/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50596153
mental illness is the only explanation I got left

Uhh, hello? Priced in.

>>50596153
This exact thing happened in may. Powell came out and everything went apeshit, next day everything gapped back down. I remember well because I had a call that I didn’t sell that day and the next day it was worth shit. If you have any calls in the green right now, I strongly suggest selling

Economic warfare against the us citizens. Couldn’t be anymore obvious now.

>>50596153
The markets expected a hike, which was already priced in. The fact that the hike was 75 and not 100 is what is causing the pump.

>LE PRICED IN DIAMOND HANDS SILLY BOBOS THE MARKET IS FORWARD LOOKING
If you look at charts of historical recessions, the summer is a period of lower volume and lower volatility. The reason Black September has happened more than once is because people come back from vacation, observe that the market is fucked and then dump their portfolios.

These are recurring constants in the market, it is cyclical and observable. The bobo may lose today, but he wins when september 1st comes around.

>>50596153
>INCREASING COST OF CAPITAL
>DECLINING EARNINGS
>FLOUNDERING SUPPLY CHAIN
>ALL PRICED IN

the market is retarded like always

>>50596256
I thought about this, but for me a 0.25% hike was more likely than a 1% hike considering the terrible economic data. Even the WSJ wasn't sure yesterday if they would hike full 0.75%. I really don't understand how anybody expected 1%.

same people that tell you if you mutilate your dick you're a women are saying were not in a recession...got it

>>50596153
>gdp way down
>but employment way up
this seems bad

>>50596201
You can't price a total economic collapse.

>>50596297
the cpi numbers were the reason why some people expected 1%. The expectations that the futures market implies are always shown here:
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>>50596297
The latest CPI figures were the highest they've been yet, that would have been a reason to hike 1%.

>>50596279
I didn't know americans had vacations

>>50596153
Short squeeze

>>50596375
The 1% do.

>>50596405
That's actually a good point. Would this imply falling prices tomorrow if all shorts panic-bought today?

>>50596186
This. You underestimate how addicted the market is to the upside. Thats the results of using QE for decades. These people will buy the all the dips until they are broke

>>50596365
That’s old data from June, retard

>>50596330
>You can't price a total economic collapse.

I think I just did.

>it's priced in
How the fuck can the market price in that Europe will not have any electricity this winter?

>>50596203
this. This is inflation is transitory shit v2. And with China and US crying over Taiwan, it'll spook markets in future

>>50596153
The US could have a civil war and the markets pump 10%. Every situation in all universes are already priced in.

>>50596441
but if it never goes down are you really broke? its a circular reference much like life itself

>>50596545
Ruskycommies and eurosocdems commiitng mutual destruction is bullish for global capitalism

>2 full time jobs, 40 hours / week
>5 "jobs", 16 hours / week

Wow Biden just made 3 jobs! Wait why is GDP down?

>>50596153
This is bullish for chainlink. Everyone is going to be in UBI camps and link marines will make it.

>>50596153
clown market resumed
It was not supposed to dump like this for half a year...

>>50596153
You realize markets bottom out before the economy does, right anon?

>>50596330
>Small dip
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE EVERYONE EVERYTHING IS GOING TO SHIT DESPITE JOBS GOING UP AND UNEMPLOYMENT GOING DOWN WHILE COMPANIES ARE DOING FINE ENOUGH ON EARNINGS FOR A FEW ROUGH MONTHS!!! THE YOUTUBER I WATCH SAID ITS GOING TO 0!!!!!!

>>50596281
Market like predictability, the Fed's reaction is the last shoe to drop

>>50596153
Plunge Protection Team

the same was 4th May and 15tn June. Pump in the day of FOMC meeting, dump the day after. But it can be otherwise this time because of the GDP report. No recession (that is most likely) may cause a pump as it is a good news because everybody awaited recession.

>>50597104
>No recession (that is most likely)
I take confidently the other side of this bet anon

>>50596153
If you assume the truth is the opposite of whatever these slimy cold reptiles say, you will become very rich.

Remember qhen they said our economy will do better because yellin is a women?
Remwmbwr when they said inflation was transitory?

>>50596375
I get unlimited paid time off. As long as I give a week or two notice ahead of time I can go out as long as I want. The only jobs that don't offer vacations are the ones done by illegal immigrants that have no real contract with their employers. Even dead end retail jobs give at least 2 weeks a year minimum.

>>50596153
W-what are we transitioning to?

>>50596203
No. It's nothing like May. Technicals are completely different.

>>50596153
The fed has been buying bonds, which is a form of quantitative easing. In other words the fed is continuing a policy of QE while trying to scare the market with increasing rates QT.

TL:DR Fed is Saying less money coming to market while giving more money to market

>>50597492
For whom are they doing the theater show then?

>>50597571
The public, who are upset that their heckin gaserino and rent is getting more expensive or whatever, they have to look like they're doing something

>>50597571
You will own nothing and you will be happy

If they seriously increased rates it would make the powers that be look bad (worse) and since powell wants to keep his job he has to please the powers that be wile not being unprofessional. they are in other words doing the theeater for you, the market.

>>50597337
>Even dead end retail jobs give at least 2 weeks a year minimum
No. You get one week a year but you have to work a whole year without vacation when you start to earn that week of vacation. Also its just 7 days of PTO and not really vacation. You call in sick, you lose a PTO day and get a point. 7 points in a year and you are terminated.

>>50597643
Technically, anything he does is "unprofessional" since at this point there's no way to curb inflation without causing massive unemployment. There is no good guy thing to do in this situation.

>>50597747
Tbh that is more the fault of keynesianism as a whole, stagflation should be impossible yet here we are. One can act professionally even if following a faulty doctrine

>>50597600
>>50597571
>>50597643
>>50596279
Have you niggers ever though for a second that the world doesn't work as you think it does?

>>50596279
people stopped being able to afford vacations, this shit is cope.

>>50596153
Pre pandemic Apple was trading at 30-35PE on a cheap day.

Apple, when it bottomed a week or so ago. Was trading at a 15 PE.

Every company giga boomed in consumer America with essentially $40k UBI. It's not just stock buying like everyone says, rather normies went and bought fucking Iphones with there covid bux. At unprecedented record levels.

Every one of these companies reported such massive record profits all the time these last few years that even a pullback puts them so much further ahead than a few years ago.

The last 2 years were such blowout record profits that these single percentage point misses across the board shouldn't really be cause for concern but the christian right needs to score a win so they are flailing and shrieking about this.

If prepandemic is X then COVID bux went X+10=Y This current pullback is really like Y-.5=Z.

>>50599482
A recession would imply that the consumer is broken. Which every indicator shows isn't the case.

Big Oil/Gas has been the clear outlier for consumers but they very fking clearly kept prices higher than they needed to so Fox/Shapiro(DW literally owned by an oil company, not Shapiro)/Whatever other influencers grown men watch could ride them as an inflation example.

>>50599482
>>50599535
Reddit spacing
Not calling this a recession
Confirming Yellen POV
>christian right
Mixing politics with money

GLOW INTENSIFIES

>>50596153
BOOMERS WON'T SELL THE BOTTOM BECAUSE IT'S THEIR RETIREMENT

KIDS WON'T SELL THE BOTTOM BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY CAN JUST WAIT OUT THE POSITION

INSTITUTIONS DID SELL WHICH IS HOW WE GOT TO THESE LEVELS IN THE FIRST PLACE

HEDGE FUNDS ARE OVERLEVERAGED ON THE SHORT SIDE BECAUSE THEY EXPECT BOOMERS AND KIDS TO CAPITULATE, NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NO LONGER SIX YEARS AGO BECAUSE HEDGE FUNDS ARE FAMOUSLY STUPID

I AM VERY COOL BECAUSE I TYPE IN CAPITAL LETTERS

>>50599089
>Have you niggers ever though for a second that the world doesn't work as you think it does?

>>50596153
No fucking clue. Kike magic to fuck people probably.

>>50596279
I support myself and another on a salary of $150k. We cannot afford to vacation.

>>50596153
Companies are increasing in value, simple as

>>50597404
>Technicals
Everyone laugh at this stupid monkey nigger

>>50596153
I think that most people don’t exactly understand what hikes actually do.

>>50596279
>reason black September happened
Stupid fucking goy, it happens because Shemitah ends in September, and us Jews rug the market at the end of Shemitah. This time will not be different, we will pump it till late September and then pull the rug on the maximum amount of goyim who entered the bull trap.

>>50599482
Ur a tard and a fag. APPL is trading at a 25 pe currently while they traded below a 20 pe during the entire 2010-2020(March) period. The 2020-2021 "bull run" (more like brrrr run am I right?) has mostly been ratio expansion not profit expansion, no giga-corp declined in PE during the ZIRP/QEi orgy, chickens are coming home to roost, the Oligarchy was made whole via scamdemic helicopter money, you dumb fuck permabullniggers are going to hold their bags for the next decade.

>>50600464
so what will this mean for the economy when Hedgefunds start shitting the pead and institutions have cashed out?

>>50596153

>things have to make sense

they don't

>>50596256
>The fact that the hike was 75 and not 100 is what is causing the pump.
You are in full retarded cope mode.

>>50596375
I always went on a summer road trip with my parents in August and we were working class. It's only the best goys that don't take vacation (and the poor)

>he thinks his IQ, analysis and conclusions are going to be right.

>>50596597
>Wait why is GDP down?
The worst part is GDP is currently artifically propped up like crazy by inflation, and it's still not enough to stay in the green..
We are so fucking fucked beyond comprehension lol.
Winter is comingerino.

>>50596153
priced in

>>50601186
What do they do?

>>50596153
Exit liquidity

>>50603713
This

>>50596153
The problem is you are impatient. It’s way down from the heighs and it’s not going back above there

>>50596153
You let Jews control your financial system and they will bankrupt it. How many times do white people need to learn this lesson?

>>50596243
>Economic warfare against the us citizens. Couldn’t be anymore obvious now.

They were naughty Goys for electing Trump.

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>there are still retarded bobos who don't understand what's happening
the dollar is toast
bye bye, bagholders

>>50596243
Bitch needs to be hung publically.

>>50596153
>transition
The fuck is it transitioning to beside shit?

>>50596153
Its clear that the financial system is circular. It can never break unless rulemakers decide it will.
The only thing thay can make everythinf go back to reality is a physical breakage in the system - gas, food, electricity etc.

>>50596283
I've been 3 fucking weeks to get the fuck out of here but somehow everything keeps giving me a reason to stay in this hellhole, the current one is that my fucking qom bags are dying of ligma

As long as they keep printing there is no stopping this groovy ride. Get on and shut the fuck up.

>>50601102
This. We are literally at the mercy of these companies to survive more than ever. That and the government are total corporate whores and keep printing them free money.

>>50596153
bag dumping

>>50599482
>>50599535
>le fox
>le shapiro
>le christian right
jesus lmaooo

>>50604268
>hung
damn stupid GILF futa... we should castrate her...

>>50604928
Printing money still matter and will cause a heavy inflation which we are already experiencing for the past months. No wonder we are going to be a bust tranny economy soon if this continues. Kek.

Inflation is good because it means crypto will be worth more dollars.
What do you mean that is cancelled out be the dollar's purchasing power? The number on the chart is all that matters.

>>50605188
It will only be good if the market goods prices won't go high as well, but that won't be the case at any point. I'm already done with FIAT, crypto is the future so I'm going all in with this bullshit-like economy.

>>50605273
buying ltc or xmr? kek

>>50605356
Not buying outdated tokens like what jeets normally do, I'm much more interested to buy KOLnet on MEXC instead and have some superstaking on DAFI with a decent return. Life's still good at this point.

ugly fucking kikes

>>50605356
Yes, I'm all in on Litecoin

>>50597404
>Technicals are completely different.
To be fair no one technical is ever the same as another due to their non-standardized manufacturing process, so yes you are correct.04gtrh

>>50596153
Why did the stocks go up after the US announced they would stop with the gold standard?

Stocks are increasingly becoming a hedge against the collapse of fiat

>>50603713
The Fed is printing liquidity. They can make as much liquidity as they want and are doing so. They’re maintaining the balance sheet at about $8.9 trillion. ECB is printing and you gotta know China is printing. They can print forever as long as the plebs take them seriously and value cash. It’s literally that simple. They may stave off another crash a la 2020 simply by printing and keeping everyone shit-scared of… whatever.

>>50604625
Ligma?

>>50602885
HEDGE FUNDS LEAP OFF BUILDINGS, THERE WILL BE NO BAILOUT FOR THEM

>>50605806
Ligma balls fagget

>>50596153
T R A N S I T I O N A R Y

>>50605714
Wrong. Since they are denominated in fiat you loose purchasing power as fast.

>>50596279
>Don't worry, it's just the Chinese selling to pay for gifts for Chinese New Year!

>>50605790
how many wild-picked blueberries would you bet on a shit the bed moment in the normie stock market making them leave right before they let inflation really rip and take the market up with it forever-pricing out the normies?

>>50605975
Gotta get everyone owning nothing somehow

>>50596153
because s&p 500 always goes up after x years

>buy discount now at near-0 risk if you're investing for longterm
>hope for a bigger dip and risk missing out.

money will always funnel into stocks, who cares if the next 6-12 months look rough, buyers are thinking 5+ years

>>50596153
Why wouldn’t they go up again you fucking retard?

>>50597104
>>50597135
>No recession (that is most likely)
>I take confidently the other side of this bet anon
At least I got my bet right

>>50601147
Baboon chimp banana eater