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29653021 No.29653021 [Reply] [Original]

>other general already going 2 threads per hour
>specific general for brainstop
>red day coming for speculators
Yup, I think it's time to open this thread for today.

>> No.29653296

fucking gme redditors invading smg again

>> No.29653667

Thinking about going balls deep into SQQQ today. The market doesn’t like the retail narrative, does it? NASDAQ would‘ve been red anyways?

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>>29653667
The 10yr treasury is at a 52 week high too.

I wouldn't buy SQQQ right now, I think we are in September territory, where we are just going to crab down 0.1% each day for a month, and then suddenly a +5% green day

>> No.29654365

Seethe nigger, I made the easiest 4x ever buying right before the explosion yesterday and selling AH. Keep making 2% gains off your chink stocks though and thinking you have high iq!

>> No.29654433

>>29653667
Being short equities doesn't make sense in the current market
Being short equities with 3x leverage is just asking to lose money

>> No.29654679

>>29654365
I'm not talking about people like you I'm talking about people from reddit who don't know how anything works but come here for the hype
I'm not into chink stocks so I don't know why you would say that
What lead you to buy? Did you get the news article that cohen had pushed the cfo out?

>> No.29654953

Tired of GME/AMC shit. Been playing pennies this month with good results.

>> No.29655050
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>>29654365
>lol what a loser, just bet on red two times lol
>ez money Xd, what a faggot not doing that
baka

>> No.29655714

>>29655050
in hindsight cohen making moves was bound to cause some volatility but you probably could have gotten in early if you had a bloomberg terminal to get the news instantly

>> No.29656088

>>29655714
You could've also bet on a movement when the senate hearing happened. Would've been an easy way to lose money.
I mean there is literally no way to predict what movement is going to fizzle and which ones won't. And when in the pump phase, you can absolutely not predict when it's going to rebound and how.

It mathematically cannot be possible, since quants and friends immediately price in consistently predictable movements. Everything else is basically gambling.

>> No.29656292

>>29656088
Do you think Medallion trades mainly based off news reports or patterns in past price data?

>> No.29656534

>>29656292
I have some quant friends, and they do very advanced analysis.
One of the examples he gave me is that they parse earnings report and sum up the number of images vs words. If there are more images than last time, it usually means that the company is trying to hide bad earnings behind a flashy report, which is a sell signal.
I think quants can easily do leddit and twitter sentiment analysis and jump on that better than you, I or well anyone can.
Also don't forget the hordes of professional day traders with bloomberg terminals and leddit scraper utilities.

>> No.29657391

>>29656534
Well we know that quant analysis works mainly on very short timeframes. Rentech has done poorly compared to actively managed funds, but Medallion has done great. The first one trades on long timeframes because of having more assets under management, the second trades intraday with high leverage and keeps their funds capped. So probably more of a market making strategy.
I don't think sentiment analysis works very well. Reddit was not even a big factor in the short squeeze, retail was a net seller during the pump (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/05/gamestop-mania-may-not-have-been-the-retail-trader-rebellion-it-was-perceived-to-be-data-shows.html))

>> No.29657943

I wish I knew what was going on with PTON right now.

>> No.29658697

>>29657943
I guess it's just following QQQ or SPY with a multiplier.
Many speculative stocks do this, and people never seem to compare their favourite stocks to relevant indexes and competitors.
You'd realize that you're not holding PTON. You're basically holding 5x SPY with a worse Sharpe ratio.

>> No.29658768

>>29657943
Corona recovery
I remember somebody posting the short thesis on smg and I thought it was pretty logical but I didn't act on it

>> No.29658809

mornin /cmg/, how's the coffee?

>> No.29658999
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29658999

I have finally achieved comfiness and rejected volatility. No longer do I worry about anything because everything I hold goes up. Post your comfy portfolios.

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>>29653021
I'm hodling tight to my APU coin and feeling comfy :3

>> No.29659111

>>29658809
free and terrible

>> No.29659181
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>>29658809
I'm gonna be honest, I cannot get my anxiety levels down. I want to long hold high beta shit like TQQQ, RIDE and GEVO, but it jsut keeps dumping or crabbing. Treasuries are going up. GMEME crashing the market again.
I'm pretty well hedged with a well positioned TSLA put, but all it did is cancelled one red day to 0%, but then cancelled a green day to 0% too.
I don't want to go 100% cash, because of absolute FOMO.

It's starting affect my health. Pls halp.

>> No.29659288

Does Pfizer look cheap to anyone else?

Also, should I be accumulating lots of divy stocks if I have a pretty small port? My real investments are tied up in retirement mutuals and picking stocks is more of a hobby...

>> No.29659374

>>29659181
>I want to long hold high beta shit like TQQQ, RIDE and GEVO, but it jsut keeps dumping or crabbing
Abandon beta, embrace alpha (like >>29658999). I used to hold high beta shit like PACB which goes up greatly when the market goes up but ruins you when it goes down. Also TQQQ is an absolute shit since Nasdump underperforms everything. Reject memes, embrace stable gains.

>> No.29659379

>>29658999
Very nice, you well deserve your digits. I'm still holding a few things I bought at idiot times, so even though yesterday was 100% green I'm still net red.
>>29659288
if stocks are a hobby, then will divs scratch that itch?

>> No.29659559

>>29659374
>Nasdump underperforms everything
This is not exactly true in infinite QE clown market.
I don't want stable gains for now. I'll do value investing when the recession starts around fall.
The naxiety of everything going up hard while I sit on 5% YoY would be even worse than what I feel right now.

>> No.29659623

>>29659181
fuck aussies are so cute

>> No.29659745

>>29659379
I don't know.
>I like seeing the line go up
>I understand investing is a long-term play
>Dividends seem nice long-term, but I don't buy very much stocks, so it's only a few bucks at most
>I don't want to risk large sums of money that would be better placed in index funds
I'm basically transferring a small sum each month into a brokerage account, and then playing around with that.

>> No.29659771

Did you guys just get that cloudflare error too?

>> No.29659789

>>29659559
>5% YoY
you don't understand, stable gains don't have to be 5% a year, they can be +20% a month, and that's without leverage (everything I own except UUU is 3x leverage), just look at how anything in my portfolio performed. And Nasdump underperforms the Dow Jones and S&P 500, and Russell 2000 outperforms them all by a lot, it's been like that for a few months now.

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>>29658999

>> No.29659904

>>29659771
Yep

>> No.29660195

>>29659789
>implying that betting on small caps is better than mega caps even
>even though mega caps literally drive the entire US economy
>based on a comparison only within the past few months
stop it

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29660378

Ze are asking "What ze vuck was zat?"

DOOMP IT

>> No.29660535

>>29658999
How did you come up with these exact stocks tho? All I see is a bunch of random financial, commodity and airlines.
When did you buy in? If less than 3 months ago, you are also just chasing beta.

>> No.29660554

>>29660195
ok, enjoy your TQQQ """gains""" then.
>based on a comparison only within the past few months
if that changes you can change your strategy accordingly, but for now IWM > SPY > QQQ holds true. You have to be flexible to make it, if you tell yourself you won't follow something because in a year or two it might not be the same anymore then you might not do so well.

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All these fags buying meme stocks again, but they won't pump my NOK bags so I can sell.

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>>29653021
Silver is the future, anons.

>> No.29660911

Everything is dumping. What do I buy with $100?

>> No.29661061

>>29660778
Just sell for a loss, man. Only hold stocks if you expect a decent upside. Nokiea is an eternal crab, there is no upside.

>>29660837
Please don't shill that PnD shit in comfy thread. Or at least shill AG or a similar respected company. That statistic is absolutely meaningless without a list. I can imagine the following:
PennyStock1: 0.1x
PennyStock2: 0.8x
PennyStock3: 0.2x
PennyStock4: 10000x
>omg anon the average was 2500x

>> No.29661091

>>29658809
fresh and full of baileys

>> No.29661127

>>29660911
a bus ticket to the poorhouse

>> No.29661155
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>Indices
Comfy

>> No.29661313

>>29661061
that would still be an amazing return if you bought a basket of miners
the question is whether the statistic is actually true and whether it will happen again or it was some unusual circumstance

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>>29660535
I made a screener, only look for stocks I can get on margin, then among those only look for stocks that haven't gone down when everything else has, which narrows it down to a few dozen stocks, then I look at each and pick the ones with nice steady gains. It's not really beta if they don't go down when the rest of the market goes down. Also unlike seemingly most people who seem to want to get married for a stock or ETF for months I have no qualms about quickly dumping something that goes the wrong so I'm flexible and my whole portfolio can change quickly based on whatever changes.

It's true that I haven't used this tactic for very long, only a couple of weeks, so I can't vouch for how well it works long term, but so far it's served me well mostly when everything I used to own right before that has been doing rather poorly.

>> No.29661404

>All LiDAR tech stocks dumping except for LAZR.
Hm.

>> No.29661554

>>29661061
I actually fell for the 5g on the moon shit with Nokia. I'm not down huge so I'll probably just keep waiting it out to see if I can break even, at least.

>> No.29661573

>>29661344
looks like something that would be easy to backtest

>> No.29661644

RUN earnings today, fingers crossed that clown market doesn't dump on good news

>> No.29661862

>>29661573
It's not algorithmic so you'd have your own biases/knowledge of the future to take into account. But I've set my screener to end the fitting period like 2 months earlier and it still showed me many of the same stocks, so I guess trends don't break that easily for some of these stocks.

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>IT AWAKERNS

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>>29661313

It's not unusual, similar things have always happened in miner bull markets. e. g. First Majestic went 150x from '01 to '11, Endeavour Silver went 150x (they used to be penny stocks). I've given the DD about BHS many a time to show how you can objectively prove it would happen to that stock. I've also thoroughly researched every silver penny stock in that list >>29660837 and completely believe in them (BLLG is the best for value after BHS right now).

(I did the BHS DD for a $20 million market cap and it's now nearly double, so you have to halve all the figures now because it's getting towards $40 million):

"1000x for Bayhorse is pretty simple to demonstrate. Don Durrett says that that it is common for miners to trade at a 30x cash-flow valuation in miner bull markets. This can be the case even for one-mine producers. Starcore International Mines, a one-mine producer in Mexico which is similar to Bayhorse, did actually trade at a 30x cash-flow valuation in the ’01 to ’11 miner bull market.

It is generally agreed that Bayhorse can produce 1.3 million silver ounces per annum. At an AISC of $10, this means that Bayhorse could conceivably go 100x at $60 silver. In other words, a $1000 investment would become $100,000.

[1.3 million x 60 – 10 (50) = $65 million cash flow, x 30 = about a $2 billion market cap; present market cap $20 million.)

Extrapolating from here is easy:

At $120 silver, Bayhorse can go 200x.
At $240 silver, Bayhorse can go 400x.
At $480 silver, Bayhorse can go 800x.
At $960 silver, Bayhorse can go 1,600x.
(This last figure means that a $1000 investment would turn into $1.6 million.)

In the '60s silver bull market, Coeur Mining did actually go 1000x when silver merely doubled. And according to ShadowStats, $960 was actually the true inflation-adjusted ATH for silver, in 1980, so it's perfectly possible to see it again."

>> No.29662282

>>29660837
I never understand why people buy silver and BTC stocks when they could just buy silver and BTC. Gold stocks makes a little more sense, since poorfags can't afford to spend $2000 per unit, but silver is cheap and BTC is as cheap as you want it to be.

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>Even oil is down or crabbing
I'm tired of this shit

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>>29662282
BTC is going to a value of precisely zero when the dollar gets dumped and the world goes back to gold.

>> No.29662398

>>29662282
silver premium is over 100% for some coins, even eagles are $40

>> No.29662419
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So did you guys hit your profit target today? Just shy of my usual 1k for power hours but I'm a little nervous in this market so I'm minimizing risk as much as possible.

Were there a definite catalyst I'd be buying like 100 of these but remember to always scalp up at open in the "stonks only go up!" era. Even that JPOW selloff a couple days ago you'd be find if you averaged down during.

I'm gonna go for a run now. Might tune in during EOD to see if I can snag a bounce.

>> No.29662433

>>29661344
Yeah, so you're basically doing the same thing as us (chasing weekly returns) but over a bit longer time frame.
Keep in mind that you will be susceptible to slow downturns, because it will take a lot of time (and lost money) to realize that your strategy doesn't actually work when it stops working.

>> No.29662610

>>29661554
>I'm not down huge so I'll probably just keep waiting it out to see if I can break even, at least.
You shouldn't think like this. Let me paste the pasta:
Holding stocks is the same as buying them every day. If you wouldn't buy it, don't hold it. On the flipside, if it went down, but you know it has a ton of potential and would buy the dip, just keep on holding it. This prevents the "buy high sell low" effect.

90% of the people here think that the as long as they don't go below cost basis, they are OK. This is BS. The cost basis doesn't mean anything. The avg buy price doesn't mean anything. Lost potential profits are lost profits. Opportunity cost is cost.
Looking at cost basis is only good for reevaluating past strategies.

>>29661313
This is true, but the bayhorse shill just shills bayhorse. Which in turn will dilute the shit out of the stock as soon as they hit 0.3

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>>29662389
rad

i want peak pink wojack

>> No.29662709

Is the market going to crash just to JUST GME? It happened before.

>> No.29662763

>>29661127
>EFT initiated
Fine. $5000

>> No.29662802

>>29662709
Seems like it

>> No.29662817

>>29662610
>the bayhorse shill just shills bayhorse.
he gave other miners in this exact thread you sperg

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oh fug

>> No.29662888

>>29662709
it would've a few weeks ago when it went to 400. no reason for that to happen right now. Unless this shit actually hits 400+ again.

>> No.29663057

>>29662709
Well that's part of it but it was always a risk-off kind of mood..

Too bad momentum was overweight in the indexes (nice big brain move adding TSLA, standard and poors) so its gonna cause the appearance of bearish decline.

Which may of course cause people to chimp out and make it real.

>> No.29663106

I recently realized I should be using a screener to search for stocks. Are there any decent ones that are free?

>> No.29663117

>>29661554
yeah, i chased NOK and shit like that before but im not going to fall for it again

>> No.29663172

>>29662888
Don't forget that most of the extremely overleveraged shorts exited around then. And everyone else loaded up on more capital as collateral. The market's going to be fine even if gmeme reaches $800.

The red we're seeing is the red spree caused by bond and treasury shenanigans.

>> No.29663222

>>29662851
>Dollar down biggly
>Indexes also down
I don't like that, why is that?

>> No.29663241

>>29662851
that's bullish for stocks

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hello???

>> No.29663341

>>29662610
Yeah, I agree with that in general and def. believe in opportunity cost. But I don't think NOK is really a meme stock. I think it has some potential but it's going to take a while. I have trouble being patient.
>>29663117
Same, I really just want to dump some money into good safe bets every month and stop watching charts to be totally honest, even if the gains are lower.

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Indices are not comfy anymore

>> No.29663410

>>29663222
risk off

finding inflation hedges that have gone underbought the last year (silver, palladium, etc)

Realistically speaking a stock that wall street hates, and a stock that wall street loves should have the same amount of return if you're investing in inflation.

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>>29662433
>it will take a lot of time (and lost money) to realize that your strategy doesn't actually work when it stops working.
How much time are we talking? Because I sell everything that has a downtrend (I rarely hold anything red for more than two days and usually kick myself for not having even softer hands), and I use my screener several times a day to find new things to buy (or reevaluate what I'm holding).

See today isn't off to a great start, but I'm using it as an opportunity to look for things that aren't dumping, and will probably buy a few soon.

>> No.29663548

>>29662419
Wtf how do you pull off this timing?
How do you know SPY is going to rise .33% in minutes?

>> No.29663559

>>29663341
>I think it has some potential but it's going to take a while
What makes you think this? Nokia is absolutely inferior to the competition (Ericsson and Samsung in Europe). They've been cucked by Microsoft and has been mismanaged since.
Just zoom out and see for yourself what you1re getting into. Nothing changed in the last 4 years.

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>>29663246
hello!!??

>> No.29663727

>>29663410
Are we just expecting inflation in the CPI to materialize in the middle of a quasi-recession across various sectors?

When 12-years of loose money, much of which was during a boom, did fuck all?

>> No.29663748

>>29663533
>selling things that have gone down
>buying things that have not gone down instead
You do see this won't work in a general downtrend, right?

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Lads, if you had about $6M liquid, how would you distribute it today? Looking for a simple, comfy solution. Will a 3-fund Bogleheads meme portfolio do the trick?

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>>29663724
hi

>> No.29663986

>>29663548
Because I've spent the last 2-3 years of my life staring daggers at the S&P500 between 9:00 and 10:00 with 50mg of Adderall coursing through my veins.
As a result I can generally predict SPY movements in short periods. Human brain is great at solving puzzles especially when you have a negative reinforcement (losing $$$) to train you.

I should've held onto my fuckin puts though dang. Market slid when I wasn't looking.

>> No.29664036

>>29663901
Unironically BTC if I already have enough money in savings, and a job, to support me for the next few years.

>> No.29664059

is hyperinflation a meme?

>> No.29664109
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>>29663901
Well, if Fight Club TA Guy is to be believed, you should stay in cash inless the 10yr treasury goes below 1.4%

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i dont feel so good bros, not feeling too comfy over here

>> No.29664363

>>29663748
You don't get it, my last selection criteria before actually looking into the company is if it has a nice steady long term trend. I don't buy things that crab, or things that jumped up by a lot but otherwise weren't going up, I buy things with strong trends, like CMMC.TO for instance (which I bought before the recent pump due to the overall trend). It not having gone down for a few days is just one of the filtering criteria.

Btw judging by my screener finds it seems banking it doing fine today.

>> No.29664368

>>29664059
Holy fuck yes, it's a meme. Securities are in a bizzare, clown market bubble but inflation does not give a shit about that stuff. Inflation is what normal people pay for average living expenses.

The Fed will not do shit unless milk goes over $3 a gallon at WMT (for example).

>> No.29664461

>Norwegian green energy stocks keep dumping for no apparent reason
I don't like this

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>>29653021
Own large amounts of shares in OTC tickers $PVDG, $SANP, and $APTY. Everybody losing money this week but I earned $40k and there are still 2 more trading days. If anybody trades OTC take a look at these.

>> No.29664484

>>29663901
Unironically property, art.

I once saw an old submarine for sale for 5 million. Maybe something like that.

I don't trust the market and I don't trust bitcoin. Actually owning and buying physical stuff debt free should theoretically be a good enough hedge against whatever is coming.

BTC is for chasing crazy gains in a doomsday Weimar Republic/Zimbabwe scenario and def not comfy to sit around thinking
>Wow my investment is doing pretty good because the world is coming to an end.

>> No.29664521

>>29663559
You're probably right, but I'm hoping that their 5G network projects will bring them success.

>> No.29664591

>>29654953
What pennies have you been playing, anon? I'm currently in HCMC for fun.

>> No.29664669

>>29663222
Means its a bear trap IMO
>>29663241
Yeah...but indicates inflation. That means theyre going to pull back the bullrun

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>>29664591
I too am in HCMC. I am also in DPLS and ETFM.

>> No.29664730

>>29664521
> 5G network projects
They don't have any. Only a token one they did. And I think they did that below cost just to have some PR material.
Ericsson absolutely wipes the floor with them.

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>>29664368
I wonder if normie FOMOing into TSLA, BTC aand GME is keeping CPI down because they're losing all their income?

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I've been told if I wanna switch from TD Webbroker, either Questrade or IBKR are good as a leaf.

I can't really tell which is cheaper and better, any thoughts?

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Remember to benchmark against a simple, conservative portfolio of 100% short-dated, OTM calls on RIOT.

>> No.29665099

>>29663901
Some mix of leveraged and unleveraged index covered calls strategy.
SPY, TQQQ, SOXL and selling covered calls on parts of it.
Real estate for inflation hedging. That's the retirement dream basically.

>> No.29665107

>>29653021
boys, havent been on smg for like 3 weeks, are we still buying salmon stocks?

>> No.29665161
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You know how there are axe throwing ranges now?
I wonder when they'll do knife catching?
Millennials seem to enjoy the thrill.

>> No.29665229

>>29663986
Very inspiring anon, I will keep practicing my pattern spotting skills until I feel ready.
Today day trading was NOT a meme.

>> No.29665244

>>29664109
may 2 years ago we were bullish and it was at 2, im not a bigbrain in this area why would it be bad news? does bidet really want a crash to prove trump right?

>> No.29665277

>>29665051
>cryptoshit
>mining farms of all things
kek

>> No.29665320

>>29664591
SANP was amazing last week. DRWN now, they're rumored to be merging with SANP

>> No.29665477

>>29653021
Mfw tech is finally dragging my portfolio down. 2 freaking stocks I bought long term. Yet in 2 weeks or less lost all the gains they accumulated. Not sure but I've noticed stocks seem to have an easier time losing gains at a faster speed than the speed at gaining gains.

>> No.29665503
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29665503

>>29664747
That's hardly fucking anything, considering this has been going on for years.

All the money printing went into assets that rich people own. Wage growth has been shit. Milk doesn't got to $3/gal because bormal folks wouldn't pay that much.

You want inflation? Pass $15 minimum wage. Then we'll see some god-damned inflation. Crash the market, I don't give a shit. It contributes nothing to the economy at large. It never has and never will.

>> No.29665582

>>29663901
1M harvesting theta/vega, 1M bonds (when the time is right), 3M in real estate, .5M gold, the rest id keep liquid or throw into Tbills after things normalize

>> No.29665665

>>29665277
Don't forget the options part. That's essential to riskmaxxing.

>> No.29665674

>>29665161
>GME stock price tracing out the absolute classic PnD graph
Ayaya

>>29665244
Well according to the memelines, Treasuries at 2 now means doom.
I don't think this has to do with anything political.
Hedgefunds don't care about politics. Neither does the Fed.

>> No.29665677

>>29663559
all nokia has to do is re-release the nokia 5210 and make it an easy $500/share

>> No.29665738

>>29665582
>.5M gold
Imagine wasting half a million dollars on shiny rocks.

>> No.29665808

>>29665677
Nokia doesn't make phones anyomre. It's HMD.

>> No.29665838

>>29665677
>classic retro look
>no Chinese spyware apps
>can drop a thousand times without breaking the screen
>probably bulletproof
$500/share is conservative.

>> No.29665948

>>29659181
>It's starting affect my health
I remember when I watched the market every day for 8ish hour. It sucked. Felt like i was a slave. Just started going in heavier and stopped looking as much. Hd i done that earlier id probably have a noticeably higher networth, like 2x its current value at least.

>> No.29666020

>>29665107
I truly believed but I think it's over now
I managed to get out with a profit
https://cathiesark.com/arkg-holdings-of-aqb

>> No.29666055
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29666055

>>29665503
We're just returning to the norm.

WWIII happens and then you're the new boomer.

>> No.29666116

Is there a point in buying an out of the money weekly put with 600% IV even if you expect the stock to drop in a week back to normal levels?

>> No.29666234

>>29666116
Depends on what you think "normal levels" are: https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com/calculator/long-put.html

>> No.29666292

Cup and handle on UVXY??

>> No.29666322

Why is RIOT dumping while MARA isn't?

>> No.29666338

>>29666116
I'd just leverage and short.

>> No.29666384
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29666384

>>29665161
>>29665674
You guys ought to learn the difference between a pnd and shorts covering.
It starts with dropping the retarded assumption that R*ddit can buy billions of dollars in shares in the first ten minutes after Bloomberg Terminals get a news report.

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29666420

>>29666292
>TA on a volatility index

>> No.29666537

Is silver ever truly going to take off or am I retarded holding PSLV and HL?

>> No.29666599
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29666599

What are you buying on today dump anon?, Nasdaq is going all the way down :)

>> No.29666649

>>29666420
I-I'll just keep my stupid to myself.

>> No.29666684

>>29666322
Mean reversion, probably. Compare them to GBTC.

>> No.29666694

>>29666384
The second one probably isn't shorts covering, rather seems like a classic algo P&D if you were watching the order book last night AH like I was up until it reached 200.

Short traders have been covering here and there for weeks.
New short investors had no reason to cover a 15 dollar stock at 40, especially if they'd been shorting since 400-200.
Old shorts already got squoze.

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>>29665051
anon im curious why you chose RIOT over MARA

>> No.29666771

CWSFF is gonna carry me to six figures. I love you shill

>> No.29666843

>>29665674
yeah but i dont get why these memelines say so, rates have been higher during bullish periods. im not sure if they think everyone will dump equity to chase a 2% yield or if the fed will change policy out of nowhere or what.

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29666856

>>29666599
Is it really today's dump if its been mostly red for over a week?

>> No.29666873

ah drats I knew I should've held those dumb puts. I just really don't like hodling.

>sold at 0.77
>currently at 2

>> No.29666879

>>29666384
I'm pretty sure all shorts own LEAP calls with a strike price around $100-$150 so they don't have to care about getting "squeezed".

>> No.29666937

>>29666759
Was tracking BTC more closely when I bought in. Meanwhile BARF & co. didn't have options. I'd say for shares those small, not-yet-listed miners are probably gonna give you more bang for your buck though.

>> No.29666973

Wonder what >>29666666 was?

>> No.29667009

RTX dumping for any reason in particular? I'll buy at 72.

Otherwise shill me some ETFs for long term growth, preferably insulated from tech.

>> No.29667048
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29667048

Getting real tired of this kiked up clown market

>> No.29667072

oh that wasn't very nice.

>> No.29667075

>>29664886
IBKR if under 25
Wealthsimple trade for most Canadian stocks
Questrade is fine but not great

>> No.29667161

>>29667072
Well neither are open borders policies but what're you gonna do?

>> No.29667310

>>29667161
Open borders policy is free market af.
Just gotta get them full visas and paying the same taxes automatically. Then there's very little affect on labor markets.

>> No.29667366

>>29667310
That's the political equivalent of doing TA on a volatility index.

>> No.29667371

>>29666973
Not sure if bakin a new bread or burn everybody ovens
>>29666856
A dip is a dip and i enjoy them dips, that SOXL dip looking really yummy

>> No.29667425
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>>29666694
You're right, except new shorts entered all over the place. I think what happened yesterday was one small cohort of shorters with a basis around $40 getting btfo after seeing their positions crab with high borrow fees for a few weeks.
Funds that shorted at $400 didn't need to cover last night.
A "classic algo pnd" doesn't look like this.
Especially the AH crab-up and the opening gap up followed by dump, that's characteristic of the echo squeezes which is why I posted the Chesapeake chart.
This one is also very illustrative of the AH/opening/echo pattern.
People too desperate to call this a pnd haven't studied squeeze mechanics enough. Mostly because the muh squozin crowd that showed up hasn't studied anything either, you're right not to give them the time of day but the muh all powerful retail-driven pnd crowd is just as wrong.

>> No.29667490

>>29667366
It works eventually.

Borders should be illegal I wanna live in nipland.

>> No.29667582

>>29667310
>Labor markets
It's definitely pro-business for labor markets. Low costs mean better prices for domestic consumers. And since the cheap labor is coming to the US, that means domestic production is up.
That could even be a boon for national security, as a hedge against China et al.

>> No.29667664

>>29667425
It looks different for a normal P&D because crazy redditors are fomoing up the price level because of low float. The AH movement was classic P&D. It happens AH for a reason.

>> No.29667675

>>29660554
What about investing in all 3 of them long term? I suck at investing so I don't have a strategy or anything. I just want to be able to buy a house/apartment before 30. I'm currently 23 and have about 120k, I'm very deep into QQQ and add about 1k per monnth.

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>>29667490
>Borders should be illegal

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>>29667371
But anon, I don't think they're going back up

>> No.29667776

>>29667664
>It looks different for a normal P&D
THIS IS HOW TRUMP CAN STILL WIN

>> No.29667830

>>29666879
>all
N-no anon.
Please don't think I'm trying to say something I'm not.
You can look up daily short volume on fintel, there have been new short (shares) positions every day.
I'm trying to understand the price action yesterday from 3 o'clock onwards.
Try to get the idea of "THE" squeeze out of your head. Individual positions are pressured by price catalysts and we saw the result yesterday, just like we saw a nearly inexplicable 20% moves in November and December.

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>>29667776
>When GME larpers are literally Financial Qanon

Please. This charts looks like Gamestop had a bunch of clinical trials.

>> No.29668048

>>29667664
You going to keep saying this without offering any evidence for it I guess.
Wow it really is amazing how R*ddit can buy several billion dollars of GME in 10 minutes huh?
Especially since they already pumped a trillion dollars into BTC
Deep deep pockets those R*dditors have
...You god damn retard

>> No.29668078

>>29667830
Don't overthink it. It's just a bunch of momentum chasing daytraders and algos. I think it has nothing to do with shorts.
Keep in mind that if a hedgefund buys calls on their shorts, that will show up as a net short on fintel, but a price increase will not affect the hedgefund.

>> No.29668154

>>29660911
Tecs

>> No.29668221
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CALLING ON CLF TRANNY TO POST HIS LOSSES
>CALLING ON CLF TRANNY TO POST HIS LOSSES
CALLING ON CLF TRANNY TO POST HIS LOSSES
>CALLING ON CLF TRANNY TO POST HIS LOSSES
CALLING ON CLF TRANNY TO POST HIS LOSSES

>> No.29668233

>>29664886
I use questrade for its no fees to buy boomer etfs

>> No.29668294

>>29668008
I'm agreeing with you. It's a classic PnD.

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29668413

>10 year treasury almost borke 1.5%
Goddamnit JPow, get back to work.

>> No.29668456

Getting really tired of seeing red here lads. Had my gains YTD wiped out and I think our little bullrun has made me soft.

>> No.29668490

>>29664363
So your general exit signal is when you see the longer term trend has broken. Otherwise, you'll dump it if you see two red days in a row?

>> No.29668500

>>29660911
Is that time again when everything dumps except meme stocks

>> No.29668617

>>29668456
Same. I'm almost at a net loss right now. Turns out I'm not actually a genius and my strategy does not work.

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>>29668221
Unironically feeling a little better about this red day

>> No.29668701
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>>29668078
Call open interest was never high enough for that.
You're the one overthinking it. People shorted at $40, they were safe for a few weeks and then a big catalyst hit.
It's harder to find a short squeeze without echoes, they all have echoes. When a price is inflated by squeeze mechanics alone it's an intelligent move to short it, but people without the margin equity to support it get btfo again and again and again.
You don't have to accept the simple explanation if you don't want. You can keep believing retail and algos are diving off the cliff like lemmings.
I think the simple explanation is the best one.

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29668741

>>29668048
I'm not gonna be able to offer evidence because I'm basing my opinion on a plethora past experience with stuff like this.

And all these explanations that Reddit is coming up wit for why the stock is moving the way that it is, are the same explanations that every 1st year trader arrives at when they don't know how markets or trading work.

The relationship between scalpers, retail, swing traders, and investors is what drives the market.

Not this
>REVERSE SHORT LADDER ATTACK!!!
or
>THE JEWS RIGGED THE GAME!
cope.

Individuals can have very real affect on markets. I've moved the price on stocks with less than 1/1000th of their market cap before.

>> No.29668773

>>29668221
He was such a cocky retard too, then they go and miss earnings.

>> No.29668871

Do I buy this dip, or wait for my transfer to go through and buy the next one bigger?

I'm looking to diversify. Shill me some sector ETFs, or solid blue chips.

>> No.29668990

>>29668701
> You can keep believing retail and algos are diving off the cliff like lemmings.
You keep saying retial while I keep saying professional daytraders. I thik you're missing an entire class of speculators from your mental model. And they do in fact have billions of dollars to work with.

>> No.29669060

>>29668741
You're not arguing with me, you're arguing with some strawman R*dditor who says things I have never said.
Paranoid bullshit about short "attacks" and rigging have nothing to do with my argument.
See >>29668701

>> No.29669063

>>29668221
Didn't that guy have calls at 10?

>> No.29669354

>>29669063
am or pm?

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>>29669060
My biggest problem with thinking its shorts is just how steady and consistent it rose, immediately hit 200 and then stopped dead - bouncing around a bit.

Also
>shorts covering on Wednesday
nigga pls

>> No.29669435

>>29668990
Then I think we have made some progress.
The price movement is magnified by professional speculators. You can call that a pnd if you wish but the phrase is used to describe baseless price action. This price action was not baseless, it was triggered the same way the Chesapeake echoes were triggered.
And then professional pnders hopped on that trigger, if you really insist on calling them that.
I like to use terms that differentiate things when possible and you're throwing a lot of knowledge about price mechanics out the window if you ignore the pressures faced by investors who took new short stock positions in the last few weeks.

>> No.29669558

>DNN
>HCMC
>MJNE

I'm so far down on them and its killing me. I've hit that point of despair where I just don't care what happens to these any more.

>> No.29669762

That discount on NET looks so tempting to me since a couple of days. Anyone else looking at it? It’s probably not the best time for a tech investment, is it?

>> No.29669839

>>29669558
I was able to sell DNN at break even yesterday. HCMC is a longer hold for me. MJNE i got memed as well.

>> No.29669849

>>29669369
>>shorts covering on Wednesday
>nigga pls
Did you think all shorting is puts or something?
Speculators do in fact short shares in (current year).
>your chart
Nov and Dec full of echo squeezes.
It's not a hard concept to grasp. Speculators saw IBIO fall back to $1 and figured yes, we short it now!
Then they got btfo by at least 4 more tiny squeezes on the way down. No? Someone please tell me how and why I'm reading your IBIO chart wrong?

>> No.29669928

what should i buy

>> No.29669952

>>29669435
"professional pnders" and algos out-PnD-ing eachother completely explains the whole situation, no need to mix shorts exiting/covering into it.
This "echoes" description of yours is no better than any other TA handwaving like cup and handle.

>Extremely cheap options primed a gamma squeeze on a week where options expire
>Cohen tweets a fucking emoji
>algos pick up on it, pumping the price (See stock movements every time Musk tweets)
>other algos and humans pick up in momentum and hop into the train
>the whole thing grinds to a halt at an obvious human-made resistance price
>goes back to crabbing
At no point do shorts need to do anything to explain the price.

>> No.29669954

>>29668741
>I've moved the price on stocks with less than 1/1000th of their market cap before.
You and 999 other people

>> No.29669965

Did Bitcoin really lose 2% off the day's high because people cashed out to buy GME?

Or is it speculators that think that what will happen?

Or a mix of both?

Or just a risk off?

Or a mix of the 3?

Who knows?

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>>29669063
yeah but he had ample opportunity to sell for $1M.
We already knew about earnings yesterday too

>> No.29670059

>>29669965
People cashed out of BTC to put it in a safe and steady investment of 10 year treasuries now that they yield 1.5%+ :^)

>> No.29670263

I'll ask again.
>RTX
>Motherfucking RAYTHEON
Is that a tasty dip or a return to the dump?

>> No.29670361

That weird PUBM shill was onto something I guess

>> No.29670378

>>29669849
My IBIO chart has nothing to do with anything I just think its funny.

But no most short swing traders cover midway through Friday. That's why Fridays have a disproportionate amount of bullishness, historically speaking.

It seems weird for a short squeeze to have a slow start and steady build. Covering shorts makes things choppy and happens during periods of higher volume.

You'd need to be pretty dumb to try and slowly close a giant short position on a low float stock in the middle lunch on a Wednesday. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that's just about the thinnest amount of liquidity you can find in any given week.
Makes it perfect for P&D though.

>> No.29670381

>>29663901
I'd buy some shroom stocks, unironically. Shit is gonna moon hard one day.

>> No.29670383

>>29669952
You think the risk department isn't going to make them cut their losses when the stock is up 400% from their entry point?
Shorts covering and more shorts being opened higher up contributed to the volatility, that's just common sense

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>>29670263
>defense stocks
>pic related
Even during "war", believe it or not.

>> No.29670635
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>>29669952
>This "echoes" description of yours is no better than any other TA handwaving
You make no sense, the dynamics of new short positions piling in at $40 for 3 weeks is not that hard to understand, and I didn't invent the concept of a multi-leg squeeze. The only one-and-done squeeze I've ever seen was Volkswagen and that was based on entirely different mechanics.
>Cohen tweets a fucking emoji
>algos pick up on it
Yes, I have to admit this could be a sufficient explanation by itself. Until you look at the speed of the trigger, the exact AH/PM pattern, I think you're missing the full explanation and falling into a trap of blaming actors who are ultimately meaningless in determining prices.
For me this distinction is important because it determines it my exit targets on similar plays. I used this knowledge last month to get out at 20x profit instead of bagholding. Although right now I'm mostly scalping high vola options so it doesn't really matter.
Thanks for the feedback anon.

>> No.29670658

>>29669954
If I sell at a price and there are no other sellers at that price and someone buys that price I have moved the stock.

Say there are 1,000,000 shares outstanding at a list price of $5.00 and I sold a single share for $0.01 higher. I have increased the market cap by 10,000.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketcapitalization.asp

>> No.29670671

>>29670383
They. Have. Calls at $120 strike price they bought for less than $1.
How hard is this to understand, Jesus fucking Christ.

>> No.29670754

>>29670635
That's a ton of words to say "I got lucky", but okay.

>> No.29670910

>>29670465
Zoom out. I think it's going back to 72. At least 74.

If not that, then what thoughts do you have on bank stock? JPM looks like it should go back to 140 in a month.
Or perhaps oil stock? Telecom? Retail? ETFs?

Anything that's not fucking GME. Talk about anything that's not that.

>> No.29670931

>>29663901
I'd just put it into dividend stocks with good fundamentals and never worry about money again.
You need like 500k invested (optimized ofc) to make around $2500-$3000 per month in dividends.

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Argh, I thought today would be a turnaround.

>> No.29670982

Spoonfeed me, is Suncor a meme or should I buy and hold

>> No.29671016

>>29663533
Would you say your strategy is roughly equivalent to finding high sharpe ratio stocks?

>> No.29671071

Its really fun watching GME people frantically try to
>BUY THE DIP!

>> No.29671111

>>29670378
I'm obviously not talking about one giant put position being unwound.
When your hedge fund opens a momentum based short stock position that crabs for 2 weeks, positive catalysts make you run for the exit.
This isn't a theory, it's the objectively known result of dozens of historical multi-leg squeezes.
You can't understand a simple illustration with a ticker of your own choosing?
Speculators saw IBIO fall back to $1 and figured yes, we short it now.
Then they got btfo by at least 4 more tiny squeezes on the way down.
There is no better explanation for what happened to IBIO after "the" squeeze than new short positions getting btfo in a smaller way.

>> No.29671205

>>29670754
>"I got lucky"
Cope, nigger

>> No.29671245

Which one of you guys stole Lady Gagas dogs? That was a pretty good investment, 500k and no questions aksed

>> No.29671411

A gallon of milk in my state is already 2.95
\Hyperinflation may not be a meme

>> No.29671427

>>29671245
>Stealing dogs from a dog.
Woof.

>> No.29671504
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29671504

I'm betting on an ascending wedge.

>>29671111
Agree to disagree. I really doubt any hedge fund would allow their trading desk to go near GME with a 10 ft poll right now.

They're not degenerate gamblers like us. They can find profit elsewhere.

>> No.29671528

>>29670982
Ask yourself: Will the OPEC let oil prices be this high for long enough to restart American shale oil production? Or will they have these prices for long enough to get a shitton of money for their COVID relief and then open supply up again crashing oil prices down to $20 and let the USA producers eat shit?

>> No.29671601

>>29658809
My fiance spent the night which meant I spent the night not sleeping
Feel like fucking shit
Called off work
Got food delivered
Waiting for gme to spike
So many mistakes

>> No.29671729
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>>29671411
>already 2.95
>hyperinflation
>hyper
Fine, everybody's a Texan. Change planes in Dallas, you're a Texan.

>> No.29671836

What do I buy today?

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29671894

>>29671729
I know the dollar amount is correct, but do they really have rocks on their currency?

>> No.29671927

>>29671729
someone said hyperinflation wont happen until milk is above 3 a gallon

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Post layouts

>> No.29672075

>>29671894
They didn't have any historical figures worth celebrating.

>> No.29672108
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29672108

>>29671894
It's a celebration of the ancient cultural expertise in cairn building. Amazing human accomplishment!
No wait that's Scotland, these are just natural geological features.

>> No.29672225

>>29671601
Wtf, you are engaged and not living together already? That's asking for trouble.

>> No.29672374

buyable moment right here

>> No.29672407

>>29671601
haha david ramsey would not be proud

>> No.29672573

>>29671729
i have two of these notes.
>one hundred billion and 50 billion i think they are

>> No.29672592
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29672592

Indices erasing everything we did yesterday, there's so much fear in the markets

>> No.29672618

>>29672407
David Ramsey is a mean cook but cooks a good steak.

>> No.29672768

>Selling digital art for millions
Reminds me of when the Russian mob was using TF2 hats to launder money

>> No.29672798
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>>29672374
Good to know I gained fuck all buying earlier this week. Enjoy the second dip. In b4 doomposting

>> No.29672815

THE BUBBLE IS POPPING

>> No.29672820

>>29671601
Why didn't you sleep anon
Did she bring a big jigsaw or something

>> No.29672853

>>29672618
>steak
Not while you've got a mortgage to pay off, buster!

>> No.29672896

>>29671894
ITS THEIR NATIONAL CUISINE BIGOT

>> No.29672976

S-SOXL?

>> No.29672983

comfy threads moving way faster the past couple days, too bad

>> No.29673036

>>29672798
I bought the "dip" last friday, and then yesterday.
But it looks like it's a dip that's just gonna keep on dipping.
I thought the TSLA bounce on Tuesday was the bottom.
It was like "Aight guys, not THAT low tho"

>> No.29673060

>>29670671
If they bought calls it should be visible on their 13F

>> No.29673106

Fuck this gay nigger Biden market guys. Honestly thinking of selling it all until the next president. Didn’t realize a dark winter was a promise and not a warning

>> No.29673180

>>29673060
How often do they have to create that report tho?

>> No.29673241

>>29672798
I bought strangles because UVXY looks like its about to take off.
And if it doesn't we'll rebound and I'll breakeven with call side.

>> No.29673260

>>29668617
So that's why you keep trying to convince everyone their strategies do not work? If you don't think it's possible to beat the market then what are you doing here

>> No.29673314

>>29672225
>engaged and not living together already?
Duh, were moving in after the marriage. That's just how is done.

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>>29673106

>> No.29673411

>>29672820
My cock kept getting stuck in the crack of her round ass

>> No.29673412

>>29673060
Call open interest was never sufficient.
It's a theory someone invented because it sounds reasonable to think "hedge" funds know how to "hedge" but actually they're a bunch of coke addled retards who never cover their asses until it's too late

>> No.29673430

>>29673327
Hahaha it’s okay stocks are going down because it’s owning the chuds right? Post your short positions nigger

>> No.29673491

>>29673106
Ha. They're still scrambling around to decide whether or not they should just deepfake the State of the Union Address.

>> No.29673530

>>29673180
Quarterly
Melvin at least didn't have calls. They had puts and possibly shorts.

>> No.29673609

>>29662301
Same. Not in oil just go up jeeez. Sto witht he crabbing especially when it crabbed for month prior before finally getting pumped. Sometimes these no risky ppl lays piss me off when the market delays pumping them even if im walking away with a gain

>> No.29673744

>>29673260
Nah, I'm asking people to actually convince me that their strategies work, because most people's here just doesn't, and they just believe in nonsense. Genius in the bullmarket and things. I am looking for good strategies, but 90% of posts here is BS.

Me failing too is beside that point.

>>29673530
Melvin was supremely incompetent in their risk management tho.

>> No.29673757

Lets try 380 for SPY.

That's be cool if it broke to 370 tho.

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>>29671991
I only trade M/W/F so on the sidelines today.

>> No.29673911

>>29662419
So do you even have a job or hust trade for like an hour a day? What's your average or median weekly "pay". Curious as I wish I was good at this to never work again but Im only good at swing trading. Day trading btfos me and this looks like id get btfod harder.

>> No.29673969

>>29673744
The only way to know if a trader or a strategy makes money is looking at their equity curve
If the traders on here have been trading for more than a year with hundreds of trades and they have great MAR ratio then I'd say they're profitable

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>>29673327

>> No.29674039

Bought some C. Time to find out if that Twitter schizoid can pick stocks as well as he can complain about the Fed.

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>>29673971
>right can't meme

>> No.29674224

>>29674039
C is a good pick. I heard they're still under fair value by around 20%.

>> No.29674243

>>29673911
You're reading too much into it. If he posted that trade here it's because it was exceptionally good even for him. Anyone can make one good call like that per week just by flipping a coin. It's just that most times you'll be wrong.
It's much more impressive when somebody makes a few good calls in a row in real time.

>> No.29674302

>>29673969
You could achieve a pretty great curve with 100% URTY, but that does not mean that that strategy makes sense going forward.

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>>29674168
this isnt speddit, noone cares.
>fragile spedditor projects as it strikes you

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can we go back to comfy posting instead of tribal red vs blue posting

>> No.29674418

>>29674302
But did you?

>> No.29674431

>>29671927
Investing in COW right now , where do you live at? Where I am from the liter of cardboard packed milk is at 1.05

Bought the SU absolute dip

>> No.29674448

>>29673911
I just trade for an hr a day usually. I never hold anything longer than half an hour.

I try to hit anywhere between 5-10k a week. Back in November I flew way too close to the sun and was making like 20-50k a day. I'd gotten cocky after I had called the direction around 55 times in a row.

On the 56th I lost 350k lmao. Got the yips and lost half my income made the last year in a one week span.

I had to take a break and when I reentered I scaled back risk to acceptable levels.

>> No.29674475

>>29674388
This. Fuck off to /smg/ if you guys are going to be faggots

>> No.29674490

NEW THREAD

>>29673762
>>29673762
>>29673762

NEW THREAD

>> No.29674565

>>29674490
Fuck you

>> No.29674572

>>29674388
COMFFFYYYYY DUUUUDE shut the FUCK up you stupid retard stop using that fucking dumb word, god I hope the only people who use that word are ESL fuckwits shut up. That's it, I'm never using the internet ever again none of you are useful to my goals.

>> No.29674573

sell INTC for more ACEV, y/n? this dip is looking mighty tempting
>>29674490
fuck off

>> No.29674581

>>29674224
I saw that, too. I also saw how they're getting into blockchain, along with JPM.

>> No.29674619

>>29674418
No, but does that matter? Or that makes me ineligible to challenge other people's strategies?

>> No.29674635

>>29674388
No, he has a whole folder like that and will devolve into unironic only pretending to be retarded posting if you push him

>> No.29674693

>>29674448
Fucking hell, anon. What's your maximum risk per trade right now? and what was it when you lost 350k?

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>>29674565
>>29674573
>they don't know

>>29674490
Nice, thanks for baking.

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>>29674448

>> No.29674838

I knew I shouldn't have bought BFARF yesterday. I made mistakes buying SOXL this morning, and now the lack of liquidity is killing me

>> No.29674875

>>29674431
I made the comment about $3 milk. Point being, I've never seen it get close to that. I've lived in the Midwest and I think it was at $1.50 tops out there a few years back.

>> No.29674930

>>29674572
Anon, do you know what thread you're in?

>> No.29675045

>>29674702
You can spot the people that are new to these threads a mile away

ACTUALLY NEW BREAD BAKED
>>29673762
>>29673762
>>29673762

>> No.29675142

>>29674693
Well I think when I lost 350k I was doing about 1000-1500 ITM SPY contracts (around $100-200 a piece) per trade.

Now I do about about 30-40.

>> No.29675144

>>29674572
>I'm never using the internet ever again none of you are useful to my goals.
Based Neo-Luddite

>> No.29675163

>>29675045
THE FRESHEST OF BREAD

>> No.29675234

>>29675045
thanks bro

>> No.29675272

>>29663901
If I had $6m the way I'd distribute it would be dependent on strategy

>active investing
Stocks I personally believe will not only go up short term and long term but go up hard as well. Swing trading is the goal.

>passive investing
Divys, I like the REIT divys as they seem to have high divys compared to other divy stocks on a per dollar basis but id spread it between the two reits and non reits. Next would be ETFs a mixture of stuff I like eg safe and reliable alongside sectors i trust long term. No need for big divys on ETFs as they are a long term hold to build wealth off value rather than passive income to pay for stuff like the divy stocks. Finally like above, stocks that will go up long term but just hold rather than short term trading and no need for a hard jump in value short term.

>gold
Yes just in case the dollar collapses. Just a precaution. Amount is up to you just dont go wild lol

Also Id still keep at lesst $1.5m in cash, in banks obviously

>> No.29675308

What if those TA monkeys that said we're gonna crash to march lows were right?

>> No.29675437

>>29675308
that would great, March was peak comfy

>> No.29675440

>>29675308
I dunno. What if those Christcucks that keep saying the world will end in 20XX are right?

>> No.29675460

>>29674619
URTY returns aren't even that impressive, in 1 year it has gone 50% with a very bumpy curve because the 1 year period still includes the march dip. It'll look much better in a few months for sure if you only look at 1 year out.
It's easy to look at a chart of a particular asset and say "wow look at how much money you would've made buying this thing" but the chances of picking that one thing out of everything else with 100% of your equity and holding it for a whole year are extremely slim.
Of course risk assessment of a strategy is broader than just the equity curve but that's a start. I'm sure Lehman had great returns up to 2008.
But it's not possible to know whether any trader here has a profitable strategy unless they're doing wildly stupid shit like buying the meme stock of the month with leverage and claiming to make 300% a week or some simplistic MA crossover TA strategy.

>> No.29675773

Anyone else here getting fucked by GNOG? Long term the stock is good obviously but it’s pissing me off watching it drop and drop

>> No.29675867

>>29665503
>>29664368
Agree with everything, but inflation (real, cost of living inflation) is happening due in part to a labor shortage increasing the cost to hire, new fossil fuel regulations raising gas prices, and commodity supply issues. Just look at steel futures. Real companies have to pay those prices. Domestic freight costs have surged too. And no one wants to work because they're gotten used to being unemployed for months and living off the teet of the government. The costs for my company have increased dramatically in the last 3-4 months. It's like nothing we've ever seen before. We don't serve consumers, but those costs will be passed onto our customers that do.
It doesn't really affect our company or our customers. We aren't in financial straits or anything. We just roll with the punches and continue doing business, but it will affect consumers.
Don't look at milk to track inflation. Milk is a classic loss leader at grocery stores. Look at consumer goods and meat prices.

>> No.29675879

Darn. Could have saved a few pennies on C if I kept holding out for 68 flat.

Are we gonna see a dump-to-the-close kinda day?

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This is nice, but it's not making me feel good about the rest of my damn portfolio, which is blood red

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>>29675890
>Calls on percent-weighted short ETF

Very punk. Welcome to the dangerzone.

>> No.29676165

>>29675773
why would you buy before march 8?
although thanks for the find, I'll pick some up after then

>> No.29676189

>>29676098
I was talking about a big correction at work so I figured I'd put my money where my mouth is. And I was right! Not that it makes me feel good.

>> No.29676579

Shill me index funds. Why wouldn't I have $100,000 in Microsoft instead?

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>> No.29676646

>>29673430
>>>/pol/

we don't want retards who don't understand economics here

>> No.29676737

why are all of my glorious oil stocks down

>> No.29676744

>>29675890
I have a TSLA put, and it basically pulled me up from -5% to 0%.
Then on the next day it pulled me down from +5% to 0%.
It giveth and it taketh away. And you can never know when to sell.

>> No.29676809

>>29675308
Major institutions hedging against a collapse, taking out crash insurance and shit.. probably nothing, line goes up, etc etc. The people claiming that the market will just keep blasting are dumbasses, it might not happen now either, we might bounce again and make a new high, but eventually we're gonna test lower and as an investor you should be ready for that. Indices blasting 80-100% in less than a year is not normal in any way and there will be a correction to test if there's enough bulls to sustain the value at these highs

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>>29676737
Don't think about it. Get back in 2 months and decide if you want to cash out profits. Whole market is red today, 10y yield is high as fuck. People panic and sell off. If anything, it's good day for increasing position in stocks that are solid today

>> No.29676943

>>29676925

>> No.29676973

the GME hodlers are laughing at us...

>> No.29677011

>>29676646
You forgot to attach an image showing your profits from your short positions I will give you this second chance to post it before calling you an ultra double nigger

>> No.29677049

Textbook definition examples of dead cat bounces all day long.

>> No.29677054

>>29676973
We laughed at them a week ago. And we will laugh at them next week.
It is how it is.

>> No.29677257

>>29663901
In addition to an emergency fund of $50K-100K
>20% Land
>20% Precious Metals
>20% T-Bills/Bonds
>10% Divvie Shares
>10% VTI
>10% Retail Franchises (i.e. McDonald's or w/e)
>10% Semi-Pro and AA Sport Teams

>> No.29677287

>>29677011
I don't hold short positions I'm a value investor you subhuman fuck

>> No.29677358

>>29675867
I use milk as my go-to example of the CPI, mainly because I take more note of that than the price of bread and eggs.

I don't see how FF regs would kick in now after 4 years suddenly, and this country's welfare system is a pathetic joke, but those are both issues better left for people with time to waste arguing.

Pandemic hit the lines for steel, meat, etc. But most of that sector is coming back faster than, say, travel. Plenty of folks are out of work still, so consumers have less money.
US economy is largely service sector, so these factors seem to balance out.

As a footnote, the CPI report this month said +1.4% annual for the 12 months ending in January 2021. Energy actually fell by 3.6%, and I'm not entirely sure what to make of that.

>> No.29677368

>>29663901
>>29677257
Ah, also art.

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>> No.29677386

I see you fucking retards are still the gayest thread on 4channel.
Keep it up, maybe someday you'll have enough money to buy a life.

>> No.29677851

>>29677368
Best place(s) to find art at a good value? Galleries seem like the most expensive option.

>> No.29677930

DOES A DEAD VIDEOGAME STORE CHAIN REALLY CONTROL WHERE THE WHOLE FUCKING STOCK MARKET GOES NOW

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Holy fuck the VIX Jesus christ.
Also I got to love how there was an anon that predicted the market dump due to the increased traffic on /biz/

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>>29677851
Sotheby's is the global leader is art auctions, art is a hedge against inflation - just like precious metals. Pic rel sold for 800,000 Euros.

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2021/unwrapped-the-hidden-world-of-christo-and-jeanne-claude/round-bar-of-wood-a-00102030

>> No.29678182

>>29678081
Volatility futures still down though

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>>29677930
yeah

>> No.29678270

>>29678081
Someone said yesterday
>I'm shorting UVXY because it either goes to 0 or the market crashes and I kill myself.

There were so many anons shorting uvxy the last couple days because of how predictable it was being

>> No.29678276

>>29678167
80,000+ Euros*

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>>29678270
heh i was the anon that bought 1000 shares on accident my fuckin sides