/biz/ - Business & Finance

There's nothing coming

>>29396637
SLV,GLD

>>29396729
>40% of entire US currency supply was printed last year
yes it is

>>29396637
wtf do I do?
split my cash between PM/commodities?

>>29396800
and it went directly to the richest americans.
you think they just spend it? hell no
poor people still poor

>>29396637
You can't do shit to prepare for hyperinflation. Some say buy assets but you have to sell assets in order to buy shit. If true hyperinflation is happening selling is the last thing you want to do.

>>29396783
>>29396637
BUY PHYSICAL GOLD AND SILVER

>>29396637
I require sauce

>>29396800
Wake me up when the inflation hits. I'm not a fucking burger so I don't care

>>29396945
All the consumer goods that are not produced in your country will increase in price, so say hello to 3k entry level graphic cards.

>>29396800
And yet, pretty much nothing happened in term of inflation in the real economy.
It's almost like we're in a fucking pandemic and the real market is in a crisis.

>>29397069
>what is China
I don't care about your computer autism

>>29396945
based

>>29397136
have you looked at asset prices lately? how can you say "nothing happened"?

>>29396945
US dollar is a world reserve currency. Most countries hold US treasuries. Guess what happens to your shithole when Burgerstan hyperinflates?

>>29397468
The stock market and the housing market is not representative of the real market. Whenever the bubble pop, you're not gonna think about inflation, lmao

>>29397468
>assets
Hyperinflation is about consumer goods. Nothing happens until your grocery store prices start to double

>>29397468
He looks at the price of eggs to judge inflation like a good little goy. Ignoring big ticket items (education, healthcare, real estate, other assets)

>>29396637
Move to another country. Should lessen your exposure.

>>29396800
Ok and? Economics is much more complicated than that.

>>29396637
$KNPD

>>29397619
Inflation is literally the expansion of the money supply. Prices rising are symptoms of inflation.

>>29396637
who is that person?

>>29396637
>>29396800
What do you mean upcoming? It's already here. You can't buy a home or get a loving wife unless you're in the top 20%. Your race was diluted and destroyed. You're already living in the ruins.

>>29396800
Inflation went into stocks, commodities, real estate and crypto. Consumer goods like foods, electricity and water isn't rising and probably will never rise. To quote /pol/: "Nothing ever happens."

>US Treasury printing like crazy
>ECB printing like crazy
>Retards think inflation won't spike

Unironically doge

What do you think will happen when the stock market bubble and the housing bubble pop? You really think that it'a gonna be transfered to an increase in inflation?
ffs
Yes, things are gonna be shitty in the near-future but certainly not in term of inflation.

>>29397198
are you excited to consume goods produced in china? especially goods for export.

>>29397585
You really think everyone depends on cheap dollar, right?

>>29396637

Invest in Steel

Look at CLF chart 09-14

>>29398067
We already consume, look around you

>>29396926
>>29397757
james charles

>>29397969
inflation wont spike

>>29396637
Silver and silver stocks. Crypto goes to zero when COMEX defaults.

More likely, inflation rise a bit and the fed increase the federal funds rate, which crash the multiple bubbles that we're saying right now.
No hyperinflation here.

>us yields going up while inflation and rates still down
>bitcoin dumps 20%
>gold and silver up 1%

Face it, internet money had its run and now its over. Congrats to everyone who played it. But if you don't convert your cryptocurrency into real money like gold, you're going to be in for a lot of pain when reality destroys the fantasy that is Bitcoin.

>>29398243
>james charles
BRUH IM BEING SERIOUS COME ON

Well bitcoins are worth quiet a lot in venezuela but thats probably cause you can trade them for dollars.

>>29398327
Peter Schiff, is that you?

>>29396637
Lots of ammo, a couple of good guns, and lots of non perishable foods and water.

>>29396888
Only poor fags hold cash you retarded nigger. Rich buy assets

Inflation wont happen because normies are overleveraged on debt right now. Every retard and their mom is refinancing their homes, buying crypto, stocks, etc. Debt is a tool for enslavement, bankers won't just let normies own a bunch of assets for no work.

>>29398297
Not stocks, PHYSICAL gold/silver

>>29396637
That bitch is on drugs

>>29397744
So what? When people talk about hyperinflation, they don't talk about stock market prices or silver prices, not even housing prices. They talk about everyday purchases, consumer goods. Look at how people bring up Venezuela or Weimar Germany as comparisons, it's about the food, the gas, the fucking toothpaste.
Until grocery store prices rise, I don't care.

>>29396637
>>29396926
>>29397757
Lil_purrmaid

took me 1 minute to find the name

lel are u an idiot?
wat a’fuck ur talking about here?
I am not a tard who goes for trashtokens that they shill here
longing for bot ocean private sale and their launch
want to trade with top bot like a pro

>>29398549
>Inflation wont happen
Already has (money supply increased)

>Normies have a lot more money
Seems like a recipe for something, no?

>>29398557
Miners have counterparty risk but offer leveraged returns. The average silver penny stock went up 150x when silver doubled.

>>29398300
The Bank of Canada has already declared it's not going to adjust fiscal policy (printing) until 2023.

And Yellen just said:

>Well, I think the market for Treasuries is very robust. The Fed will buy whatever they think is appropriate from the standpoint of monetary policy. But, there is a robust global market for U.S, U.S. Treasuries. And, you know, we expect to, we don’t see any pressure in terms of being able to finance the deficit and I expect that to continue.

The nuspeak term for this is "forward guidance" or "telling the markets what you are going to do ahead of time." The central banks aren't going to pop this. The market would have to overpower their manipulations.

>>29398327
Gold is cheaper now than it was 10 years ago. Nice hodl you got there bro

>>29398741
Finally, someone sane in this fucking thread.

>>29398822
Nope. All of those assets are just increasing on the premise that there will be inflation. All speculation. They don't actually have money they just hold a lot of IOUs and worthless junk. They will get rugpulled if they keep sleeping in bed with the bankers and their schemes

All these retards saying stupid shit.
Wanna survive a possible hyper inflation? Buy 3-5 years worth of non perishable food, good food, water tanks, water purification methods, and common use stuff (toilet paper, medicine, personal higiene, condoms, entertainment, some technology and batteries) all enough for 5 years. If you own property, keep it hidden. If you don't, don't keep it with yourself. Rent a cheap storage unit and keep it there, well sealed.

You'd probably spend 10.000 usd, more or less. If hyperinflation happens you will have a back up of food and any necessities until the world economy is fixed. That shit you bought would be worth at least 200k or even worth, and you can focus your money on more basic survival. Venezuela had this.

Having a passport ready and backup citizenship is another good thing to jump ship fast before borders are closed.

>>29397739
>retard excusing and brushing off a clearly incapable government printing out fuck ton of money like it means absolutely nothing
jesus

>>29396800
what you forget to mention is the accompanying destruction of capital due to the coof
how much money on paper at least did you think went up in flames last year, hotels, restaurants, culture, airplanes, offices, stores and all the real estate value and rehypothecated value on that real estate
without the cash injection the whole system would tip over
as of now there are no conditions in place for hyperinflation, none of the printed money is finding its way into the average plebs hands so everything for daily life is staying flat, this being wages, basic staples, basic entertainment options and rents
there is however a lot of hot money being directed to investors hands so expect to see a lot of bubbles in a lot of assets but almost none of it will trickle down to the average joe on the street

that is of course not to say any of this is good news, the system really is crashing and we are going to see a massive bifurcation of society in at least three castes: people (being elite and below them high tech workers) and cattle
hyperinflation was a solution of more primitive societies where money was physical and most businesses were either self owned or very small, in most countries that experienced hyperinflation a significant percentage of the people were living as just above subsistence farming
in todays world with digital money (not crypto yet i mean credit cards and internet bankaccounts) and megacorps with 1000's of employees making all the basic stuff you cannot get hyperinflation, topdown control is much more present and stuff will get rationed or simply be not available but none of that will results in runaway monetary velocity
for an example see most of post war soviet union
with todays mega farm

>>29398741
You know what came before all those events you just named? Rapid expansion of the money supply (inflation)

>>29396637
am I missing something?
Literally just don't own fiat.
am I wrong?

>>29397710
Sometimes I dream of living in a minecraft place of my own.

Don't worry goys, the FED is making sure we don't go above 2% inflation every year!

>>29399408
Yeah wake me up when consumer goods prices go to the roof

>>29397710
Invade another country. Should lessen the US's exposure as long as they got the oil

>>29396907
You have no idea what an asset is do you?

>>29399604
Why? What are you going to do once you are awake? You are already fucked because "muh I'll wait until shit hits the fan"

>>29398546
which is why the market is up

>>29399604
a big mac combo meal is nearly $10 in most places.

>>29399736
Do you have guns and canned food stored in your basement in case of social collapse?

>>29396637
Invest in real estate. Most contracts are adjusted to inflation/CPI

>>29399687
Pulled straight from the definition: assets represent value of ownership that can be converted into cash.

The problem, if you are in a hyperinflation scenario every minute that passes after you convert to cash it is devaluing.

>>29399316
highlighted are all the parts I bothered to read of your mega post

>>29396637
what is she doing?

BTC, Alts and gold

>>29398757

>>29399167
>ITS GONNA CRASH ANY DAY NOW GUYS!!!

We get it, you’re bored and wanting something to happen. None of your fallout new Vegas fantasies will happen though.

>>29400002
todays zoomers and their attention span
have fun in the world its made just for you

>>29396800
Inflation went into stocks, commodities, real estate and crypto. Consumer goods like foods, electricity and water isn't rising and probably will never rise. To quote /pol/: "Nothing ever happens."

>>29396637
Those meth eyes

>>29398979
Yes, its called a fucking signal. Its not hard to understand. Do you think they really gonna keep that signal if inflation rise at 3%, the upper side of the inflation fork for BOC?
Same shit for the fed.
The rise of the director's rate is gonna pop those bubbles, its gonna be a krash but in no way we're gonna get hyper-inflation.

>>29400132
You're actually retarded.

I never had a woman look at me like this

It's hard for hyperinflation to hit the USD because the rest of the world has a demand for USD (as smaller countries are also printing like crazy and want to shelter somewhere, and the easiest thing to buy is USD).

Also, the USD has been under target for inflation for the last decade or so, so there's not really any reason why a higher inflation rate for a while wouldn't be healthier than keeping this deflationary economy.

>>29400536
she's probably on mdma

>>29396637
By organizing with like minded men in Patriot Front. Investing in people is more effective than investing in guns and gold.

>>29396637
YOU HAVE ONE TASK

>>29396637
You most likely won't.
You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy.

>>29399316
cattle arent just gonna take that, conditions were/are already on the precipice. The UBI concessions are gonna be peanuts compared to the profits the top class is making, but its gonna be far from 'cattle'. I actually think it will be a golden age.

>>29396637
Buy a cow, dig a pond and stock it, raise chickens, wear a ski mask and steal your neighbors possessions at gunpoint, grow a garden and learn to make preserves.

Lol, you can start by looking up what a liquidity trap is.

>>29399891
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>>29396637
Find a way to avoid taxes as chances are they want to tey monetary money theory shit. Where they think they can print as much as needed as long as they tax the everlivig shit out of people. Basicly makig everyone a serf

>>29400615
>deflationary economy
Economy is deflationary but we don't see any deflation. If deflation was really possible with current printing we would have seen in by now.
Once economy stops being deflationary it's game over. No central bank will stop printing press. Too many countries print run trade and budget deficit. They need to print to pay back loans.
Hyperinflation is only matter of time. Get ready. Buy tangible assets.

>>29396637
There won't be any collapse.
The noose only tightens over time.

>>29401144
Basically this is the roadmap

>CBDC releases
>everyone gets free monthly airdrops
>the catch is that you have to spend ALL of it by the end of the month.
>whatever isn't spent gets deducted from your next airdrop
You will own NOTHING and be HAPPY
You will eat much less meat
You will rent anything you like
Families and monogomy will become as rare as polyamory is today.

>>29398787
youre going to have to dyor
normies are ngmi

>>29396637
Look up stories from Venezuela, for hyperinflation you want stocks of basic and durable goods and physical metals.

Will we have hyperinflation of consumer goods? Not likely.
Venezuela was an importer economy. Sell oil, import basic stuff.

The US is largely self sufficient on basic stuff, except some imports from china.
China runs on the USD anywy, so it'll match USD prices for their exports anyway.
So you won't get hyperinflation on basic goods.

What the Fed is working towards is a split between wages and property (land, houses, stocks,...).
You won't get to buy those on a regular wage in ten years. You can argue you cannot buy them already on a median wage.
To hedge against that you want to buy property now and ride the prices.

>>29401871
yeah but they also accept crypto though

>>29397069
I'm invested big time in graphics cards companies like PC Partner. Already +100% profit. Let's go on with this

>>29396637
A rifle, ammunition, canned food, water filters, a knife

>>29400774
i think thats arguing over semantics, after the lockdowns people will cheer only the be able to walk about unmolested
and yes ubi is coming in the west and it will pay pretty well about a normie tier job nowadays, most people will be quite happy about it
i meant the cattle part as in they have no future or no agency in life, just living as consumer cattle with no grander dreams forever stuck
as of the current conditions i would even bet most normies would sign up willingly by this point

>>29401228
Look at Japan bro, no matter how hard they try to print money and aren't able to get their currency to stop being deflationary. Real estate is fucking worthless, unless you're in the literal center of Tokyo you're gonna lose money on property, they treat it like cars and change homes every 10 years. Wealth inequality rises, because all it takes to make money is holding. People would rather stay at home and save money than to spend it elsewhere, so the whole economy is just in a constant depressed state.

America is having some similar issues because the USD has been 0-1% every year, the FED tries to target 2% but has failed most years in the last 20 years. This leads to depressed wages, a low number of jobs and increased deficit spending because rich people would rather just keep their money in their bank accounts (or luxury goods that keep their value like real estate) instead of spending their money on things that generate jobs so that they don't lose as much value due to inflation.

>>29399941
Yes. I hedge my bets in all markets.

>>29401871
You're comparing a rate of inflation of 3% at worst to 6500% you retard, printing some money doesn't immediately make you vuvuzela

Reminder that you should be buying water
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/investing/water-futures-trading/index.html

>>29402546
the thing is whats keeping us inflation in check are the dollars abroad.
If foreigners stopped using dollars who knows what would happen.

>>29402665
Even then it would be far from the mad max irl scenario that all these /pol/ retards are hoping for.

>>29398546
why do you think they can print seemingly infinite money? most of it is just going into stocks and inflating them, but this does not make your personal buying power of everyday necessities that much weaker. actual hyperinflation is not happening any time soon but the rich will keep getting richer, thats about it

>>29402307
>i meant the cattle part as in they have no future or no agency in life, just living as consumer cattle with no grander dreams forever stuck
>as of the current conditions i would even bet most normies would sign up willingly by this point

And how is that different than the past 80 years?

Same as it always was, there will be a small percentage of people who define their lifestyle and identity on things other than what they are told. And that percentage will grow larger with UBI.

>>29402901
>shitty nig neighborhood two room apartments costing 400k is okay
The housing price hyperinflation will eventually lead to either corporate-style feudalism or a violent uprising.

>>29399891
Is this why Sergey dumps?

>>29398757
holy long titties batman

>>29403099
Its a bubble. The bubble is gonna pop like every bubbles before it.
Doesnt mean there's hyperinflation in the real economy.

>>29403420
How the fuck is massive demand for housing a 'bubble'? Mass immigration is going in the opposite direction dumb-ass. And housing regulations stifle and building projects.

>>29402665
Name 3 countries who primarily use Dollars

And don't say China because they're fucking dumping

>>29398297
Can't trade it on webull so I don't care

>>29396637
I find this woman more attractive with her clothes on than off.

>>29403738
El Salvador, Panama, Puerto Rico

>>29399316
Good post, anon. Everyone pictures some extreme Zimbabwe/Weimar situation that I don't believe will occur either. What were seeing is the continual and controlled transfer of wealth and assets into the elite class.

>>29403880
Yikes
Good luck friend
I hope these literal 80 iq countries can keep propping up the """"dollar""""

>>29403738
I live in Costa Rica and our prices are half in the local currency and half in Dollars. This is replicated all over Latin America (I have personally seen it in Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, etc), due to a mistrust in the local currency because of short runs of hyperinflation in the local currency in the past.

This also happens all over the Caribbean, South East Asia and probably the rest of the third world.

>>29402992
>And how is that different than the past 80 years?
the past 70 years were a golden period to build wealth from nothing anon
every market was booming from the 60's onwards
every boomer could try and open his own business and even succeed with a little intelligence
to who you were born did not matter there were little barriers to entry if you could gather the startup capital
this will all be a thing of the best its back to hereditary laws, no opening anything if you aren't an accredited investor type of stuff
to give an example how many people went from dirt poor peasant tier parents to medium made it tier by opening their own car dealerships in the post war period in the west, now how many people did something like that in russia were there was no free enterprise

>>29404017
Aside from south america everyone bases their secondary price on the Euro, not the dollar

>>29404104
I have literally never seen prices in Euros outside of the EU, that might be the case in western europe I guess, but I doubt that's going to be the case in Asia, as the US's influence is strong.

>>29403420
>it's just a bubble goy
>also don't worry about 30 years of stagnant real-income in face of steady "low" inflation
There is no bubble, it's simply massive amounts of money which have flooded the market raising asset prices to unobtainable heights while income has steadily declined. Combine that with mass immigration from nig nog central and an incoming massive population explosion from that useless shithole continent and we'll see some massive uprisings unless this world is going full on brave new world.

>>29404263
>The US's influence is strong in Asia
Listen Burger-man, I know that your tap water is filled with hallucinogens and estrogen, but you can't keep living in fantasy land forever.

>>29402412
>Japan
>trade surplus
>no gibs
>monoethnic society
>insane work hours
>almost no consoomers
>no immigration
Yea it's just like West. West has no manufacturing base and US biggest export are dollars and treasuries. And Japan never printed like US does.
>believing official inflation rate
ngmi
They are changing CPI basket just to pretend we don't have inflation.
And with low oil price everything is cheaper. If oil rises to previous highs inflation kicks in.
>America is having some similar issues because the USD has been 0-1% every year, the FED tries to target 2% but has failed most years in the last 20 years. This leads to depressed wages, a low number of jobs and increased deficit spending because rich people would rather just keep their money in their bank accounts (or luxury goods that keep their value like real estate) instead of spending their money on things that generate jobs so that they don't lose as much value due to inflation
This is your brain on Keynesian economics.
Rich people don't hold cash only retarded boomers do.

>>29404263
LOL

>>29404065
>every boomer could try and open his own business and even succeed with a little intelligence

I think you're even giving them too much credit here. My brother-in-law's father owns an auto shop that he opened in the 80's. He is one of the most socially inept, business incompetent people I've ever seen. Not a single cent has ever been re-invested into the shop, it is a wasteland of old cars, not a single thing is modernized.

He's a multimillionaire and has been offered seven-figure buyouts from large repair shop chains several times. Some people just fucking stumble into success.

>>29399079
Good luck leaving the country with this covid bullshit. Even if they let you they are gonna make you take the sterilizing vaccine that also has a chance of killing you.

I done know which one is more realistic
>total collapse like venezuela
>no collapse, just a drastic price increase over a short period

>>29404676
>Take wood
>Build Raft
>Swim to Europe like a Refugee
>????
>Profit

>>29403099
if i ignore how the world works then my uneducated opinion would also be that it's not okay, but this has been the system for a long time now, 2 decades and the economy needs to keep this going to not collapse and trust me we are not even close to the verge of a true collapse, we're likely even to see a decent correction in some assets like stocks and crypto soon

literal nothingburger

>but muh dr. burry said so

>>29404764
Total collapse and race war is more realistic

>>29404871
What does true collapse look like?
Because this summer we had niggers looting and burning the majority of all major cities

>>29396637
Buy BTC and move to China.

>>29404871
>the economy needs this
>trust me
Suck my uncut dick kike.

>>29396637

>>29404065
>if you could gather the startup capital
which few people actually did because they were too engrossed in their consumer lifestyles. My boomer parents literally didn't have a dollar saved outside of what they inherited when their parents died (which they are now blowing in their retirement). Yes it was a golden period of wealth accumulation, you literally just had to buy cheap land and hold, but that is the furthest thing from a meritocracy, profiting off a shell game and leaving your kids with the bags.

The golden age will appear in other aspects of life. Not everyone identifies themselves by wealth alone. Culture has been stagnating for a long time. The opportunity for personal development when you have food and housing being taken care of is unlimited.

>>29404827
>get to Europe
>get beheaded for being white

>>29396888
They spend it on property so hyperinflation on the most important asset and purchase for a young family.

>>29400536
Shoot one up with meth

>>29396729
https://www.bls.gov/regions/mid-atlantic/data/averageretailfoodandenergyprices_usandmidwest_table.htm
keep thinking that, niggerghoul goycattle deblsave.

>>29396637
Buy KXPLF and RYCEY

ITT A BUNCH OF RETARDS THINKING THE FED ACTUALLY "PRINTS" MONEY

THEY JUST INFLATE THE BANKS'S RESERVES THAT THEY CAN'T TOUCH

FED BUYS BONDS AND SHIT TO PROP MARKET UP

>>29404871
Imagine for a second if the powers that be just reset the debt to zero and said we are gonna just start over. How would this affect the world? Debt is meaningless because fiat money is meaningless.

>>29405296
>reset debt
Cool it with the anti-semitism, pal.

>>29404412
It's the definition of a fucking bubble, a irrational increase of demand because people think it will increase massively in the future, even tho there was no real increase in real value.
What was the increase of value with the covid in the housing and the stock market?
Pretty much none, except some people wanting to leave the city because of telework. The increase of that demand is truly not representative of the rise in price that we're seeing right now. Same thing in the stock market.

>>29401871
>What the Fed is working towards is a split between wages and property
how?

>>29405296
>China, Japan, Russia own trillions in US bonds
>US: "alright we're just gonna reset because retarded"
>Countries just take it
You could kiss any superpower status good bye if that were to happen and probably China would annex Guam for shits and giggles as retribution
You don't just steal trillions like that from other countries and not expect blowback

>>29405282
Yup, people thing we are crashing meanwhile the DOW is less than half a percent from new all time highs.

In clown market up only half a percent per day = bear market cause of the 3% daily inflation.

>>29404978
cant even imagine what angry mobs would do but people would have to lose hope in the fiat system for the house of cards this economy is built on to collapse

>>29405043
just educate yourself and you will be a lot less angry about everything once you understand it, nobody is sayin the system is perfect but it is just the way that the world works now

>>29405296
the great depression vol 2

>>29405282
And then the banks buy assets and debt in the form of loans to third parties who buy assets. Asset inflation is real dumb dumb. Asset inflation isreal. Asset inflation Israel.

invest in kneepads

>>29404827
Europe is hellish right now, complete police state, the NWO is almost fully implemented here, America at least has 2A as a hedge against that, they'll have to roll out slower there.

>>29405531
I unironically don't understand why other countries aren't dumping

Makes me believe in the one world government

It's like I bought a pajeet shitcoin and based everything I had on that scam and than did nothing for the next 50 years to diversify and instead just kept buying the shitcoin in the hopes that it makes me a profit

>>29396637
>>29396637
High velocity explosive magazines, bunkers, and ARPA.

And sword.

>>29405895
I only need to get to europe so I can get to my Dacha in Russia

Russian government can't police anything, My grandmama survived hyperinflation after the collapse of the soviet union, and the only reason she could was because of the farm land

>>29405625
>It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” ― Henry Ford

Guess what the internet is doing?

>>29397883
Yeah you can

>>29399033
Cantillon effect. Money enters assets first and consumer goods second.

>>29398741
Grocery store prices are already up 10%.

>>29406230
Source?

>>29406031
more power to you then, sounds like a good plan. PM of Sweden said no entry to any cultural site without digital Vaccine passport by June, same being mooted here in UK, Israel already implemented the sytstem for supermarket entry etc, I think early summer will be the last ever window of opportunity to fly (or enter a restaurant in the West ) unvaccinated. Closed by mid summer.

My new low level cash cow is Data (DTA) , buying and selling for weeks. nets me about 500 dollar a week if you look for dips

>>29397069
Would hyperinflation just increase American jobs, because labor would end up being cheaper here and have more American products since other countries products would be too expensive?

>>29405908
China will dump eventually

As for the reason why it's mainly leverage

USA needs to put money somewhere. China says "we'll buy" and meanwhile USA can't say shit to China. USA:s strategy is to inflate the debt away but to do that they'd inflate Chinese assets that are denominated in dollars anyway. So it's a leverage play for China which the USA has no way of winning in

>>29406317
>but to do that they'd inflate Chinese assets that are denominated in dollars anyway.

Maybe you dont let an enemy power just fucking buy up your entire country. Get what you fucking deserve. Can't wait to see the chinks genocide the jews.

>>29396637
>How can one survive the upcoming hyperinflation.
First, you need to hedge your assets into something safe like real estate or metals
Second, if you want to thrive then you need to figure out a way to offer a commodity that will be in demand. For example, learn to farm or raise livestock.
The first point will save you, the second will help you thrive

>>29399970
well yes, but why dont i just use bitcoin for large purchases invest in a sack of silver shillings enough for 1-2 years for daily purchases of food and rent and maintain a humble homesteading lifestyle to have most my basic needs met?

>>29406510
implying hillary clinton and these retards give a fuck
biden is literally bought by china bro

>>29396637
Bitcoin, unironically

>>29406317
I have always red ''China is the new place where to park money''

>>29396637
the fed and treasury arent stupid enough to let this happen
but buy BTC, RSR, GEEQ

>>29406931
ofc i never said they werent, Trump was the one trying to protect the US from China.

>>29407157
this was the narrative because china's taken over the entire world order because world order was incredibly lazy and naive at the wheel

>>29396637
Uh why her pupils so big? Is she on something?

>>29405059
Why are the aiming at the sky?

Reminder that crypto wont save you from inflation

>>29407592
If you are currently not exposed to either market, which one would you choose at this point in time?

>>29405531
Didn't it work for one country that one time it's ever happened though?

>>29396921
I CANT THE PRICES ARE HYPERINFLATING

>>29404676
t. Absolute Retard

>>29396637
Every time I cash out, I dread this thought. Literally cashing out to a worse currency just for the pure liquidity.

>>29400774
>cattle aren't just gonna take that
This is nonsense. In what parallel universe are you living, mate? Because if you haven't paid attention, the cattle has been willingly taking up the ass and locked down in their cages for an entire year without as much as a complaint.

>>29396637
physical Gold and Silver, food, water, guns and ammo.

It’s going to be the great depression + niggers

>>29398757
how did you find her?

>>29398225
Why hasn't this faggot killed himself yet

>>29403099
> It's racist to not want to live there
tfw looking at bay area condos, a 1br in Palo Alto (50% white) is $750k, but a 1br in Redwood City (25% white) is $500k.

Imagine all the dead beat ameritards that are going to dump these checks into BTC . Oh boy i really hope NA burns into the ground.

>>29397960
Spotted the fag under 30

you do realize that a small fraction of the total money supply is paper cash right?

>>29401838
Should I blow my brains out b4 this?
I prefer to be FREE than always 'happy'

>>29396945
What assets do you hold that aren't tied to USD? Unless you're all in crypto and metals, you're talking shit

>>29408014
google image search and followed the rabbit hole

>>29397883
>unless you're in the top 20%.
how much is this?

>>29403878
Many such cases

>>29397883
>unless you're in the top 20%.
100% of people here make 150K/year.
and 100% of twitter make 0/year.
I'm looking for a realistic number (without going outside)

>>29397960
>and probably will never rise.
i wonder if russians or germans talked like this too

>>29397969
Unemployment peaking like crazy, too. Inflation comes from disrupted supply chains, not tight capital and employment markets.

>>29407320
Enemy drones.

>>29410147
100k or Chad Genes

>>29401503
>Brewster's millions?
why would that be the play

>>29402412
japanese homes are made of paper and actually degrade after 10 years.

>>29405521
owning a home costs 100 years of wages? something like that i imagine.

>>29405059
>Zeus Pater, Sky Father
they're attacking the patriarchy

>>29396637
RSV

>>29405296
>>29405531
im confident Joseph Biden will fix it.

Invest in energy independence. energy costs are about to shoot the fucking moon. Don't put all your eggs in one basket, everything has its downsides. I've been stockpiling gasoline (ideally this would be diesel but Id rather use the same fuel for my transportation and power generation), as well as buying a few solar panels on a loan while interest rates are down.

>>29405895
fucking idiot. america is just as surveilled as europe/china, and they've convinced you it's not. literally the only place the government is not watching your every move is where they're too poor to do it. move to SEA.

>>29407675
Both.

Because fuck you, you mentally ill compulsive accumulator.
I'll make profits while you jerk off on your stupid rocks.

>>29412226
Buy signal.

>>29397069
No, anon. Hyperinflation is what happens when the production capacity of your country has collapsed and your nation is now dependent on imports or forced to pay debts in a foreign currency. Governments are forced to keep the money printer on to meet keep importing shit even though the country cannot afford imports at all. Nigeria has increasingly more inflation since the oil crash caused their exports to become worthless. They are primarily importing food from other nations and this forces the government to keep the money printer on, otherwise 20% of the people there would starve.

The answer is to teach the monkeys how to farm their own food with tractors.

>>29412894
I think I responded to the wrong comment.

>>29397883
>top 20%
Anon, I am in the top 1%, and I am struggling to get a home that I own, without losing half my wealth just to get it. The government won't get out of my way.

>>29410709
a year or net worth

>>29406230
at least

>>29396907
The issue is getting out of dollars into other assets dude. You avoid future inflation (i.e. deceased purchasing power of the dollar) by taking those dollars and buying other assets. Capisce?

>>29413096
>I am in the top 1%
how much is that

>>29398741
This anon gets it. Hyperinflation is caused by the economy collapsing and making everything expensive because there is nothing left on the shelves.

>>29412894
>when the production capacity of your country has collapsed
So like. The exact thing that's about to happen while the son of the POTUS smokes crack and fucks hookers on the payroll of Chinese oligarchs?

>>29407946
>It’s going to be the great depression
why?

>>29396637
By investing in guns and gun accessories. Seriously your just gonna sit there or take shit from atf?

>>29398741
>Until grocery store prices rise, I don't care.
have you been to a grocery store lately? kek

>>29413452
He will have to fuck a lot of hookers.

You guys know how inflation works right?
How many of these do you see going on right now?
IMO we are still missing wages and devaluation against our other trade currencies.

>>29414000
Compare USD and EUR. Some devaluation did happen but it's only like 10%.

>>29414088
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/USDEUR/

Set the duration to 5 years

>>29414000
Historically hyperinflation has only taken place when the countries production base has been destroyed, which ours hasn't. We do have devaluation, higher wages, increased money supply, and bottomed interest rates. We also, to a degree, have VAT because of the trade wars going on (just another tax)

>>29414299
Comparing two devaluing currencies comparatively doesn't mean there is no devaluation.

Ive asked this question before and havent gotten an answer yet; are US equities going to deflate/crash as people flee to uninflated foreign equities, are all equities inflated, and people will pump the harder as they flee to them as a refuge?

>>29414357
>countries production base has been destroyed,
what does the US produce?

>>29414357
There's more than one way to drop a bomb, anon.
>Insert picture montage of BLM riots this summer.

>even though we just expanded M2 by 50% inflation isn't happening because bread is the same price
The second emergency measures end and the money velocity picks up you'll see a years worth of inflation compounded into a month.

Anon check $MCM

>>29414469
I tried a bunch of different pairs:

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FLSE%3ACHF/

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FASX%3ASEK/

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FXETR%3AAUD/

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FNASDAQ%3AGBP/

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FASX%3ACAD/

https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/spread/AMEX%3AUSD%2FNASDAQ%3ANZD/

>>29414582
Food, water, oil, cars, software, billion other things. It doesn't build houses though so you see inflation there.

>>29414357
So then what do you make of recent news stories like production delays caused by chip shortages? And where do you see our production base trending in the next few years, with a mix of environmental activists and cronies on foreign production's payrolls writing the rules?

>>29414860
It's definitively possible but I am not convinced that the fed can't do anything about that. When the Fed does QE it prints money and uses it to buy assets. If inflation happens the fed can just sell assets when they are high and destroy the money that way.

>>29413396
Not OP but less than you think. I believe it's around 200K a year or a couple million in the bank

>>29413096
Unironically build your own home, it's the only way to avoid paying greedy boomers.

>>29414582
a lot of things.

>>29415114
when things get bad, people flock to the dollar, which is what is happening now. we are still devaluing our dollar and other countries are starting to setup trade networks that don't rely on the dollar as heavily for trade. I'm not freaking out yet, but, I do think we'll see some real inflation.

>>29415378
I can only speak for the automotive industry, but we drop our forecasts on those chips and the tech industry increased their forecasts - so now they're getting chips and we aren't.

I think that we'll be building more things in America moving forward though, globalism is in retreat and I say that not as a poltard but as a guy in the thick of it.

>>29396637
Gold, Silver. The Standard.

honestly if you cant talk to the direct source, the farmer, youre fucked unless you can steal from the farmer, the politician

>>29396637
those are the eyes of a man

>>29403409
found the fag

>>29396945
>I'm not a fucking burger so I don't care
What a mega mind.

>>29402412
>America is having some similar issues because the USD has been 0-1% every year
the actual cost of living for americans has gone up 5-10% each year for the last decade.

>>29415397
And destroy the nation's 401(k)'s? 0 chance. You'd have a D-FENS on every corner.

>>29400774
>I actually think it will be a golden age.
Some say so, it can go both ways. Clif says this. We shall see come summer and we shall know by next winter.

>>29398983
Btfo

>>29397883
this desu

>>29396637
Can someone advise how I buy physical gold or silver in the Uk at a reasonable price

>>29399586
Read the graph. from 50s to 80s the dollar lost 75% of its purchasing power over 30 years.

It went from 80s to 2020 down by roughly 70%. that's 40 years. Inflation is slowing down.

>>29396800
>30%
>20%
>25%
>40%
Make up your mind America,

>>29397595

let s say the stock market "pops" where does the money go!?

>>29398983
>buy high sell low

>>29418174
To the people that sold you the stock.

>>29407168
You are very stupid if you think those 88-year-old demons have a real plan other than print funny money and buy up everything real before they expire and move on to hell. The fed and treasury are retarded children. They cannot stop what is coming, and I don't think that they even want to. They are sucking up the last drops of blood from this American host, then they will move along to China and to the parts of africa that China has been buying up.

Guns and ammo is the only real answer desu, if anyone says physical precious metals they are truly a brainlet. If anything you would want btc/xmr not physical pms.

>>29396729
shill

>>29397136
every single one of my physical assets have gone up in price. my record player literally went for being worth $200 to $600...

>>29396637
>How can one survive the upcoming hyperinflation.

Stock up on guns, ammo, and Lifestraws, unironically.

>>29403931

exactly that.

right on point

>>29396888
No, the richest americans just hold fiat papers in their checking accounts :^)

>>29418174
>money
Anon, it's perceived value. Think of it this way...All shares are valued at what the last one traded at. You don't need a billion dollar going into a stock to make it rise a billion dollars. $1 Trillion did not go into BTC to get that market cap. Enough went in to push order books that high and ever single BTC, even the ones lost forever on wallets, are valued at what the last one is traded at. Stocks, cryptos, it's all like that. If the market pops, then that "money" disappears from the economy completely.

>>29419043
I have a feeling they will not receive a warm welcome in China. Xi is pursuing the Stalin course where he takes direct control and thwarts their plans. They turned on the USSR because of it and they are turning on China.

> how to survive hyperinflation
so far the safe heavens are those that hyperinflate the most, since everyone is running there
The case file of weimar proved, stocks did very well
Not the case in USSR implosion though, but that was not a western system
IMO defensive measures would be to decouple from fiat therefore
> land
> land with water / well
> real estate
> solar panels
> medication

to play inflation and try to become a new wealth as faggots in weimar were able to
> stonks - safer bet, guys like bill gates might shed a bit of valuation of their companies, but will come stronger out of crash long term
> crypto
high risk high reward, in case of hyperinflation we will be trading bread for dogecoins, not gold

>>29420110
> solar panels

That's just another form of land. It's like farming electricity.

>>29414528
They will continue to pump. People will continue to think they are getting rich. Cost of living will continue to go up higher than risk adjusted returns on equities. Eventually SPX will crash and we will get mean reversion, but it looks like we'll get hyperinflation first. I expect past SPX bubbles to be dwarfed on the log chart.

DYOR.
https://recision.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/jens-parsson-dying-of-money-24.pdf

Buy guns and gold.

Good luck brother

>>29419043
wypipo are retarded not to see the straight explanation in their face
all ideology attached, with endless mental gymnastics and explanations is on thin ice, but westerners still fall for it
> what would you do in you had a money printer at your disposal?
the same they do now, printing endless money to buy everything they can for free
simple as

>>29396800
it can't happen unless that money gets into the hands of the general populace, which is not going to happen because they want everyone poor

>>29420527
yes, I've put in in the tiers from most essential

>>29397136
>And yet, pretty much nothing happened in term of inflation in the real economy.
you ever looked at health care prices?

>>29396637
source now pls

>>29396637
BTC

Hyper inflation is not coming because labor does not have control of the supply, this isn't the 1970s where unions rule the roost, chill out ffs

You're already ahead of most people by knowing it's coming, stock up on gold and hard money

>>29396729
Yes it is. 40% of all USD was printed last year. It will take a while since other market factors are applying temporary deflationary effects, but once those end shit will hit the fan

>>29421765
In 2010 the ECB pumped 4 trillion euros in the the system, guess what...nothing happened as Labor no long controls the taps...go watch some Mark Blythe, he explains it better than I do

>>29413717
Ammo...ammo.

>>29421935
the euro saw a massive rise in inflation when they did that, the important thing there was that was the goal, since the euro was bordering upon deflation at that time.

>>29420727
>the same they do now, printing endless money to buy everything they can for free
>simple as
but what exactly are they buying? from whom? and what does the selling party do with all the money?
it doesnt make sense

>>29410624
This is an interesting factor to look at. Thanks for the insight.

>>29414357
>entire production base moves to Mexico and China
>we still have it

>>29407775
>Being priced out at $27/ozt SLV
How poor are you? Even just an ounce is a little over $30 w/ premiums included.

>>29420110
> land
> land with water / well
> real estate
Educate yourself. After Weimar those assets got btfo with taxes. (Eg. those people who bought land with debt and had the debt canceled just got a tax put on that equalled the same amount)

There are a few websites about this.
Bottom line more or less is:
-Those who invested in gold / silver, diamonds and foreign (US and British) stocks and bonds, could bring their money to safety and acquire large goods, companies and businesses in the impoverished Weimar Republic for a SHORT time.
-Those who had a lot of land, on the other hand, had to pay high taxes in the form of repayment of compulsory mortgages.

Translated to our time this should include crypto but only crypto that the government can not trace back to you (e.g. Monero)
They will likely try to tax crypto and if people don't pay up the government will use repressive measurements.

Short the us dollar by taking out loans now and buying other currencies with it.

>>29422434
Massive lol, do share that figure...

>>29422919
Similar things happened after WW2:
The Load Equalization Act (LAG) of 1952
Initial situation:
• Germany was in ruins after World War II.
• The state wants to make compensation payments to those who had suffered losses

The burden sharing comprised three levies (taxes):

1. The property tax
2. The mortgage profit tax
3. The credit gain tax

Property tax:
• A tax of 50 percent (!) Of the market value was levied on debt-free properties.
• The LAG required the non-displaced persons to pay fifty percent of their property on the day of the currency reform, measured against the outdated standard values of the pre-war period.
• The taxes were collected in a compensation fund.
• Lobbyists had enforced allowances and certain exceptions, eg for church (!) Assets.

Mortgage Gain Tax
• This deprived property owners of the advantage that they had gained from the devaluation of their mortgage loans due to the currency reform that cut debts to 1/10 and monetary assets to 1/15.
• Practice: After the currency reform, the debtors had to continue to pay the amount originally set in Reichsmarks for interest and repayments for his mortgage loan in the same amount in D-Mark.
• So that the levying of the mortgage equalization tax could be ended in 1979, surcharges were levied from 1972 to 1979 on the liabilities that would not have become due until after 1979.

Credit profit levy
• The loan profit tax was constructed in a similar way to the mortgage profit tax.
• This siphoned off the profits from companies that arose from the devaluation of their credit debts.

>>29423781
Thanks for the essay, what is your point?

>>29397960
nothing even happens except when it does

>>29423781
why is half that pic fake

>>29422919
thx brah, I just dipped into some historical and financial jscientific /analytical journals
tldr was stonks
you make sense, with rising real estate appreciation the tax will fuck an owner in the ass, but I still think it's better than living in a cardboard box or being priced out of ever owning a land

>>29424841
>>29426047
>I still think it's better than living in a cardboard box or being priced out of ever owning a land
For a primary residence, people will likely be ok.
However, it is retarded to think that buying land is the god-tier strategy to escape and even profit from inflation if you have a couple of million to invest. Crypto and precious metals will escape much more flawlessly.

>>29422845
xD guess again

>>29403738
Zinbabwe (lol), El Salvador, and Cambodia

>>29396637
Have a vagina. A real one.

>>29396921
Actually this nigga right

>>29407320
because women are the enemy of god

>>29399970
You don't have to sell an asset to make money from it you mong. Ever heard of rental income, dividends, or collateralized loans/lines of credit? Or are you a simple plebbitor?

>>29410709
Having a pretty face means you can buy a house?

>>29404590

maybe he knows something you don't

>>29402068
>PC Partner
>Hong Kong stock exchange
I hope you get those gains out fast, friendo

>>29422509
you're baiting me but I'll bite
buying everyone elses' possesions ofc
land, real estate of normies
gov bonds (buying more power over governments)
energetics
buying out companies that are not owned by them yet
etc etc

>>29398426
kek

>>29405059
Target practice on clay targets?

Bump