/biz/ - Business & Finance

She has the posture of a journeyman boxer

>>55258294
She's just like me

>>55258294
>effectively work 10hours/week
>get 60k yearly
>not learning anything and neeting most of the time
Its literally that easy.

Guys how do I learn to code and which language do I start with

Please help

>>55258376
Start with python and use YouTube videos and ChatGPT to teach you.
ChatGPT is amazing for this

>>55258376
Top DIRECTIVE and do not let any other english words lead you astray!

Come up with a project that would need code.

Decide you want to accomplish something that requires you to learn to code. This is the best way to stick with it, because you can generally accomplish some of your goals with simple code, but to actualize your imagination means you have to learn more and more.

If you don't have any ideas that need code to be accomplished, you aren't just gonna "learn to code"... That's like saying "How do I learn to make videos?" without having an actual story to tell through video.

>>55258294
i want to see her nude

>>55258382
what do you focus on making or working on when you learn python?

>>55258376
Find the best courses on udemy, find it on a search torrent engine, download it, and do it entirely. Also, you want to have some diploma or qualifications, when you are good enough try to find some sandwich courses where an enterprise will pay your diploma. There is a lot of that in Europe.

>>55258294
I'm learning the same things. I've been delaying since 2018/19. But now I'm finally doing it. I hope I'm not too late

>>55258424
You also going for data analyst jobs?

>>55258294
Fridges everywhere be mad jealous

>>55258382
>>55258421

Thank you guys for the advice.
>>55258398
this is good advice as well. I will ask ChatGPT what I will be capable of making with python because I have little concept of what is possible with the language.

>>55258307
Kek

>>55258376
C, books from MIT, youtube videos and math books

>>55258294
I learned to code on Codecademy, applied to a few jobs, and now I earn $125k as a Senior Software Engineer. It's just that easy.

>>55258566
Based coder bro.

>>55258566
Shit like this would never fly here in Europe. You'll be lucky to earn 40k in a year in the same situation.

What the fuck, she is so CUTE!

<3

>>55258376
>Guys how do I learn to code and which language do I start with
You can start by learning the English language pajeet, let me fix it for you.
>Guy's how'd me learn to code and whose language does me start with
you are welcome.

>>55258840
Good thing Europoop is not relevant.

>>55258921
How come this board is so American centered?

>>55258376
poor machamp. someone help this man up

>>55258376
>Learn to code
>2023

Anon.... Please don't be this retarded, there's 20 year experience FAANG workers who got laid off and are applying for the sole developer position at uncle Marty's roofing company because they are down bad for any work.

Choose a sector that will be of the "next big thing", learn to code in 2023 is like saying "move to Houston and get a job in oil" but in 1996 instead of 1986, sure the jobs are still there, sure it will "never" go away, but it's not what it used to be and likely never will again. Most people here can't even fathom making 6 figures in the 80s and how wealthy that made you. I wasn't even alive then but I have the perspective of knowing what a boom and bust looks like and learn to code is absolutely about at that moment. The one where we say "yeah it's important but let's stop acting like everyone is gonna work as a "coder" like we thought everyone was gonna work in oil"

Yeah coder bros slow down nobody said your industry is gonna up and disappear but let's be honest, the wild growth, the 650k TCs where you are paid that much to fart and pet your dog. That shit is definitely over and being phased out as I type this. Don't ask me ask Jared, a 52 year old tech worker with 22 years of experience as various titles, who now works for uncle marty.

>>55258566
I have a computer science degree and had multiple portfolio projects and it still took me like a year after graduation to find a job making $60k

>>55258294
real life samus aran

>>55259055
I have a CS degree and work in finance, consider branching out at whatever company you work at, get involved with anything that has to do with the balance sheet. I started as a code monkey but quickly found my passion and thankfully a well connected coworker sent me down the right path to get here.
The problem is everyone and their mother is a CS grad now

>>55259078
Kek

>>55259055
>I have a computer science degree and had multiple portfolio projects and it still took me like a year after graduation to find a job making $60k
This is how it actually works in the real world. "150k starting salary" is an internet larp meme that doesn't actually happen in the real world.

t. CS degree also

>>55258376
Rust. Just follow the Rust book, dunno what it's called but it's literally the main book.

>>55258294
Oh shit this is literally me

>>55259169
It works if you brown or a tranny

>>55259004
It's an American website dumbass.

No you didn't you retarded faggot.

i feel like CS might be too oversaturated
i mean if you were good at it since age 15 then yeah prolly go for it but i don't think any company is gonna pick a 30yo guy who got pretty good through internet courses.

>>55258376
if you want to get good at it look up mit ocw cs courses and go through them all. if you just want to learn the basics look up automate the boring stuff with python. ask your questions on /g/.

>>55258376
Well the first thing I would if I wanted to learn to code would be to purchase some thigh high socks, get a prescription for sex change medicine, and then cut off my penis

>>55258376
c++

>>55260138
they actually do that all the time if anything theres still a shortage of labor now even though ai is on the horizon

>>55258376
I can’t tell you what the deal is outside of my specialty and industry, which is data analysis for universities, but it seems to me like all of the low-level and mid-level stuff is pretty much automated. All of the demand is for “no code low code analysts” (women, minorities) or high-lebel statistical analysis, which is C++ and Python with a Master’s or PhD. More and more I feel like learning to code is not even worth the financial investment.

>>55259018
There is no next big thing. Everything has been sucked up by finance. Tech was a bubble for a time because it was a financial instrument for investment funds to speculate with. The cash flow is turning off and so are the are the tech salaries in turn. The opportunities now are basically in finance or else in the ultra-secure jobs for government and military.

>>55259169
It does work however it's the top 5% of CS grads. 99% of people don't post their salary online, because they make a normal amount and have no need to post it.

Normies also aren't online all the time and spending massive amounts of time maximizing salary.

>>55259083
I'm doing a bit better now. I graduated in 2017, for reference. The market was saturated even back then, let alone now. It's the worst at the entry level. I thought I would have stood out because I was one of those people who seemed to have a natural aptitude for it, high GPA, been coding as a hobby since age 12 etc. but even getting so much as an internship as a software engineer is competitive as fuck and I never landed one before graduation despite applying everywhere and making it to the final rounds with a couple companies

>do physics research
>it pays nothing
>switch for mech eng
>it pays nothing
>decide to get into IT because it seems like the only sector where I can make it
>spend months getting various cybersec and cloud certs since it's the most in demand field
>1 year later
>can't even get an entry level shit job in the field

>>55258294
> "omg so heres like, what ur gonna do, ok? uhhhh, here is like, my fone and u are gonna like, record me looking around like i am such a bitch, omg thats gonna be like sooo funnnyyy!"
If this was real, how come she never noticed the camera recording her? You're gonna look left and right like a schizo yet not look in front of you?

>>55258376
You don't.
The market is already saturated as it is now.
Learn to make sandwiches and build a restaurant.

>>55258376
Fuck off were full

>>55258294
>be me
>business admin bachelor's
>make 55k/yr
>get cdl
>make 100k/yr moving trailers around a truck yard
It really is that easy.

>>55258294
>Python
if you know python you should be pulling double that

>>55258307
seriously first thought I had was Keith Jardine.

>>55258294
Anons, I am in I.T currently over 1yr. Been getting a lot of joocy interviews way above what I am currently doing. No degree yet but in uni. Got some decent certs, no Comptia bs. Recently got pay raise but still under earning by a significant margin. Might get an increase in title potentially. Currently leading a team of 7 people on end-to-end deployment project for a client that our MSP obtained. I think my personality is really holding me back in the interviews because overall my skill set is almost 1:1 in regards to what the perfect candidate would be in reference to their expectations. I have been practicing a lot and have reasonably decent answers prepared for typical questions. I just get the feeling that I am not passing the “vibe-check” or they feel I am uniquely under and over qualified at the same time. Really weird situation.

>Any advice? Been struggling for awhile.

Most of these jobs would pretty much double my salary and the company would be a massive improvement so I understand such a big step is not easy but I feel like such an idiot to be struggling so hard.

>>55258840
Did the same thing as OP and I'm making 90k in Euros. If you're going to the bigger central European cities eg. Berlin you can get even more.

If you're comparing your Romanian salary to that of someone in Silicon Valley then yeah of course yours is going to look bad.

>>55260841
Are comptia bullshit certs ? Why ?
What do you recommend to get instead ?

>>55259018
I literally have an uncle Marty who has a roofing business. I don’t want to work for him though. I will not.

>code monkey
>posts retarded frogs and tiktok ragebait
Hopefully your kind gets genocided soon

>>55258294
lol omg disgusting look at this woman with rounded shoulders lmao even has she ever done a squat or deadlift once in her fucking life take a break from the low row bitch

>>55260931
Well, I will put it like this. Comptia doesn’t really teach you anything it’s valuable as in it sort of gets your feet wet but in terms of actually skills you just learn a ton of buzz words and really diluted concepts. This is the problem that I have with those type of certs. The issue that I am having is that they know my certs are better and I could easily do the job but that makes me look overqualified. Were as other jobs I may have the skills to do the position but my experience is really limited and I am sure I get dinged for not yet having a degree.

>In short I am getting really good positions, I have limited experience and no degree I pass the resume check but they I never get past first interview. Whenever I try to get just a simple help desk position, They realize they can’t sell me on how their company is so great and basically working in a call center is considered I.T since they are I have skills + experience to basically recognize it’s a shit position.

So, in some ways I wish I took Comptia because I would be doing better more but it would be harder for me to do better in the future. We’re as I am kinda struggling now but it is reasonably easy for me to do better.

>Not sure if I communicated this effectively so feel free to ask for clarification but that is my 0.02 cents since I think a lot of I.T career advice is given by idiots in low skilled positions and there isn’t enough exposure to ‘real’ I.T job market.

>>55259169
it does but its like the 1% of people that get into FANG or some top tier fintech business

how do programming languages differ based on what field you're looking to go into? Like I'm sure each field has it's own preferred language to use right?

>>55258294
It's not "that easy", I learned these a year ago and have built a portfolio and applied to at least 400 jobs with no success. Every job I apply to has hundreds of applicants within hours. I have a job doing something else so I'm fine with waiting but don't think it will happen instantly

>>55258294
she cute AF ong. I woud marry her without knowing her name

>>55259245
i am both of these, i should learn how to code then...

>>55262223
Depends on location. I have the same issue. 200 times, none. Lied and even made my resume more stacked. 200 more, none. I changed countries and applied, boom 2 dozen interview requests.
Tldr: don't live in Canada.

>>55260835
kek

>>55258294
i can relate to this

>>55258409
Start with small projects. Something like GoFish or a poker game with multiple people.
replit is a great website to start your projects. Plenty of recourses and it's an online IDE

>>55262631
thanks for the reply anon. im working through all the comments in the thread. gonna see if python learning is worth exploring.

>>55258294
She's more built than I am.

>>55258454
>what is possible with the language
What is not possible makes a shorter list

>>55258382
This. Begin by googling (YouTube search in this case) "how to learn with ChatGPT" or just ask ChatGPT itself. It can provide some beginner projects for you as well; something like "suggest 10 beginner projects in Python" will most likely be enough.

The best part about ChatGPT? You can provide your own examples after you think that you have understood the concept and it will either correct or validate your example. Something that regular search cannot do and very sadly not that many teachers cab do either.

And don't expect it to be EASY, be prepared to spend a lot of hours with it. You will pretty quickly figure out if you like it or not, and if you like it, time really flies.

Good luck.