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eth will die before 2.0 is released. all hail cz

Pangolin is the Reddit of Avalanche.
Zero Exchange is the chans.
You know what to do, lads.

AVAX will never take off simply because its too difficult to use. I have been in crypto space for over 6 years and I still couldn't figure out how to claim the fucking airdrop.

>>28300701
>difficult to use
Staking has never been easier lol

>>28300701
Everything gets easier to use over time, it’s part of the software hype cycle

>>28300342
im actually starting to believe this could be the real eth killer

>>28300958
It will help ETH in the short run, but if ETH fails to deliver what it's currently promising this will dethrone it.

>>28300586
Zero users
Zero liquidity
Zero future

Not even live for a day yet.

mandatory bitching about voyager, i just want to stake my 1.3k at the drop and stop looking at it.
also how long do you have to stake to hit the x8 limit?

>>28301852
What do you mean by x8 limit?

>>28301835
fuck, that's a lot of volume for ~16 hours live

>>28301835
Jesus christ, it was at like 20m when I went to bed and I thought that was mind-blowing.

>>28301835
what the fuck LOL
is AVAX really the prophesied ETH killer?

>>28302311
might be dude. no joke

Can you guys like, sell? I need to buy moar

>>28302424
>sell

>>28302424
I'm sorry little one.. that I can't do

>>28302609
thats a fucken good pango, saved.

>>28302723
Hell yeah

Gave up on buying this shit til it hits coinbase or something. Signed up for like 5 different sites trying to buy and they all either take forever to verify or just don't work. Being amerifat sucks

FUCKING TRUMP WON'T LET ME BUY AVAX, I HOPE THEY CONVICT YOU, FAGGOT

>>28304021
Just fucking use a vpn on binance

>>28304116
But I already gave them all my info do I have to make a new account or what

>>28304300
Yes, that's exactly what you do. Make a new email and then create a new account on binance under the vpn. After that enable 2fa with the google authenticator app and then deposit whichever crypto you already have to buy avax.

>>28304437
Thanks king

Its already top 3, 30b fully diluted marketcap. Another ponzi scam that will go back to $5

>>28304116
>>28304437
I appreciate your advice, but I am a massive poorfag trying to get in on the ground floor and don't have enough gas money to cover all the transfers it would take to move my meager crypto that much. Fuck ETH.

>>28304663
>le fully diluted mc meme
tokens are released over ten years you fucking nigger

>>28304934
Kys reddit nigger loving cunt

>>28305037
AHGAHAAHAHAH NICE ARGUMENT NIGGER OH WAIT U GOT BTFO AHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAH BETTER LUCK NEXT TIME YOU THICK CUNT

>>28304934
Not even true, That's total supply (Won't be fully unlocked for 10 years), Fully diluted will never be diluted, AVAX burning mechanism meant to keep it more or less stable around 360M.

It's a pathetic fud

>>28304021

this is a buy signal, unironically. when this thing gets on a true burger friendly exchange, it will explode.

>>28305331
Cringe

>>28306320
you did get fucking told tho just saying

>>28300342
I hate their wallet forcing me to type out the mnemonics fucking time I wanna log back in.

how long does it take for binance to approve withdrawals for avax?

>>28307613
I've been waiting all day for an avax deposit to show up on Binance. Was going to dump on normies at $50 but CZ fucked me over

>>28307999
fucking chink.

>>28306564
just download the keystore file retard

stake or pool rn?

>>28300342
Did not sold since single digits $$$ all hail avalanche!!!

avalanche is the future, fuck the price, i mean the real value

>>28300586
Exactly this, Avalanche is an extremely undervalued asset right now

I hodl some avax. No idea about what you say. I just hodl it

>>28302311
No, it's BNB

I guess it’s time for me to become an AVAX shill. Went in deep this past week and damn it has paid off well.

>>28300853
This shit is so broken and buggy it was not ready for primetime at all

I spent fucking 12 hours claiming my PNG and I got so frustrated I tried to give it away and even that fucking fails

deleted my wallet and never coming back. fuck avax and fuck you

Avax wants to go parabolic. $60 incoming

>>28309882
sorry to hear that buddy but it's pretty fucking smooth for me
Just soild the rest of my coins and went all in. This is unironically a top3 coin.

Avax pump %1000 from dip HUGE

>>28309430
Yes mate Avax $100 soon!

do i use my avax for staking or for lp on pangolin?

brainlet here. i have avax on ledger. why can't i cross-chain x to c. i want to send to metamask on pangolin.

>>28311965
you can

>>28312131
how? the cross-chain destination drop-down is only giving me p option. according to docs i should see c chain option there

I'll probably buy a stack at 0.5c in a few months.

>>28304934
>>28305037
>>28305331
>>28306320
reported for racism

>>28311965
why do i not see avax on ledger live? i have the experimental feature activated

>>28313144
Cause ledger live sucks, they don't even display prices for a lot of coins. Avax isn't even listed on their site.

>>28313290
any other way to add it to ledger?

>>28313425
Only the official wallet so far

>>28312348
yep ledger can't deal with c chain (yet, it's actively being worked on)
gotta use the web wallet for that stuff

>>28300342

Although I really think that avax has a high potential to grow and claim its spot along side ethereum (or maybe even dethrone it), nobody seems to to realize that it is way less decentralized than ethereum. currently, there are currently 833 nodes in avalanche. in ETH2.0 there are over fucking 84.000 nodes.
im really bullish about both projects myself, but this is kind of an apples and bananas comparison. without a doubt they together have incredible synergy.

https://explorer.avax.network/
https://beaconcha.in/

>>28314122
One's been out for 6 years and the other has been out for 6 months

>>28314358

still ethereum is way more decentralized.

>>28304044
Biden

>>28314358
also, stake delegation (as it is easily possible in ava) actually does not incentivize to create nodes compared to eth2.0.

>>28314496
eth is controlled by 14 mining pools

>>28314774
eth2.0 won't be.

>>28305825

Unironically Gate.io exists and ive been telling burgers about it for days but theyre too retarded to listen.

>>28314667
They are decreasing the stack from 2,000 to 500 to run a validator. Keep in mind ETH 2.0 is scheduled to be released in December which is still 10 months away. A lot can happen in 10 months especially within this space.

>>28314940
Someday.

>>28314946
500 stacklet here, waiting for the drop to happen to run my own node.

>>28314946
I agree, especially in crypto everything goes. but also keep in mind that it takes time to build projects, uni swap was started in november 2018 and took off in december 2020.

https://uniswap.org/blog/uniswap-history/

many projects have been building on ethereum for years and i highly doubt that they will change the infrastructure just because of a few months. it is also questionable whether new projects hop immediatly on avalanche, especially when you can wrap tokens and move them there anyways.

>>28314946
I'm pushing hard to get a 500 stack (not being made fucking easy with it constantly pumping). But is it even worth it overall compared to the low delegation fees?

>>28314945
They aren't retarded, we have all used it. What you are dealing with is a steady flow of newfags

Upper echelons of society will be measured in how many avax nodes you run.

>>28300461
all hail cz

>>28315256
You're right. It does take time to fully build projects and uniswap would be the perfect example, but you can't compare building a project in 2018 to building a project now. The whole crypto atmosphere has changed. Uni did establish the building blocks and foundation for dexs, but the current fees cause of eth would deter a lot of users when mass adoption starts coming into play.

Pangolin was released yesterday and it's already quickly moving up being the 8th dex in terms of liquidity within just 19 hours or so..

>>28300701
hahahaahahahaahah
I got into crypto by fomoing into BTC at $42k and seeing all my life savings melt in the following weeks. If I can figure pangolin and avax in 2 minutes without ever using uni before, then you are a retard.

>>28307613
It's delayed, but if you refresh your wallet it should show up within an hour unless binance is having liquidity problems with avax

>>28314945
You can withdraw in US? I get a warning message trying to sign up, does that only apply to ERC20 tokens?

>>28316558
Are you using a VPN?

>>28316235

Um if you're a sharp knife in the drawer, can you tell me how to return my Avax from my Metamask?

>>28316872
If I need a Non-US VPN why wouldn’t I just use binance

>>28317728
Are you a burger trying to buy AVAX from binance?

I'm a burger and bought on there using a vpn

I have 200 AVAX and I just wanted to thank biz for changing my life. It cost me my entire life savings (im a poorfag) and that investment has gone from $2,000 to $10,000 in just a month. I'm gonna let it ride for a bit but seriously thank you to the people shilling this shit back in January I'll never get a chance to thank you in person but I hope one of you guys is lurking now to see this

>>28317878
you're welcome, now node

>>28317974

Lmao I only have 200 not 2,000. Like I said, poorfag.

>>28317878

Okay but remember, if bitcoin crashes this can crash too. PLEASE sell at least your savings back BEFORE dumping avax into your metamask where it will likely be stuck for a while yet.

>>28317858
Yes, did you read what I was replying to
Someone else implied you could use gate.io in the US
Otherwise I’ll just do binance with vpn but I’d have to get another VPN and set it up and I’m lazy

>>28318210
okcoin has a usd pair
I would use that instead of gate.io

>>28317878
Do what >>28318172 said. take at least your initial investment out, don't let greed get the better of you.

>>28318172
>>28318319

Good idea. Will do this Friday.

>>28318210
Listen faggot, I'm trying to help you.

Yes do binance with vpn

>>28317878
As someone who felt exactly the same like you in 2017.... cash out 4k, bask in it, enjoy it, and let the rest ride. You will thank yourself later. Every time it takes a hike up, take out another 1k.
If you don't start doing this now you will get rekt. And don't worry, I was in the same position and making 5 figure trades now like it's nothing.

Aaaaah since pangolin launch nothing is working!

Is anyone actually using this shit or all you all just bagholders?

They're having major api endpoint issues. All transactions are failing for everyone. The bridge is offline. This is the most frustrated I have ever been in crypto. I wanted to give this shit a chance but I ended up losing money claiming my airdrop lmfao and can't even do a simple swap because it's so goddmaned buggy

>>28317878
You're welcome

>>28318269
I hate all this Chinese shit
Looks like they don’t have AVAX/BTC
Can you withdraw from OkCoin?

>>28318559
Yeah seems like they should've delayed it by another week or so. I'm excited for it but I'll wait for Pangolin to get up and running properly before I try it out.

>>28318559
I've been using it, it's only been live for 4 months, there's no real network issues it's the fact that a bandaid web-wallet being hosted by ava is getting overloaded with traffic.

Desktop app which is coming soon will fix all these issues.

>>28318442
All right yeah

>>28318716
You have to verify your ID to withdraw, I think

I fucking hate this. I just wanted to turn my PNG into AVAX. I blew the $100 in ETH on an airdrop I can't collect.

REEEEEEE

>>28300342
I staked to force myself to have diamond hands. Bought 240 at 3.6$ sold my initial at 7.2$. Then swing traded like a fool and only 100 left. Bought them at 24$ and forced to stake so I can't touch it for 90 days. I believe this is a black swan like AMPL was on 12mc. If ETH fuks up in v2.0 we will see a big migration happen from ETH to AVAX.

>1k eoy

>>28301249
Underrated.

>>28320231
The main thing is ETH 2.0 is scheduled for December. Avalanche has hell of a head start to begin establishing itself as the "eth killer" and with Pangolin live it's already doing so

Is it too late to get in at ~50 USD / AVAX?

>>28320654
pangolin is just a copy paste of UNI that is completely bricked for the time being

the whole 'dude trust me we'll get the bugs fixed' just pisses me off more. this shit is a fucking DISASTER and I am beyond frustrated

>>28321291
I see it being worth around $400 at it's peak. Compare it's market cap with ADA and DOT, shows the potential growth it could still have.

>>28300701
Are you literally retarded? Its the easiest thing in all of crypto. I bought GRT and needed a fucking phd to stake it compared to this.

>>28321435
Don't you think they did that on purpose? So users can be easily on-boarded onto the platform without confusion and having to learn a complete new UI. Most of the issues it's experiencing right now is due to API nodes caused by the influx of users which is a minor fix.

>>28321435
The fact that it’s a copy paste is bullish. They’ve improved uniswap by orders of magnitude JUST by copy pasting the contract from eth to avalanche.

>>28300342
Do you guys think it's too late to buy?
I have only 120 spare usd (ibn4 poorcountryfagf) but i'm willing to try.
Can it go to 100?

if they improve the process just a bit to get yourself setup and get pairs added there is no way people don't just buy and use
AVAX to trade shittokens

>>28321997
It's going to reach $100. Like I said previously, I think it'll peak around $400.

I lost everything because of this shitty ass network. Not even ETH or NEO were this bad 5 years ago.

Get out while you still can

>>28321997
yeah sure why not I guess.

>>28301185
This. The ball is in ETH's court.

>>28322218
>Makes a profound statement with no substance
Lmao it's like you're not even trying to properly fud

>>28322179

I know jackshit about LP. But is it worth it to do a AVAX/PNG pool? Or should I just stake my 200 Avax?

>>28321997
Sure, buy it at ath

>>28322179
Whats this 400 business? Why you are so sure about this figure exactly? Why not $300? Or $500? Or $5000? All are equally as random surely?

>>28300701
Wow look son it’s a fucking idiot

>>28322491
I wish they offered png rewards for liquidity in any of the like top 100 coins

>>28322491
shit is bricked for now, i dare you to fucking try without pulling your hair out

>>28322523
they're just pulling numbers out of their ass so you'll buy their $50 uniswap clone

>>28322523
Just my opinion on how I see this market rolling out in the next couple of months. I said "around $400" declaring a range for the price.

I guess the difference between price predictions are how bullish one stands on crypto so it's preference really.

>>28322626
Offer something valid to your statement and maybe, just maybe I'll let you out of your cage.

>>28322922
pajeet confirmed

>>28322992
Rajeev actually

& we're about to start gearing up for another leg up... strap in fellas!

>>28322362
Not sure why the mETHheads think transitionin to eth 2.0 will be any smoother than moving to avax. As long as avax does what it’s supposed to do there is no need for eth 2.0

>>28323772
You get it.

>create binance account under VPN
>deposit some bitcoin
>go to convert bitcoin to avalanche
>avalanche not showing up on available conversions
what am I doing wrong here?

>>28324865
Make sure you enabled 2FA through the Google authenticator app on your Binance account.

UP UP UP UP UP
>UP UP UP UP UP
UP UP UP UP UP
>UP UP UP UP UP
UP UP UP UP UP
>UP UP UP UP UP
UP UP UP UP UP
>UP UP UP UP UP
UP UP UP UP UP
>UP UP UP UP UP

Holy shit we are rank 17 now.

>>28325523
We're heading to top 5. Enjoy the ride anon.

>>28325839
TOP 3 AND NOTHING ELSE

>>28325008
I did and it is.

>>28326208
Make a new email, turn on VPN, create a new Binance.com account under a fresh browser, enable 2FA with Google before trading, deposit your crypto, and then buy AVAX.

Did you send BTC to that Binance account or did you buy it from there with a cc or ACH?

>>28326195
I like the way you think anon.

>>28300342
I hope this roach will dump so hard in the bear run, I have only 25 of this, I can't miss another good train like this but I think I have to accept the idea of still poor.

>>28327310
It's been ridiculously strong. A dump can happen, but at the same time you're risking buying it at a higher level if you don't get more now.

Who the hell is pumping it? Surely with volume and prices like this some serious money is involved. Can't just be retail investors can it?

>>28328183
Coinbase and BinanceUS might be accumulating for their eventual listing.

>>28328183
I don't think so. Someone knows something.

Liquidity is growing as well.

>>28328670
Boolish

can btc pls stop dumping. thanks.

>>28301835
I'm staking at least 1m once my staked AVAX is released.

>>28330185
Stake it till you make it

can i buy this through metamask?

>>28330389
Yes, pretty sure.

ok frens it's time to go to bed. i will sleep well dreaming about my bags doing another 50% until I wake up tomorrow. see you then.

>>28331504
Great thing is you can sleep easy knowing China is gonna wake up and poomp the shit out of it and there are no burgers to wake up and sell it now...

>>28318559
I'm a avax shill but come back in a day or so. Things will calm down by then and it api should work.

>>28317878
Anon dont listen to these fucking dumbasses telling you to sell. If you get rid of avax, you cut your staking amount rate of return. Stake for a whole year. MAYBe sell some of your rewards in a year, but i still think that would be foolish. Each of these will be worth ATLEAST 2000 a piece brcause of its deflationary measures, incentives, and tech. Please do not sell, its literally a money printer. To further scale the network the validator staking requirements might get lowered eventually to even lower than 500. Watch a video on the marshmallow problem.

>>28333174
Exactly this.

>>28311965
you can't access c-chain with a ledger. you'll have to create a new wallet and send the avax there to access chain

I'm trying to transfer my AVAX from the C chain to the X chain but it keeps failing saying nothing to transfer even though I have available balance in the C chain.
Also I tried the advanced option to force the transfer but the problem still remains.
Can any anonymous help?

Remember that there are people who bought on the presale at 0.5 and they are STILL NOT SELLING

we're about to POOMP

>>28336374
Fuck yeah

>>28335407
Of course not. The chain is totally bricked but that doesn't matter because WE ARE FUCKING PUMPING LOL

>>28337145
>The chain is totally bricked
So the problem is happening to everyone?

>>28301835
where 2 buy?

>>28337592
yes go to pangolin telegram or anywhere else where people are actually trying to use this abortion of project

>>28321435
>>28322622
>>28337145
>>28337809

>>28337145
>The chain is totally bricked
There's nothing wrong with the chain it's the API wallet that can't keep up with demand

There's already an NFT marketplace on Kusama (polkadot) and they're dead cheap to mint

>>28333174
Don't listen to this dumbass. Sell now and but low. Don't be like these idiots that can't sell because muh stake. Sub $5 here we come

Wanna get in but I live in jew york. Where the fuck do i go to buy this shit?

Did you guys see that? buyers just plowed through a huge sell order in seconds

>>28300342
AVAX just hit 60 on binance. Crack champagne boys.

>>28337145
???? it doesnt work?

My avax is staked till end of march, I'm gonna be fine right bros?

>>28339923
You will be rich af my nigga

>>28339923
Likely, imo.

>>28314946
Never confirmed, only maybe.

>>28300342
Okay I'm pretty sold, $60 entry is not bad for a coin going to 1k.
I have 6eth in my metamask wallet, how tf do I use it to buy avax?
Pls help.

>>28300342
>With ETH 2.0 scheduled to be released in December,

Where did you get that information from?