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One minute till shit.

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

Green crab day

im going back to bed. this was not worth getting up early for.

MMTLP WHERE ARE YOU GOING

metals are mooning

>>52786357
Tranny steel is making me rich as we speak

This thread is fucking slow

90% of all submachine gun posts are spastics crying about their grandma baking cookies before dinner

Thank you, OP. If even 10% of smg was as heroic as you, the world would be free of jewery. Bake on, Brüder.
>Verification not required.

>>52786379
start reporting people that make threads too soon then

up or down bros

>>52786343
Yfw VIX chart

so is the 'BANG BANG' anon stuck in traffic or what? This is not acceptable.

/OJ gang rise up

>>52786343
Look again

Not looking good USO chads

> from +0.6 to -0.1 %

Kek baggies

Oil Barons stand up!

Are wh*te wo*en bullish for CHWY?

>daily dump and pumps

Boy I can’t wait for this entire dump to get wiped out in 5 minutes by completely normal market movement

Did everyone really get heemed this hard?

BUDDY LOOK AT US10Y

>>52786427
Obviously the overload of bobos weren't kidding, when they said they were going to continue to go short...

>>52786427
SOXL_shill and the Lum poster ruined a lot of people. S in chat for SOXL trannies.

>>52786318
Oil bros is it time to dump our bags or should we buy more

WHOA BLACK BETTY

>>52786442
She's definitely gonna drown her kids

Imajin buying anything when recession has not even hit yet. Bunch of clowns the lot of you

>>52786442
stay strong SOXL ladies

>>52786472
No one cares ESL faggot.
>>52786476
Lol if you blindly buy SOXL regardless of the economic environment, then fuck you.

>>52786472
1. The real world lags on the financial market
2. Recession = downward pressure on interest rates and QE

>>52786472
The market is forward looking and we started the recession last summer, hermano.

Hate when line goes down :(

Delusionals

I FUCKING HATE CRABS
CRABNIGGERS GET THE ROPE

>>52786492
Last quarter was positive

I always listen to the first five minutes of this youtube show's headlines to see if there's any economic data coming out; I think a lot of idiots here could save themselves frustration if they did the same and didn't blame market movement on unnatural forces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIRrt_tTviQ

Are you represented by the best of our Americans?

>>52786513
But what about the quarters before that?

>>52786519
>open window
>see nigger
>close window
Fuck you nigger

>>52786532
The next quarters are more important

>>52786539
>Look out the window
>Squirrels grabassing in a tree

>>52786529
I look more like the arms dealer than the nigger

So are we crabbing hard as fuck all month because basically everything is tiptoeing around near the 200 dma and algorithms aren't sure which direction to go? I'm actually pretty amazed by how precisely everything keeps bouncing around between the bounds on RSI

OIL something
zerocovid ending something
china something
winter something
contango something

Never traded options before, and I want to make sure I have something correct before I try it.On a Call with a strike of 10.5 and a Limit Price of 1.87, am I exercising the right to buy at the price of roughly 19 dollars? Or am I mistaken?

>>52786442
Bullish for beatings. Where the fuck is the father?

>>52786561

>>52786594
This market is one giant endorsement for TA after we’ve hit so many things to the penny. It is disgusting

Enough.

>>52786611

>>52786594
calls are unsecure, dont know why. three days with good news and dxy going for price discovery to the downside and rate hike reduction pace. Its a bear trap by crabs

>>52786529
I would guess I am more aligned with the beliefs and values of the white guy. Why doesn’t this feel like a win?

We are in for at least a year of crab. Buy JEPI

C is trading at a P/Tangible of 0.56 or so.
Banks are notorious for this, but other GSIB banks like JPM and BAC are trading above book.
Doesn't seem like C is distressed like Credit Suisse, or is there something I'm missing?
Are markets pricing in a massive markdown?

buy now pay later

>>52786442
Yeah says the lady with $1000 worth of baskets on her wall. Boo hoo, she probably made her sons pee sitting down while they were growing up

What caused the rally today?

Reeeeeeee why is it recovering

>>52786611
look in this instance you're describing you would be paying $187 for the right to buy 100 shares at $10.50 each at or before the strike date.

>>52786717
nothing it'll dump and pump 2 more times today and end at +0.05%

MMTLP bros...

>>52786693
Peeing sitting down is better. Less splashback, and less risk of dribble falling outside the bowl.

>>52786693
I took the seat off one of our toilets when my son started walking as a precaution. Son pisses like a champ! #goodparenting/biz/

>>52786730
Why would you buy that, anon?
>>52786735
>Less splashback, and less risk of dribble falling outside the bowl.
Sounds like someone elses problem, m8.

Oh, looks like jobless claims were up. Bullish. Hopefully recession optimism can bring us back to ATH.

Bros...

>>52786735
>Peeing sitting down is better
No. No it’s not.

>>52786735
that's the gayest thing i've heard all day, and i already heard the fucking nigger ball player for arms dealer trade

>>52786717
They said jobless claims came in higher than expected but who the fuck knows. Seems like algro bullshit

>>52786735
you're making the low IQs seethe because you're right

>>52786730
You know when someone says they are all-in in some neverheard stock it's usually a scam, right?

>>52786784
Jobless claims higher is bullish. Recession soon which means ZIRP+QE SOON. MELTUP.

>>52786529
Just read that in the news this morning. Just shook my head in disgust. This is literally the worst administration in history. Hope the arms dealer sells some country the nukes that get dropped on America. Preferably sooner than later.

fuck this shit, i just sold my spxs bags. could have got out with a profit yesterday but held because for some reason i thought some random person posting korea pop star pictures could predict the market.

>captcha poops 2

>>52786529
>another intentionally harmful decision made for the purpose of humiliating america trotted out by dementia man's administration
it's all so tiresome

>>52786784
oversold algo rally.
recession is coming.
time to go, grab a coffee clean the house.
Tsla will burn, tsla 150 by end of year!
BURN IT DOWN
Also COFFEE GANG

>wash sale rules are there to distinguish long term investors from day traders to keep
>"Well I guess that makes sense-"
>it's a 30 day window before and after the trade
I'm going to become a day trader just to avoid this wash sale bullshit. And I'm going to use it soley to boglehead boomer invest

>>52786806
I mean it was like 5000 higher than expected. Market is just doing whatever the fuck it wants to do

Damn that 9:40 dip was tasty

And just like that I'm making money again!
I'm sorry!
I will not stop thought!

It's crazy how bullish the setup for the next few weeks is. PPI should be super bullish, CPI will probably be another 5-7% up day, FOMC super bullish. ATH by EOY is still within reach if there are no surprises.

>>52786823
But I cleaned yesterday?
>I am doing laundry now.

why the fuck is it pumping insiders have info on PPI?

>>52786806
Hell no XD
Al together down 15% before this all is over.
This will fade right away
so much crap is still to burn.

>>52786824
day trading works. 2000 profit vs 500 loss, makes 1500 in 3 days swinging on half percent 4 hour candles with tight stop loses and take profits

Santa rally baby
No brake on this train until 2023

>>52786807
I hope he turns around and floods rural white America with more weapons.

>>52786529
I hadn't thought about Viktor Bout for years. This feels so fucking staged, like a years-in-the-making boogaloo to keep the US-vs-Russia charade alive.

Mumutards... i kneel.

>>52786867
Floor and dishes for me...
stay stong

>>52786735
American masculinity is based on being as impractical as possible by driving manual in city traffic or pissing all over your bathroom floor because muh dick.

>>52786442
my kids will 100% go to a private school, I dont care if I have to life in a cardbox to be able to handle the cost. my kids will be normal.

>>52786863

>>52786886
Top signal

>>52786863
I'm beginning to think this as well. Followed by a nice fat new year dump

>>52786905
I'll sip to that.

>>52786726
I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, I just want a 2x. What does this mean and is it shit?

>>52786929
Soft landing (unironically).

>>52786910
>private school
Kek won't really help you there pal

wrong direction

>rates will go higher for longer
>POWELL SAID HE'S GOING TO PIVOT NEW ATH IMMINENT
>rates will go higher for longer
>GOTTA FRONT RUN THE PIVOT BRO THE FED IS PANICKING
>rates will go higher for longer
>DUDE READ BETWEEN THE LINES THE FED IS ULTRA DOVISH
>rates will go higher for longer
>DEPRESSION IS BULLISH FOR STOCKS TIME TO GO ALL IN ON AMC

>>52786903
Realistically both sides need him free. I’m sure the CIA was very pleased with this deal and may have even had a part in its conception.

guess ill just buy soxl for next weeks pump.

>>52786905
>>52786932
Fuck, wrong one.

>fed said more rate hikes are coming
>bulls think its over and rates might even come down
why do you guys walk into bear traps so often
they literally told you the future plans

>/smg/ crashing full throttle into 10:30 selloff

>>52786318
bear bros i dont feel so good

>>52786960
>>52786852
If you caught the soxl dip, it was an easy 5% gain

>>52786959
Based war understander

>>52786952
wtf is this physiognomy? Blood lust intensifies

>>52786998
It's all one big WWF match, brother.

>>52786973
Was it, anon? Or was that a Freudian Slip?

>>52786941
Youtube all of these things on your own.
When SOXL pumps next week, sell your options. Don't bother with exercising options.

>>52786955
It's easier to accept that we are mere observers. No matter how hard you try, you won't be able to predict market movement.

>>52786995
we're fine, the retards are making ATH calls by EOY again

>>52787009
Isn't the WWF 'fake'...?

>>52786909
>pissing all over your bathroom floor
If you can’t handle your dick properly than maybe you should have it cut off.

>>52787014
You mean Freudian sip.

>In all seriousness, Freud was an absolute degenerate.

i'm losing money but i will be enjoying a 50 cent double cheeseburger from mcdonalds for lunch

>>52786489
>>52786492
Beautiful cope

should i put my most of my shit in silver or should i split it up with gold?

>>52786985
Doesn't matter what they say now, recession will force their hand into ZIRP and mega QE.

>>52787031
Yes, but Vince still got fat stacks.

>>52787031
It’s more of an ironic metaphor

>>52787016
It's clear that the Fed won't pivot until the economy collapses. Stocks will not perform well in that environment. New lows are inevitable within the next few months.

so that was it then, that was the dump. next week is giga pump, then after FOMC maybe there will be another dump.

>>52787051
Gold to preserve wealth and maybe relocate. Silver to maybe make a profit

>>52786561
Love inverted color stock images

>>52787057
>Itt
>Kids don't understand Hyper Inflation

>>52787057
except we are still in a labor shortage so unemployment won't fall enough to trigger the "technically now its a recession" flag

>>52787051
Gold is more stable across all currencies. Silver is much more volatile. I have a 70Au:20Ag:10Pt ratio of my PMs.

>>52787031
Always been real

>>52787032
Not everyone has mommy to clean up his piss off the bathroom floor faggot.

>>52786529
We brought back an innocent american citizen. I dont think biden is a good president but if you disagree with this choice (bring back citizens in foreign captivity at any cost) you hate america

>>52787080
Don't get me wrong, I think long term our country is heading to a hyperinflation problem. It's how all empires die especially with our rising welfare state and debt interest

BUT

that's far fucking away. As of now the fed is fine saving face and "fixing" the inflation problem

>>52787080
Inflation is already over. We're heading into a deflationary environment now which should allow for TRILLIONS in QE to send the market blasting to ATH. Recession is the best possible outcome right now.

>>52787100
He brought back a tranny and left a military vet over there instead retard...

>>52787063
The fed had on correct already said they want a soft landing, not a total collapse.
Tech stocks are already down massively from their ATH during the post covid run. There will be a huge santa rally, then massive dump in 2023 where they will get their soft landing and then the golden bullrun will start again.
China reopening, war ending, energy crisis ending are all good news

>>52787117
>We're heading into a deflationary environment now

>inflation is still rising but slowed just a bit for the first time since this all started
>retards keep talking about deflationary fears
the ((fed)) really has you faggots by the balls huh? You fucking worship that printer

>>52787051
If you're going PMs, split it dollar wise 50/50 silver/gold, that gets you approximately pmg's recommended 100/1 oz ratio. Miners provide cashflow and leverage on the spot price if you want more risk/reward. Royalty streamers are also an option if you want to remove extraction costs as a factor (oil dumping benefits miners more for example).

>BILI
How much longer can this continue before anime becomes real?

>a little green
>all the reddit mumus come out
now all we need is the avataring bug scum

>>52786909
>because muh microdick
fixed
then there's the other dumb shit like "muh medium rare", "muh goyslop", "muh latest iphone"
i hate them so much bros

>>52787121
There was never any doubt that the lanklet ape troon never did anything wrong unironically and was just grabbed for swap purposes. The russians actually believe whelan spied on them. That being said theyre still negotiating for him

>>52787122
what is it with all those
>dont buy back now
>wait two more months
shill posters

>>52787121
good fuck zogbots

>>52787117
>fed rates way lower than inflation
>fractional reserve requirements still at 0%
>currency velocity can't go much lower
>inflation is over

>>52787135
>the ((fed)) really has you faggots by the balls huh? You fucking worship that printer
The printer is drives the stock market yes. Stock market growth without the printer would be zero

>>52787083
There are definitely too many jobs at this point. Jerome needs to work on pumping up those unemployment numbers.
>>52787117
Kek not even close. Groceries are still double the price they were pre-covid. We have a long way to go before we are out of this. Jerome needs to keep raising rates through 2024

>>52787100
>innocent american citizen
Quality troll post m8. But he's a convicted international drug trafficker.

>>52787063
We've been saying this for a year now. Despite the bad economic situation there has been no sharp crash and the bear market rallies are aggressive. To be honest I'm bored sitting on cash, but it has not dipped enough to buy in.

me in the middle

>>52787178
They aren't trying to lower prices, just reduce the rate of price growth. Prices will remain elevated relative to 2022 but will grow at a much slower rate. Then we PRINT and PUMP.

>>52787180
Now THIS is the inflation we need.

>>52787122
>soft landing
Won't happen. The world economy is dependent on ZIRP + QE. Now we have 5%+ FF terminal rate and a Fed that wants everyone to be poor.

>>52787178
there are too many bullshit jobs i.e. meta and twitter millennial diversity hires
there is huge demand for genuine stem jobs
especially since everyone is realizing the outsourcing to poo's costs more than it saves

>>52787051
don't buy any miners or mining stocks
just don't
buy as much silver as you can afford and then just wait for the gsr to start shitting itself when gold gets revalued then move all of it back to gold
that's what most of /pmg/ /setf/ is doing

Imagine doubting the globalist american empire (GAY)
>bombs nordstream destroying european industry
>exacerbates ukraine war rattling europes economy
>raises interest rates to buck break the world worst than us
the economy will go to shit but the world take a bigger raping than us

>>52787092
its not a real sport if draft kings doesn't allow you to bet on it, and they let you bet on shit like fucking soccer and ping pong ffs.

>>52787204
>buy silver
>dont buy the profitable part of the industry
>wait
>>>/pol/ jidf

>germany is set to have 60% of its energy grid composed of "green" aka 95% wind and solar
>by 2040 this is going to be a 100%
>the average solar panel and wind turbine even with good maintenance lasts barely 25 years
>this doesn't count natural disasters
>on average germany is going to have to replace their ENTIRE energy grid 4 times a century
I can't wait to see this unfold

AEVA

>>52787194
>They aren't trying to lower prices, just reduce the rate of price growth
this
"inflation is slowing down" does not mean we are getting deflation aka reduced prices

>>52787194
If they aren't actively trying to lower the price of groceries than nothing else really matters. Raise rates, lower rates, who the fuck cares if youry still laying $250 for a cart of groceries?

I fat fingered a trade. Do I just buy TQQQ now?

>>52787221
silver fags are just crypto fags with less liquidity change my mind

>>52787221
go ahead and do what you want, buy miners and then hold those bags for a looong time kek
glhf
one gigantic faggot named hedgeless horseman has been posting videos literally daily for like 3 years crying about his gdxj bags

>>52787217
DraftKings doesn't allow horse racing, does it? I fucking love betting on horse racing.
>>52787221
Naw, miners are super volatile, and can be subjected to mismanagement. Safer with just strictly PMs.

>>52787228
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not in a particularly good mood this morning due to the Biden tranny swap, and I'm not going to tolerate goblina posting. You've been warned.

>>52787230
As long as the "it's the supply chain! Now the 25% of all dollars in existence printed in two years!" fags have finally shut the fuck up I'll be happy

>>52787229
It's all about price growth and stability. Once inflation is back at 2% (deflation is more likely) then the printer goes back on because stocks going up is imperative for the US economy. ZIRP will be back by EoY '23.

>>52787228

>>52787224
it wont.
that might be the installex power, but not whjat we actually get. The real numbers arer muuuuuch lower but the lunatics in government dont care.

>>52787233
>Do I just buy TQQQ now?
Do you think now is a good time to buy TQQQ?

>>52787233
Yes.
Inflation number will be down and the data will be bullish
50bps is almost guaranteed next week and the market will giga pump

>>52787245
Has nothing to do with each other. The silver shit has been a gme tier astro turf shitshow by very specific hedgies who are paying a bunch of unironically indians pennies to shill the dirt

just funny they come to /biz/ and try to talk people out of the profitable part of the industry

SIRS, why is google not moving with the market today ?

who the fuck is buying

>>52787277
Now is a GREAT time to buy TQQQ unironically.

>>52787285
that's what i was just saying, lot of buying volume up here

>>52787258

Pokimane is a goblina? She is a solid 8/10 minimum

You are just a mad tranny

Ywnbaw

>>52787291
Right now? You think that right now is a great time to buy TQQQ?

>>52787260
>25% of all dollars in existence printed in two years
more like 50%...

>>52787297
>8/10 minimum
nigga no

>>52787301

>>52787313

This is 8/10 you are tripping bro

as long as morocco is in the world cup pokiposting is allowed

>We're back to goblinaposting

>>52787313
>bad angle
>bad clothing
>needs to RDL and glute bridge more
I can fix her, bros...

I'm locked loaded and set for the recovery. The semis rocketship will take me to Mars in 6 months.

>>52787327
>Hottest pictures of pokimane

Somebody show this retarded simp what she looks like without makeup instead of cherrypicked selfies.

>>52787329

I like how AEVA + Pokigoon has derailed the thread completely

>>52787327
>8/10
maybe you need to go outside more faggot

Guys please stop posting women, even the ugly goblina ones
I'm at NNN+7 and don't want to stop

>>52787301
Yes. Tons of bullish events until the end of next week. I'd exit leading up to the FOMC though due to the massive volatility that comes with every FOMC

>>52787327
At least 3 of those points are the makeup she had caked on

another trap

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>52787340

how many bobos got trapped?

>oil green
>USO red

???

>back to goblina posting
/smg/ really does go full circle

buy high, sell higher

I’m scared bros

>>52787346
>NNN bro
You better also have O

sell when the goblina posters come back

>>52787368
Oil is about to go red. Started selling off around 9 am, right on schedule.

>>52787364
>> bobos trapped

none. We will going down further, just a small oversold correction and next leg down.

>>52787204
i mostly buy etf of a pm instead of a specific sector as i eat too much of a retard to do research on every part of the industry. pretty sure it's not a bad idea, maybe not the best, but not the worse

>>52787297
She's a 3/10 on a good day.

>>52787322
>>52787347
1) My ID is the reverse of tq
2) I forgot you are all investors here. I'm a trader so I only see max two hours into the future.

Very nice. Now post your "queen" without her makeup.

FYI, queers, that X/10 shit is homo.
You'd either fuck it or you wouldn't.
Your dick doesn't know the difference between a 6 and a 9.

>>52787437
yes it does

>>52787437
yes it does my dick is harder for a 9 than a 6

>>52787437
>Your dick doesn't know the difference between a 6 and a 9.
Spoken like someone who has only been with 6's...
t. Been with 4s and 9s

>>52787408
just buy physical desu
the whole premise of /setf/ is that the price won't reflect reality until the paper manipulation breaks and there is a short squeeze on the etfs and if that happens, there's speculation that they will force trading to halt on the etfs or some other jewey shit and just not pay out, similar to how the LME just sharted when the nickel price sqoze the shorts of some chinese faggot (named Big Shot kek) with links to the LME

What makeup companies should I go long on?

Why the fuck did oil just giga pump then giga dump?

>>52787437
>mfw pokimane actually shows up to /smg/ to try and defend herself
Hi poki you skinny fat whore!

>>52787437
It literally does you fucking virgin. It is harder/takes longer to get it going and nut for a 6 than it is for a 9 and if it you don't know this it means you've never been with anything above a 6.

>>52787474
Left - 7 / Right - 4

>>52786666
>We are in for at least a year of crab. Buy JEPI
>666
Yes Satan

>>52787482
YOU. JUST. KNOW.

>>52787477
Because allah arakbar

>>52787481
Yes, I am Pokimaine bby send simp money to my account pls

>>52787482
Imagine the smell from the dogs perspective

>>52786959

yup. gearing up for more sideshow wars. Vik is far too useful to keep in a cell.

why should I buy JEPI instead of voo?

>>52786483
I just bought some SOXS.

>OIL's retraced its entire move

Crazy how SOXL is outperforming TQQQ
I thought the 9bil Jedi fund would have giga pump the tech stocks instead of just semis

>>52787526
Because divy fags are a cult

>>52787535
bottom signal

>>52787523
It would probably smell like an AQB farm

>>52787540
I work for a major semi tool OEM and demand has never been higher
no slowdown in '23 either

>>52787535
This >>52787547
Just bought SOXL calls based on this data.

Well, I just loaded up on weekly SPY puts. Time to do or die bobros.

>>52787526
Because JEPI outperforms in crab and bear markets. The nearly 1% monthly dividend yield combined with low beta make it good for this kind of market. You may not want to hold JEPI in the long run, but considering current market conditions, it is a good bet to outperform in the short to medium term.

>>52786941
As someone who is also learning options and anxious for some gainz, STEP AWAY. If you are that level of confused, which I was as shortly as within the last couple of weeks, then the two and only things you should be doing are studying learning materials, and PAPER TRADING.

THIS IS FINANCIAL ADVICE

>>52786941
If you don't know what you're doing you shouldn't be trading options. You know they expire right? And you can lose your entire investment... Also please look up assignment and pin risk if you're going to trade spreads.

This pump is both fake and gay.

>>52786941
Let me guess, Robinhood?

>>52787629
So would a 90/10 voo/jepi be ideal?

funny and cute little pump you had here mumu, but it's time to face reality (again)

New Latina just dropped, sorry Fatimane and others, this is a Xochitl board now

OH GOD I THOUGHT THE DUMP WAS OVER

I am mentally exhausted. Stock goes from 3 dollars to 5 dollars back to 3 dollars in the span of a week.I go from being up 8 percent to up 50 percent back down to being up 9 percent. It’s 3 fucking days. Why can’t stocks just be normal. Why do I hold like a greedy lil bitch
>AND WHEN WILL THE BOGGS CALL TO POOMP IT?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>52787051
I have 100 oz silver for every 1 oz gold.
I wish the ratio was closer to 50:1 or even 25:1.

>>52787704
Lol cope. You've felt the bottom, bobo.
>>52787728
>posts a tranny
We're not fags, here.

>>52787682
>So would a 90/10 voo/jepi be ideal?
Right now JEPI is a better bet than VOO because we're in a bear market and things are going to get ugly. When the market dumps JEPI will lose less value because it holds value stocks and it has a huge dividend from call options.

A better bear market option than VOO/JEPI is 50-50 BIL/JEPI. Risk free money from BIL combined with stable companies and a big dividend from JEPI. But you should wait until this bear market rally ends to purchase JEPI. Don't purchase the top.

I legitimately can't find a reason for oil to have giga dumped after it giga pumped.

>>52787739
ITS JUST STARTING
THE BUSSY BEARS WERE RIGHT
HAHA

>>52787752
>I legitimately can't find a reason
How new are you?

>>52787662
There is literally nothing wrong with payment for order flow.

>>52787752
Remember the spazzout over the Russian crude embargo? Keystone on the fritz is the same deal. No fundamental supply/demand changes, just some rerouting that'll disrupt things for a very short time.

Tactically, that spike as people digested the headline also forced any shorts to cover that were willing to cover and gave any doubtful bulls a golden exit.

>>52787752
oil is the the most manipulated market ever, second only to PMs
and really commodities in general but I digress

>>52787752
>constantly pondering on retarded questions
you're going to be a failure in life

>>52787752
Fake news induced demand destruction. It's a ridiculous concept but it works.

Safe banking act will not pass. NDAA will not pass. The omnibus bills are over. Fuck my life. Fuck you guys. Things aren’t low enough to buy but everything is dumping as if 3 months of mid term shill profits just vanished like ftx

>>52787849
>NDAA will not pass.
Sauce? I find it hard to believe congress wouldn't support Are Troops.

>rally led by the NASDAQ fizzles out and crashes

Every fucking time. I don’t know why you guys believe NASDAQ rallies on no news because they’re fake as shit. DOW rallies are the only ones that sustain

>>52787752
>not just checking the oil futures page on Google Finance which features multiple articles
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CLW00:NYMEX?window=YTD

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/what-happened-2022-global-oil-rally-2022-12-08/

>>52787858
When walker lost the repubs went into full retard mode.

>>52787859
It wasn't on no news, it was on a bullish increase in jobless claims implying lower terminal rates, and ZIRP+QE sooner.

>>52787858
The only thing you can guarantee about our government is both Republican and Democrat will always support the military industrial complex.

What should be my profit target on a swing trade? I usually pussy out at +10%.

>>52787849
>NDAA ever not passing
You're funny anon

>>52787893
Oh excellent. As Biden said, the senate doesn't need any more nigger bigshots.

>>52787751
Or just consider treasury bills. Risk free easy money to ride out the bear market

>>52787899
Meeting expectations for jobless claims is ok, but the market has to do better if they want a real rally. We’ll chop around in this range until the CPI report comes out on Tuesday. God help us if it’s higher than expected and Powell has to do another 75 bps hike

>>52787869
Note that like a lot of >futures quote sources, Google's value is on a 10 minute delay.

Also another good news source is also just searching the #OOTT tag on Twitter. Someone will usually retweet or tag big oil headlines within seconds or minutes.

>>52787899
the fact that part of the bull thesis is still ZIRP+QE lets me know we haven't even begun to bottom

>>52787849
If you think we won’t keep giving billions to the MIC and defending Israel you are delusional.

That’s the one thing both sides agree on doing.

>>52787848
>>52787869
I'm specifically talking about today.

When the crash is over, will shitcos and crypto and high beta in general outperform the market and the boomer stocks?

>>52787935
That bull thesis has worked since 2008. The printing press is the ONLY thing keeping the market going up.

>>52787747
If you cant tell where this chart is going then I cant help you mumu

Oil bros. ?!!!

>>52787947
Of course. Once the Fed bring back ZIRP+QE, you want to be overweight crypto and profitless, productless tech. Crypto probably will be best in 2024-25 though.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I FOMOD INTO THE RALLY AND NOW IM GETTING HEEMED NEXT WEEK BETTER FUCKING BE GREEN

>>52787954
>The printing press is the ONLY thing keeping the market going up.
Yes, and the printing press is now out of order. It won't come back until the economy collapses. The Fed is serious about "higher for longer until you're poor"

>>52787972
I love seeing oil princesses btfo almost as much as SOXL trannies
>OIL.
Kek

>>52787972
i'm slurping the dip all the way into 2024
https://youtu.be/Myw6MgZLAac?t=91

>>52787985
>PPI bullish Friday
>CPI mega bullish next week
>FOMC mega bullish next week when JPow implies further reduction in the rate of hikes (and in reality, QE+ZIRP are coming soon) as progress has been made on inflation
Yeah next week we may be up 10% in a few days. DO NOT BE SHORT NEXT WEEK.

>>52787980
You don't get to AAAApost about a ticker whose chart looks like a broken oscilloscope.

>>52787752
There's obviously some liquidation happening in the futures contracts before year end.
It's been going on for days now.

You can either frontrun this, or you can complain like a little bitch as your positions go against you. 30 days from now, it'll probably be back at $80 regardless.

>>52787978
Why 24-25

>>52788006
>higher for longer
>rates not yet restrictive enough
>until the job is done
>5%+ FFR is needed
>terminal rate will be higher than the market expects
>we will keep hiking even if there is a recession
>we will overtighten to avoid the dangers of undertightening
>there will be pain
Absolutely none of that translates into "QE+ZIRP are coming soon". It's not coming back until the economy is really messed up.

Oil?

>>52788046
They may wait until Europe breaks

>>52788031
Personally I want to believe the meme that retard hedge funds who got heemed on tech thought they could windowdress by buying the top of energy at the last minute. Pure pottery.

> OIL

KEK BAGGGIEEEEEES, HOPE YOU DIDNT LONG AT THE TOP OF THE SCAM PUMP

>>52788046
Reminder that the Fed can pivot on a dime. In 2021 they "weren't even thinking about thinking about raising rates" for most of the year and inflation was transitory! Another 2020-esque QE package with ZIRP is coming sooner than you think.

>>52788040
Probably assuming that is when rates will be lowest.

>>52788070
Gotta hedge those losses with.. more losses.

>>52788017
I bought the top though…..

>>52787954
The regime is changing. There are a lot of factors that people who have only known the post-2008 universe are failing to factor in.

There is worldwide deglobalization occurring. That is highly inflationary as jobs are onshored to countries that actually pay their workers and will increase the share of capital going to workers, which will suppress stock valuations. Plus the highly inflationary aspect of it requires that rates be higher.

There is a push in first-world countries toward "green technology" - again, highly inflationary as it is economically more expensive than dirtier technologies. This will crush companies that have profited for decades by exploiting the uncaptured negative externalities of cheap dirty fuel sources. It will slow global growth as the cost of energy will increase.

There is the lack of population growth due to declining birth rates, and lower labor participation rate. Fewer workers will decrease growth, potentially even causing stagnation. Even people who are employed don't have real jobs anymore, they just sits in their comfy office being paid a UBI called a "desk job". The emperor has no clothes.

The only hope for the market to continue to go up is progression in AI technology which can mitigate all of the above via massively increased productivity. This will be a huge boon to the market. But it will also put millions of workers out of jobs and create a political demand for something like UBI, create widespread worker disenfranchisement, depression, and probably lead to widespread societal collapse as the human regime ends and the machine regime begins.

>>52788073
They pivot based on how the economy and stock market reacts and they are always late. They tried raising rates starting in 2016 but later pivoted when the stock market dumped. They weren't thinking about raising rates in 2021 until they were forced to admit that inflation was out of control. They will stick with their "higher for longer" narrative until the world economy snaps and we find ourselves in a global depression.

>>52788040
Crypto always follows a 4 year cycle, it's probably due to a liquidity cycle rather than the halving though.

>>52788087
Rates are going to zero and staying low forever. This is the long term historical trend.

>>52788108
No it's not. Inflation is over. Green tech shit has been abandoned already. Population growth will be mitigated with mass African immigration. AI etc. stocks will do well but it doesn't matter if everyone is out of a job as a result. Jobs are only relevant insofar as they affect QE expectations. All that matters is the printing press.

>>52788129
>Rates are going to zero and staying low forever. This is the long term historical trend.
AHHHAHAHAHAHAAAA

>>52788074
>Der Dämonenjude

>>52788106
>Anon buys at $0.00/share
>Still loses money

>>52788157
You're going to be in tears watching TQQQ, shitcos, etc. lead the rally to new ATHs next year, crypto will join in in 2024.

>>52788106
>>52788166

>>52786318
Troonsbros, I've been on standby mode (deleveraged) since this year started. Is now the right time to go all in again?

>>52788189
Talking ofc about troonware e.g. MSCI NVIDA ASML ADBE etc

>>52788166
Imagine everyone that longed oil at 0.00 in April 2020.

New

>>52788235
>>52788235

>>52788129
I think you're failing to look further than what's right in front of you. The IRA (and I'm sure there will be similar bills in the future) is going to be hugely inflationary, to an extent similar to the New Deal. Mass African immigration will further fuel The Great Sorting which will eventually lead to Balkanization and the end of the United States. Economic growth fueled by cheap money is going to come to an end because we cannot afford for money to be cheap anymore and there is no demand for it.

>>52788247
>The IRA (and I'm sure there will be similar bills in the future) is going to be hugely inflationary, to an extent similar to the New Deal.
It's just a spending bill. It's a nothingburger.

>Mass African immigration will further fuel The Great Sorting which will eventually lead to Balkanization and the end of the United States
It won't. it'll just make the US into a shithole but that's great for the market if it means more printing.

>Economic growth fueled by cheap money is going to come to an end because we cannot afford for money to be cheap anymore and there is no demand for it.
Who said anything about growth? I simply disagree with you that easy money is ending. Easy money will be the new normal.

>>52787932
Thanks, I've been paying more attention to what is and isn't real time since discovering E*TRADE doesn't show realtime unless you have your account funded with a minimum of $1000, which makes even their paper trader useless to me.

>>52788352
Uh, if you don't have $1000, I unironically suggest pic related

I guarantee we will pivot soon. Prepare yourselves for the golden bull run.

>>52788414
I'm 50 years old with a health issue that keeps me unable to public, and was already ruined by Great Recession and have spent years living in a tent. Sometimes solutions are not so simple. I'm trying to figure out a way to survive within my circumstances/means.

>>52788944
hope things work out for you man
/smg/ probably isn't the place for you for now though
you need to ask somewhere like /adv/
these faggots here are shitposters mainly

>>52790134
It's been pretty excellent so far. The key is not taking things at face value. I have mined lots of very worthwhile data, like learning about options (that they are a thing at all, and doing deep study on my own from there, just to add another potential tool to my future approach), the notion of swing rather than day trading, many terms that I've learned, lots of things that are leading me deeper into learning *where* and *how* to watch for and get a sense of the flows of the markets...the underlying principles/causes/mechanisms/etc. Coming here has resulted in an exponential expansion of my knowledge, even if largely "indirectly" (though often as at least a direct stimulus).

There are some brilliant people here, and there are some retards...I have learned a lot from both.