/biz/ - Business & Finance

What will crypto dying mean for stocks? Will we see a massive rally once they've all collapsed?

TSLA sissies, it is literally over

>>49542880
>>49542880

10 ROCK HARD DISEASED COCKS GAYSEX BROS

i really am hoping
last week was the bottom
we laughed at the bears
but should have just shot 'em

why doesn't he just fuck the cute one?

OIL

>>49542921
I was thinking the same thing. Enough talk shoot them

>>49542921
Mama Mia! Poem anon has a return-a-ed

Are there any good value dividend energy / precious metal stocks? I'd prefer one that hasn't run up 60 percent this month.

I miss the optimism

>>49543019
>I missed out on the commodities pump, bag holding SOXL

>>49543019
dividends are meme

>>49542837
What do you all think of /VBHI/? There a small oil company I'm bag holding but I think they have potential and nerdwallet updating there prediction from $5 to $15.

>FUTURES

>>49542794
thanks for the discussion. again, remember i don't really know what i'm talking about here - mostly guesswork.

1) pretty sure rates are not guaranteed yearly renewable, so they can just increase them for the older people no?
2) imo more likely that they will just fire people (cutting core benefits and pay extremely unlikely). i would assume when looking at your workforce, most who have employer sponsored plans are really going to prioritize their health coverage. so you'll need to offer a good deal if you want to attract/retain talent.
3) i know there is a lot of focus on what "poorer people" are going to do. to be honest, i highly doubt that they are real areas of profit for health insurers and basically run it to curry favor with the govt.
4) additionally, for those that lose their jobs or downgrade their plan - know that it's likely that the insurer is probably going to charge them equivalent (if not higher) rates since group pricing sees extremely large discounts due to bundling, loss-leading and other actuarial math bonuses.

agree about there being a lot of risks (regulatory and employment level) - but if there is a reward, it's worth considering...

PUSSY

>>49543100
what about them? They don't open for another 16 hours. Do elaborate.

>>49543126
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you have less than 1k for net worth?

Any opinionss 9n /VBHI/ pls It's hard to do research on this company.

https://youtu.be/VqUCtCRikA4
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm an alcohol.

>>49543042
I've actually been cash gang 200k since December, but I'm kind of pissed I missed out on the oil pump since I was holding Suncor for 6 months prior to that

>>49543206
I know anon I know I'm holding on to my balls to.

>>49543178
you are correct.

>>49543172
they're gonna be red i can feel it

24 minutes to movie night! Tonite's feature is Piranha (1978) <º))))>< glub glub

>>49543215
I identify as a fish.
Pronouns: bloop/bloop

BTC KEEPS DROPPING

>tfw when down 17% on Micron
fuck me jerry

>>49543360
HOOKED

>>49543360
I hope they are at least having fun.
https://youtu.be/hFO2Ub0Ld5E

>cryptos

>>49543395
BE AFRAID. It broke its support.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

>>49543225
There still time to hop in the commodities train by LEAPs

>>49543438
so where is it going now?

>>49543414
BUDDY

>>49543460
Haven't people realized that crypto is a scam and no one uses it?

>>49543360
The emperor has no clothes. The illusion is shattered. Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger made us all realize that BTC has no intrinsic value and it's going to $0. We have all repented from our degenerate ways.

>>49543120
>so they can just increase them for the older people no?
Yes, but boomers control congress - almost all campaign funding comes either from boomers directly or their decisions on who their companies should back. If health insurers try to raise the price on boomers too quickly they will scream at congress to pass some kind of anti-scalping law that passes the cost on to millennials and zoomers.
2 - it depends, a lot of companies right now have make work positions they made up to fill with diversity hires for ESG points, if they start shitting the bed those positions will get laid off, but for smaller companies that don't rely on ESG they may be in a position where either they cut benefits or end up short staffed. In an expansionary environment where the economy is hot they would need to compete, but if we are heading into a recession there will be less job mobility and people are more likely to just stick it out with worse perks than try entering a gutted job market.
3 & 4 - I'm not sure what the breakdown is for these companies for individual vs corporate plans (both in cost and % of portfolio) so you could be right.

>>49543471
sub single digit PE would be my guess. Its PE ratio is already below 8.

>>49543482
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BULLS GET THAT EXUBERANCE. LOOK AT BITCOIN COMPUTER

>>49542968
I've been here the whole time, I just don't post poems much because I haven't thought of of any new ones. Everyone got pissed I kept repeating

Do you consider yourself a high risk investor?

>>49543497
>price drop of 87%
I know the market hates this stock for some reason, but there's no way it would reasonably drop that far.

>>49543495
think the important thing to note as well for 2, at least from my end, is that insurance is purely a premiums received (cash in) -> claims paid (cash out) game. so even if a shit ton of people get fired or lose coverage - they could still fudge the numbers and collect more than they expect to pay out.

and my gut feeling is basically, yes - these companies will be able to upcharge and get away with it.

>>49543019
Ero Copper. Also SBSW if you trust South Africa, I don’t.

>>49543624
Just fill blank syllables with poo poo or pee pee and you'll achieve comedy gold.

>>49542921
Amazing poem, fren.

>>49543641
easily

>>49543641
I only invest in guaranteed 1000% gain options plays

>>49543641

>>49543708
Me too thanks.
t. trillionaire

>>49543641
No, I buy my options close to the strike price and rarely 0dte. I'm not some high risk investor buying 17.50 calls on a biotech pump and dump 2 weeks away from expiration with 98k because I believe gay people will somehow manage to increase their rate of getting bummed by strangers.

>>49543019
dividend energy= amlp
dividend pm stock = nem

>>49543641
I tossed 45k at a gay sex meme.

>crypto shitting this bad
i want nothing less than a -22% soxl monday

>>49543395
tfw bagholding fertilizers UAN

Imagine a future where there’s no safe place to store your money bros, currency is constantly inflating double digits and no asset is risk free. That’s where we’re heading, your savings will constantly be under attack so you can either work coonsoom die, or you can play the merry go around and hope to cobble something together.

I bet all my money on industrials
the line went down quite a bit
in bed i dreamt a future most magisterial
but when i woke my portfolio looked like shit

>>49543641
My entire Roth IRA could expire worthless if AVPT doesn't trade above $18 for 20 out of 30 trading days by September 2026.
t. SPAC warrant enjoyer

>>49543641
Yes. I invest in african and peruvian miners

Average Lifetime Annual Returns:
VOO: +14.76%
SPY: +9.69%
QQQ: +9.31%
VTI: +8.14%
DIA: +8.02%

So why would anyone not go with VOO? Are they losers?

>>49543834
if we get to that safety is food, bullets, and land

btc just broke the flag

Soooo.... hows el salvador doing these days?

A buttcorn just flew over my house.

Movie night movie night, get in here! Tonite's feature is Piranha (1978)!

>>49543902
Nope nope. Legal system will make it impossible, people will agree to this.

btc be sussin fr fr senpaitachi

I just want to experience sex.
Passively suicidal, 35yo virgin.
Not enough to ever make it, like 80k rn at most.
What is this world.

Hey I haven't checked my stocks in a while I wonder how those are doi- OH MY GOODNESS

wtf is happening to crypto?
also, OIL.

>>49543828
>fertilizers UAN
was eying this one

>>49543876
>So why would anyone not go with VOO?
because I don't ever want to sell my VTSAX

>>49543946
I already forgot what it's like
it's been a while

>>49543946
When the economy gets really bad, prostitutes get really cheap, so just hold on another couple months and you can be swimming in pussy for cheap.
>>49543982
Risk off, institutions are dumping their remaining bags.

>85% of the human race lives in the emerging market

>>49543946
You could either A) buy a hooker or B) build yourself into someone people would want to date and have constant sex with your GF

>>49544016
>institutions are dumping their remaining bags
That's possibly bullish honestly, if cryptos finally decouple from the market.

>>49543215
Sloe Gin Fizz

/smg/ is really just an enhanced /cmmg/ now

>>49543934
Its not even english anymore, zoomers created their own language, why am I still alive ?

>>49543876
maybe, just maybe fund inception wasn't from the same date...
>>49543946
i just want a wife and kids bros

>>49544074
Those commodity fags don’t even want to talk about the VIX, fuck em

>>49544074
We were buying oil while those fucking morons spammed these threads with gayhorse silver. Theyre an abortion of a general, completely stupid while thinking theyre smarter than the bunch of closeted fags posting nothing but trannies and sob stories all weekend. Embarrassing

>>49544074
Have a website that shows where fish live

https://neal.fun/deep-sea/

>>49544081
ngmi

Anyone else following option flow?

Are *you* overreacting to the volatile stock market, /smg/?

>>49543946
I lost my virginity at 16 to a qt highschool girl a grade above me

that's it. that's the whole post. I'm not trying to be cruel but you really kind of lost out waiting until 35.

>>49544137
son, your lifetime annual returns are over different time periods....

>>49543834
If inflation is so bad, just buy stuff. Doesn't need to be gold or some securitized asset. Buy a used Honda Civic, canned food, razor blades, toilet paper, ammo, anything that won't go bad. You'll be able to sell it later at a profit and not even pay capital gains. Or worst case scenario, you can use it.

So are we really just going to let the third world starve to death? Is that the entire plan?

>>49544044
30% of the "human race" aren't even "human" (black)
50% of the remaining 70% are retarded.
Emerging markets are going to have massive die offs soon due to food shortages, political turmoil and wars.

>>49544186
Lost mine at 19 to a butterface girl. Shit was cash.

HOOKED

>>49544230
2 more weeks and shits fucked!

Honestly I dont care if I lose everything. Theres too many "investments" these days. We need to revert to simpler times, an investment free society. Maybe knock out that fancy stuff like interest on bank accounts or other shit. Too much money, integer overflows you know what I mean? Just a big open society of shared resources and healthy communities. Klaus was 100 percent right and I'm sick of schizos on this board complaining. Bobo wash it all away, make us all children of the planet free love free housing.

>>49544224
Yes, unfortunately Europe will have to be sacrificed to save the first world.

>>49544224
Well no, it's to destabilize certain areas for resource plays and immigration to destroy parts of the west. Starvation *deaths* are just a side effect.

>>49544231
ma nigga

WHY DID NO ONE SAY WE HAVE A GDPNOW FOR CPI?!

https://www.clevelandfed.org/en/our%20research/indicators%20and%20data/inflation%20nowcasting.aspx

we limit down monday off this crypto action?

my crwd puts gonna print

>>49543876
If I buy we enter a thousand-year dark age of humanity.

>>49544268
Dante puts the usurers in the lowest sub-circle of the seventh circle of hell, with others whose sins are regarded as doing violence against nature and nature's God; many people have noted that usurers are placed deeper into hell than violent murderers, violent suicides, blasphemers, and sodomites. Dante regards usurers as perverting art, i.e., productive skill, by means of which we are supposed to produce and create and thereby imitate the goodness of God. Usury is the anti-art: it produces nothing substantial, being just a set of multiplication games with money, and therefore does not really contribute anything to 'earning one's way and furthering humankind'. It merely gives the illusion of doing so, and is therefore a sort of mockery of both human reason and divine providence -- indeed, a sort of universal violence against neighbor, God, and one's own reason, an extraordinarily efficient form of violence by which you do the most damage with the least effort.

>>49544074
>commodities up 45% YTD
Wonder why

>>49544320
They might keep it private desu. It's hard to believe everyone just waits for that data to come out.
>>49544346
If the market is green on monday, cryptos will pump too.
They're relatively independent on weekends until futures open lol.

Small caps...

>>49544224
Yes the price of food will sky rocket

>>49544361
And yet fags still wanna shill a dead meme like SOXL

GDP is a meme.
>In a speech this week, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell raised the possibility that the problem is with the data itself. GDP measures the value of products and services that are bought and sold. But many of the greatest technological innovations of the internet age are free. Search engines, e-mail, GPS, even Facebook — the official economic statistics are not designed to capture the benefits they generate for businesses and consumers.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/11/fed-tries-to-figure-out-value-of-free-internet-services-to-americans.html

>>49544375
god i wish that were my chinchin

>>49544458
Mmmm that shows up in engrossed profit margins. Thousands of small businesses run off of free services from Google, they never pay a penny for their operations. Take off the goy glasses and re-read that as “Fed tries to find way to monetize tech companies for cashflow without harming economy”

This crypto crash has been something else eh

>>49544458
Why deflation was happening and printing money didn’t matter.

>>49544458
Also, this is bearish, it means the fed is looking for ways to massage the GDP numbers. That means some seriously fucked numbers are going to hit

>>49544519
Big money helped it pump to ATHs then have been dumping it on retail for months now. I don't think it's over yet.

>>49544519
I'm losing literally tens of dollars and you're laughing!?

>>49544565
still seeing crypto advertisements on cnbc

>>49544577

uranium

>>49544560
The article is from 2019, but GDP is still a meme. This means all measures that use GDP as an input are memes.

>>49544593
It was a top signal lol. A clear as day one.

>>49544375
Its large caps for me

>>49544517
>>49544560
It’s not the fed, economists have been saying this for years. It helps explain the diminishing return on gdp on more industrialized nations. Why is Vietnam gdp at 12% while the west is around 2%. Is Vietnam 6x more productive per dollar, unlikely. Wikipedia destroyed encyclopedia’s GDP contribution. We aren’t poorer for it.

>>49544603
It’s always been a meme, paying people to dig and fill holes ect. The data derived from it is fine though, since it applies evenly to all participants.

>>49544458
>hey. anon. you know that hedonic method we use for inflation? Well guess what we're gonna use it now for GDP. You can thank me later.

>>49544375
>small cap
>>49544603
>full cap
>>49544644
>large cap
No cap?

>>49544673
Let me ask you this then, if GDP is a meme then why does tanking monetary velocity tighten inflation. It’s a metric based on GDP.

>>49544714
What the fuck nigger you've never dug a hole? depending on where you are in the US you're gonna hit rock at about 1-8 feet, and then water around 50-80 feet. ideally if you digging a deep hole you'll have an excavator. I already digging a hole this year, doing an entire underground complex below my property and the neighbors. They'll never know. Started with a mini excavator, now I've got John Deere 35 series and a 333g skidsteer. Making great progress, reinforcing with concrete and rebar, first subfloor will be 20 feet.

>>49544728
Fr, this inflation is mid, the situation is not bussin' at all. No cap.

Am I retarded for buying docusign after that 25% drop Friday? I generally keep buying shit I see hitting pre-COVID levels.

>tfw my dumbass co-worker thinks Ukraine giving up against Russia will somehow stop the incoming recession
the truth is the game was rigged from the start

>>49544778
I never said it was meme? But your point the biggest problem with GDP. Economy is defined by productivity and GDP only measures final prices.

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-01-14

>>49544797
There’s dwarves below 30 feet retard
I actually did dig a pretty big hole once, 12-15 feet down, and threw a bunch of fireworks in it with friends.

>>49544803
I’ve never cummed so hard to a 4chan pic.

Millennial bros, Zoomers are going to make fun of us for over-using the "no cap" meme. We're turning into the out-of-touch Boomers yelling "that was epic for the win" and "i can haz cheezburger". They have to have more lingo to make fun of than just "on god fr no cap sussin bussin".

Are the GameStop people retarded or is there a possibility the stock could pump to 4 or 5 figures?

>>49544878
>30 ft
search warrants stop at 10ft for a reason. by 15 ft dwarf related artifacts can be found which are not admissible in court.

>>49544929
GME stock is literally just a shitcoin at this point

>>49544876
I don’t think productivity is the only metric. I think GDP works well for what it is, which is a measure of volume in the economy. Productivity in the economy doesn’t need to be measured. If your monetary base is rotting and you lost 10% of trade volume this year, that’s a bigger issue then your productivity slightly dipping.

>>49544905
Let’s go Brandon!

>>49543834
its called "commodities" you know, things that are in short supply that people need to buy. Oil, wheat, gas, corn, ethanol, uranium. gold and silver will do 10-20 percent at best

>>49544905
fr fr no cap? I don't want to be too sus, wouldn't be bussin.

>>49544953
Productivity doesn’t need to be measured with GDP* is what I meant

>>49544905
dead ass

>>49544905
Nigger faggot

>>49544953
The beauty of the GDP is it’s easy to measure. That’s why it’s used. Economists would love accurate metrics on everything, productivity being the most important, but there’s no easy way to calculate that. Hence why GDP is here to stay though flawed.

Thoughts on GDX

on monday i will buy a leveraged short position for the first time. would you guys short this chart?

>>49544949
Then why and how is it at $129 when it’s really a $4 a share stock? That’s what boggles my mind it should have crashed but is holding even when the market is dumping.

>>49544157
Nope, still holding my 3x Bull ETFs.

>>49542837
Pqeff anybody? Seriously, not 1 mention?

>>49545173
It’s why I’m not to concerned about a drop. If nasdaqs loses another 25% it’s time to go all in on a 3x. Go for a 200x return like in 2010.

>>49544905
Unironically just hit them with a good ol 90's "retard".

i want to sex

>>49545143
Yes, because the real estate collapse will force even more desperate anti-WFH measures. And the company itself no longer has any moat, since Microsoft Teams works well enough.

Pick your preferred market cap.

For me its small caps...

>>49544905
>Millennial bros,
bruh u sound hella sussy

>>49545274
large caps, but i don't like the character, acts too ditzy for my taste. would love to rail a girl like that though so whatevs.

>>49545274
Why is the small caps girl so red? Are they making animes about Navajo now?

>>49545274
Mid+large might as well not exist

>>49545161
Because the market doesn't objectively evaluate value. When retards are throwing a collective shit ton of money at a stock, the price will likely go up and price memory will prevent a decent sized group of people from selling. There's also the shares that are locked up via sunk cost fallacy where people who bought the shares during the original run up aren't willing to realize the loss.

>>49545274
Large caps because she'll femdom and pegg me

>>49545376
She has a fake tan

>>49544905
What are you talking about, I only use it just enough to get that zoomer minge. fr senpai, on god.

>the same people that purposely want be pozzed will want a cure for gaypox
the bull thesis for SIGA is a joke

>>49544519
Bitcoin is unironically shitting itself downward back below 10,000
Has been for months now.

>>49542880
Last set of people to send a rocket to the moon were all white males.....

>>49544905
You could always browse tiktok and fall down the zoomer rabbithole if you want
But you might lose a lot of brain cells doing that

>>49542880
Has Elon uncovered the secret to getting his company to be staffed entirely by White and Asian males while still pretending to not be racist?
Pretty bullish for Tesla (post dump)

So a nice green day for Monday, right?

>>49545649
My Persian friend is a head engineer their. Biggest nose you have ever seen.

>>49545686
So you're saying that their engineering teams refuse to hire poos due to the smell? In 10 years they'll be the only company with working software!

>crypoo
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAGAGAGAGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj542-yArUI

>>49544778
>why does made up factor in equation depend on other made up factoe in the equation?
Because you put it in the equation

>>49544458
economists are a meme.

I fisted my wife in the shower for half an hour and am now getting stoned while she fellates me, bullish for UVXY

>>49545988
>I fisted my wife in the shower for half an hour
Never got that fetish?

>>49545274
Rolling

>>49545861
Is the video antisemitic? I'm not wasting 26 mins on a video that's not antisemitic anon

>>49544778
It doesn't. velocity tanked when money was printed, as its just defined as GDP over money supply. The banks refused to use the money so it looked like "velocity" was decreasing but really nothing changed in the economy.

Energy consumed is a more useful indicator of economic activity but I don't think it's easily tracked anywhere.

>>49545870
Wrong, monetary velocity effects inflation directly.

>>49546048
Partially Incorrect, tightening of cash holdings via Basel II framework lowered monetary velocity which lowered inflation. Banks don’t just refuse to spend cash, you can tighten monetary velocity directly by cutting GDP by slowing down the cash changing hands in existence, not just new cash. This shows GDP has a relation to inflation, it is not just made up.

how long did it take you guys to learn all the lingo/be effective at investing?

>>49546055
>inflation
Another made up number
Great going.

Ok, hear me out

Piranha booba

>>49546048
US government tracks North Koreas and China’s growing light pollution from space as it gives them a more accurate read on their real GDP.

>>49546136
just learn it as you go, there's too much garbage made up words out there

short term, intermediate, long term, or total bond fund?

>>49546143
Oh my apologies I didn’t realize you were a redditor, yes it’s all corporate profiteering you got me *clap emoji*

>>49546145
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>>49546195
dude the corporations are just using these times as an excuse to charge the highest they can!

Wait are you telling me they always do that?!!!

>>49546121
Lol. It shows increasing holding requirements means banks have less money to lend. I guess technically that could slow down GDP but its just the "actual" money supply that's being modified. So why measure GDP when you can just pay attention to changing reserve requirements or the "real" money supply?

>>49546145
ZERO CLOSURE

>>49545143
Might bounce for a day or two but yeah i think its going down

>>49544797
How deep do Elons Boring holes go?

>>49546229
Help Elizabeth Warren, save us!

>>49543834
what you described would be preferable to the actual future where the plebs literally aren't allowed to save or invest their money because their UBI checks come in the form of expiring, limited digital currency

>>49544797
redpill me on sandy loam and minecrafting irl

>>49544905
Zoomers are 20% gay fr fr no cap

>>49543834
Look, I'm a peaceful man, I really am. But I'm just saying if my actions have no permanence, then the people around me are about to quickly find themselves to have no permanence as well. You know, in Minecraft.

Based off the crypto action, I assume we're gonna dump again Monday?

>>49546353
I'm a zoomer and I'm 20% cooler than you

>>49546306
I love how a smart tool for optimizing stimulus money slippery slides into a hellscape technopunk distopia. You are why we can’t have nice things. Everything’s always all or nothing.

>>49545559
its not a cure, its a therapy u fucking retard. Go have gay sex

>>49546369
cooler means nothing when your 35 faggot. Its all about the bank account no cap

>>49546412
hey man you're a millionaire grindset i get it but she just let me tap because im goofy

>>49546233
brainlet here. not an econfag so i have no idea what i'm talking about.
so let's say i increase velocity 2x via technology that increases speed of transactions.
money supply is fixed.
but the increased velocity creates the illusion that there is more money in the system since transactions are 2x fast.
so then this would show up as increased productivity or whatever in 2x GDP, right?
so you need some kind of relationship.
but for which variable do you substitute the relationship for inflation? is it money supply?

LONG USO GDX XLE UNG X UUUU VIX DBC
SHORT TLT IYR UUP QQQ ARKK XHB

>>49546233
It immediately means they have less money to invest and lend yes. We’re post glass steagle, if the banks have cash to invest it goes to the IB arm. That aside, if I’m understanding you right, you’re asking why even look at GDP data when you can just look at the change between like M3 and M2 to get a better picture of the economy? The movement from other assets into cash? It’s because, as you said, this cash just sits on a balance sheet doing nothing, it does not give you a good picture of inflation and real economic volume in the economy. M2 skyrocketed the past decade yet commodity prices went down, because the monetary supply alone tells you nothing about economic activity.

BUDDY

DONT GET HOOKED ON THE BTC

BUT LOOK AT THE CRYPTO SYSTEMS

https://youtu.be/8d8-h4-PLE8?t=1387
we wuz art n shieet

>>49546455
is that a man or an exceptionally fat pussy

>>49546455
You dodged a bullet Morty, trust me. Puffy Vagina.

it's about to be a very pink board

>>49542921
Don't worry.... Bobo will get his..
I promise you that

>>49546448
wheres that nigger skete, im gonna fucking lynch him

>>49546563
>pink fields was 4 years ago
man, how the time flies

>>49546579
btc is about to accept 26k

>>49546605
When should I jump back in?

Uhhh this crypto dump does not bode well for us monday

>>49546452
But the increased velocity creates the illusion there is more money in the system since the transactions are x2 as fast
Yes, more or less this is correct. It’s not an illusion though, think of it like this, if we put a tax on all land or stocks each quarter and say that tax goes to Americans to pay credit cards, every quarter Americans fully pay off their credit cards with this tax and then spend them again. No new money was created, but economic activity increased x4. So GDP is 400% over 100% change in money supply, monetary velocity goes up 400% Its a lot like fractional reserve banking.

>so you need some kind of relationship.
but for which variable do you substitute the relationship for inflation? is it money supply?
Not sure I understand this question fully, you might have to rephrase. Are you asking if increased monetary velocity creates inflation, then how you can control it, through money supply or GDP? If so, I would so the answer is it is more even. You can either raise taxes or put tariffs ect to tank gdp and lower inflation, or you can restrict the monetary supply. The fed can’t make laws or taxes, so they can only control inflation through the monetary supply

>>49546624
like maybe 3500 if btc doesn't end up actual kill

We just have to survive till september when the shemitah ends

>>49546667

>>49546514
The crypto pits are in agony
I am glad none of us are down 60% right

>>49546516
shiiieeettt

Puts or calls on ORCL tomorrow?

>>49546705
Do you have the pic of Nazi propaganda pics compared to Jews in real life?

>>49546706
>be me
>invested in stocks instead
>only down 51.64%
>cryptards down 60%
heh, it ain't ez being on top bros

>>49546516
shiiieeieieiiiiitttt

>>49546372
sorry about your lack of a soul, enjoy hell

>>49546753
Not even the DoD wants that shit anymore.

>>49546778
I’m sorry about your lack of economics knowledge. Enjoy poverty, I mean Hell.

>>49546653
> if we put a tax on all land or stocks
right, but you're converting low velocity money into high velocity money, correct? compared to the velocity effects of something like a sales or income tax?

>you might have to rephrase
yeah, i wasn't quite clear. basically i was wondering what the magic equation for inflation was. kek

How bad is next week gonna be?
-6% per day again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6sEcFYQh_o

"I have to sell it back to you one way or the other … it isn’t going to do anything," Buffett said.

"That’s the difference between productive assets and something that depends on someone paying you more than the last guy got," he added.

"In my life, I try to avoid things that are stupid, and evil, and make me look bad in comparison to someone else, and bitcoin does all three," Munger said.

Will the US even be able to hold itself together during the upcoming depression?

btc dropping again right now

>>49546966
will liberals continue to be self assured cunts?

>>49546966
Spoiler alert: We're not getting a depression, or even a recession. Growth will slow significantly, but it won't go negative and basically everyone is freaking out over nothing

>>49546706
thank god I'm only -40% every year since 2015

>>49546966
Minneapolis police said officers found the body of a man in a building burned down during the protests over the death of George Floyd in May.

"We are treating this death as a homicide," police spokesman John Elder told CNN.
On Monday morning, officials from Minneapolis Police and Fire Departments along with agents from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives went to a building on East Lake Street based on an anonymous tip, Elder said.
Officials searched the burned rubble where Max It Pawn once stood and found a "deceased individual," Elder said.


Washington Commanders head coach Ron Rivera on Friday fined his defensive coordinator, Jack Del Rio, $100,000 for calling the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol a “dust-up” and referring to the racial justice protests of 2020 as a “summer of riots.”
“A group of citizens attempted to overturn the results of a free and fair election, and as a result, lives were lost and the Capitol building was damaged. Coach Del Rio did apologize for his comments on Wednesday and he understands the distinction between the events of that dark day and peaceful protests, which are a hallmark of our democracy.”

>>49547056
I think were going to hit recession. but I think you're right in the sense it's going to be mild.

the idea though is that as interest rates rise valuation multiples are going to be crippled.

aka, why buy fucking anything

>>49546706
Only down 25%

>>49547056
but it already went negative last quarter, wtf are you talking about?

Nice squeeze baggies

>>49547081
It's now wrongthink in America to consider protests with people burned to death in their businesses violent at all

>Getting so desperate I've started taking stocktwits posts as truth to get even an ounce of hopium
It's truly over isn't it?

also

>being down in this predictable price action

lmaoooo

>>49544375
which small caps you in?

>>49547081
>our democracy
it's also wrongthink to note the us is a constitutional republic

man, they REALLY don't like that one

>>49546868
>right, but you're converting low velocity money into high velocity money, correct? compared to the velocity effects of something like a sales or income tax?
That’s actually a good way to look at it. I would say that high velocity money is economically productive money though, it is desirable to have high velocity as it means you have a very economically productive nation. Low velocity money is economically unproductive money, long term investing is over ruling actual productive economic activity

>yeah, i wasn't quite clear. basically i was wondering what the magic equation for inflation was. kek
Growth and money supply my man. The money supply could increase 300%, but if growth /GDP is also up 300% there’s no inflation. Inflation happens when you borrowed money to produce growth, and then failed to produce growth.

https://youtu.be/ftqaoTQdVLY

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

https://youtu.be/ogjqLZ3iOmc

CLEAN IT UP JANNIE FAGGOT

>>49544186
Yeah I lost my virginity when I was 13 to another 13 year old and kept getting laid for the 25 years after.
I don’t understand the Intel thing. While it’s true I looked like an up and coming member of *NSYNC when I was young, I had some weird looking bros that did just fine in the female market.
Captcha: TR AGN
You’re going to make it, incel bros.

>>49547258
Not really. The important aspect is innovation and technological progress.

>>49547088
I don’t know. I just buy stuff I like every red day. If it doesn’t work out, I don’t really care. I grew up really poor so losing half of my money doesn’t really bother me. My mortgage is 1.9% and I have no other debt. My wife and I both work in highly necessary sectors. There’s really nothing for me to worry about until there is.

>>49547334
Of what, of inflation? Growth? It’s baked into the cake, your currency gets stronger if people demand it to buy your technology services.

>>49546195
Nice arguing against a strawman idiot.

>>49546885
I doubt it, but I’m 80/20 right now, so I’d actually welcome that.

>>49547408
Don’t post dumb shit if you don’t want to get dumb shit back. I did not say “CPI and GDP have a relation” for a reason, I could give less of a fuck if the numbers are massaged if the concept is sound.

>>49547399
I mean that theoretically the economy isn't that important. If you cut out all VC and startups, but had a much stronger economy and standard of living in USA, it wouldn't be worth it

How do you fags feel about the autonomous security sector. I think it’s bullish right now since all the shit going on is just a push for surveillance and machines replacing people.

>>49547488
like robots or people watching thru cameras

>>49547507
Both. Since guards can’t and won’t do shit anymore, companies will cut cost and liability by upping surveillance with autonomous security bots and ai cameras. Gun detection, behavioral analysis, facial recognition. Like a baby skynet.

>>49547478
Uh, I disagree, but I don’t think we’re having the same discussion.

If you want to talk about VC though, Most of the VC dickwads I’ve met in my career lived off grifting the companies they bought and insider trading on those companies.

>>49547507
I don’t agree with it, but it seems that’s where we’re headed. Might as well make money from it.

>>49547488
Stay away from self serve grocery kiosk companies. No one wants to use that junk.

>>49547602
Ok that’s not what I was taking about though.

>>49547562
Yes, autonomy does introduce massive changes on the security front. Whether securing store goods, catching theft, or otherwise. Autonomous cars have large camera capabilities and also would deter criminals.

I think some countries will eliminate crime aggressively given the technology getting there.

>celebrating crypto dumping

This is a really bad sign for the market at large you fucking idiots.

>>49547622
Oh I missed the security part. They'd still need a person to act on it and, as we all know, people are lazy bastards and won't do shit. Might be good for an OK pump but as an industry it'd get hit with the snake oil shorts real quick.

>>49547630
Yeah I think data analytics companies will profit from this too. I know it’s considered a meme stock, but I think companies like Palantir are going to be big in 5 years.

>>49547648
Not really, Crypto dumping extremely hard is actually bullish. Only weapon of feds is weak demand destruction effects, which require large and fast decreases in market valuation. Sooner wealth effect of crypto is decreased, which is popular among working age people, the better for us.

>>49547648
Good for that dude realizing that he’s a dude and should just be a dude.

>>49547648
t. crypto baggie

>>49547659
Chips, computational companies, big tech, etc will all have exposure to these trends. I wouldn't pick a security company in particular because they likely have no advantage in the technology.

>>49547648
his hope and optimism: restored

>>49547657
Yeah you still need a dude, but you don’t need 3 dudes staring at their Instagram feed and taking long breaks. You don’t need to pay them and provide benefits. Bots work 24/7 with no complaints.

>>49547648
Only if you are a dumbass Mumu

>>49547446
> I could give less of a fuck if the numbers are massaged if the concept is sound
The concept of gravity is sound. I round up the gravitational acceleration of earth to be 10m/s^2. This leads to consistent physics in your dumbass head. Go neck yourself

>>49547685
I totally get what you’re saying, but that’s like telling people not to invest in charging companies because chevron will just make their own chargers. They will, but corporations will still order chargepoints for their parking lots. Small companies can make big moves, up and down admittedly. I just think there’s opportunities to be had in the sector.
Knightscope for example has been on fire with contracts lately despite the negative movement in their share price. I think they’ll gain significant market share long term.

>>49547753
Yeah but nvidia or tesla could whip up something better in an afternoon

>>49547743
So triggered. Perhaps, a little cow who figured out it was a bull market and he was not a genius?

>>49547775
Still not arguing your point. You acutally have a good chance of becoming a woman if you transition.

>>49547770
so yeah, if the security company is profitable now it's maybe investable but make sure they are competitive with world class AI

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.

>>49547770
Yes but do they want to. I don’t think they do. It’s not their lane and it opens them up to criticisms the same way Palantir got negative sentiment for working with ICE to uphold the law.
Captcha: ADHDn

Here's another question for 80iqs itt
What's the unit of monetary velocity?

>>49547805
Yes, physics and trannies are on topic I get it now

>>49547828
Oil

>>49547817
Envy is a sin anon

>>49547828
Dollars gigahertz per acre foot

>>49547843
It's more on topic than whatever the fuck you posted

>>49547828
girth in inches

Who's bakin?

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>>49547914
grrrr

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>>49547936
got u

>>49547205
ABSYX

AVUV

>>49547817

>trying to outsmart God

Now you're thinkin like a Jew, anon.

I knew you could do it.

bake

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