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nigger

>>56601975
fpbp

Absolute Xiaomi MOONING

this thread is long transitory

>>56601956
LEAVE PAUL ALONE

>>56601990
Is this some 200IQ Yogi Berra shit?

Hmm. Over 45,000 in cash gained from the jetblue deal. 12k in debt. So 33k left. After taking into account my investment principle that'd leave a bit more than 18,000 profit. Toss 10,000 into SWPPX, toss 5,000 in my emergency fund and use the other 2,000 for fun shat.

>>56601975
on the internet no one knows you're a nigger

So now that yields have crashed is this sentiment already outdated?

>robinhood offering a free instant 1% gain on all the money you transfer into their platform if you stay with them for 2 years
wat
sounds sus

>>56602014
Boomer Anon, we know you don't know how to short. Or wait... are you already planning your spending OF FUTURE GAINS?

>>56602038
The money has to stay in your account for two years

>>56601986
Is China finally, finally back?

>>56601986
Naturally. I sold at $13 a few weeks ago after bagholding 2 years.

>>56601990
is krugman proof the jewish overrepresentation in high competency positions is just pure nepotism and not due to any special abilities

>>56602061
Just planning.

>>56602085
Always has been, why do you think the world started getting shittier lately

>>56602038
it's a good deal if you're ok using robinhood

but...
>using robinhood

>>56602014
>>56601945
>Ok if I read the terms right for every Spirit share I own Jetblue will fork out 33.5 for each one once the ink is put to paper. Right now sprint is going for 10.27 a share. So assuming I bagged 1360 shares tomorrow I'd stand to get $45,560 once the ink was dry.
I like you, Coke Boomer. Not enough that you can fuck my sister, only I can do that, but enough to help you out here.

While @David_Slotnick has been reporting from the courtroom and the DoJ look like retards, this kind of stuff is never a sure thing. Maybe the judge doesn't rule in favor, maybe the ruling is delayed beyond the end of the year, maybe it gets appealed, maybe JBLU Jews the price down.

In those kind of conditions, you get absolutely fucked. Like 50% drawdown fucked, because Spirit is fundamentally a shit airline on a direct flight to Bankruptcytown (Population: Way Too Many Airlines to Count). Just be aware of that before going all in.

>>56602125
Accurate analysis of the situation.

>>56602016
Sorta. GDP forecasting data is coming in that shows 1.5-2% growth for Q4. That combined with the collapse in energy prices has taken a lot of growth and inflationary wind out of the sails.

Which piles on to Yellen's QRA a couple days ago that revised down how much she needs to borrow in the next few months, as well as shifting more of that borrowing from long term bonds (which heem TLT) to short term bills (which just drain the reverse repo facility nobody gives a fuck about).

>>56602125
can i buy puts?

>>56602088
On the other hand if the govt denies the deal, well right now the sprint stock is cheap. The high is 22 a share. So at worst assuming I paid 10.30 a share I'd get almost 30k in the event of a denied. v.s the 45,560 if it goes through. My profit then would only be 3-4k after accounting for investment principle and debt payment.

>>56602016
>5%
I know that's a nominal number, but ever using their fake inflation numbers, you would have to look around and say "exactly where the fuck is this 2% growth being produced and where does it go?"

How are sales this Christmas going to be? Are Americans going to consooom?

>>56602183
IT IS AN AIRLINE FOR NIGGERS ANON
AN AIRLINE
FOR NIGGERS

THIS IS THE SINGLE WORST SENTENCE IN THE HISTORY OF BUSINESS
NOTHING THIS STUPID HAS EVER BEEN ATTEMPTED
THE SHARES ARE WORTH $0

>>56602175
I mean, SAVE and JBLU both have solid options chains, so yeah. Up to you how much a bad verdict would wreck SAVE or give a relief bid to JBLU though, I haven't run the numbers there.

But personally I'd setup some stops or alerts for when a verdict does get handed down a few weeks/months from now. Because you'll have a whooole lotta gamblers pushing those prices around very quickly.

>>56602203
WHAT DO THEY DO, JUST TALK ON BOOST MOBILE PHONES WHILE THEY FLY?

is an invasion of Mexico bullish?

>>56602203
>>56602230
There was a documentary made about this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367085/

Also this guy has a good autistic writeup on the whole merger https://twitter.com/Jackedtothetit1/status/1719103949540597935

>>56602190
yes

>>56602190
I paid out the ass for a bunch of anime bluerays already while I was temporarily getting 5% cashback on my card for shopping at Amazon. I am a bit tapped out even though there is a lot of things I would like to own.

>futures

I seem to lose my shit on spy 0dtes when Powell speaks late in the day. I can never pin down whatever direction the volatility heads, and worse when I go both directions I somehow get screwed both ways. I’m aware of theta but that just means cheap entries if I can correctly anticipate market sentiment. Let me guess is he just going to talk to students instead of discussing anything important again? Think I’ll take a walk this time around

iron condors expiring in jan on JBLU is whwat im hearing

>>56602458
no man may predict the future. However, you can bet.

Pol is talking about the third largest mortgage servicer getting caught doing massive fraud.

>>56602489
Is outer space still fake over there?

remember this chart? it's doin' sumpthin again.

>>56602498
it's called Mr. Cooper

>>56602504
its provocative but nobody knows wat it means

>>56602460
Sounds like the play

>>56602489
lol if we get MBS fuckery again.

Sigh. Just wishing and scheming. Hell who wouldn't be on the face of it when you look at the profit? May just sit it out. Hell I've got to much other shat to fuck with anyway. One thing today; logged into my bank's site to be greeted by the fact my Wife's accounts aren't visible anymore. (Joint ownership). They were doing maintenance work on the site so maybe it's a glitch. As a test I logged off then back on with her credentials; her accounts showed up properly. Mine didn't though but I didn't expect them to.

>>56602489
Cooper went under on a cyberattack and has been extremely slow to come back online. Meridian was raided by the feds though and now the government is pre-reviewing all new mortgages after noticing pretty erronous paperwork from Meridian. I did buy a coop put tuesday before close so today was a nice fall. I think the CEO might be trying to dump his stock
>Sell 50k
>exercise options, buy 100k
>??? -- everything else is imagination
>100k sold
>etc

>>56602190
Yes, unless they clamp down on consumer credit (which they won't do)

>>56602203
came back by for another kek

Anyone here know how many times I can log into my bank account through the website in one day before it triggers a SAR?

th-they can do that?

I have been negative since getting moved to schwab from td. I think this is the end.

>>56602489
>getting caught
it's planned demolition, they all do it

>>56602489
They'd probably have an easier time with the NVDA financial engineering rabbit hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o587riAco0


For now the AI driven hype bubble continues once NVDA's ER hurdle gets jumped.

>>56602038
>1% yield 2 year treasurey
Sounds shitty now

>>56602643
Yup. But look at EWY over the past couple days, it's not a panacea.

>>56602643
they think they can, i don't know who takes south korea seriously though. north korea's missle threats aren't taken seriously by anybody either, but south korea couldn't handle even them.

>>56602643
>>56602667
Just gotta keep that Korean Won looking zesty so the global markets stay frothy

>>56601956
Sell options, theta is your fren

>>56602725
No

>>56602637
I don't think that counts. You moving shit loads of money around daily, then yeah that'd trigger it. However I think the limit is 10k.

>>56602643
>Can't hedge against a stock going down
>Sell instead
Kek

>>56602782
Yes

>>56602884
No.... definitely no

>>56602791
The 10k limit is for cash and it triggers a CTR, not a SAR

Tell me about Mr. Cooper

>>56602489
>>56602546
I will laugh unironically if we get a repeat of 2008 crash sometime in 2024...maybe even sooner lol.

Bros I'm gonna use the profit I made from today in stocks and buy Super mario RPG remake. Maybe even get Star Ocean second story remake too.

>>56602910
>futures

>>56602910
Didn't run Norton, now he paid the price

okay munger, i have my first 100k
now what

>>56601956
I don't understand why Dem partisans are like this. Why can't we just admit that the Fed's response to inflation was effective, and the massive amount of government spending and AI optimism kept the job market strong and the stock market afloat respectively? Why do they pretend inflation would have just disappeared absent intervention?

>>56602982
you yolo it on a coin flip

seriously how the fuck hasn't the housing market started taking a dive with rates this historically high? is it just the housing market playing chicken with the economy and trying to hold out?

>>56602988
SAVE calls or bust

>>56602910
They backtraced it.

>>56603008
It’s been reported that housing markets been artificially propped up by orgs like Zillow.

>technology chumps buying the top
snic

>futures

>https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1722335333935710474

>>56603008
Because even when there isn't domestic demand there will still be foreign demand for US real estate.

>>56603008
>there can be no crash if we all just agree to only sell for more than what we bought it.
literally whats happening.

>>56603008
>Rates go up 5%
>Housing price is up 10% y/yr in my area
I'm clearing a home with a leaking roof and rotting walls etc from my parents and going to end up putting a pre-fab home on it.

>>56602987
Dumping the SPR, however that turns out over the next year or five, also did its part.

However it's still an open question whether we've solved inflation. Remember: in the 70's it juked people multiple times, kept coming back in stronger and stronger waves.

>>56602657
Yeah but if you'd effectively be getting a 6% yield with their money market fund.
This sounds kinda suspicious though, robinhood isn't doing too well. I remember a lot of bankrupt crypto exchanges did this kind of stuff too in a desperation move.

>>56603008
Be happy with what you got... When we start WW3 how much do you think housing prices will drop? Imagine a scenario like pearl harbor? Housing will drop like a sack of shit. You will be begging for 2023... Along with consumer price INFLATION as china stops importing into the US. Assets fall and keep falling. People will try to short it but it will keep going sideways killing both bears and bulls..

Welcome to the great reset. You will own nothing and be very unhappy!

>>56603044
real estate is just boomer GME

>>56603075
Thank you for that thorough, terrifying, and accurate economic forecast, Hulkster.

>>56603084
>terrifying
to who? Retirees?

>>56603008
It mooned, precisely because homeowners, en-masse, KNOW that it is going to crash and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is trying to get out before it does. The rapid rise prices (1MM for a trailer-sized shack in Montana) is one of the most bearish indicators out there. They're all hoping to participate in a bubble which they missed, thereby inflating the bubble even more.

Yet they still have to find a buyer. Which they cannot.

>>56603114
>every homeowner trying to sell
>supply increase pushes prices up

>futures

>>56603159
They're listing it for impossible amounts. It does. not count as being added to the "supply" you dumb economist. They're listing it like a lottery ticket and hoping some dumb silicon valley type will come buy it due to "Midwest Cheaper" meme. If they don't sell it, they'll just keep living in it.

I think today qualified as crab-ish

>>56603169
She also wants Zoomers to work forever

>Short interest in the ~Magnificent Seven~ is at an all time low --BofA

>Crude Oil closed below its 200D moving average for the first time since July

>CHINESE CPI YOY ACTUAL -0.2% (FORECAST -0.1%, PREVIOUS 0.0%)

What did they mean by this?

>>56603180
you really fucking think the average alcoholic boomer chud naturally settled on the optimal collusion game theory solution? not the realtors who get a larger cut from higher prices with the largest lobby in DC? not Zillow trying to pump their property bags since they started buying a few years ago? not blackstone that can weather any crash and just collect rent forever instead? get the fuck out of here

>>56603096
You'll be one of two people in that scenario: retiree or draftee

>>56603216
It can be all of those things you mentioned AND the boomersellers. Homeowners aren't blind to what's going on around them

>futures

>>56603205
A face made for scat porn 10/10 would defecate on like a street in her home country

I managed to squander 70k and lose out on buying a house 100k under value. Boomers always fucking win.

Holy shit bros, I've gotten my business & finance article reading list down to under 100 items. It will probably go up tomorrow when I add more, but I'm feeling pretty good. A few weeks ago, it was well over 250
wagmi

Imagine how hard the markets will crash when news about the imploding financial institutions finally leaks to the public lol.

>>56603462
>I managed to squander 70k

Story? On what trades

>>56603582
Soxl death cult. Then I followed nancy into mu/roblox.

Would investing in dong be a good investment? I really think the dong is going to shoot straight up.

>>56603625
>Soxl death cult
Bro you only have yourself to blame. I held and sold SOXL before the peak and bought back in 2 years later. There is a time and place for ETFs and that's the same for every stock. You cash out on the peaks and when it's crashing you wait and then buy back in over time when the crashing is done so you can average a good entry and not go all in at once on a single position. Consider it an expensive lesson learned because you can repeat your mistake on anything other than SOXL as well.

>leveraged ETFs
Good for me I started with CFD and tasted that leverage before I started with Stocks and ETF.

When I saw the leveraged ETF I thought
>hmm, that is interesting. Might be a little less risky than 20x on CFD and you can't get margincalled.
>Zoom Out
>Oh, you get fucked over time, that's how you pay for the leverage. No thanks.

>>56603685
this means that in 2003

$100,000 Dong = $6.60 USD
now
$100,000 Dong = 4.10 USD

so Dong is not going up, its flaccid

I member the FUD by Bury about how ETFs were too big and would bring the new collapse.

What a moron.

>>56603951
>Are you sure this will help us sell more icecream?

Complete spazzout

>U.S. banks have found a new way to unload risk as they scramble to adapt to tighter regulations and rising interest rates, using so-called synthetic risk transfers, per WSJ

>JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, U.S. Bank and others are selling complex debt instruments to private-fund managers as a way to reduce regulatory capital charges on the loans they make, per WSJ

BRUH this shit is whack

>>56604001

Went LONG in TLT yesterday
Let’s see how it goes

>>56604058
>futures

>>56604077
>TLT
found the hedge fund bot

Seems like that "synthetic risk transfers" crap has been around since 2013 but the way it works still looks crooked as fuck...this time could make 2008 look like a walk in the park

I just bought 100 barrels of WTI crude. Can't wait for physical delivery day.

>When the guy on the other side of all of your losing plays posts his all-time
sorry baggies
nothing personal, just business

>>56602011
Kind of, he's saying the dollar has its own momentum because of a sort of network effect from everybody already dollars for everything.

>yields

https://youtu.be/P-SVpUvFN8g?si=8Q3Vdq70PQNJ2DEQ

omegle just shut down. how can I profit?

Yields...

>>56604331
damn, how will I talk to horny 12 year olds now?

>>56604350
>10Y below 4.5%
lmaoing at Bobo

>>56604394
>he doesn't know what happens after an inflation rate peak
nobody tell him

>>56604394
It's inverting again. Kek

>>56604394
See that spread? See what happened on SVB and Fitch? It went up, which means it is uninverting. And inverted yield curve is not normal. Should it go back to normal levels, which will probably eventually happen, this could look bad for stocks. As you can see in the last days it went down again, so inverting, which caused that spike.

>>56604456
>yields going up are bad for stonks but yields going down are also bad for stonks!!!!!1
>source :

>>56604467
>can't do root-cause analysis on yield level changes
shame you didn't get the tism, brother

>>56604456
>yields inverted and uninverting is bad because... it just is okay!!
People who can't explain why they think what they think beyond "this happened before and it won't be different" fail to sway me. The yield curve is sort of like future term structure, it doesn't "invert" very often and when it does it's usually because something bad happened. But here it just means that inflation is expected to go down after a few years. How is that bad? It will be bad if 3+ year yields go up of course, but that's something different that doesn't have to happen, that's your "uninverting". Don't use heuristics without understanding what's happening, it's not voodoo.

>>56604467
Picrel should be
>Retard

It's not about yields going up but about longterm yields not going up proportionally which causes the yield curve to invert and makes buying long term bonds unattractive thus the pumping on the stock market. You stupid imbecile seem to not understand that this chart is the difference in percentage between TWO different treasuries with TWO different maturies. Negative meaning that the 2y yields MORE than the 10y which should not be the case in a regular financial environment.

The 10y yield went down MORE than the 2y the last days.

>>56604496
>remove everything from inflation numbers
oh no, he didn't nootice
good luck!

>>56604351
/smg/?

>S&P 493

>>56604500
>thinking the bond market predicts stock movements
>calling others retard
DUUUH look at this BOND MARKET CHART DUUUUUUUH

>>56604661
>SPY 493!!!!!!!!
you heard it her first /biz/

DAX is essentially constantly repeating in specific, well known patterns.

>>56604670
If you can get 6-8% risk free, why wouldnt you? Thats the average annual return for a risky investment. Bonds and equities fight for wallet share, and one is better than the other in different environments

>good times brings jews
>jews bring bad times
>bad times make dead jews
>dead jews make good times

>>56604679
how does this predict the future in any way

>>56604670
Yeah ok, they are completely unrelated and don't affect each other in no way or form. It's not like one is an alternative form of hedging/investing. It's a parallel universe. Maybe even a multiverse!

>>56604688
>Earth U516
>Interest is -5%
>You pay the bank to hold your money
never forget just how good you have things anon

>>56604688
>gets dubs for being retarded
I give up

>>56604679
perhaps stock traders would rather make more and aren't little bitch bondfags?

>>56604695
In europe it was -0,5% if you had more than 100k in an account in one bank just recently, previously to the hikes.

>>56604696
Stay mad

>>56604706
you presume i was speaking in jest, i was not

>>56604686
Interest rates determone the cost of money, and economic expansion and contraction determines whether people want to be risk on or risk off.
Short term bonds should never do better than long term bonds - why would anyone take a long term riskier position when a shorter term guaranteed investment does better? It shows an unhealthy economic macro picture. In this case, the markets are pricing in a recession, further interest rates, a crash, US national debt, or other black swan event. It doesnt matter what happens or if it even does - the key point is the uncertainty is causing short term preference for risk off investments, hence the 2Y outperforming the 10Y.
Once the yield curve uninverts, there has always been a sharp gap with 10Y>2Y and a decline in equity prices. Markets always move in cycles, why would this time be any different?

>>56604706
I had more than 100k in a bank here in Germany and never paid negative interests

>Ken Griffin said The Fed can continue printing money to avoid a default, but “the economic consequences would be devastating."

2024 is gonna be a wild year

>>56604741
>when the junior analyst at Citadel finally gets to go home, does a line of coke, and drops knowledge on /biz/
impressive, very nice finance anon

It's interesting that commodities in general are going to hell but that does not apply to steel which is on the rise. Why is that? Why is steel defying this trend?
Oil is dead, copper is dead, gold is probably not gonna go to 2000+ for a long time, other metals are also dead... steel is pretty bigly up. Weird

>>56604500
>The 10y yield went down MORE than the 2y the last days.
I understand this is unusual, but why is it significant?

>>56604704
If you are successful and trade 3, 5, 10 years and make a career out of it and make a higher APR? Good for you. But statistically you will have a bad year or two and eat shit and have significant drawdown. Risk management is key. Just remember that in order to get high gains, you have to accept large losses too. Are you getting a better risk-adjusted ROR?
Also fixed income traders dont just buy and hold. They often use high amounts of leverage. Its an asset class, its just one thing to trade of many. A tool.

>>56604752
Maybe because of war. Lots of weapons, tanks, ships etc being build?

>>56604752
(Elon gonna buy it)

>>56604743
Overwhelmingly many banks had negative rate policy on deposits +100k.


>Das Zeitalter der Negativzinsen geht zu Ende: Zahlreiche Banken haben die Verwahrentgelte für ihre Kunden schon gestrichen.
>Aktuell weisen noch 7 Banken Negativzinsen für Privatkunden auf ihrer Website oder in ihrem online zugänglichen Preisverzeichnis aus. Zum Höchststand im Mai 2022 waren es 455.
>Zum EZB-Zinsentscheid am 21. Juli berechneten noch 424 Banken Negativzinsen.

https://www.verivox.de/geldanlage/themen/negativzinsen/
>Was sagt der Verifox? Veri-, Veri-, Verifox

https://youtu.be/x_krliI7aio?si=m9YufqrkgaB2hyUE

>>56604765
Bullshit. some did, but not "overwhelmingly"
And mine certainly didnt

>>56604747
this is because he shorted the entire market and is terrified of the line going up

>>56604777
>455 Banken
>Only some
Alles klar, Brudi.

>>56604788
that means two thirds did not

>>56604803
Ok, let's count in all the banks regular people don't use.

>>56604821
>people dont use Sparkassen

The clues keep coming that a recession/crash is coming. Banks offloading risk, credit card debt and delinquencies at record highs, housing is fucked, inflation in general too high for too long, savings are at all time lows. No soft landing in sight

>>56604833
Benner cycle says 2023 is a good year to buy. But it seems unlikely we'll crash this year. Im buying monthly bonds at 5% until things become more obvious

>>56604831
https://www.kontofinder.de/ratgeber/negativzinsen-verwahrentgelt/

Oil is still in mild backwardation lmao

>>56604843
So thats 12 out of 300 Sparkassen

>>56604849
That's not all, but ok.

So let me rephrase it: It's not been overwhelmingly many banks with negative rates, but people affected by it might be overwhelmingly many, as many of the large banks like Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank etc. had those negative rates.

So maybe overwhelmingly many people were affected. You maybe not.

>>56604833
Sounds like the bottom is in.

>>56604867
ok

>>56604661
>ticker RSP.
>equal weighted sp500 etf

>USA debt interest payments now over $1 trillion ad rising

Is this what it felt like to be in Rome around 430 AD?

>Deflation le bad

>>56604931
>Deflation in a fractional reserve banking system le good.

Deflation is feared by the elite because the elite loses too in this situation. During inflation the elite gets richer and only the population suffers.

>>56604951
Right so why bet against it?

market has been dead fro 1 hr

>>56601990
He is not wrong, it is his way of saying network efffect.

>>56603205
I saw a homeless guy my age in McDonalds today. I think he's smart, employment has no value here anymore.

>>56604058
Lol they're doing the MBS thing all over again.

*GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDUP*

I went to sleep at 7 PM and slept for 10 hours without waking up. I feel gr8. Hopeful even.

>>56605127
This is bearish for the markets...

Obvious. Germany intervenes, reduces tax on electricity. At least not Industriestrompreis as Habeck demanded.

BASF pumped a little previously. They knew

>>56605135
>They knew
Always have.

>>56605133
I am bearish too, which is also good.

everyone pays tuition to the market, but you decide how much

>>56605135
Ironically everything is pumping, so half of it might just be coded into the pogram already + a little extra by BASF pumping.

>an obese italian that could get a heart attack at any moment and has had zero internet memes despite running for office for decades
>a woman
>a hispanic manlet low energy dollar store donald trump to get some beaners and MAGA leftovers
>a literal pajeet that mentions elon musk and joe rogan and will have a voterbase of r/thedonald 2021 crypto scammer elon cultist jeets and whatever jeets get bullied on /g/
>some black guy that will drop out of primaries by april of next year

Anyways now that we know joe biden (an anglo saxon/germanic) will win what stocks and companies will do well in 2025 in the joe biden economy? I'm thinking anglo saxon run companies as usual.

Historically recession has happened after the un-inversion of the yield curve, so the clock is ticking. Is this time different?

>>56605127
I haven't been able to sleep un-interrupted for what feels like years since I always have to pee. Wake up, do something to get rid of the massive wood, pee, go back and try to sleep only to realize you are now wide awake and can't fall asleep. Feels good man
Also, just as I said, oil would throw a small oversold rally. I'm selling now. No way I am holding commodities now.

>>56604904
>Congress orders the fed to print a trillion dollars to cover debt payments.

Everything is fine because we control our own money supply, federal debt is a meme. Most of that money is owed to the federal reserve anyway so essentially the U.S. government owes money to a U.S. government organization that’s technically not a government organization but due to “congressional oversight” it is a government organization.
TLDR federal debt work’s differently than regular debt.

I might still end up jewing a boomer by requesting the court enforce a retarded fsbo contract that was drafted by my uncles lawyer.

>>56605288
Oil! Pump for a week! VIOLENT CATASTROPHIC DUMP TO 66 BUCKS AT THANKSGIVING.

>>56605237
I don't know who any of these people are. Biden 2023, so the market dumps. Trump 2024 so the market goes to 6k on S and Pee.

>>56604951
The rich sometimes likes inflation. But the government hides it by underrepresenting shelter cost in cpi. Shelter cost is up 10% y/yr and is not budging and at an approximately %20 weight that means cpi will never go below 2%. But really shelter cost should be 40% of cpi.

>>56604752
What's gonna happen to the price of steel when they start rebuilding Ukraine, Israel, and they start replacing infrastructure en masse in the US, such as the railroads?

>>56605342
You reckon i should sell my oil inversion stonks? I'm kinda chinking so, anon

>>56605383
Priced in, already bought.

>>56605383
Will my TX finally learn to pump again? Steel prices on futures are up 30%

>>56605383
Indeed. Is the market pricing that in? The war in Ukraine and the one down in Gaza have either stagnated or turned out to be nothing-events. Oil and gold are both falling as a result. But steel is on the rise. Construction is also down so copper and steel should go down.
I don't know what but something is going on with steel.

>>56605395
I'm counting on a pump (I'm not buying) because the higher the bounce the harder the baby falls. Bazinga. But the market should have a technical bounce, then the expiration of saudi oil cuts and the winter oil dump cycle will kick in and slam the price of oily boys.

>>56602038
Happening must be <2 years away…

>>56605396
Sauce else I doubt it, these heebs don't plan more than 2 weeks in advance.

think about it. there has been a bear thesis for 1 year. And now we are entering the pre election year. We're going to the ATH and then everything o is on the table.

>>56605423
Kek, Mumus asking for a source on
>priced in reversal

If you didn't get it, I was just taunting you in an effort to stop the
>priced in
meme

>>56605440
>there has been
hasn't been

>>56605383
>rebuilding Ukraine, Israel,
You mean West Russia and Palestine

>>56603470
Best post itt. Good on ya, anon.

Bobros.....are we back?

give me a good reason not to slurp a little BIIB

>>56604331
Humanity wins here. That is the play. Society is healing.

>>56604752
>>56605404
Remember the Inflation Reduction Act (kek) or the CHIPS Act or the IIJA? All those piles of post-COVID stimulus?

Well that money's finally making its way through the system, in the form of a fuckton of construction.

>>56605304 the treasury doesn’t print stuff and the last time that it did a president lost his life in Texas. -gw sr

>>56605237
>Anyways now that we know joe biden (an anglo saxon/germanic)
He's Irish.

>>56605383
There are no people to rebuild Ukraine for.

>>56605649
Greater Israel?

>>56605573
There's support at 200, you might be catching a knife.

>Sartorius +4%
Not good

This fuckin techtranny SAP is carrying the DAX with the insurance companies that are starting to lose power.

>>56605404
Still price discovery waiting on macro I guess. What parts of the energy sector I see (coal/gas) aren’t slowing down at the moment. Our orders for metal haven’t really dipped at all. A couple companies I know are attempting to diversify into other ores (mostly iron) as the processing step isn’t too dissimilar. The whole country is waiting on the fed to do something, anything and the Feds failing to do that.

The most comprehensive thing Janet Hellen has ever said was that we could fund two wars.

party at the smg house tomorrow
drinks are on me

>>56605704
Hey I recognize that company, they make good lab balances

>>56605746
it's nnn m8, take it easy with the boobies

>>56605746
4,7,8,9 (NOT COUNTING THE GUY) are the best imo

>>56605758
It's being traded like a memecoin currently. Pumping up 4-5% on days, then crashing down 4-5%.

>>56605779
>nnn
Get this guy a jockstrap and a cookie!

>>56605787
>guy says something

>cocoa soon 4k

>>56605746
There's way more here that hold no NATGAS than what's in that pic.

>>56605699
Thanks for looking out
I think you're right, they have room to drop before they come out with some other bullshit boomer hopegasm. Probably slurp a little after Jan

>>56602498
Not since Israel was attacked

Fidelity has great stuff in its Markets data tools.

>>56605966
After clicking "View Current Phase".

>my MDAX short

>>56604752
What is the best way to invest in Steel?

>>56605973
>DAX hitting ATH while recession
All meaningsless

What's with this bond action?

>>56605976
I told you, cmcbro. DAX is moving like a robotic autist >>56604672

And MDAX is probably not that much different though weaker

>>56605779
NNN still going? haven't seen many threads this year.

>>56605597
Heh. So many acts disguised as something. According to all official statistics, construction has been falling and is nowhere near ATH.

>>56602912
>I will laugh unironically if we get a repeat of 2008 crash sometime in 2024...maybe even sooner lol.
the corporate debt bubble has its own wikipedia page lmao

>>56605986
Yellen just sold a whole bunch of bonds. Will it go back up again? I wish I knew so I'd actually make money

>>56605985
>Euro shit is meaningless
Yes

>>56605986
Long transitory my fren. All sorts of happenings are 335 hours away.

>>56605746
Found the correct answer!

>>56606038
>Euro shit is meaningsless
>Could have made money buying euroshit early 2023 previously to SPX bitching out
heh

>Get into work early
>Now I have to wait even longer until the market opens
Such is the wagie life

>>56606042
What about the guy? He looks better than most of those chicks.

>>56606067
I leave the guy to Poem anon.

>>56606047
I would very much like to understand how to work that kind of thing, what to trade and when. Fidelity has international investment, which I've enabled, but am clueless as to how to benefit from it.

>>56606076
just buy a cheap index etf like VXUS
or VT if you wanna pretend the number isn't going down

>>56603216
The realtors would be the last people to try to keep prices up when transactions tank lol

>>56605973
btd in our speculative assets because this vague chart showing is green.

>>56606076
Does the european market have fds ? Ithought it was boomer style with no usury.

eToro giving errors to anyone else?

>>56604058
This absolutely makes more sense that allowing them to hold 15+ year obligations with capital risk weights over 40%.

>>56606114
Do you feel sorry for banks ? wtf is wrong with you. This how a society gets heemed.

What does Ess Emm Gee think about China's inflation data coming in even lower than expected?

>>56604686
Anon I hate to be the first to tell you this
Sit down

The stocks borrow money ABOVE the interest rate

>>56602107
What's wrong with robinhood?

>up 26% this year
Feels good

>>56606142
>we have a generation of investors that have known nothing but negative interest rates and quantitative easing
>they have no knowledge of fundamentals and think investing is just gambling options and growth companies "going to the moon"
You know? I used to wonder how the dot com boom could get so retardedly out of size. How people though pets.com was worth the triple pe ratio.

I'm starting to understand

>>56606141
Chinese consumers are tapped out. Everybody is cash hoarding and avoid buying homes
A much more speaking picture will be the results of SinglesDay.
Also all foreign investors are leaving, so it put even more pressure on the economy, besides their real estate fuckup.
Not a good time to be a chink tbqhfamalam

>>56606142
No you are not the first one. You all insist that the stock market is a derivative of the bond market.

Last time I was this outgunned by /smg/ in a discussion was when I dared to buy the NVDA bottom.

>up 8% this year
Feels like a fucking disaster, I have done everything wrong

>>56606127
This is 100x more expensive for the banks lol. They’re selling junk super junior debt. This is a clean and transparent risk handoff compared to allowing them to hold a bunch of actually-not-that-liquid long term mortgages and mortgage bonds and acting like they’re near cash

>>56604058
>JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, U.S. Bank and others are selling complex debt instruments to private-fund managers as a way to reduce regulatory capital charges on the loans they make, per WSJ
we're getting a 2008 crash aren't we

I exclusively trade during pre-market hours and ride nonsensical lines going up based on low volume and do a little each or every other day. Clear a couple hundred dollars a week doing this. Based?

>>56606199
>this enrages the options trader
I’m pretty sure you can mirror the market by buying 10 year treasuries and then using a small percent of your capital to buy ATM calls

>>56606180
so funny the assumptions you make
>interest rates will keep going down so my bonds rise in value
>people won't be buying stocks

Nintendo is about to make an all time high in yen. The movies will not stop. Mario will be a better known character than Mickey Mouse to developed world gen alpha kids

>>56606326
>generation of boys are going to want to be link and girls are going to want to be a princess

>>56606341
>selling at 10x P/EV

>>56606367
international in general has a trailing pe ratio of like fucking 11

>>56606367
They’re going to be making >100% returns on hard assets and inventory in the next decade. Sorry for chain replying to myself. This is like buying Disney in the 80s

>>56606377
Yeah but most of those are fucking cement companies not the entertainment company with the best image in the world

>>56606142
>The stocks borrow money ABOVE the interest rate
what the fuck are you blabbering about
>>56604500
>the yield curve to invert and makes buying long term bonds unattractive thus the pumping on the stock market.
what the FUCK are you blabbering about

>>56606341
Based.
Zelda was peak Nintendo.

>>56603169
>>56603205
lol this bitch is explicitly a middle management whip cracker for the kikes. Imagine voting for that.

>>56606407
imagine if they pull off a movie again but this time it's two teens as lead actors and they have a romance

>>56606407
Still is

Nintendo is going to be included in the healthcare equipment index in 2035 when every nursing home unit is outfitted with a switch, GameCube, and N64

>>56604747
And a default wouldnt be?

>>56606341
I hope we can replace mgk with mario.

>>56606419
I fear they will do intersex link or some other cringey zoomer thing.

Give me a good stock tip

>>56606393
At least counter the point

>>56606445
Ntdoy/ntdof/TSE:7974

>>56606447
you don't already know? man smg is cringe in the early mornings

>>56606437
>I fear they will do intersex link or some other cringey zoomer thing.
In the mario movie they tried to girl boss peach and make the movie about her, apparently Nintendo threatened to pull everything and cancel it until they handed them a better script

also japs will fucking burn nintendo down if they black link or zelda lol

>>56606141
>China's ... data
It's all fake anyways, who cares about Chink reports, they're fucked.

good morning

US Initial Jobless Claims Actual 217k (Forecast 218k, Previous 217k)

>up 500% this year
>upset that it's not my intraday ATH from yesterday of 514%, feel like I fucked up
I will never be happy

>>56606464
Yes. No risk of this and Nintendo has total leverage over illumination now

Disney is just handing over the crown to them by screaming about turning your sons sick inside out

>>56602643
anon not only can they do that but that can happen in US markets as well and in fact has already happened at least once before. you aren't as free as you think you are when making money in the stock market

>>56606456
>still nothing
You are arguing like an university leftist

Oilbros this was the bottom, I hope you slurped under $76 (I did)

>>56606485
>Disney is just handing over the crown to them by screaming about turning your sons sick inside out
The new marvel movie is selling worse than quanta mania and the critic reviews are already 57% lol

>>56606476
Good morning sir!

>>56606464
I hope the rising sun can defeat the star of remphan.

>>56604058
>per WSJ
>per WSJ
Why are literally all journalists illiterate niggers now?

>>56606108

>>56606199
I was a retard and bought nvidia at the previous top because of /smg/, luckily I averaged down when it crashed

>>56606238
oh shit MBS 2.0

>>56606424
I highly doubt copyright will last that long, especially with video games. It's practically dead now and AI is quickly killing it officially.
Everyone will be doing emulation in ten years.

AQST is going apeshit. who's gonna time the top to dunk on baggies?

STOP PUMPING YOU PIECE OF SHIT

>pasts

>>56606483
How are you up 500% when you shorted MDAX with such conviction yesterday?

Stick to Wheat.

>>56606660
>>56606660
>>56606660

>>56606574
Why would it not last that long? Lots of rich people have plenty of incentive to keep lobbying for it to be continued and durations extended

>>56606480
Meh. It's gonna pump

>>56605746
Man, I just can't get into non-asian chicks any more.

>>56606540
she looks very upset.

>>56606574
Are you actually retarded?

>>56606574
Nintendo had dolphin shut down. People were doing emulation 10 years ago and aren’t now.