/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>55329384
>subtle icp fud thread
go back to icpchads retard

>>55329411
Also the bots on this fucking board are ruining any serious convo. Muh go back, Muh fud, Muh scam. Fuck off.

>>55329384
>>55329384
>fuck these fake meme shit
the "fake meme shit" will vastly outperform your le fundamentals bags yet again

you just watched a retarded PEPE memecoin go from 0 to a billion mcap during a dead low volume crab market and you still haven't taken the clown pill? do you think people will become smarter and more rational once the bull run starts properly? fake meme shit and ugly jpegs will vastly outperform all of your assets yet again, take the clown pill

>>55329384
correct about everything except link
accumulate link, ignore everything else

That was a long convincing intro so you can shit on my holdings and shill what ever scam you want to shill

>>55329490
>accumulate an enregistered security

Brainlet here
Will my team (XMR) make it big in the future?

>>55329384
Crypto as an actual product failed. A decade later, it’s still exclusively used for crime and for speculation. It’s not practical for any real life transactions. NFTs tried and failed, and now they’re a punchline to make fun of people. The only major gains you’ll see is unfounded hype and speculation. You might as well go play the slot machines, because every winner like Pepe comes after a thousand rugs. Crypto is already dead, we’re just dancing around its corpse.

>>55329601
If it’s already in the top 50 you may as well hold BTC. The risk reward is shit.

>>55329625
Heard this for 3 cycles now. Welcome newfag to your first cycle.

I will give you newfags a clue. I won’t shill anything cause It will discount my man point. The big narrative will be Btc scaling and all what was built on ETH, ie NFT’s, defi shit moving to Bitcoin.

Tigris in Arbitrum is the only way

>>55329490
yes I think link can do a 40x over the next 6-7 years

>>55329637
I’m not new to any of this, and I made a lot of money on early Shib and Leash when they mooned, fully realizing that they had no actual value to anyone. The illusion of crypto having real world utility is dead, that doesn’t mean there won’t be gains to make here and there. People win money on the slot machines frequently.

>>55329384
>pic related
Democratisation always dumbs down things

>>55329665
You think quant has no value? You think L9nk has no value? You think at least attempts at scaling btc like ICP are worthless? At one point those were cheap. Crypto is 99.9% shit. But assuming there isn’t low cap gems is pure newfaggery. You are basically saying what I’ve heard in crypto for fucking years and years in very bear market. It’s dumb. Real decentralization isn’t a meme. Especially if it’s built on the base of BTC.

I guess you could just believe what the news tells you about btc and crypto if you want though.

>>55329665
You are new. Trust me. Shib was an engineered pump for newbies.

>>55329637
Wtf I never uploaded this selfie, where did you find it?

>>55329677
True. I agree. But in bear markets the NPC’s tend to leave and smart anons stick around. The market is getting progressively shit. But also in some angles there is serious money moving into where true value is. Defi and sealed btc payments etc is a fucking huge market and a real one. Shit will go mainstream through btc as a platform. The next bull will be bigger than the last.

>>55329625
The brain chips and tokenized smart cities are coming, you can bet on it

>>55329692
I was around when coss.io was new

>>55329684
They’re all useless from a practical standpoint. Mass adoption for every day transactions failed and it will never happen. There are gains to be made but it’s all bullshit and you all know it

>>55329601
here we go bitcoin
here we go
*thud* *thud* *thud*

>>55329489
Litterly posts after OP calls out bots. Kek

INDIAN WEATHER GOOD SIR.

>>55329650
That’s exactly what ICP is doing. Do you even research bro?

>>55329384
>in 2018-2019 It was fucking great because many of us had hope and were holding stuff that we knew would moon in the ‘Golden Bull run’ stuff like Fantom, Quant, Ocean, defi shit etc etc

all of that was useless crap. crypto had clearly already become gay since 2015. we should have created coins where you voted to control drones that executed high ranking government jews autonomously. decentralized drug cartels that controlled south american countries via daos and new types of biological weapons that killed jews. then crypto would have gotten somewhere.

OP is a terrible writer, but the real hopelessness is (or should be, I'm not invested so I don't give a fuck except to laugh at cryptlets) the fact that the top for BTC was a pathetic 3x of the previous top, and that five and a half years after that top, the price is still in the same vicinity (actually lower after inflation). The pattern of the first decade has been completely broken, all projections of muh geometric growth have dissolved. It's not happening, it's not going to happen, the time for this to prove itself has passed, the economic paradigm is now one that BTC and crypto has never had to work within before, and cryptokeks are still relying on ancient "it always comes back even stronger!!!" hopium.

>>55330043
Can’t say for crypto but BTC is working and will continue to flourish. The bottom of the last cycle was $6k kek. Back to your containment newfag.

>>55329384
Once again......GEEQ

>>55329384
>They already have billion dollar MC ffs. There aren’t gonna go 1000x u dumb faggots,

You managed to miss every key reason crypto is shit
>SEC regulation
>CEXs collapsing
>Consoooomer debt bubble at ATH already
>Hyperinflation snuffing the life out of disposable income

BTC only went to $69k from Alameda washing the books with extreme leverage which was never liquid. If you wanna blame any individual, blame SBF. Thanks to him, every normie has been exposed to the fact that major crypto CEXs can collapse. AAA celebrities and MLB empires all having FTX on their jerseys, shilling crypto on national TV and the largest niggerball stadium being owned by crypto dot com was the absolute pinnacle of the "media hype" phase.

Now, good luck getting big players to add liquidity when one of the largest on-ramps went under and the remaining ones are being held together by duct tape, with weekly SEC lawsuits getting barraged which will never stop for the end of crypto's natural lifespan. BTC being a 27k stablecoin while the NDX isn't even far from ATH is terrible news for the corn

I am also reddit spacing because this message is more important than anyone else's.

>>55330303
SBF's ugly face was literally on ads all over my city for months
this shit is toxic to most people now

>>55330043
agree

>>55329601
cammon crypto! cammon!

>>55329962
Disagree but based response all the same.

>>55330318
Sbf was a literal central bank campaign to keep the normies away from crypto and btc when it really will matter. Enjoy holding fiat as it turns to dust overnight.

GME, Elon, SBF and crypto.com ruined the last bull run. Honestly, it was peak stupidity. Alt season was never that bad.

>>55329384
You shut your whore mouth, Toad Killer solved the blockchain trilemma and will revolutionize finance, and you know it, you fudding fag

>>55331101
2 more weeks, unironically

>>55329384
I take it English iant your first language.

Also, zero mention of link when discussing 2018-2019

>>55330303
>this message is more important than anyone else's.
It's really not. Recycled FUD garbage with zero substance.

>>55329384
thats a lot of words to completely miss the point
back in 2019 the world still has a shred of normalcy and the markets and economy in general were doing well
right now we live in the biggest clusterfuck since wwII and there is uncertainty everywhere that results in a feeling of general despair as the normies finally realized everything they have been told about societys functies was a lie and subsequently go mad on this realization

it all doesnt matter, its now a certainty that fiat is going done the drains fast so get out into alternative systems, it has never been a more certain time to hold btc, its just that the predictability of the 4 year cycle is in question, so maybe no lambo come august 2025, but if your timeframe is beyond 2030 then yes all in crypto right now and every month dca in afterwards

remember the very moment they cyprus your bankaccount its over for you, normies will be capital controlled out of paying real personal walleted btc

>>55329384
>let’s find those gems

>>55329384
Kek seethe
Bought more chainlink

>>55333671
kek baggies

>>55333671
Very toxic af. Must you include LINK in every thread. Even BTC, ETH, MATIC or NXRA with real utility aren't shilled this extent.

>>55329650
Please don't tell me you are speaking of brc20?

>>55329875
Of course it will happen, it's darwinisme, just imagine all the new financial structures we can do. But because of the revolutionary power, it will take some time.

>>55329384
>Everything is boring as hell!
>muh meme token
>muh utility
>muh innovation
>All bullhit! It's all a money grab, banking on the last bull run momentum.
>Everyone is in a loop.
ae you the 1uck dev anon?
you sound like him

>>55333257
This is what people don’t understand. No matter what happens it’s fine to just DCA with a long-term outlook. Holding more than $10k cash is retarded, real estate will continue a slow crab then bleed as boomers die off, t-bills will go down as interest rates come back down, and boomerstocks will crab as boomers die off. So no matter what happens, crypto is still the best option available to gain and maintain wealth.

>>55329650
What about the DePIN narrative? It's blowing up all over social media. Don't want to spill the beans but chains like Solana, Peaq, and Iotx are being hailed as the pioneers for this stuff. It's still early days, but the potential is massive.

>>55329384
> if BTC does hit like 150k
It's a big if.
Looks like regulation is coming, too many crypto companies failed last year.
But the biggest problem is that stocks and bonds are now profitable cause macro conditions changed, it's bad vibes for crypto.
USA needs to die ASAP and stop manipulating the global market for crypto to prosper.
Whatever I will never sell BTC anyway.
>>55329433
>the bots
Just look how many frogs in the catalog.
>>55333257
>the normies finally realized
Nope, and they never will.
>its now a certainty that fiat is going done the drains fast
Fucking finally I'd add.

>>55329384
crypto was always a scam, from the start, it's just we didn't know it yet.

>>55335894
>Nope, and they never will.
then you are not paying attention close enough
sure they will never says so outloud but look at their actions they know deep down well enough

>>55335939

nice theory faggot. You got it all figured out. High IQ shit right here.

>>55336464
>look at their actions
They are still vooting.
They still condemn violence.
They still wageslave for corpos.
They still don't see anything wrong with ethnic replacement.
All the zoomer anger is being misdirect towards "trans rights" and "climate change" and they will find more misdirections in the future.
As blind as ever.

>55329625
This has to be bait, no Yous for you faggot
>no use case
Have you ever read the original BTC whitepaper? its literally 8 pages or so. The main reason crypto was invented in 2009 was because of 2008 as a response to traditional banking systems fucking up.
Crypto's main function is an alternative DECENTRALIZED wealth storage and transfer mechanism whenever shit financially hits the fan sometimes. It helps not having your wealth frozen.
I have been holding since 2013 and all of you fucks are and will always be stupid. The main reason I got into crypto was for it's cypherpunk culture.
Remember, not your keys, not your coins.
Get out of CEXs. They may be convenient, but they defeat crypto's original purpose. Use cold storage like paper wallets which are cheap but also filters out retards by making them lose your money.
I haven't visited /biz/ for months and it's still the same shit. I'm leaving this shit board now. We're still early because all of you niggers are stupid.

>>55329384
Yeah bro, early crypto was totally different than now, bbqcoin, filecoin, and dogecoin are definitely not memes and totally had real use cases. All the projects back then are totally still around now because they're so useful
You sound like a seething poorfag who couldn't even make it after being in crypto for 5 years, otherwise you wouldn't be looking for a hail mary lowcaps with $10k liquidity to 1000x your measly net worth.

>>55335939
It wasn't true fool. You missed the right plays and will always have the wrong perspective. See the likes of Cardano foundation, Tron, Allianceblock, Ethereum etc to understand the full potentials of blockchain and not Pepe, wojak, Doge etc. Every financial market got pro and cons, btw I got nothing to prove to tabularazer brain.

What if I were to tell you Crypto is not dead. But this Board now is. I’ve seen this board at peak alpha source. It’s fucked beyond all hope now. Ignore everything on here now. CT isn’t much better. It’s fucking brown handed third worlders with no fucking clue. I don’t have the answer to where the next home for good crypto info is honestly. I may make it myself.


I will leave you all with one crumb. Find out what Zenon does. Download the wallet and see for yourself if it’s a ‘scam’. No one can do the research for you.

>>55337712
>getting this emotional over some dude's opinion about the future of crypto
yeah, crypto is dead

>>55329384
Been here since 2018. I adapted. Dogbat 1b market cap eoy

I’m all in Vra personally

>>55329384
Dude I'm all in for FVM. I don't know if you've been keeping up to date as well but I'm absolutely fucking pumped for that shit to release. We're talking 2017 Ethereum pumps. The next golden bull run is going to be amazing and FVM will make EVM useless. I'm also really happy to come across this post. Absolutely spot on man. The vibes were real last bear season. Friends were made, people talking and getting down to the facts. Genuine debates on the meat and potatoes of what makes a project tick and why they're good investments, rather than shitty childish arguments. I've honestly stopped replying or posting because I've lost a sense of purpose in doing so due to said childish nonsense. If there's no genuine discussion to be had, I'd rather keep to myself with everything that I've learned. The problem is, I love groupthink, I love honest and open discussions, a sense of community, an open and non hostile environment. It's what made last bear season so freaking amazing. I don't care about meme coins. I care about real, solid, bold and rugged projects that are at the bleeding edge of technology. I'm still all in Fantom for very obvious reasons if you've kept up to date on everything. They're definitely looking at triple figures during the next golden bull run. If there are some other good gems out there then I'm down to buy a couple small stacks. Real projects only with solid white papers.

>>55329384
I'm reading through all of your comments and I know for a fact you've been there since day 1 like me. There's no denying that. Those who have been there know what it was like. Down to terminology used at the time. You're an og just like me and have seen the good times and the bad and you know what's up. I'm being dead serious: do you wanna be friends? I'm down to add you on discord or something like that. What do you think man? Went from California to New York and now I'm back in California (thank fuck)

>>55329962
There’s still time, anon, I would give up my hard earned shekels for that

Damn two people in this thread who are actually worth their shit and the thread goes dead. What the fuck. Thought I may have found a couple friends for once. Now I'm sad. :(

>>55329384
WAGMI.especially with projects like Fetch as they are working to extend their use cases by partnering with projects like Peaqnetwork. So, I expect to see things like intelligent parking stations and intelligent charging stations in cars, going forward. All decentralized, of course

>>55339303
How does a project like Fetch compare to Tron in the IoT sector?

>>55338784
I've been doing some research on Zenon. It sounds very larpy. The hybrid aspect doesn't make much sense either. They used to update via medium but haven't updated since pre 2021 golden bull run. Again, very larpy on their Twitter even, and using catchphrases for nodes/hosts etc. I've seen other projects do this and refer to nodes as 'sentinels' etc. I wouldn't hold my breath on this one, but if it's cheap, a suicide stack wouldn't hurt. Last medium article was may 1, 2022. Feeless nodes would be nice in a perfect world, but node hosts also need rewards to host (nothing is free). There are near-zero fee networks out there where node hosts still get hefty rewards though.

>>55338784
Remember that hot piece of garbage Holochain? It kind of reminds me a little bit of that in a weird kind of way.

>>55338871
>yeah, crypto is dead

Biggest joke of the year, the crypto industry is getting bigger than ever and with regulatory compliant innovations it would keep getting better.

>>55339775
>regulatory compliant innovations it would keep getting better.

Regulatory compliant innovations without SEC providing clear cut guidelines?

>>55340010
>Regulatory compliant innovations without SEC providing clear cut guidelines?

Well, EU already laid down it's guidelines through MiCa, and we have protocols like SpoolFi who are regulatory compliant.

>>55329433
I have a solution to the bot problem. Just gotta post a timestamp with your hand to prove your not a pajeet or a bot like picrel...

Ik this isnt easy or conventional but it might be the only way to be taken seriously.

>>55339775
Anon is a fucking dreamer
More FUD for crypto, increases adoption, JSYK, with Vitalik proposing wallet security and Privacy to Ethereum, more investors will be trooping to the ecosystem

>>55329411
This.
He added ICP in like adding a dick to a woman.

>>55335894
BTC is going to 150k because it's literally the globohomo coin and you faggots can't admit it and larp like it's fighting the man when it goes up.

>>55338725
Kek

The potential to what?
Ruin the world with automated faggotry?
You fags just want to get rich and are willing to build dystopia if only YOU get rich.

No value is added to any life by these things.

>>55333109
Cringe and cope

ESL thread
*fart*
I'm out.

>>55329384
Goddamn, this thread is so fkn bullish. Biggest buy signal I've seen this year

>>55329384
>hopeful as fuck.
Research the bitcoin 4 year halfing cycle - I expect to be wealthy in the spring of 2025.

>>55340920
>BTC is going to 150k because it's literally the globohomo coin
You misspelled XRP.