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Alright boys, hit me with your doomerest doompills concerning the global economy.

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>>56035168
h..how famous is she?

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>>56035208
Anon that's a computer drawing.

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>>56035218
the tiktok economics girl talks like that tho

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>>56035218
>>56035208
>>56035168
I do I profit off of ai art? So I use stable diffusion?

>> No.56035330

>>56035168
civilization requires an instrument of expansion.
and instrument of expansion is an organization capable of accumulating a surplus, and then investing it to create growth.
all organizations eventually become institutionalized and begin to fail to achieve their purpose.
the capitalist instrument of expansion has been wildly successful. however its success has been largely based on our ability to utilize an abundant and cheap energy source (fossil fuels).
the prosperity of modern civilization is directly the result of abundant surplus energy. the surplus is the energy remaining after using energy to extract more energy.
this return, called the energy return on energy invested (EROEI), has dropped precipitously from highs of 100:1 down to near 10:1 and lower. this is the "energy cliff". declining eroei results in declining surplus energy and hence prosperity.
the eroei ratio may still seem high, but much of this surplus is already allocated to maintaining the complex civilizational system.
the physical reality of our energy source puts further pressure on our already institutionalized instrument of expansion. since even if the organization itself were healthy, it cannot physically generate growth.
despite the wisdom of economists claiming that lower interest rates stimulate growth, it is quite the opposite. real growth results in high interest rates, and no growth results in low interest rates. this is quite natural, since if there is a return possible, it can be paid, and if it is not possible, it cannot be paid.
interest rates being so low in recent years is a reflection of physical reality (there is no growth left).
to save their own hides, the elite are planning a controlled "modification" and "reset" of the system, to prevent an uncontrolled and head-rolling collapse.
climate change, sustainable growth etc. is a religious veneer to hide the truth of their plan: to kill billions of people and impoverish and enslave the rest.

>> No.56035348

>>56035330
Nice SEEDS propaganda. I assume you lap up the Green energy EROC numbers too like a good goyim

>> No.56035367

>>56035168
kinda looks like my little sister

>> No.56035371

>>56035330
we orbit a giant fusion reaction. the problem is energy dense storage and transmission.

>> No.56035409

>>56035367
Ask your sister for nudes

>> No.56035419

>>56035330

2 more weeks

>> No.56035424

>>56035168
We're <15 years away from flywheel environmental apocalypse and by 2050 we'll be living in a fully collapsed dead earth dystopia with a few bilionaires in domes surrounded by drone swarms and everyone else eating each other.

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>>56035371
The problem is retards will try to use any dense enough energy storage to kill other people.

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>>56035168
I'm getting more money from a chinese blue dog coin called VINU than my fucking IT engineer wage
Dark times requires dark solutions...

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>>56035330

This is all true, but it's an artificial energy shortage. I encourage anyone else to do the math on economically obtainable uranium and thorium, and how much energy it could provide, relative to the total fossil fuel energy humanity has ever used. Fissile materials obtainable in the earth's crust and seawater have absolutely absurd EROEI and there's enough of them for, very conservatively, thousands of years of usage.

Add to this: nuclear should be a 1/10th of the $/KWH it is now if it were mass manufactured and not regulated out of existence by governments. Worst Korea in particular didn't have government hostile to it, and did it at scale with standardized designs and now they have nuclear prices a quarter of what western propaganda LCOE estimates peg it at, which is deliberate because if they didn't lie it would be obvious nuclear is actually even cheaper than coal when done properly (at scale).

Then consider if we had enough extremely cheap electricity, synthesizing fertilizers and chemical fuels literally from air and water would be completely economical, even if battery tech doesn't keep getting cheaper (which with SSBs it might). Fission is the next step of technological progress allowing exponentially more energy consumption via technology, as wood, coal, and oil had been before it.

However, this is a doompill thread so here's the doompill: the club of rome types put a firm stop to fission when they saw the global population exploding. It is not energy we are running out of: it's arable land, fish in the sea, unpolluted environments, and extant species of animals. If the nuclear genie is let out of the bottle, they think we would strain these other things to a breaking point and just consume absolutely everything, and wreck earth's biosphere for millions of years. They really really REALLY want there to be a lot less useless eaters, and I think they'll get what they want.

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>> No.56036064

Doompill? It's over. Everyone's going to die. It's worse than you think I'm not joking. Only a few of us are going to make it. Someone tell this girl I can save her >>56035291

>> No.56036072

ID get

>> No.56036079

>>56035786
Good morning sirs, go back to scamming old grandmas instead of shitting up this board

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>> No.56036160

The Nazis lost

>> No.56036179

>>56035168
You and your gf/wife/daughters will gladly be sucking the uncut smegma covered cocks of silverchad NEETS when the glowies unironically crash the economy and lock everything down next year to justify "fortifying" the elections, or else you'll starve to death or even die in agony from the new superCOVID-23 bioweapon they'll be releasing this winter. No it's not the current cuckvid strain, they'll release a bigger one.

>> No.56036207

>>56035168
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/

>> No.56036248

>>56035330
Great post but you make a fatal flaw
>Growth =/= Prosperity
In fact, a lot of the shit ((they)) do to maintain ramped growth harms prosperity.

>> No.56036265

>>56036179
If shtf silvercucks will deepthroat for cans of tuna.

>> No.56036292

Non-whites will outnumber whites in the US in our lifetime.

>> No.56036360

>>56036000
Checked and correct, and based global shadow government protecting us from ourselves.

>> No.56036366

>>56036265
>If shtf silvercucks will deepthroat for cans of tuna.
They ain't getting a can of tuna for a blowie

>> No.56036370

>>56035291
This is a 42yo woman dressed like a 25yo.

>> No.56036686

>>56035578
Comfy pic

>> No.56036716

>>56035168
We’re at the limits of our system. It’s either collapse or a great leap from here.

Either way it’s going to die.

>> No.56037730

>>56036000
nice post, but do you have a source on high nuclear eroei? maybe you are talking specificalpy about thorium. only data i have see has suggested it is still reasonably low (hall says 14:1).
i think nuclear proliferation is also a one of their concerns. politics is a reflection of real power (weaponry), and nuclear energy is a step away from nuclear bombs. that kind of sovereignty is dangerous!