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What do you mean ‘coming’ Pokémon has been mooning for close to a year now.

>>28709252
I think yugioh cards might take off too. I bought a bunch of Pokémon cards years ago when I first started getting money. Probably not worth that much I just bought holos for $50

>>28709252
this is a good time to sell the shit from your collection to normies who don't know any better

>>28709476
my parents got rid of my cards when I left years ago.

Card anon from the last few threads again. Please ask any questions and post any pictures you have of rare cards!

>>28709252
Tbh, you are a little late to the party, but there is still potential I believe. First things first, you'll need to do research on different cards, and sets and stuff so you can identify counterfeit cards and tell the difference between different printings and such (not as challenging as vintage magic, but still requires work).

The main money in collecting cards (pokemon, magic, yugioh) is in keeping sealed product. These will be where your biggest gains are over 5+ years of holding. The value comes from the speculative nature of a booster box or booster pack (keep in mind people are paranoid of weighted booster packs so they can be harder to liquidate, more on this if requested). The estimated value of a sealed product after opening is always LOWER than the value of the sealed product. Here are some examples of growth from my personal sealed collection:
Evolutions booster box purchased in September 2020 for $175CAD
>now selling for $100-1300 CAD

Ultra Prism booster box purchased October 2020 for $190CAD
>now selling at $400-450

Hidden Fates GX box set purchased throughout 2020 at ~$35 per box
>now selling for $80-200 depending on the art on the box

>>28709992
As far as single cards go the most money is in vintage product. This is true for yugioh, magic and pokemon.

For yugioh you want to keep an eye out for 1st editions from the first few sets (this is where my knowledge for yugioh ends desu, too many different rarities of cards).

for pokemon you want to look for anything WotC era with specific emphasis on looking for 1st editions and shadowless (shadowless 1st editions preferably) see pic related. For modern cards most of the cards hover around the $5CAD to $10CAD range, so are not really economical unless you run an eBay store or have a connection to an LGS (plus opening product is always a lower EV). Though some of the newer sets have chase cards (typically a Charizard - always big value in them) that are worth getting familiar with, some of the recents have been:
Burning Shadows: secret rare rainbow charizard
Hidden Fates: shiny charizard gx
Darkness Ablaze: Charizard VMAX
Champion's Path: shiny charizard V and secret rare rainbow charizard vmax
Vivid Voltage: rainbow rare Pikachu VMAX

The next big chase will be the shiny charizard vmax in Shining Fates releasing next month. This card will easily be a $1000 CAD card I think.

>>28709252
its too late, the media already knows

>>28709252
This is the same thing as chasing a pump in the markets, most of these sellers have been sitting on these cards waiting for an opportunity like this.
Personally I'd rather buy TCG cards that actually utilize the game part of it such as MTG or Yugioh.

>>28710553
If you have the ability to purchase cards through a japanese proxy service it is worth keeping an eye out for limited release Japanese promos. If you want to see the value of these items you can look up "pokemon scream promos", "charizard poncho pikachu" and "mario pikachu" on ebay sold listings. Two recently mooning japanese promos are the Sword and Shield "signed" promo cards of Hop, Bede and Marnie, and the Kawazawa Pokemon Center grand opening box set.

For some quick gains I recommend the following purchases:
Shining Fates seems like it might be pretty low allocations as 401games sold out of everything in literally minutes. If you see this in the wild it is a definite buy and flip. Special consideration should be given to the Elite Trainer Boxes (ETBs) and the Pikachu V box set as these will have highest demand.

The McDonald's 25th anniversary cards that are currently available in the US. There are good optics for these as they were printed during 2020 and are unlikely to get a reprint I think. The packs are small boosters of 4 cards unlike the individually wrapped cards from before, and are unavailable in Canada = big gains on the secondary market. My prediction is that they will mimic Pokemon POP boosters in long term value.

A promo card will be coming out in english at some point called "Special Delivery Charizard", no idea when, but you can expect this card to be instantly $200+. For comparison the Special Delivery Pikachu promo card that was available when the Canadian Pokemon Center website opened is selling for $400+ now (all you had to do to get it was spend $50 on the website).

>>28711188
Lastly with magic cards:
I haven't broken into this market too heavily, but the vintage magic market is pumping pretty hard. You would want to invest specifically in Reserved List cards as the market supply on them is pretty low. You can check mtgstock.com for more information on what the value of cards is currently, but pretty much every card on the reserved list has been following a price growth chart like pic related.

Talk about Revised cards is growing too, and a lot of those cards are pumping in price as the set gets older (white border cards), so buying rares from that set would probably be a good hold investment right now.

For magic you really need to know what you are looking for though, and there are a lot of fake vintage cards circulating, so prepare to get burned if you don't know wtf you're doing.

Lastly sports cards:
This is another market I've been trying to enter lately. Vintage sports cards can be huge money, we're talking 70s or older (the older the better)- talk to your grandpa and see if he has any old baseball cards from when he was a kid sitting around. Avoid cards from the 80s, 90s and 00s like the plague, unless they are MVPs or something (early Gretsky hockey cards for example).

I'm not sure of the value of holding sealed product for sports cards, but there probably is some growth in that field. A lot of the big money is in rare rookie cards, autos and patches. The value of these can fluctuate pretty heavily based on how the players are doing in real life obviously.

Lastly:
My sleeper advice for long term growth are the Fortnite cards made by Panini. Fortnite was(is arguably?) a huge game and a lot of kids from today will be looking to get nostalgic on cards like these in the future, not to mention some of the cards in these packs are already pushing $500+ currently.

>>28709252
thanks for this

You're late as fuck and all my graded 1st ed shadowless commons/uncommons I've been stacking for years are now worth like $300k lmao clown world. Sold ~50k worth last year from like a 20-25k investment.

GOTTA - CATCH - EM' - ALL

PO-KE-MON!

>>28711911
any experience with the Flesh and Blood tcg ?
cards look similar to mtg cards and the first sets are out print

>traded my first edition charizard for some garbage like 17 years ago
>sold my 50 btc for like 500€
>sold the stack of GRT i got at 20c for 33c
Why do I always make the wrong decisions?

>>28709992
Sell rosa full art or just hold onto it? I don't feel like the price will move much.

>>28712294
Never even heard of it but with all tcgs there's basically 2 ways this can go
>1) the game lasts a while, nostalgia sets in, first prints take off
or
>2) the game dies and probably nobody wants them

>>28709252
Buys the top.
Take notes kids.
This is peak performance /biz/.

>>28712294
I don't have any personal experience with F&B, but Rudy from Alpha Investments has been shilling it pretty hard recently. Seems like the game itself is designed to cater to OG Magic players. Looks fun. There is value in the singles and sealed boxes currently, just don't know if it'll peter out and disappear within the decade though.

Another game to keep an eye on is the reboot of the Digimon card game. It's been incredibly difficult to acquire sealed product for this. The game is supposed to be good, so single value will probably be rooted to whether its a playable card or not. Also wary of this as digimon has died once before, but there is still a lot of nostalgia for the series.

>>28712762
If you want to capitalize on the market now would probably be a good time, as there are rumoured Cosmic Eclipse reprints in the pipeline. More availability in the market will drop single prices down for sure, but this is speculative. Rosa is a pretty popular waifu though, so if you don't need the money, I think it would be a good long term hold.

Speaking of reprints, rumour has it that TPCi will be reprinting a bunch of old sets to make it more available for consumers. I'm not really sure how effective these reprints will be as the market is absolutely bonkers right now and it seems every single product gets bought up pretty much as soon as it hits retail. Additionally the sets that will be reprinted are probably going to be standard legal sets so that people can start building decks and shit again. The sets that fall under this and might be good "sell" indicatiors are:
Sun & Moon Cosmic Eclipse
Sun & Moon Team Up
Sun & Moon Unified Minds
Sun & Moon Unbroken Bonds
Detective Pikachu (doubt this will see much rerelease as the set is kind of shitty and it was tied to a movie)
Hidden Fates (seems like this one already got a reprint with the GX tins and ETBs recently, with Champion's Path and Shining Fates being out, I don't see them reprinting this SKU much either).

I AM NOT FUCKING SELLING

>>28714900
fuck this is actually a really rare misprint, the copyright on the card was supposed to be 2002 Wizards. You should get this graded.

the real people making bank on this are the card graders and youtube unboxers

>>28712581
Just forget about them in the back of your mind with passwords in a safe bro.

It's like what I heard about Trump how he could have made more money just letting his his inheritance appreciate rather than putting it into his failing business ventures.

>>28709252
it's out of your reach, to make money off of it you have to be a youtuber like maxmoefoe or be a richfag game shop owner who can buy stuff at wholesale prices or like that vintage mtg chink who travels all over the world to buy and sell high end graded cards

>>28715110
what's the misprint i cant find it.

>>28715110
I've got a misprinted Goblin Attack Force(fire color instead of black earth color for element in top right)
Any ideas on if this is rare or worth much? Haven't found much from looking around on the internet.

>>28715731
I was just yanking anon's chain, sorry if I got you excited.

>>28716101
Yugioh is not really my wheelhouse. I suggest joining a yugioh facebook group or discord and connecting there. It seems like a misprint like this sold for $40CAD recently though, so not bad.

Speaking of misprints, one that was announced recently, and kind of just blipped away is Cinderace 036/202. The first printings were printed with a retreat cost of 1 and it has been errata'd to have a retreat cost of 2. Additional printings of Sword & Shield will probably reflect this change.

It would be pretty easy for a whale to buy up the regular and reverse versions of this card and then hold them until reprints enter the market...

I sold this for 5k two years ago when I was nearly broke. I wanna kys myself.

>>28709252
Cardboard beanie babies

POKEMON CARDS ARE FUTURE WORLD RESERVE ASSET

>>28709252
>GME train is done for
Ngmi

All memes aside though I think its because of that faggot Critikal's braindead normie idiots just parroting what their FAV E-CELEBS do

>>28716800
This is my prize gem of my sealed collection. One of my local shop owners is kind of a hoarder, and had to move his shop to a new unit because of covid. I went in and asked him if he had found anything interesting, and he showed me the 1st edition booster box of Gym Challenge for $1000CAD. Kind of laughed it off as being outside of my price range because I didn't know the value at the time. Checked online later that night and saw that a single booster pack was selling for like ~$360. Slept so shitty, was worried he was going to recheck price and put it way outside my price range. Went first thing in the morning and bought it. Never going to sell.

>>28715557
Nice FUD nigger
These tubby fucks mostly just scalp that nasty cardboard shit after spending their week at garage and estate sales

>>28709252
>"GME is done for"
>"OMG POKEMON CARDS!!!?!?!?!?"
lmao melvin and their psyop distractions are at it again.

Anyone buying the McDonald’s cards?

Wait. You guys haven’t been going to McDonald’s and ordering happy meals for the sole purpose of collect the 25th anniversary trading card packs that come with each kids meal? I mean come on they’re already selling for more than the meal costs on eBay. Use logic

>>28717651
A friend and I are splitting a sealed case of these. 75 packs each, and bought in at $1200 CAD. I think there are really good optics on these, see:
>>28711188

Just waiting for my bag of crazybones to be worth $1M

>>28717893
Interesting tip about the Japanese cards; I know how to read it decently so I should take advantage of it.

>>28709252
literally just long nintendo, theyve got the 25th anniversary coming in like 2 weeks
free fucking money boys

>>28709992
Why did you say my Holo charizards in good condition are worth only $300 you son of a bitch. I’ve seen piece of shit charizards sell for over 1k

>>28718591
Depends on what version of the charizard it is anon. Post a picture of your cards, front and back for me to see again, there were a lot of charizards in these threads

>>28711188
pretty much this, already scooped pre orders on ebay for delivery charizard at 300+, got ETBs for shining fates for around 80-90, and already scooped some MCd's booster packs.

im mad i sat on marnie jap promo it was 68 bucks now its 130

thinking of buying more shining fates ETB/ battle styles booster boxes or MCd's packs.

I found my old cards back in 2015, bough a case for them, and and tried to finish my collection again.
Was buying some missing cards for 10-20 dollars, now those cards are like 50-80, fuck it, seems with these rising prices I wont be able to finish, hope there's a crash coming.

(yes, the Chansey is fake, one of those cards I also tried to replace)