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Manipulation Edition

>Why Gold?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3S4rl6ehiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gksenA5Al_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI7NnOg2rxo

>Bullion dealers
https://jmbullion.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://boldpreciousmetals.com/
https>://bgasc.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://goldenstatemint.com/
https://silvertowne.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://sprottmoney.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://silvergoldbull.com/
https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/
r/pmsforsale

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)

>News
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

EU/ENGLAND sources
https://www.chards.co.uk/ [Much cheaper than BullionByPost]
https://goldprice.eu5.net/ [Website to compare gold prices for UK]

Russian/European coins
https://oldsilver.ru/

Relevant information regarding mining companies
https://pastebin.pl/view/fddd4572

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Repo market is starting to look like 2019
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/historic-repo-market-insanity-10y-treasury-trades-4-ahead-monster-short-squeeze

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>> No.30176531

Let's see Paul Allen's stack

>> No.30176547

/pmg/? More like noglover general

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STAND TALL GOLDFAGS, TODAY WE MAYBE BE AAAAAAAAAAA

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Fractional edition

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Posting stack

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>>30176365
Waifus

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BUT TOMORROW WE SHALL BE OOOOOOOOOO

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Is this a double top?

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PMG's opinion on segregated vault storage? Recommendations?

>> No.30176644

Bought a troy ounce of gold at 2370 AUD. Bad or worse?

>> No.30176667

>>30176447
>https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/historic-repo-market-insanity-10y-treasury-trades-4-ahead-monster-short-squeeze
Is this bullish for silver? Should I get into repo work?

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>>30176431
>Bros I got a 1965 Kennedy in my 90% bag. I'm new to stacking but isn't that the first year they came down to 40%? Wat do

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>>30176531
*inhales*
look at that subtle off white silver tube.
the tasteful thickness of it.
...
oh my god. it even has a 'fuck chainlink'

>> No.30176770

>>30176644
Was it a perth mint bar?

>> No.30176801

>>30176636
PMG recommends you store your PMs at your residence

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>>30176365
gotta love that pic

>>30176575
did someone say FRACTIONAL EDITION??

>> No.30176843

>>30176770
Bullion coin, only type in stock.

>> No.30176863

>>30176447
Bayhorse-sama please go back down to 0.13 ty.

>> No.30176865

>>30176618
Prob. Cheapies inc anyway

>> No.30176899

>>30176618
Why does it matter, you look to trade back for fiat?

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>>30176365
Perfect chance to upload - got three things I was waiting on: 1) silver bars 2) silver rounds 3) AMD 3950x.

Oh - and a set of the Illuminati Card Game (had to see for myself).

>> No.30176972

>>30176843
Perth Mint is always good, you rarely come across cheaper in my experience. Where you based mate?

>> No.30176976

>Once space mining kicks off your shiny metal rocks will be worthless. Wood is more rare than gold in the galaxy. Think about this.

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>>30176722
That's a 40% kennedy for sure.
>>30176810
They are growing on me.
>>30176843
That's good I am scared shitless of every perth bar being fake but no idea how your price compares to burger.

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Anons, where are there some 2 Rand coins in stock that take crypto?

>> No.30177013

>>30176801
That's fine up to a point. Beyond that there's an increasing need for security.

>> No.30177015

>>30176976
>Once

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>> No.30177023

Anyone with experience using depositories? I know there was an interview somewhere that it was advised to make sure the depository is private and does not also deal bullion. I lik ethe Texas Depository, but I have 0 experience. The stack on hand is getting large compared to my net worth and cashflow

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>>30176636
If you don't hold it you don't own it.

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Checked the marks and I’m fairly certain they are real, any other heirloom chads here?

>> No.30177077

>>30177013
hello likeminded friend. I'll see if I can find that video reference and share...

>> No.30177080

>>30176976
Joke's on you, I've got an amateur interest in spaceflight anyways.

I'm going to mine gold and silver and cause a Ming-level silver inflation event.

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>>30177061
>fairly certain
ngmi

>> No.30177134

>>30175377
I’ve got Utah’s and Nevada’s on the way, No 50s tho because there were none in stock.

I’m gonna see if my mine will let me go to the refinery to watch the gold being poured, but someone mentioned you gotta have a background check and shit to even go in the building so idk.

>> No.30177138

Bought the GPL dip ahead of earnings tomorrow along with some FFMG.

>> No.30177148

Gold backed common currency between Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and China!

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>>30177061
I've got some heirlooms.
The whole reason I stack metal is to give my children nice generational wealth.
For the moment I don't have crazy amounts of sterling as it's quite space inefficient.

>> No.30177171

>>30176996
Goldeneagle

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>>30176729
Holy shit Anon. You went in balls deep and, shoved your fist in, and stuck her head in the toilet for being such a dirty bitch.

Well done.

>> No.30177211

>>30177077
Thanks anon I would like to see it

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>>30176899
No but I do like buying it at good prices.

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>>30177171
Hey thanks. You rock.

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>>30177138
Good job fren, I doubled down on my options position for them today.

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>>30176987
Yeah finding out that they go for their (lowest) premium-included price was definitely a solidifying factor (although I purchased them on novelty mostly a few hours before I found that out)
1GB ~= $3.5, not $1.7
It kind of feels like how *bitcoin* felt in ~2010, except it's being accepted by (local) businesses 100x faster
Plus who can say no to this cutie? (50GB is also pretty qt ngl)

>> No.30177449

>>30177042
There's no such thing as zero risk, even if you hold it.

>> No.30177482

Can anyone tell me why gold is plummeting non stop ? Its getting really bad now. Stacked it last year based on sound explanations in this thread now just watching it go down the toilet daily at a time when it should really be going up all things considered

>> No.30177490

>>30176987
Wwyd? Ordered from jm bullion at the start of the craze, 1/29. $20fv 90% and 2 ASEs. It didn't ship til 2/15 and then got lost for 11 days where tracking didn't update. Finally arrived yesterday, and 1 of my 40 half-dollars is 40% instead of 90%... Is it always this much of a pain in the ass to get physical silver? Shit
>>30176987

>> No.30177519

>>30177482
price drop to get people to sell and buy treasury bonds instead

>> No.30177559

>>30176921
3) AMD 3950x.
Im sorry what?

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Pure autism at this point.

I wonder if I'm comparing apples to oranges here. Should I compare prices from 1986 to the prices in 1994 after the currency change to understand whether gold appreciated in real value or not? It was stronger in the 80s than in the 90s so some of those ratios may be fucked due to that.

>> No.30177595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKcX4eNpy24

Handy smelting / processing vid for anyone interested.

>> No.30177614

>>30177171
Never even knew that these were so low of a premium or that low weight. I really want to get one and there's only ten left.

>> No.30177629

>>30177519
So its purely a Rothschilds and co psyop? If so they can do this all day for a long as it takes.. Could go to $30 a gram for all they care

>> No.30177664

Idk if this is a stupid question but does anyone know why a silver dollar contains more silver then say two half dollars?

>> No.30177761

>>30177614
They're essentially sovereigns made in South Africa with a different design.

>> No.30177774

>>30176921
Nice gold stack anon.

>> No.30177797

what percent does gold/silver represent compared to your normie savings/retirement/401k etc? please only answer if you have a job and have been employed for more than a year or two.

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>>30176447
is this good for gold and silver?

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>>30177629
>So its purely a Rothschilds and co psyop? I
basically

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>>30177797
Stonks: 80%
401k: 14%
PM: 6%

>> No.30177897

Low gas fee now, time grab more $ENQ
Look at this dudes, you will see that this ecosystem is new stage in crypto
smartphone dapps and mining
I am safe now with this system, tards wouldn’t get how it is working

>> No.30177905

>>30176365
it's not manipulated. people just don't want to own the most shitted on asset worldwide except illuminati Qanon fags on /biz/

>> No.30177908

>>30177629
>30 a gram
Not in the past 10 years

>> No.30177945

>>30177863
So could someone redpill me on treasury bonds? Why have they become so attractive now, is their attempt to "fix the economy"

>> No.30177976

>>30177664
How bro? They all are 12.5 gram half dollar to 26.73 gram silver dollar. Pretty close imo.

>> No.30178005

>>30176921
hows does it feel to be among the 1%er of gold holders

>> No.30178018

>>30177482
That, and bitcoin is being shilled as a "digital gold" store of value, by big guns on twatter and yt, so a huge chunk of money flower into bitcoin that otherwise should have gone into PMs.

>> No.30178029

>>30177945
JUDEA anon. The only thing that matters at this point is the White Race not only surviving but, destroying everyone else again.

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>>30177945
Who says they're attractive?

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>>30178029
Based.

>> No.30178112

>>30178069
Bondagefags?

>> No.30178118

>>30177945
They haven't become attractive per se. No one wants to buy them at print price. Bond yields work the other way around, the lower the price the higher the yield. Fed has been stepping in as soon as the yield passes 1.5.

>> No.30178125

>>30178029
Sorry, but much as I agree I don't get how that relates to my question

>> No.30178204

>>30177490
contact CS. you get what you pay for, but in this case you didn't
>Is it always this much of a pain in the ass
a local coin shop in the way to go. cash in metal out

>> No.30178241

>>30178118
Gotcha. So, broadly speaking, taking everything into account, gold "should" theoretically bounce back say by the end of the year.

>> No.30178245

>>30176582
Digging the Wilson, how much did it cost you?

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>>30177945
Bond yields are increasing because no one is buying them. Well, no one but the Federal Reserve. As they increase, people will start moving into them because they are safer than stocks. It is also seen as a sign that the economy is in recovery, which, of course, it isn't. Short term, PMs will dip. Long term we'll see the one of two things:

1) Bond yields continue to increase which will cause a deflationary crash in the stock market. Worse than The Great Depression. This will be followed by hyperinflation after the government implements de facto UBI.

2) The Fed implements yield curve controls, buying up more and more bonds itself. This signals to the world that The Fed has lost control entirely over the economic situation, and that people should be looking elsewhere for a world reserve currency.

In short: the US and USD is beyond fucked. PMs will win out big in the coming years, so just hold.

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>>30177211
looks like it was an excerpt i incorrectly remembered from Andy Schectman https://youtu.be/BC1CWenLJc4?t=1764
I'll have to keep digging. Anons were interested in the Texas Depository, but I'm making sure to do my DD

>> No.30178295

>>30177797
>>30177876
>>30178218
i am at 6% PM and this makes me feel better

>> No.30178296

>>30177976
Well using a site like https://www.coinflation.com/coins/silver_coin_calculator.html
Morgan dollar = 0.7735 ozt
2 Half dollars = 0.7234 ozt
It is close but that variance in large quantities means a whole lot of silver.
If a dollar is defined as 0.7735 ounces of silver, why couldn't they make the smaller denominations equal to that instead of some odd amount?

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>>30177945
they're hardly attractive but boomers and big corps want some level of low-risk assets. Even at 1.4% or whatever they are, they still represent a small return on investment with minimal risk unless the US government defaults. What's actually happening in reality is that the Federal Reserve is 'buying' (aka creating more money out of thin air) government debt in order to push down bond yields, which in turn pushes boomers and investors into more risky assets like stocks and securities. It's only kinda successful because everyone sees it for what it is and have already priced in the Fed's purchases at this point, hence why yields keep creeping up whenever the Fed tries to push them down. It also takes more and larger amounts of dollar creation for lesser improvement the more it is done, i.e. why smart investors like Burry are concerned about inflation.

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>>30178005
Not him, but also think I'm in the top 1%

Terrifying. Basically shorting Western civilization while still living here. We're in for rough times.

>>30177945
My theory is that the powers that be allowed the Treasury bonds to rise just enough to cause some technical damage to Gold primarily and Silver secondarily. I expect the Fed to already be implementing YCC, and if not they will very soon.

Gold is now "no longer in a bull market" according to TAfaggots who ignore anything that's not lines on a chart, and thus they trade accordingly. Meanwhile, bonds going up means insolvency for the US Government and knowing this, you bet your ass they won't let it stand.

Short of it is - they're playing jewish tricks to damage Gold's roll to make it less appealing as a safe hedge against what's coming and to force money back into risk assets to avoid stocks trading sideways.

>> No.30178358

>>30178241
Price discovery is essentially dead and market manipulation is so fucking rampant, so who know when. I'd say it'll go down a bit more but eventually pass past ATH. I'll keep DCA as it keeps dropping.

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>>30178103
Yes Brother. GTKRWN
>>30178125
Anything with the word "government" attached to it should be immediately discarded into the aborted nigger fetus bin, if that helps you any.

>> No.30178428

I bought two a silver mouse and a silver ox coin from Perth mint as lucky charms, I want to lick the mouse coin as it's my zodiac. Is this bad for my health?

>> No.30178460

This thread has been flagged as unprofitable.

>> No.30178463

>>30178323
can someone explain to an idiot what bonds rise/yield mean
and this is coming from someone whose 401k is 1/3 bonds

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>>30177905
Yeah, central banks hate gold and that's why they've been steadily getting rid of it since 2008!

>> No.30178476

Do you get your premium back when you sell fractional gold?

>> No.30178490

>>30178358
>>30178323
>>30178320
>>30178283
Really appreciate the input folks. Cleared a lot of questions up.

>> No.30178491

reckted, buy the dip retard or die poor
this shillers try to scam you with trash token
don’t believe in this shit, wanna see the best staking gem?
follow Jul with dual platform on BSC
>2000$ already here

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>>30178460
We don't buy PMs to gain value but to preserve it.
Would you comment the same retarded shit in a tether thread?

>> No.30178533

Oh, you have 1 ounce on you and you feel like a real man?

You ever been in a grapple fight with a man and held him down and shoved silver bars in his ass faggot? Yeah, when you get him on the ground and you both fight for your life and you're exhausted but he gives out the last minute and then you shove a bar of silver up his ass and start jacking him off? Yeah faggot. You'll never be the man that I am.

What was that you fucking said? You think you're fucking tough? You know nothing. I have THOUSANDS of ounces of silver. More than you will ever have. I have so much silver I leave it out on the fucking table in plain sight because I'm not scared at all anybody is gonna come and take it because I will fuck them up. I'm a BEAST of a man. Anyone who comes in my house is dead. I rub my balls on silver. I sit there at home and shove bars up my ass. You think you're tough? Yeah, you'll never experience that poor fag. Shoving silver balls up your hairy manly ass and then cumming on another bar of silver. Then I make my wife clean it up with her tongue while I'm done and I rub gold coins on her tits and Jack off of them and cum on them too. My house that I paid for in cash is just full of precious metals and CUM. Just oozing the essence of a man and success.... Something you will NEVER have.

>> No.30178547

>checked alts fell red
>prepare to buy low
>add extra cash
>buy fucking shitcoin
>weep everywhere that he was fucked lol

I can't see this anymore, lil boy look at Enecuum, stop going into this shitmodel. Check nodes, mining other features. have earnings without risk

>> No.30178574

>>30178491
holy crow the bots are out tonight.

>> No.30178611

>30178547
Reset your router or use a vpn bot.

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>>30178295
I think 10% is about as high as I'm willing to go.

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>>30178245
It's largely taking away time from any of the other guns I had before, it would cost 120oz silver at the current spot price.

>> No.30178624

>>30178476
only if you are selling to another end user
a pawn shop buying at spot will always pay spot (at most)

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>>30177586
I respect your autismo, I often think about prices across different time periods. Found some old French copper coins and was wondering how much that would have bought back then, and it led me down a rabbit hole where I found this. https://www.daumier.org/biography/cost-of-living-in-daumiers-time/
>>30178323
Holo anon, I finished season 1 and now I'm onto season 2. The more I watch the more I wish I could travel and use silver coins as God intended.

>> No.30178708

>>30178617
i agree, just trying to decide if i want to buy more now (omg the end is near) or leave room in that sub-10% to buy cheapies later

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>>30178490
Bonds are IOUs from the government. You give the government money in exchange for a bond. That bond is paid back to you after an allotted time (5, 10, 30-year bonds, etc) with interest set at the time of purchase (yield). It is seen by investors as a near riskless asset because the USG defaulting on its debts is (was?) unfathomable. When the yields get high enough, people move their assets from the stock market (risky) to bonds (not risky).

Also, there are laws that require retirement funds and banks to own a certain amount of US bonds. It's retarded.

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>>30177797
PMs: 36.3%
Fiat: 22.7%
Stocks: 15.1%
Firearms & Ammuntion:15.1%
Roth 401k: 9.4%
IRA: 1.4%

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forgot to post stack; too excited for my goldbacks to come in

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Based

>> No.30178844

>>30178069
Bonus points for that fat geode shard

>> No.30178848

>>30178714
so if i put money in bonds years ago, yields going up does not help me? it isn't like stocks going up?

>> No.30178857

>>30178287
I'm looking at SWP in the Cayman Islands. Offshore seems the way to go for security and tax reasons.
https://nomadcapitalist.com/2016/09/28/best-countries-offshore-gold-storage/

>> No.30178863

>>30177797
Somewhere around 14%
10% physical metal in Kinesis
3% silver miners
1% gold miners (seriously what the hell is with the valuations of KGC/EGO/GOLD?)

>> No.30178890

>>30178848
Depends on what the yield was at the time, it's fixed at time of purchase.

>> No.30178900

>>30178631
Phoneposting from bed, but good on you Anon, it's a great series with great character development and a very comfy atmosphere. Women should be more like Holo and less like the cash me outside chick, but sadly that's not in (((their))) best interest.

Enjoy the rest of it. I'm sad we likely won't get a third season, so I'm sure it will be bittersweet when it ends.

>> No.30178910

>>30178735
either madmaxpilled or juststartedjobpilled

>> No.30178939

>>30178069
based.

>Is that a golden prospector?

>> No.30178952

>>30178890
right so yields changing in the news, does not help or hurt me?
then why do people say bonds do well in recession? why wouldn't everyone just wait until we are in a recession, then buy bonds? i have been investing in bonds all along

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is this real or what?

https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/232.pdf

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>>30178204
I actually had tried an LCS recommended by a friend's boomer dad the day before placing the order. The lady disappointedly said they were completely sold out of anything besides numismatics and she was worried they weren't getting more without paying far over spot.
This was at the end of January, I should try them again.
I live barely outside a major city so I can't believe they'd have that much difficulty sourcing, but it was my first ever attempt at buying silver and hearing they were sold out made me think the price pop was imminent. Had to fomo in online. Plus, all the other LCSs nearby are only open while I'm working.

>> No.30179020

>>30178735
What the difference between Roth and a normal IRA ?

>> No.30179078

>>30178857
Singapore is a worth taking a look at. Ownership of the gold and ownership of the vaults, plus outside of EU/US jurisdiction.

>> No.30179090

>>30178952
Because as more people move into bonds, the yields go down. The real yield on bonds (nominal yield - inflation) has been negative for so long there's very little reason to own them. Unless you're an institutional investors like China trying to gain control over the US, of course. Basically, unless you have a shitfuckton of money to invest in bonds, you are losing money because inflation kicks your gains in the balls.

>> No.30179110

>>30179000
Besides overpriced eagles the only thing my LCS had was an abundance of NTR bars.

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>>30178983
idk anon; I know math but I struggle with reading the variables.
How about this anon, is this real?
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1105.1911.pdf
https://cds.cern.ch/record/411466/files/9912027.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitoelectromagnetism

>> No.30179168

How many oz of Ag will it cost me to buy a US citizenship when fiat collapses?

>> No.30179173

>>30179020
Main difference is contributions are taxed (Roth) or the earnings are (traditional IRA) i.e. appreciation of your contributions. Roth contributions can be withdrawn without penalty at any time, traditional IRA's are taxed. Both have penalties for early withdrawals of earnings.

>> No.30179182

>>30178983
This is a precious metals board anon, we don't deal with your fancy minecraft chains here.

>> No.30179188

>>30179168
500oz

>> No.30179201

>>30179078
Is Singapore really the best location? During non wartime I agree its good, but I expect the Chinks to gobble up Singapore just like the Japs did if there is a war.

>> No.30179232

>>30177378
look i think these are beautiful and I'd love to snag a set but isn't essentially $1750 over spot on an oz?

>> No.30179269

>>30179090
thanks. is it too late to sell them and buy regular stocks? especially considering all time high stocks.
everyone told me to own 20-30% bonds in retirement account.

>> No.30179282

>>30178983
It appears to be. I haven't read the paper and I don't think my brain is even half the size it needs to be to understand it properly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FredericJacobs/status/1367115794363088897

But the thing that I am a little bit confused about is that BTC and I believe most crypto use elliptic curve cryptography, so I'm not sure what the implications are. Elliptic Curve has been speculated as being more vulnerable so if RSA is broken, then what does that mean for asymmetric encryption in general? I dunno.

>> No.30179318

>>30179173
keep in mind though that if you withdraw contributions from a roth you cannot re-deposit them later, you are still bound by the ~$6000 per year limit.

>> No.30179351

>>30178848
>>30178952
The interest on a bond is fixed, the price at which it is sold on the secondary market is what decides the yield. They're said to do well in recession because everything else performs poorly in comparison. But in a hyperinflation scenario, they're the worst asset to hold I'd say.

>> No.30179352

I don't know if I can take Don Durrett's opinion seriously anymore. He keeps talking about bitcoin becoming a national currency.

>> No.30179372

>>30176729
the 'fuck chainlink' paper didn't age well. thousands % gain in chainlink and your stack hasn't really moved an inch

>> No.30179398

>>30179351
and we are talking about bond funds too, right? i am not buying bonds directly, i just make "bonds" part of my 401k contribution.

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>>30179168
Why would you give a shit?
Just pretend to be a beaner and you'll be granted amnesty.

>> No.30179405

>>30178428
No, silver is good for you anon

>> No.30179442

>>30179201
US Navy has a base in Singapore. Pretty much all financial hubs are islands, Cayman, Singapore, HK, Cyprus etc. I think it's by design and not a cohencidence.

>> No.30179445

>>30179405
I'm not going to get argyria from just slobbering over it, will I?

>> No.30179478

>>30178952
Yields going up is bad for you, sorry. It means you will get less if you sell them. Of course you can still just wait until they reach maturity and you get whatever percent they were when you bought them.

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>>30179269
Owning bonds as a significant part of your portfolio was good advice... In the 80s. Same thing with people saying "5% in PMs." No one has updated their thinking on investment as the world has changed in nearly 50 years. Excepting tech stocks, of course.

I have physical bonds that were purchased for me when I was born in the 80s, and up to 2000. I have cashed all the ones that were mature or near mature and turned them into PM. The stock market is going to correct as much as 20% soon, assuming a full market collapse doesn't happen first.

Honestly, you should do more research. My advice is to get into physical commodities (oil, lumber, PMs, etc), commodity producers, and energy companies. The collapse is months to a few years away. Shit is FUCKED.

>> No.30179495

>>30179400
Is this actually a thing ?

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>>30178463
1/
Government bonds are a basic asset where you lend the government money in order to fund government spending. The idea is that government spending is productive (lmao) and improves the ability of a country to produce wealth, thus meaning citizens produce more/earn more, thus more is returned to the government in taxes which is then used to return the initial investment to bond holders + extra.

If market interest rates increase, it means that people are expecting a higher return on their initial investment for whatever reason (typically a strong, growing economy, which then leads to higher market interest rates because companies want more consumer investment to fund expansions in operation, meaning higher profits for the company and a willingess to pay more to borrow savings from individuals). Normally this wouldn't be a problem, but all the signs right now suggest that the economy isn't really recovering, meaning it would be difficult for the government to pay back bond holders from tax alone, and raising taxes is ALWAYS unpopular, so they have to create more money or borrow money to pay back bond holders.

The more yields increase, the more money the government needs to pay back its debt, so again they must borrow or print more money (look at the national debt and M2 money supply since 2008). The problem again is that without an increase in productivity, more money doesn't fix anything, it just prolongs the inevitable need for governments to stop spending money and save. Ironically, when more money is created people tend to expect the inflation of the price of goods and so will expect a higher return from bonds, else they'll sell them and suddenly no one wants to buy government debt anymore and the whole system falls apart. We're rapidly approaching this point because no one really wants to buy government bonds to fund the US government because their return is lower than inflation, meaning you lose money on your investment, and who wants that?

>> No.30179562

>>30179398
I'll have to see how that particular bond fund work, but if the fund is buying bonds with the money, then yes. What's the name ?

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Heads up PMG.

So i'm not gonna recap on the bonds/yields thing as many other posts already mention it. But basically Powell is speaking to the markets tomorrow at 12pm EST. If he doesnt mention that he is implementing yield curve control or some other mechanism on the 10Y and basically does nothing. We are going to dump. Big time dump

>In this case, we will bottom this month, maybe in two weeks.

If Powell does say that they will enact some form of YCC, we have bottomed and it's only up from here so make sure to load up the shopping cart.

>Either way it's gonna be a nail biter and a rough month of Precious Metals.

>> No.30179581

>>30179485
what % PM do you have?
i did do my research, but apparently only from boomer articles, which said put 1/3 of your retirement into bonds.

>> No.30179611

>>30179445
As long as you slobber over pure silver and not a salt or other compound.

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>>30179445
As someone in love with silver why shouldn't one fully embrace argyria? You could easily recognize smart people by their skin.

>> No.30179645

>>30179562
vbtlx

>> No.30179672

>>30179445
No, you will be fine! Enjoy it

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>> No.30179720

>>30179568
When would you say is the timeframe to buy? 2 weeks? I was going to put in a $3k order next week but I can wait if it means a significantly bigger stack.

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HEY JOE GIVE MY MY DAMN BIDEN BUCKS BITCH

YOU PROMISED ME $2,000 NOT $1,400 AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA SEND THE KEKED CHECKS OUT

YOU PROMISED ME $2,000
WHICH I WILL BUY ONE TROY OUNCE OF GOLD WITH SO PAY UP

>> No.30179740

>>30179581
I'm close to 45-50% PMs. I have stocks, cryptos, PM, non-perishable foods, and ammunition. I spread my earnings between all of those, but have been focusing on the last three over the last year.

>> No.30179759

>>30179581
Man, that's a huge exposure to bonds. I'd say 10% ? I started out with 5% when I started working and increased it as I got older. Now sitting at about 20%.

>> No.30179774

>>30179740
okay and just to be clear is the total value of all that more than $10k? i feel like a lot of these ratios/percents are off due to people not having a 401k with 100k+

>> No.30179814

>>30179188
>>30179400
Can Canadians claim asylum because we live under a socialist dictatorship?

>> No.30179891

>>30179740
>PM, non-perishable foods, and ammunition.
Based.

>> No.30179895

>>30179632
Yeah true, and it doesn't really have any bad side effects

>> No.30179900

>>30178910
a little bit of both

>> No.30179958

>>30179774
Yes. I did not include my 401k in that calculation. If I did, it would be about 65% PM as I transferred much of my portfolio to a PM IRA back in April.

>> No.30179961

>>30179774
Tfw have 5 figures in shiny rocks but refuse to tell my family because my sister once asked why I paid $1000 on a half AGE when the face value was $25.

>> No.30180001

>>30179581
Such retarded investment advice, bonds are highly correlated with stocks and they have dogshit returns. Under normal circumstances I'd say go 70/30 stocks/gold, maybe go heavier on the gold though considering how high the DOW/gold ratio is and the clown markets.

>> No.30180013

>>30177378
I bought 100 1 goldback notes. Paid about 330

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>>30179961
>my sister once asked why I paid $1000 on a half AGE when the face value was $25

>> No.30180056

>>30179568
Audio related, posted a minute ago
https://youtu.be/LIxSlybbyV0

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>>30179232
a 1GB doesn't trade for ~$1.70, but rather the cheapest premium price, which is ~$3.50
so on buillonexchange while it's like 80-100% over spot, it's more like 35-40% over its value
inb4 shill, just pasting the info I've found today

-general info-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zyqKuqJ3o

-durability-
https://youtu.be/LT-NW8vfb3M

-examples of use-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrbaSWdiHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCsJxk3mV70

-available-
https://defythegrid.com/ - 1GBs are cheaper
https://bullionexchanges.com/ - higher denominations are cheaper


>>30180013
nice

>> No.30180082

>>30179958
>>30179759
i was going to sell bonds when i saw a stock dip to buy, is there still hope?

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>>30178463
>>30179540
2/
So what happens? The Federal Reserve, a private organisation with the legal privilege of being the only bank able to create USD steps in and buys bonds with the 'dollars' they create from nothing, in order to allow the government to spend more under the premise of 'stimulating the economy'. Now the government doesn't need to price bonds in a way that incentivizes private investment, they can just make bonds cheaper and thus allow themselves to borrow even MORE at lower rates.

MMT advocates say that this isn't a problem, that money printing isn't problematic and that we might as well merge the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury so the government can create as much money as they want (rather than 'borrowing' it from the Fed who creates it out of thin air anyway), but again this relies on the Keynesian notion that government spending is inherently productive, whereas in reality it causes distortions and is often very unproductive.

The problem is that the market sees what the Fed and the government are doing, they see the increases in money supply and subsequent inflation in the price of goods and services, and thus aren't interested in purchasing government debt without a higher return on investment. The Fed can't buy all government bonds without risking destroying the value of the USD, so the government must conform to market expectations and increase the yields of bonds to incentivize private investment. Bond yields can only really go up if the private market is being more productive (which clearly is not currently happening), so the government and Fed work together to lower interest rates for people to borrow money in order to bring forward demand (again, the fantasy of stimulating the economy). This works for a while because of time preferences, but when interest rates reach ~0%, the economy can't be stimulated by bringing demand forward anymore, and then it all goes to shit as the government pay its debt or fund itself.

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>>30180013
>goldback notes
Ngmi

>> No.30180157

>>30179632
He better get cremated and a coin minted from the silver with his face.

>> No.30180179

>>30180056
Looks interesting, I will watch tomorrow.

>> No.30180224

>>30180082
The stock market is gearing up for a fat fucking dip. I would wait for that, then transfer in.

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>>30179372

>> No.30180254

>>30177945
>Why have they become so attractive now
Anyone who hasn't "drank the kool-aid" will at least grimace or smirk at this notion.

>>30178463
this anon >>30178118 and >>30178283 explain what's happening pretty well.
To spell it out:
>when bond yields rise (read: provide more interest)
>it's because more bonds (read: debts) are being sold than bought
If your 401(k) is 1/3 bonds, it's likely a combination of corporate and government bonds. Your big worry is hyperinflation/currency crisis, pretty much nothing else will distrub you. If I had to guess investment min/maxing short of lead beans and brass, i'd Say a bond ETF like LQD, QLTA, and some Government Income Fund and physical Gold are the best bets.

>>30178857
based on that article i'm guessing singapore, but i don't see retrieval being a great option. it would really be more like an upgrade from PSLV/PHYS

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>>30180040
And to think I gave her an ASE for Christmas...
If I find out she used it to buy a burger I am going to go apeshit.

>> No.30180321

>>30179445
If you digest some it could be bad.
Silver is microbicidal, or antibiotic. It kills small living things on contract so if you get too many silver particles in your large intestine it could kill your gut ecology. That could be really bad, you might end up needing a poop transfer, where they put someone elses poop in your poop shoot in order to repopulate the healthy bacteria.

>> No.30180329

>>30179540
>>30180094
Requesting someone cap this guy's posts, this is good info.

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>>30180329

>> No.30180377

>>30180283
>If I find out she used it to buy a burger I am going to go apeshit.
Lmao. I want to gift some of my pm's but am worried my family are too retarded.
My mum is a newfag stacker which is bretty cool.

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>>30180329
>>30180360

>> No.30180447

I know this is a completely subjective thing but what are your thoughts on getting NH goldbacks vs Nevada vs Utah? I'm about to FOMO into 1 of each type + 100 singles but I figure I should do more than 5 minutes of research + the argument I had in here earlier.

>> No.30180453

>>30180283
>>30180377
it's why you only gift them generic rounds

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>>30180360
>>30180385
Both of them, doofus.
>>30180377
Whatever, my siblings are a lost cause. They're baizuo convinced 2ACW is coming but have taken no measures to prepare for it.

>> No.30180480

>>30180095
I have 165oz silver but only 1/10oz of gold. I like the goldbacks but I'll be picking up a half oz krugerrand soon.
Goldbacks are super fractional gold. 1 goldback is 1/1000th oz

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>>30180480
Get gold sovereigns perhaps?

>> No.30180516

>>30180360
>>30180385
>>30180458
Thanks boys, hope he posts more.

>> No.30180533

ok thanks everyone, and finally,
if you are saying you have 6% in PMs, and there was a silver dip tomorrow, would you increase it to 10% or something? or do you maintain 6%?
i am not sure if i should plan on buying more later, or plan on maintaining 6%

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>>30180453
I'm going to gift them fiat

>>30180458
>2ACW
Wot dis?

>> No.30180589

>>30180533
Ask tomorrow afternoon

>> No.30180618

>>30180535
2nd American Civil War I think.

>> No.30180628

>>30180535
2nd Advent of Christ Worldwide

>> No.30180629

>>30180535
2nd American Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOPh5ltbAw
>>30180533
Paper dips don't mean shit when they just raise the premiums.

>> No.30180630

>>30180447
Really just go with what you like the most. They're all great.
This is where I got mine, it had the best price on them when I bought a while back.
https://finestknown.com/shop/?filter_modern=gold

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can someone post the pic >>30167197
about the price of silver in whatever country buying a years worth of living expenses for 2oz? I didn't DL it

>> No.30180691

>>30180628
BASED
CHRIST IS KING

>> No.30180692

>>30179110
NTR bars are best bars.

>> No.30180699

>>30180533
I regularly buy PMs irrespective of price, unless it has increased greatly in a short span. If it drops by a significant margin and I have cash laying around, I back up the truck.

>> No.30180701

>>30180629
>Paper dips don't mean shit when they just raise the premiums.
sure they do, because i am talking about a bona fide "you pay less tomorrow than today" type of dip.
basically if you could find silver at $20/oz tomorrow, would you increase your percent in portfolio, or would you stand by your allocations already being correct?

>> No.30180749

>>30180701
Well duh I'd ape in at $20/oz but if March told us anything it's that you wouldn't be able to find shit.

>> No.30180768

>>30180630
Yep, that's the site I'm on right now. I think I'll just get a few 1's from each state + what I said in my last post, so I can "taste" everything but still in theory be able to spend some instead of hoarding all the unique items.

Realistically I won't spend it though because I'm surrounded by niggers and I don't know any based shopkeepers. I'm too much of a sperg to go to a random store owner and ask if they accept muh goldbacks. Like someone else said, it would be like asking if they accept bitcoin in 2011.

>> No.30180774

>>30180533
>6%
Should be 30-40% minimum. Mix of silver, gold and mining stocks.

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>>30180691
CHRIST IS KING

>> No.30180823

>>30180774
does anyone on this thread, right now, have six figures in PMs?
i wonder if i am asking the wrong people about proportions.

>> No.30180828

>>30180774
If you're young and without dependents, you can probably take the high risk plays on stock and crypto.

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>>30176582
P30? I raise you a P7

>> No.30180872

>>30180675
I posted that earlier on my PC. It gets posted here a few times a day, if someone doesn't have it I'll be posting it again tomorrow

>> No.30180885

>>30180823
>Is anyone on this retarded website 6 figures into PM

Just schedule an appointment with a financial advisor you goddamn faggot

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>>30180094
damn I messed up the last bit, supposed to be
>and then it all goes to shit as the government cannot pay its debt or fund itself.
>>30180516
There's not a lot more to add other than >>30178320
which I shared earlier. There's only two ways this situation can go and neither are great for the average person. Buy gold and hard assets to be safe, buy some btc or tech stocks if you wanna try and ride the wave, but keep watching the yields and be careful, history suggests that we're in a very precarious situation, and until central banks around the world sell off all their gold (which they won't), gold remains about the only truly safe asset.

>> No.30180918

>>30180823
If you think putting the majority of your wealth into cash, bonds and stocks is a safer bet, then you're in the wrong thread.

>> No.30180967

>>30180918
so thats a no then
"50% in PMs!" = $500 in silver, $500 in savings account

>> No.30180985

>>30180823
there is the dragon tier anon who had 12 kilo bars of gold, I think that is largest stack in /pmg/

>> No.30180997

>>30180886
The only problem I have with a "gold only" mindset is that right now, gold is so expensive that your average person could dump all the fiat they own into it and only have an ounce or two. Not ideal.

It's why silver is so important. It's the "affordable" PM, the one everyone can grab a reasonable amount of.

>> No.30181085

>>30180823
There is no "good advice" for where to allocate your wealth right now. All conventional wisdom is out the window because we're in unprecedented times financially. People in /pmg/ look to similar historical events, market fundamentals, and what's going on politically to try to predict the future the same way everyone else does.

What many of us has concluded is that all of this is coming down very, very soon. I'm going to post the picture showing the purchasing power of precious metals in a contemporary hyperinflation scenario (Venezuela) in a minute. You need to worry less about having a proper portfolio, and worry more about what you think the future is going to look like.

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>>30180967
Plenty of people have 6 figures in PMs who visit /pmg/. Probably not online now.

>> No.30181090

>>30180845
Absolutely beautiful anon.

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I keep seeing everyone’s sexy hand poured silver. I need some! Any websites have presales going on? Also should I get one of these, not poured but I like that struck look.

>> No.30181097

>>30180967
I mean I'm mid 20s, not some richfag, I only have 20 grand in physical metals, which is about half my networth.

Maybe you should reconsider the mindset that cash/bonds/stocks are safe in the first place.
A proper currency crisis will wipe out the first 2, and stocks are at nosebleed-level PEs right now, so I hope you own the right ones.

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>>30180458
>baizuo

Why are people using this cringe chink language

>> No.30181161

>>30181088
how many oz is that?

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>>30181105
Because it's a relevant term. What would you prefer I use, nigger-worshippers?

>> No.30181282

If the stock market crashes how are apparently undervalued PM stocks going to do?
I would be financially ruined
How will people with big portfolios manage this?
I can't sell because my PF is like - 10%

>> No.30181286

>>30180823
I'm an iron hands crypto retard but I have $200k in crypto and $25k in precious metals, thinking of selling a good chunk of my crypto in a few months though if the bull runs up some more. I think a good ratio to shoot for is 30% precious metals. if I was older and less risk averse I absolutely would be willing to have 6 figs in precious metals (I've gotten my parents on board with that very idea).

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>>30179737
Aww were you waiting for big dick daddy government to hand out your gibs?

Useful idiots the lot of you

>> No.30181335

>>30179632
So eventually if you ingest enough silver do you transform into another creature that can teleport across the galaxy hunting for more silver?

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>>30180675
>>30180823
Here ya go.

>> No.30181348

>>30181282
by buying the dip to lower cost basis.

>> No.30181360

>>30181161
Yes

>> No.30181393

>>30181088
>>30181161
Quick guestimation, I'd say 4500 oz.
If those back left ones might be 100oz bars and not 1kg though, I'd guess around 9000 oz.

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>>30181311
>Not using gibs to buy more metals
Bro Biden is about to extend my unemployment to September. Neetmaxxing is comfy.
Just keep getting guns and metals and crypto.

>> No.30181409

X3 FOR SOME WEEKS, THAT’S SHOULD BE FOR START ENQ

>these faggotsidiots can’t realize it and still try to mine their trash shitcoins
>I am not a dumb who trusts this shit
>multiminer that is future for everyone

>> No.30181424

>>30181286
older and less risk averse? isn't the common way to be more risk averse as you get older?

>> No.30181440

>>30181286
Physical metals are already getting harder and harder to find. And so many people have piled into ETFs that they're about to run out of metal for those too.
So make sure you don't miss the boat.

>> No.30181476

>>30177595
Thanks for sharing

>> No.30181506

>>30181424
Yes you are 100% correct, I'm just really tired and messed my words up.

>>30181440
I know there isn't much time left but the market can stay retarded longer than you would think. Meaning crypto can go up for longer and gold can stay down longer. Basically staying in crypto is a put option hedge against my current gold stack.

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>>30180997
As I said, so long as central banks hold gold as their ultimate reserve, gold is true money. Silver is more risky because silver has fallen away from monetary status; we don't use physical currency all that much anymore, which was the general purpose of silver when it was used as money - silver as everyday currency, gold as savings. While I do think silver is a good investment for other reasons such as the ever increasing industrial demand, I personally don't care for the argument that silver MUST go up because of the gold:silver ratio diverging from historical norms.

Then again, anything to do with money and value is speculative. If enough people believe silver has value and still consider it a monetary metal, it will be valued as such, likewise things like btc, salt or gigantic rocks which can all be used as money. I guess the point is, gold is expensive compared to silver, sure, but it is cheap historically and still maintains the status of ultimate money, meaning it is less risky. If/when central banks start dumping, then I'll change my mind, but since 2008 they've only increased their holdings.

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>>30181336
thanks

BTW EVERYONE
1GB = $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155

>> No.30181528

>>30180997
>not ideal
Why? Isn’t having a smaller more mobile amount better?
Buy copper if you want a giant fuckhuge stack for cheapies

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>>30181336
This is a more accurate price list btw. Also on your chart gas stopped being subsidized a year ago so that price is out of date.

>> No.30181577

>>30181528
Where tf are you getting copper for reasonable prices?
I just take copper pennies out of circulation when I find them.

>> No.30181582

>>30181506
You're not wrong, but don't have the idea that you can just wait and buy in PMs anytime you like.
If the metal's not there it's not there.
Especially if noone's selling because they refuse to part with it at the "spot price" they're quote on the COMEX.

>> No.30181589

>>30181282
>If the stock market crashes how are apparently undervalued PM stocks going to do?
They will crash too, but rebound faster as PMs recover and break higher.
What will truly get roasted are banks, insurers, big tech...

I already liquidated all my positions but for miners. But desu i'm currently strongly considering selling my miners too, stay 100% cash and buy the falling knife once SHTF.

>> No.30181616

>>30181517
So to break even I need spot to hit $2000 again, not great to be honest, maybe a combibar is the way to go instead of higher denominations.

>> No.30181696

>>30181509
For day-to-day transactions between ordinary people, silver is always better than gold - use pre-65 coinage as an example.
Definitely not saying everyone's gonna run out and start using silver coins again.
But maybe the perception that they will down the line will, and that it'll have monetary status again, will increase the demand for silver.

>> No.30181741

>>30179442
Ya the British had a base there also, yet it fell. If you don't hold it, you don't own it.

>> No.30181748

>>30180967
>>30180533
So what's your current wealth allocations by class anon? Just out of interest.

>> No.30181879

>>30181528
Copper is borderline worthless relative to its size, gold is borderline unaffordable.

Silver lies between them both.

Would you rather carry around thirty ounces of copper, one ounce of silver, or like a gram of gold?

>> No.30181896

>>30176365
watermelon illuminati

>> No.30181921

I can finally post again fuck mods and fuck gold

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>>30181921
Does gold have a vagina?

>> No.30182012

>>30177162
You can easily stack 175kg of sterling cutlery under a single bed.

>> No.30182017

>>30181983
if you want it to.

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>a market proxy for the anticipated annual inflation rate for the next half-decade exceeded 2.5% for the first time since 2008
The feeling of anticipation is overwhelming.

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>>30181517
this math assumes no ask/bid spread on either gold metal or goldbacks when buying/selling, but I think it highlights how they aren't really a good store of value. I think I'll wait to FOMO in now, I'm enchanted by the concept and the pitch they gave on their website but I'm not so sure if it's worth dropping hundreds of dollars on at this critical juncture.

>> No.30182070

>>30181748
60% stocks
22% bonds
12% cash
6% pm

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>>30181696
I agree with you on principle but we must act on real world case usage of silver rather than speculative usage, in the same way due diligence is important when investigating companies or cryptocurrency projects. Think to yourself, what are the current fundamentals of silver compared to gold? Silver is not used for day-to-day transactions between ordinary people and hasn't been for decades, and with the vast majority of transactions today being made digitally rather than with physical cash, silver is no longer used as everyday money. In an increasingly digitised world, physical cash is disappearing and barring a Carrington Event is unlikely to make a comeback, thus limiting silver's value to historical nostalgia, jewelry and industrial uses. That is still a lot of value, but of a different kind.

You could make almost the same argument for gold except that gold is still held and regarded by central banks and governments around the world as their ultimate reserve and backing for their currencies, even if they are no longer pegged.

>> No.30182091

>>30181748
100% PMs

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Good morning frens!
Another day, where I will once again accept my excellent duty as a public defender to defend an accused client, a drunken thug that tried to rob a gas station.
The main hearing is today and I have not read his case, forgot his name and whatever the fuck he even did besides trying to get money of Shell in the middle of the night.
That should earn me enough for 15oz of Maples.
I hope you all have a great day!

>> No.30182285

>>30177797
>Please only answer if you've been employed for more than a year or two
Nah, been working a little more than a year now. 95% of my savings is in physical silver, maybe 1% in copper because I thought it was funny, and 4% in cash I have on hand. Nothing in my bank account so kikes can't load out my money and around 500 debt on my 0% apr credit card.

>> No.30182288

>>30182240
hope things go well on your end mate!

>> No.30182289

>>30182077
I see the point you are making, but allow me to make this one.

Humanity has been on a bimetallic standard for around 2500 years, barring the last 70 or so.

If fiat collapses, where do you think govt's will turn? A commodity that like 15% of their constituents can afford, or a mixture of the two main PMs as per usual?

I grant you it is based on fiat collapse but damn if the world doesn't make me wonder some days.

>> No.30182325

>>30182240
Why did your Canadian coin become African?

>> No.30182326

What silver miner should I buy? Nothing microcap

>> No.30182337

>>30182288
He's a public defender, there is literally no way for him personally to lose.

All he needs to do is show up, make pleading gestures and then console his client when he loses lmao

>> No.30182340

>>30181335
Yes

>> No.30182460

>>30182325
mint shield technology!

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>>30182289
It is a speculative point but I understand what you mean, though remember that using physical gold coins is very different to using gold-backed currency.

Silver still holds some value because of its historical status as money, but most people under 35 wouldn't have ever used silver currency knowingly, and most zoomers are amazed when they see cash (I know this because my dad is a teacher so I hear all the fun stories). Physical money is moreorless dead in a digital world, and with it goes the primary historical use case of silver.

If/when the fiat system collapses, I still don't see any country returning to physical cash. Maybe we return to a gold-backed digital currency, more likely we move to a new fiat digital currency and start a whole new mess, but I really struggle to see silver being used as money anywhere in the future based on the world we live in now.

>> No.30182584

>>30182326
personal favorite mid tier silver / copper / gold miner lately is Centerra. Have a look at them, their pretty good.

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>>30181616
yeah.. I mean I don't think anyone would bet against gold hitting 2000 soonish

also
1GB = 0.001155 + 1.1/spot ounces

>>30182048
yeah I think the best way is to have a business where you accept them. We need people who like the idea but don't know math very well to reach a critical point.
Once we reach that critical point it doesn't matter what the price of a GB is; 1GB = 1/1000ozt gold. A bushel of apples will cost 2GB, a fancy dinner at a restaurant will be 10GB and so on.

A good portion of my reason for purchase was the novelty of the NH ones; I'm hoping for a low serial number. And I could justify getting a few extras as gifts

>> No.30182628

>>30182584
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>> No.30182637

>>30180967
For me I had 5,000 in savings before all of this, bought silver with it all, got 1 month's worth of paychecks so far and used most of that on silver, so probably another 1,000 or more, spent 1,700 tax return and stimulus on silver. Close to 5 figures, hope bidenbucks come in soon.
>>30181085
This is probably the best answer. The future is the most unsure it has ever been, there is no way to accurately predict where we'll be 10 years from now and all you can do is prepare. I, for one, don't care about profiting inside of the system right now that I think is going to collapse so I'm going all in on PMs, and even if it doesn't collapse somehow I'm not paying into this shit system and will continue to buy PMs.

>> No.30182686

>>30182618
>We need people who like the idea but don't know math very well to reach a critical point.
Kek, too true m8.

>> No.30182703

>>30181509
>I personally don't care for the argument that silver MUST go up because of the gold:silver ratio diverging from historical norms.
GSR mining ratio is 8. But that's not why silver must go up come on you know that. We all know Silver is used everywhere, medecine or tech, everywhere. That's why it has to go up. You are right thought, Gold is true money, that's why I do intend to sell my silver once we get around 300$ then rotate to gold stocks.
>>30182289
Be careful to not fall in love with silver. I mean, just look at the last Don Durret interview, you do need to get out of silver for gold at some point, Gov will fuck you hard if you don't.

>> No.30182713

>>30176593
Rolling

>> No.30182799

>>30182703
Pretend I don't watch interviews with industry types, how is the gov gonna fuck my silver?

>> No.30182819

>>30182578
Maybe it wont be used as a currency but it would still make just as good a store of wealth as gold.

>> No.30182833

>>30182799
They ban ETF, they force you out of position hunter brother style, silver price crash, you lose all gains.

>> No.30182842

>>30182799
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6814

>> No.30182849

>>30176593
What's this based on ?

Also, US Mint is supposedly going offline for 2 months in April https://youtu.be/JHhScbxIqTU
Just after the Perth Mint did the same

>> No.30182897

>>30182799
They could increase vat to a 100%...

>> No.30182901

>>30181094
i cant find hand poured silver anywhere. im trying to get some too. lol

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>>30182703
>But that's not why silver must go up come on you know that. We all know Silver is used everywhere, medecine or tech, everywhere. That's why it has to go up
I agree but I don't know how much it must go up, I don't know enough about how much supply there is vs industrial demand, and I don't know how much the historical nostalgia of silver as money plays into silver's valuation in the eyes of much bigger players than me. To me, that makes it a riskier player than gold (again, purely due to central bank holdings) which is the main point I wanted to make.

>>30182819
It would but gold already exists as money currently. Speculating is risky because we don't know.

>> No.30182929

>>30179372
Not that guy and I don't have anything against chainlink or crypto really, but I love calling them stinky linkys.

>> No.30182956

>>30182703
>Be careful to not fall in love with silver. I mean, just look at the last Don Durret interview, you do need to get out of silver for gold at some point, Gov will fuck you hard if you don't.
im not selling my silver asswipe

>> No.30182961

>>30182897
I'm a leaf, there's no tax on bullion

>> No.30182983

>>30182901
Are you in the US

>> No.30183009

>>30182983
yes

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>>30182919
These informations are available everywhere, that's where you start becoming fallacious. People should have gold and think about exiting silver at the right time but not for your reasons.
>>30182956
I'm talking about miner, not physical. Around 300$ Silver I don't dare to imagine how much gains we will make on miner. I intend to secure these gains by rotating into Gold major stocks if the gains are enough. I'm not greedy, just want out of wageslavery.

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Hay! Missed this my first pass this morning! This is great news, I can use this to tell all those activist idiots I live around to fuck off. https://www.mining.com/alaska-british-columbia-mine-rivers-no-risk-to-marine-habitat-report/

>> No.30183036

>>30183009
Here's some

https://www.monarchpreciousmetals.com/silver/silver-bars/silver-bars-all-sizes/5-oz-silver-bar-monarch-poured_5-oz-silver-bar-monarch-hand-poured-detail

https://www.monarchpreciousmetals.com/silver/silver-bars/silver-bars-all-sizes/10-oz-999-fine-silver-bar-monarch-poured-detail

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>>30183035
SHIT FUCK wrong photo!

>> No.30183154

>>30183035
>>30183063
kek

>> No.30183237

>>30182326
Silver specifically? First Majestic. Purest silver miner out there, soon to be paying a dividend, and a hell of a CEO

>> No.30183261

>>30181577
>he hasn't done the math
copper pennies are indeed the best but there's an alternative

>> No.30183275

>>30182077
>we must act on real world case usage of silver rather than speculative usage
We're speculating but we're not allowed to speculate?
If it's going to go back to being used as money, we should obviously buy in before that happens, not after.
Or at least before the jig is up on the fiat money game, and people believe it might go back to having money status.

>> No.30183289

>>30183237
I think their going to do well in arbitration too, its the Mexican government thats being useless in this case, constantly cutting off talks. https://www.mining.com/first-majestic-takes-mexico-tax-row-to-arbitration/

>> No.30183308

>>30183261
Wiring in the houses of vacationing neighbours?

>> No.30183319

>>30182849
2 months is a really long time if all they need to do is swap out the plates for new coins. Hmmm..

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>>30183013
The idea that I'm being fallacious implies that I'm trying to deceive you or others, which I'm not. As I said, there's plenty I don't know.

>> No.30183372

>>30183323
I may have used the wrong word brother but you get my meaning. People shouldn't be 100% silver or at least, they should prepare their exit once we reach enough gains. The idea of keeping our silver stocks until 600 Silver is extremely dangerous.

>> No.30183380

>>30183289
I think they'll do well too, but even if they don't they can absorb the hit and not being in a tax dispute anymore will open up a lot of funds to be allowed to buy them.

>> No.30183389

>>30183319
oy vey goyim you're not supposed to notice things

>> No.30183421

>>30183319
Yeah, somehow they managed to retool so far without shutting down the mint, but now they suddenly need to shut down for it.

>> No.30183465

>>30183372
I'm big gay for silver and I'm ready to sell if it hits 250.

>> No.30183466

>>30183319
They shutting down for good?

>> No.30183475

>>30183380
i am pretty sure its going to end up in one of those situations where the Mexican gov falls on its face and looses but still gains some kind of deal out of it.

>> No.30183478

>>30183289
Mexican government is throwing the kitchen sink at everything they can to try and recoup the losses caused by the cerveza sickness.

>> No.30183482

>>30179020
The Rothschilds are bankers and the IRA builds carbombs to fuck with the English

>> No.30183505

getting ready to bake, pics for my last OP tonight?

>> No.30183533

>>30183465
I honestly don't even think about selling my physical before 600 and even then, I'll just think about it. I see it as a hedge and insurance. I have 15% in physical for my defensive position, everything else is in PM miner and that's where I intend to make gains and sell at 300. Don't know yet if I'll take some profit at 100 because I live somwhere with 35% capital gain taxe.

>> No.30183534

>>30183482
You do know it was revealed that all IRA leaders were MI5 plants?

>> No.30183606

>>30183534
Fake news
They just want the irish to think that so they dont fight
They want the irish to think the English want them to fight

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>>30183505

>> No.30183660

FRESH BREAD HERE!
>>30183654
>>30183654
>>30183654

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>> No.30183685

>>30183475
That sounds about right. You don't happen to know if Keith is or is planning to suspended industrial sales to any extent do you?

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>>30183505

>> No.30183703

NEW BREAD?

>> No.30183741

>>30183692
>>30183668
saving this for later!

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>>30183308
based and crankpilled

>> No.30183838

>>30183036
Real nice ty anon

>> No.30183920

>>30181983
kike

>> No.30184483

>>30181879
A gram of gold

>> No.30184492

>>30176593
role