mooning while xmr remains 1:1 USD/shit in satoshis. Either this is an amazing opportunity or the beginning of the end.

>>28100346
The largest dark net marketplace, White House market, only accepts Monero.
R/darknet has threads about Monero every day and they are not crypto investors.
Dread has embraced Monero as the dark net coin and in the new dark net bible they shill it hard.
>>28100361
Then dump it moonboy faggot. This is a glorious accumulation period but you are blinded by greed. If you are over leveraged you should diversify. Monero is experiencing legitimate adoption. This is far more important than a pump and dump.

>>28100736
Monero has a clear use case, so even if it dumps to 1 USD I will keep buying more.

>>28100423
Isn't it though?

I'm not talking about unsocialized basement dwellers like yourself. You make up for 0.0000009% of the world population, which clearly isn't enough to fuel a global scale adoption.

The closest thing to privacy you see is people turning on incognito mode when they masturbate. Prove me wrong.

>>28099500
Post proof of foreskin.

also,
>ledditspacing

stop talking about shit on clearnet ree.

it's not going to make her pump any sooner

>>28100742
>This is a glorious accumulation period
I’ve been accumulating for 2 years, had i been doing the same with nearly anything else i would have enough to buy a house. I won’t sell because I’m stubborn, but i will FUD the shit out of this shitcoin at any opportunity.

>>28100346
it's not hard to go have a look yourself
Xmr has been preferred for years it's just not ideal for normies buying gear online to have to use xmr over BTC
xmr is a god tier hold imo and always has been

>>28100915
You are still underestimating the illegal billion dollars market.
Money laundering, CP, drugs, weapons, etc.

Also normies adopted BTC believing that it is untraceable and private, but that's exactly what Monero does, they still don't know about it. Normies live few years behind.

Actually has a use case and does it well. I get all my Minecraft supplies with it. Nobody cares if some faggot on here says it’s dead.

Has a hidden inflation bug, its why price doesnt rise

>>28101163
I highly doubt you have been dcaing for the past two years and still calling monero a “shit coin”. You lack the understanding of fundamentals. Moneros growth has been great over the past year. How can you be so retarded to not understand this?
No, you are a degenerate moon boy. If you have been stacking over the past two years you would have already tripled your value. In all likelihood you are talking out of your ass and looking to demoralize the only great project in crypto because you are too retarded to see the blatant market manipulation hammering down the ratio.

I’ll invest in anything that weaponizes a peace loving language created by a ((guy)) into an anonymous Thai micro crab gambling currency

privacy is only dying until it is not.
there will be a major event where normies realize that they need privacy

>>28099500
Its mostly used by criminals
It'll be fine

Just wait until regulations come pouring in after this bull cycle... youll be running for monero

I have 5% of portfolio in XMR and I just feel like I keep losing out.. Am I being an emotional faggot or shall I get rid of my XMR? I don't see it going up any soon, yet I do see many coins and tokens that just mooned or have way more potential or hype right now.
Where the fuck is the bottom? I might as well long if you guys are so convinced it will go back up.

>>28101523
It has built-in inflation but I wouldn't call a guaranteed miner incentive a bug.

>>28099500
xmr value will steadily increase as the rest of the crypto market gets mainstreamed by corporations and governments. i wouldn't bet against it long term.

>>28102822
he's not talking about that. common monero fud is that there's an exploit that allows infinite monero creation and it can't be discovered because amounts are hidden, but there's zero basis for those claims and it's just as likely for such a bug to occur in any other crypto.

>>28099500
>Privacy was a thing of the 2010s when ThePirateBay and torrenting was a thing normies did.
The Fappening blackpilled the whole world on privacy. Thanks anonib

I sold a about a month ago after holding for a long time. Just move on, and don't get attached. You are missing massive gains acting like these fools
>>28100866

>>28103575
So what to swap to then? Everything has mooned and I feel like I'd just buy into a dump.

>>28099500
you jews will get what you deserve. god hates you.

Right now its much faster and easier to just hold another coin and swap it for monero when you need it. Getting monero in cash is a pain in the ass. I doubt a lot of vendors are selling it for cash either and are just changing it for btc the first chance they get. No hodl = no gains.

I sold 0.1 BTC just to buy more XMR today.

/biz/ fundamentals convinced me

Monero is the only coin I have actually seen fucking used in a normal trading environment (the black market).

It's a reliable crypto hold imo, but not to make you rich

>>28099500
there are people like me on this planet, who value privacy. even if there are only 20 million people who are like me and everyone owns only one monero, there are no moneros available anymore

>>28101418
There goes the "billionz of dollars" argument again. Yet, anyone with serious money wouldn't choose Monero over banks and firms who've done this for tens if not hundreds of years in places like cayman islands and Panama.

They don't depend on Monero. Never have and probably never will.

Same with people buying drugs or weapons. The vast majority of people using drugs or buying weapons don't use darknet markets. In fact, go try buy weapons on darknet – there's a high probability that you're getting scammed or even worse, getting raided by feds.

Again, these people do not depend on darknet or Monero. You're overestimating the importance of Monero.


>>28101452
I'm sure buying Minecraft equipment is the goal of the Monero community and whoever invested in it.

>>28103575
This is true. Lots of people on this board bought in for a single reason – to make money. Getting emotionally attached to your investment is one of the worst things you could do. This applies to more than cryptocurrencies.

>>28104118
This is probably why xmr.to shut down. Better to have drug dealers going OTC if they're dumping rather than pummeling the BTC ratio on exchanges.

>>28101163
thats your own problem, weak handed faggot

>>28100020
u are retard. xmr was created by alphabet agency and they shilled it on darknet arrests to honeypot criminals, just like TOR is a honeypot. u think this shit gets developed by prestige universities and what im saying isnt true? ur bags must be heavy.

>>28100456
It's a useful coin for buying drugs AND for making money.

>>28104902
>There goes the "billionz of dollars" argument again. Yet, anyone with serious money wouldn't choose Monero over banks and firms who've done this for tens if not hundreds of years in places like cayman islands and Panama.
This applies to literally any application of crypto tokens. They try to replace businesses (finance, trusts) where humans excelled for centuries

>>28105240
>u think this shit gets developed by prestige universities and what im saying isnt true?
Yes, u are bluepilled on monero: it’s truly developed by the mafias

>>28105240
Take your meds

>>28105240
NSA developed sha256 which is the hashing algo for btc, who cares?

if you want a get rich quick scheme go for another crypto.
there's a real usecase for monero, but to achieve that it can't be deflationary. it's not a coin you want to see moon because that would hurt its application.

privacy has always been a meme its impossible

>>28105469
listen to sarang noether audio series about breaking monero or something and cry about it nigger.

XMR has the shittiest most toxic community in all of crypto. There's a reason why this bullshit hasn't pumped (or ever will aside from a pump and dump every so often).

>>28099500
The only thing about XMR that's dead "even then, not really" is price action
Literally every single metric for measuring community growth shows that XMR is seeing massively increasing levels of community interest

>>28105240
That is literally, unironically, exactly what they want you to think.
Also, OP is a defeatist faggot, if you think privacy is dead then it is dead for you, plenty of people living the opposite. If you believed in privacy you'd be participating in things that strengthen privacy, otherwise you're helping kill it, so why do we care what you have to say? Might aswell be a federal agent.

>>28104902
>>28103575

I still don't care about the price and will keep buying, I like having privacy.

>>28100915
bro, take a look around you. privacy is gonna become of the hottest commodities in the brave new world.

>>28100915
Normies are getting more into Virtual CC's, see Privacy.com (literally called privacy), aswell as VPN's. More celebs and normies are shilling crypto. Takes a few seconds for those smart enough to put the pieces together, find out about XMR, am I saying this is going towards global scale adoption? No, many factors fuel people wanting privacy, just look at what happened when conservatards got fucked off of mainstream social platforms and all the sudden they are "alt-tech" fanatics. Things will become increasingly dystopian, as you said yourself in OP. IoT, smartphones, ad infinitum

>>28105660
Yeah, this is actually another one of the many improvements Monero made over bitcoin that is unnoticed.

>>28106163
>if you say it's dead, then it's dead to you – and if you tell us it's dead, you're hurting the idea of privacy, so stop listening to this guy.

Look, privacy might not be entirely dead yet but it's definitely taking its last breaths. Privacy isn't getting stronger. Governments are taking more and more control over their citizens. Hell, my local IKEA hasn't accepted cash for more than a year now and many other businesses and stores are following suit.

You can cover your eyes and tell others 'why are we listening to this guy'. Or you could face the fact.

If you don't believe in what I say then prove me wrong.

Don't worry about the future of privacy, it is going to be just fine. You know who are the first to want privacy? The very richs.

>>28107266
Debunked by a 30 second Google search.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crypto-currency-germany-password/police-seize-60-million-of-bitcoin-now-wheres-the-password-idINKBN2A511T

I am really starting to believe that NSA is running a massive FUD campaign against Monero.

>>28107266
I believe in what you say to a degree, yeah government overreach is going and will keep going wild, what I don't believe in is your faggot defeatist stance, the only way to keep privacy alive is to continue strengthening it, like, what's your point here? Just because XMR's price isn't going moonboi level doesn't mean that XMR as a technology is dead, so why are you saying this? XMR WORKS, I don't care how much the government goes mental on privacy, I will continue to use privacy tools, I'm not going to be a faggot and lie down, you can do that if you want.
To me, you come off as someone who likes the boot on their face, if not a full on bootlicker. The government could outlaw privacy tools and I'll be in a back ally using them.

>>28105790
>toxic community
No, the other communities are toxic liars. If you just explain to people "xmr is peer to peer digital cash" they just think "ok... just like every other coin". For uninformed people to understand how special Monero is they first have to understand that every other coin is not at all useable as digital cash and furthermore 99% of their other claims are also false.

>>28104902
You’re right, the goal of the Monero community is to make transacting privately possible. You fucking moron.

>>28099500
the pedocoins are going down. next one to fall is Polkadot. https://www.baltictimes.com/news/articles/22170/

>>28107266
what it comes down to is we have opposite viewpoints:
we both think government is against privacy, corporations along with them don't give a fuck about your privacy
but the way I look at it, we have solutions to these things, tools to utilize
and in your brain
we shouldn't use those tools because you think that not alot of people are using those tools?

>>28107354
Maybe, but they're not going to use Monero to stash "dem billionz of dollars".

>>28107540
What exactly are you debunking here?

>>28107775
I would enjoy privacy just as much as you would. The thread is mainly for the discussion of Moneros relevancy in privacy. Not to shit on Monero.

I even mentioned in a former post that Monero is technically superior to most other cryptocurrencies so I suggest you read my comments before posting. It's not a defeatist stance to point out the flaws in the psychology of the privacy "community". Call it being a realist, and thank me for offering the opportunity to debate it.

As soon as atomic swaps are a thing I'm swapping most of my bitcoin stack to monero. I just don't want people tracking me or preventing me from spending MY money. I don't even do anything illegal I'm just a curmudgeon.

>>28099565
all 5000 rupees worth rajesh?

>>28100346

I buy.. "stuff" off of the biggest darknet market and they recently switched to XMR only

as long as the dealers trade in XMR it has value and utility so not going away

>>28108389
I did read them, you also called another anon a basement dweller for saying privacy isn't dead. So, what the fuck are you even trying to say? You come off like you dislike privacy a whole lot.
>privacy "community"

>>28109023
>you also called another anon a basement dweller for saying privacy isn't dead. So, what the fuck are you even trying to say?

Re-read the comment. You clearly didn't understand what I said in it.

I love privacy, but the harsh reality is that it's dying within the minds of 7.8 billion people. You and your basement dweller friends won't be able to sustain the idea of privacy within the brain of these 7.8 billion people.

Did I formulate it easy enough for you now?

>>28108685
Which market is biggest now? I've been off for a while but now I want to buy some DMT

>>28099500
Literally the best hedge against NWO

>>28100423
OP POST GLOWS

>>28109773

White House

>>28105790
who gives a fuck about "community" this isn't a corporation or a football team. But a lot of xmr users/holders have been in this space for about a decade so I can see how some people might bit seem toxic if you're a noob.

>>28099500
>be normie
>buy bitcoin
>this bitcoin has been used for used for illegal activities and will be locked

>>28109713
Yeah and it's still fucking stupid. It's like you're literally a fed kek
>>28109861
and you never acknowledged what I said here
>>28107133

XMR is dead because all places that you can buy crypto from requires KYC

Bitcoin had 2 inflation bugs, ravencoin had inflation bug, i could keep going on.

This is why monero doesnt rise, inflation bug is being exoited but due to private blockchain you cant see it happening

>>28099500
Literally one of the best cryptos available. Of course the retards on /biz/ think it's shit. You lot would rather lose 40% in the space of 2 hours on a shitcoin created in a Mubai slum.

https://cryptoslate.com/cryptos/privacy/

all platforms and chains try to put some security

>>28099565
How's the weather in Mubai this time of year?

newfag here. Would it be a bad idea to hold xmr? I just want to buy and never touch it for a long time

>>28110207
Simply not true. A quick 30 second google search would give you a number of sites that don't require kyc e.g. BISQ & localmonero

>>28110372
No. Long-term it's one of the best crypto investments you can make. Unlike the shitcoin P&D projects shilled on biz, Monero is actually backed up by amazing fundamentals and a rapidly increasing group of users.

>>28110280
mean privacy

>>28105790
>muh community
Go return to reddit you dumb tranny.

This is a cryptocurrency not a book club

>>28110111
Virtual CC's are still CC's, connected to the same infrastructure as VISA/MC, this really isn't privacy. You think the big boys of Visa and MasterCard would accept a truly private CC?

How cute.

*bans Monero on all centralized exchanges*

You faggots don't understand.
Monero is the future along with XHV
Look at this fucking chart:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/haven
It is already over $5+, It was $1 when I started to follow the project and few months ago.
Druglords don't give a shit about crypto, they just want to be on the shadows, the same with tax evasors, etc.
XHV creates a stablecoin based on Monero:
>monero-forked coin with all privacy features
>bulletproofs are also on it: super-low fees, not like erc-20 shitstablecoins
>algorithmically-pegged, like DAI or Synthetix
The only reason people are not cashing out to xUSD is because it's an early project.
All the future dark-market transactions will use xUSD instead of XMR (BTC is already dead for the market) because they will have a stablecoin with all the benefits of XMR.
Sidenote:
BTC/XMR atomic swap are coming, so you won't have to rely on exchanges to trade for XMR

>>28110241
You can see there's no inflation bug, supply can be verified by looking at all the mining rewards for each block or just running a command

>>28111134
You're retarded as fuck again, I'm saying they are INTERESTED in privacy I didn't say it was actually that useful, which was your point, that normal people don't care about privacy, they are atleast interested, they just aren't aware of the right tools yet.

>>28099500
dont care

>>28111876
Any info on the team, how development is payed for etc? Stablecoins always sound like dogshit to me, but with the added privacy I'm at least curious.

>>28111279
*buys it on decentralised exchanges*

>>28111134
Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

>>28111134
>You think the big boys of Visa and MasterCard would accept a truly private CC? How cute.

>>28108410
I'm bullish on atomic swaps
since crypto-to-crypto is taxable; they can track how much you have gained by following your wallets and CEX/DEX operations

You can do the following to hide your transactions:
1. buy ETH
2. swap for XMR
3. swap for ETH aging to another wallet
4. do your trades in DEXes
5. cash out swapping to XMR and the ETH aging to your old address.
They can't tell if you just hold XMR or traded shitcoins.
But the funny part is that you will be able to swap for xUSD in the future instead of XMR. This will make imposible to tell if you had gains. They can only thell that you hold xUSD but since it's a stablecoin you had no gains.

how the fuck is this STILL nowhere near ATH yet?
how the fuck is this STILL not a top 10 coin?
how the fuck am I STILL allowed to accumulate at these prices?

>>28113106
Retards making up the majority of investors in the crypto market.

>>28112222
>There's a tool, but it isn't useful

Then what's the point brainlet? You want people to buy into pseudo privacy? Please don't @ me again. You're too brainlet for me to handle.

>>28113106
Minimum 120IQ required to hold XMR

>>28112222
Just to add to my latest comment. If you think its a good idea for people to gain interest in pseudo privacy and thereby warp the idea of true privacy then you are just as stupid.

>>28111134
they already do but only for wealthy clients through buisness cards for front companies that sit in some taxshelter. visa and mc dont care about kyc as long as they can make money.

>>28112289
I understand the initial team dissolved and abandoned the project for a while. Then it was taken aging by one of the original devs and with a new team. I know the new team has audited the code with an external audit team.
However, I'm not able to tell for sure if they're safe and legit. I want to wait a bit more until the coin is included on more exchanges and more trusted. They I'll probably move most of my stablecoin savings there.
I have FOMO on xhv; but well, part of that is taking the risk of trusting the team.
But the fact that this project is not massively being shilled by pajeets scammers in /biz/ and it STILL managed to break ath gives me hope.

This is an obvious bait thread, but the point of buying XMR is to bank AGAINST normies adopting Crypto.

There are two types of people

1. People who believe cryptocurrency will be widely adopted by society. These people tend to hold things like XRP, XLM, BTC, ETH, etc etc.

2. People who believe Crypto will eventually be phased out of existence by intense regulation for uprooting established economics.

With Atomic-Swaps and widespread adoption by criminals and people who are generally anti-government, Monero will boom regardless of what the rest of the crypto space does. Privacy coins are one of the few practical applications of blockchain tech. People will want to use Monero regardless of what the market is doing.

>>28113275
>They simple don't give a fuck and why would they? "Got nothing to hide, got nothing to fear" is the rhetoric.
Now you're whining about the effectiveness of a tool, when to begin with you were saying that normies don't care about privacy, I proved you wrong like you asked. Now you're assmad
>>28113694
So get them interested in Monero instead of saying privacy is dead when we have newfags crawling the board. You're working against yourself if you truly believe in privacy.
It's also quite effective against data breaches, not government tracking. So it does have some use.

>>28113870
>But the fact that this project is not massively being shilled by pajeets scammers in /biz/ and it STILL managed to break ath gives me hope.
shilling is instant red flag and sell signal. Thanks for the answer btw

>>28110259
Also this. The vast majority of /biz/ are degenerate shitcoin gamblers that have no interest in holding anything longterm nor want to put any effort into thinking about what will be useful to crypto as a whole in the future.

That's why Chainlink was fudded so hard for years.

>>28110207
that's the whole point.
Once you take your Monero off the exchange it goes POOOOF

With bitcoin they can trace each step you take after it's off the exchange.

>>28111876
USD is being inflated to the ground

>>28114342
i am so happy i didn't believe the link fud back then

>>28105240
anon be careful you are glowing

Elon will shill XMR sooner or later. Hold your bags anons.

>>28115397
bags are heavy, thinking of selling and putting to ETH or BTC but then immediately after the bogs will give the call and it pumps

>>28100020
based

>>28110207
Monero is private retard.
So many noobs don't know how cryptos work, XMR will skyrocket in 5 years.

>>28114342
And why people here still think XRP is going to reach $100.

>>28100020
all that and this piece of shit is still going sideways while everything else is up 30% every fucking day

>>28100020
based bro, tell me what % of my portfolio should go to monero?

we all know what happens when there is an increase of FUD for a coin here
XMR is the best long term play

>>28099500
wait for the elon "#monero" post

>>28116984
I think 20% is a good amount.

>>28116881
if you want to ride pnd scamcoins to the moon that's your prerogative
they WILL go down, while techonologies with actual use will succeed long term

I'm just waiting for the trumptards to be sent even further underground to the point that people like Rand Paul are shilling monero. Its sad how low the price in sats has fallen during this bull run but the regardless, monero isn't going away. Thus the price (longterm) will only go up. Buying monero right now is like buying bitcoin after the last crash. You know its a good investment and you know you're guaranteed 10x if you just hodl. SO BUY XMR TODAY! ACtually just convinced myself to get more.

>>28116881
You're still on shift Pajeet. Your slumlords aren't paying you to talk about legit cryptos. Get back to telling people to put their life savings into Bao Finance or whatever shitcoin you've created this week from your Mumbai soapbox.

>>28117116
thanks for your financial advice, I am unironically going to do it right away

>>28117293
>>28117480
it took me only 5 minutes in this thread and quick glance over charts to love monero

it shouldn't be your main hold
fluffy and others admitted transactions can still be traced.
it's a call option on privacy

>>28117480
Based.

>>28117577
my dumbass theory is, that any coin in top 50 that had its ATH in dec17/jan18 can top that price for sure sooner or later

>>28103276
you're right it's just as likely to occur in another coin, which is often.

Bitcoin, by far the biggest shitcoin with the most eyes on it, had 3 major inflation bugs in its history. The difference is with Bitcoin it was discovered and the community forked the chain. Monero inflation bugs literally cannot be discovered by design.

>>28117577
Watch this for more info - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9Uu5BUxII&ab_channel=MoneroCommunityWorkgroup

>>28107138
Why exactly isn't secp256k1 "safe"?

>>28117837
>what is inspecting the codebase, exactly how bitcorn bugs were found
What monero really needs to hedge against this is a few more implementations and even a Rust implementation for compile time safety.

>>28110090
I know how that trick works and it's pretty fucking stupid

Ghost is literally the best privacy coin. If only because it's a particl fork plus dandelion++. Laugh all you want

Someone say XMR fud thread?

>>28105800
Someone post the log scale transactions chart

>>28118564
based XMR chad to the rescue

>>28099789
wait until after the alts market so i have more time to buy low pls

>>28103276
I'm well aware, it was an exchange bug that could have fucked them but CLIs/GUIs any other wallet was fine. His fud is delicious.

>>28115397
No he won't. XMR is too difficult for normies. Elon only cares about easy, memeable shit that he can use to pump his wealth.

>>28118674
I’m convinced anyone fudding XMR just wants to buy cheaper before it’s a top 3 crypto.

>>28109839
BASED
>>28112888
dangerously based

>>28116984
It’s up to you anon. I’d dyor and weigh the pros and cons.
Monero might not pump as much in the short term, but long term we can reach the current Bitcoin levels. And yes, I’m not exaggerating.

>>28119462
I already did the 20%, it feels pretty safe, considered even more

>>28119462
Give it 5 years and 1 XMR will be +$10,000

>>28119954
do you think so? ive been hording some xmr mostly because im a tinfoil hat privacy schizo

>>28119818
Nice. Come hang out in the xmr gens.
Monero is an addicting community. Learning about the technology is fun and hosting a node or mining is >>28119818
comfy.

>>28120242
can confirm
hosting a node is comfy as tits

i'm about to transfer my xmr into my gui wallet, kinda a dumb question, but how do you guys secure your recovery seed phrase? i feel like a need a safe bolted to the floor or something to hold it.

>>28120242
I actually thought about mining at work few days ago, because I have access to solid virtual pool where I can deploy pretty much anything I want, but I am not really sure about the hash rate there, need to check it

>>28120717
yea and GPU power is pretty much non existent there, that's why I was looking for CPU friendly coins

>>28120110
Yes I don't see why not. Just looking at fundamentals, there is no doubt it is better than BTC.

>>28120717
You should definitely look into mining then. It’s pretty easy to get set up and earning passive income would be based. I know of one anon who posts in the generals who is doing the same thing at their job.

>>28120471
Hide the paper you write it down in a secure area. And also keep a brain wallet as backup.

>>28120471
In an encrypted text file with a dummy name like "phonenumbers.txt", somewhere online. Use a password you are going to remember for the encryption. You can also first scramble the seed a bit, in reverse order or such.

>>28120471
Write on paper, wrap in plastic, shove up ass. Remember to fetch it after each shit and repeat the insertion.

>>28120471
>write down seed on vellum
>laminate vellum
>1 foot of 1in PVC piping, 2 caps, Teflon tape, plumbers glue
>roll up laminated seed and put it in the tube (I also put a few oz of silver in with mine)
>bury ~2 feet down

Now you can completely hide it, you’ll remember the area it’s in because your brain has evolved for dozens of millennia to remember where the berry bush that WONT kill your kids is.

If you still can’t find it? That silver will be picked up easily by a metal detector.

>>28118081
https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/
the website explaining all of it is literally at the top of the image

>>28121836
its called diceware. not some meme password

no timeline is correct without Monero being in the top 10

>>28100866
You can use that use case by paying spot price and quickly using it. It's OK not to pay the opportunity cost that comes with holding it. All of crypto would be better without people hoarding coins and tokens and never getting around to using them for what they're for.

>>28099789
OP is a fag, privacy is not for the normies, is for the sanctioned governments of North Korea and Cuba, for the Drug Cartels of Mexico and Colombia, and for the Pedos on TOR, all of them will pump this shitcoin to 100k

OP is retarded. Privacy is a commodity that soon only wealthy people will be able to afford.

>>28105469
>monero
>esperanto word
>made by jewish mafia
Gee, what gave you that idea?

>>28124704
hence why get XMR brother